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They just showed up no tracking I was aware of.

Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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Y’all are going to kill my phone and watch battery with this post, all these notifications. Such spirted conversations . Love it!


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Having been through it twice I’ve had a bit of both worlds.

Bad: When I got fitted for a driver, every head didn’t feel right nor did the results turn out good. Everything had insane spin rate, and sky high launch. Causing a slice. It was at a Golf Galaxy and all the guy did was keep the same Ventus red shaft, then just adjusted the loft and weight in the club. One point I was had a 9 loft, adjusted down 3 and still had like a 24 degree launch angle. Come to find out the it was mainly the shaft as that’s a high launch shaft. Never once did he try different shafts. I basically paid $70 for a floor Associate to hand me basic drivers. I Left thinking I’d just wait to buy a driver. Ended up getting a good deal on a stealth 2+ with a motore X shaft. I basically bought a driver on my own with what I felt would work. The driver is fine, but just that.

Good: I recently got fitted for irons, by a highly reputable local golf facility. I was skeptical at first just because he used the Mizuno shaft analyzer and I magically ended up getting fitted for mizuno irons. The JPX Forged to be exact. The second best iron was the MP 245s. But I liked the feel of the p770s. I left with my results. I decided just so I could be comfortable with getting the JPX I’d go to a golf store and just try all three again. While the feel of the 770s was super buttery, the consistency truly was better with the JPX. Also I think they have more feel. The 770s felt flush even on bad shots. The JPX let me know how I hit it. I ended up ordering them through Golf Galaxy and got rewards (so not where I got fitted). All in all I was extremely impressed with the process even in just the hour I had to get fitted. I’ve always played exclusively TM driver through putter. so to switch was a big break for me.

I know golfec, Trufit and club champion are also great places. I just know, especially club champion, is big in up-selling shafts. That’s where they make most of their money. Even if you decide on a premium shaft go order elsewhere. That’s why they have the “$50 fitting (w/purchase)”.

Fitting is always a risk, but when done correctly, I firmly believe every player needs to get fitted low through high Handicap.


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Having been through it twice I’ve had a bit of both worlds.

Bad: When I got fitted for a driver, every head didn’t feel right nor did the results turn out good. Everything had insane spin rate, and sky high launch. Causing a slice. It was at a Golf Galaxy and all the guy did was keep the same Ventus red shaft, then just adjusted the loft and weight in the club. One point I was had a 9 loft, adjusted down 3 and still had like a 24 degree launch angle. Come to find out the it was mainly the shaft as that’s a high launch shaft. Never once did he try different shafts. I basically paid $70 for a floor Associate to hand me basic drivers. I Left thinking I’d just wait to buy a driver. Ended up getting a good deal on a stealth 2+ with a motore X shaft. I basically bought a driver on my own with what I felt would work. The driver is fine, but just that.

Good: I recently got fitted for irons, by a highly reputable local golf facility. I was skeptical at first just because he used the Mizuno shaft analyzer and I magically ended up getting fitted for mizuno irons. The JPX Forged to be exact. The second best iron was the MP 245s. But I liked the feel of the p770s. I left with my results. I decided just so I could be comfortable with getting the JPX I’d go to a golf store and just try all three again. While the feel of the 770s was super buttery, the consistency truly was better with the JPX. Also I think they have more feel. The 770s felt flush even on bad shots. The JPX let me know how I hit it. I ended up ordering them through Golf Galaxy and got rewards (so not where I got fitted). All in all I was extremely impressed with the process even in just the hour I had to get fitted. I’ve always played exclusively TM driver through putter. so to switch was a big break for me.

I know golfec, Trufit and club champion are also great places. I just know, especially club champion, is big in up-selling shafts. That’s where they make most of their money. Even if you decide on a premium shaft go order elsewhere. That’s why they have the “$50 fitting (w/purchase)”.

Fitting is always a risk, but when done correctly, I firmly believe every player needs to get fitted low through high Handicap.


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Well, as you can imagine, 2 sides to every story. Full disclosure, I've been a fitter for 10 yrs and a big box retail. I'm not trying to be confrontational, just know "we" have experience(s) too.
I've seen way more of you than you've see of me. The internet is your friend, but not necessarily mine. It's nice to have informed customers, but don't come in if you think you know more than me and you're going to tell me I'm wrong. That's a waste of both our times. We do have product training from every manufacturer we sell. Like anything else, it's on us to learn it and apply it. At our store, we have NO incentive to push one OEM over the other. We are afforded PUD pricing on product and those purchases are monitored by management, so one can't just buy everything.
Someone mentioned a good fit being part lesson. I guess that's true (sort of). However, if you wanted a lesson, presumably you'd be going to a PGA pro and not me. Personally, I've been around many PGA Class A pros and really good players for years, so I have a fair amount of experience. However, any "tip/suggestion" you'd receive from me would have nothing to do with changing any mechanic in you swing. It's really difficult to fit a customer who CAN NOT make a consistent strike or pass at the ball. In addition, realistic expectations and honesty are really helpful. I've lost count of how often I hear, "I just can't hit indoors ...", "I'm just having a bad day ...", "I usually hit it much farther than this ..." From watching your swing, I doubt those things are true.
I notice when I read many of these forum posts, I always check the posted index in the bio. More often than not, the higher index people (16 and up) have the most "answers" on topics like this and club choices/comparisons. Hmmm ...
After a discussion of your goals, needs, wants and budget, I used the PING chart for static measurement and the Mizuno Swing Analyzer for shaft. It's a great tool and Mizuno carries 85%+ of the shafts other manufacturers also order, so I find it a great place to start. If you're not interested in Mizunos, we never go there from that point on. One quick Mizuno plug, they are they only manufacturer (for us anyway) that has basically no up charge on shafts (SteelFiber excluded).
I've been to many many OEM fittings days and because it's a free-for-all, it's kinda on you to get the attention/information you need, even when they do it by appt. at green grass clubs. And again, those "fitters" are usually younger kids, tying to get into the business, with no ties that prevent them from living in there cars as they do it 8 days a week. Doesn't mean they don't know anything, but like before, if they don't love it and live it, that's the quality you receive.
We have competitors for sure, some good some not. Inside my store, we have 7-8 employees who's title is fitter. You will undoubtedly get that many variations. Again, how much some mid-20 yr old kid, working through school, or someone more seasoned like myself, retired and immersed in the game knows is widely different. It's on you to do your due diligence.
I don't mean to bash anyone, but I do have to say because I see it every day where I work. Club Champion and the shaft pureing. CC owns Pure SST, it's not hard to figure out why they push the extra $$ for a service that at this point is highly debated (check past forums).
Lastly, though I do make commission and it's my job to have to leave the store with product and a sale, I repeatedly refuse to sell to you if it's not better. I'd rather make you a customer for an honest experience than feel badly and turn to Yelp to say so. I've even had customers call my manager to complain that I wouldn't sell them a driver. What I did was recommend they spend $500 on lessons first and then come back.
Appreciate anyone reading this far.

As a master fitter myself this cracks me up. A couple things, you are going into the store to BUY clubs so the fact that the fitter is trying to sell you shouldn't be a shock to you. Pre-fitting if the fitter hasn't discussed your complete golf history from scoring, shot shape, your desired results and budget, don't work with him. He should ask what research you have done and will that influence what clubs you would like to hit. Your fitter should be brand agnostic focused only on your results and which club obtained those results from a mix of heads and shafts. A true master fitter has spent years and countless hours of education learning the craft. There should be a marked difference between a salesman and a true fitter. Lastly, our store does not have spiffs or pay extra to sell certain brands. We are paid to fit correctly and have the customer spread the word of a positive experience. And I have better things to do than do free fittings, just don't do them.

Having been through it twice I’ve had a bit of both worlds.

Bad: When I got fitted for a driver, every head didn’t feel right nor did the results turn out good. Everything had insane spin rate, and sky high launch. Causing a slice. It was at a Golf Galaxy and all the guy did was keep the same Ventus red shaft, then just adjusted the loft and weight in the club. One point I was had a 9 loft, adjusted down 3 and still had like a 24 degree launch angle. Come to find out the it was mainly the shaft as that’s a high launch shaft. Never once did he try different shafts. I basically paid $70 for a floor Associate to hand me basic drivers. I Left thinking I’d just wait to buy a driver. Ended up getting a good deal on a stealth 2+ with a motore X shaft. I basically bought a driver on my own with what I felt would work. The driver is fine, but just that.

Good: I recently got fitted for irons, by a highly reputable local golf facility. I was skeptical at first just because he used the Mizuno shaft analyzer and I magically ended up getting fitted for mizuno irons. The JPX Forged to be exact. The second best iron was the MP 245s. But I liked the feel of the p770s. I left with my results. I decided just so I could be comfortable with getting the JPX I’d go to a golf store and just try all three again. While the feel of the 770s was super buttery, the consistency truly was better with the JPX. Also I think they have more feel. The 770s felt flush even on bad shots. The JPX let me know how I hit it. I ended up ordering them through Golf Galaxy and got rewards (so not where I got fitted). All in all I was extremely impressed with the process even in just the hour I had to get fitted. I’ve always played exclusively TM driver through putter. so to switch was a big break for me.

I know golfec, Trufit and club champion are also great places. I just know, especially club champion, is big in up-selling shafts. That’s where they make most of their money. Even if you decide on a premium shaft go order elsewhere. That’s why they have the “$50 fitting (w/purchase)”.

Fitting is always a risk, but when done correctly, I firmly believe every player needs to get fitted low through high Handicap.


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Having been through it twice I’ve had a bit of both worlds.

Bad: When I got fitted for a driver, every head didn’t feel right nor did the results turn out good. Everything had insane spin rate, and sky high launch. Causing a slice. It was at a Golf Galaxy and all the guy did was keep the same Ventus red shaft, then just adjusted the loft and weight in the club. One point I was had a 9 loft, adjusted down 3 and still had like a 24 degree launch angle. Come to find out the it was mainly the shaft as that’s a high launch shaft. Never once did he try different shafts. I basically paid $70 for a floor Associate to hand me basic drivers. I Left thinking I’d just wait to buy a driver. Ended up getting a good deal on a stealth 2+ with a motore X shaft. I basically bought a driver on my own with what I felt would work. The driver is fine, but just that.

Good: I recently got fitted for irons, by a highly reputable local golf facility. I was skeptical at first just because he used the Mizuno shaft analyzer and I magically ended up getting fitted for mizuno irons. The JPX Forged to be exact. The second best iron was the MP 245s. But I liked the feel of the p770s. I left with my results. I decided just so I could be comfortable with getting the JPX I’d go to a golf store and just try all three again. While the feel of the 770s was super buttery, the consistency truly was better with the JPX. Also I think they have more feel. The 770s felt flush even on bad shots. The JPX let me know how I hit it. I ended up ordering them through Golf Galaxy and got rewards (so not where I got fitted). All in all I was extremely impressed with the process even in just the hour I had to get fitted. I’ve always played exclusively TM driver through putter. so to switch was a big break for me.

I know golfec, Trufit and club champion are also great places. I just know, especially club champion, is big in up-selling shafts. That’s where they make most of their money. Even if you decide on a premium shaft go order elsewhere. That’s why they have the “$50 fitting (w/purchase)”.

Fitting is always a risk, but when done correctly, I firmly believe every player needs to get fitted low through high Handicap.


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Just got new irons, fitted for them. JPX 923 Forged with an IO shaft. I held off on getting a four iron. Trying to decide between the Forged 4 iron, iCrossover or the Fli Hi. Just need something at 21 degrees of loft. Hybrids are out as I’ve never played them well.

It will fill the gap of my Gapr Mid 18 degree and the five iron. Just gotta go test them out.


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Just got new irons, fitted for them. JPX 923 Forged with an IO shaft. I held off on getting a four iron. Trying to decide between the Forged 4 iron, iCrossover or the Fli Hi. Just need something at 21 degrees of loft. Hybrids are out as I’ve never played them well.

It will fill the gap of my Gapr Mid 18 degree and the five iron. Just gotta go test them out.


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Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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So the 4 iron in the 923 HOT METAL HL is 21° and super easy to whack and 200 cheaper than a "udi" or "driving iron "

Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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Not a big “drinker”. For me it’s limited to Water, Liquid IV or an Alani Nu if I need caffeine. I don’t even like to drink coffee prior to a round for hydration purposes.


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Just got new irons, fitted for them. JPX 923 Forged with an IO shaft. I held off on getting a four iron. Trying to decide between the Forged 4 iron, iCrossover or the Fli Hi. Just need something at 21 degrees of loft. Hybrids are out as I’ve never played them well.

It will fill the gap of my Gapr Mid 18 degree and the five iron. Just gotta go test them out.


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I’m thinking about getting a pair of Jordan Low G golf shoes.  I’ve worn Foot joy mostly, pro SL.  I’ve had a pair of foot joy for 4 years and a pair of Ecco for 2 years. I wouldn’t mind having another pair to wear around.  
 
I wear Jordan Lows as my kick around sneaker.  I think it’s time to make the switch.

No clue probably in like September 😂😂

Yes lol, even his drive gotta be 260s and it’s effortless.


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Was it that Asian dude always at the same range? Dudes swing was butter.

Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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Rushing to buy a Stealth 2+ without a proper fitting because of a promotion they were running. The driver is fine but I’d much rather be fitted for a driver that’s mine opposed to a stealth 2+ with a shaft I thought would work well. Got the okay from my wife and was just excited to buy it….lol


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