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On 11/11/2023 at 11:56 AM, cnosil said:
This video changed my thoughts about bounce and the advocation for "using the bounce". And as @Josh Parker said, sand conditions will also influence needed bounce.
Wedges are a strong area of my game. This video was super helpful in explaining why I succeed in hitting wedges on most grasses but struggle on grainy Bermuda. I play the least on Bermuda grass and struggle in the grain. My response to it was all wrong and had no idea. This video will be a huge help.
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My first goal is to double my rounds from this year! My second goal is to get back to practicing my short game at least 20 minutes before every round and hit at least a small bucket before each round.
Play goals:
I want to take the extra club and keep every swing smooth.
I want to play shots aggressively to conservative spots.
I want to think each shot before I hit it. (considering the angles and yardages I want to leave myself for the next shot)
I want to play fast and yet never rush a shot.
I want to get back to being a scratch golfer.
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I played KZG irons for about 20 years. I had two sets in that time and wore both hard with about a thousand rounds on each set. Kzg are nearly impossible to get here in the states now so I got fit for new irons and played PXG gen 3 irons. I got a free upgrade to Gen 6 last year. Pxg irons are great feeling irons. I have just one issue with them they don't get enough spin to stop the ball quickly on greens. My Kzg irons stopped really fast.
I lost a lot of weight in the last 6 months and regained speed in my swing. I decided to give the Kzg irons another try. They stopped much faster than the Pxg irons.
I have had a few wedges regrooved by the Iron Factory and they were great! I am planning to regroove and refinish my Kzg irons. I figure the refinishing cost is about 2/5's the price of new forged irons and they play better than the top of the line irons on the market.
Does anyone have experience with regroove irons?
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I have played my MD3 54* for over a year and only the mini grooves of the leading edge have worn down. The rest of the face is still very rough after 78 rounds.
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1 hour ago, ChitownM2 said:
Pretty sure it works the opposite way. Bending a 56 to 54 reduces bounce and bending a 56 to 58 would increase bounce and raise the leading edge
1 hour ago, ChitownM2 said:Pretty sure it works the opposite way. Bending a 56 to 54 reduces bounce and bending a 56 to 58 would increase bounce and raise the leading edge
That would be even better in my mind. I was told the opposite. I just know that the 54 works great for me and I just took advantage of the Veterans day discount to order the MG4 Tiger grind 56* bent to 58* a bout 20 minutes ago. I would love more bounce around the greens on Bermuda grass for into the grain, I really struggle in those situations.
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It would depend on the way I was hitting my driver that round. If I am driving it well I would play an intentional pull and hit to the far left side of the far fairway, if it has been a less skilled driving day I would play a 3 fairway with a draw and hit it near the end of the right hand fairway. First option would leave me a wedge to the green in attack mode. The second would leave me a mid iron to the middle of the green. Option one could give me a makeable birdie try. Option two leaves me putting into a 3 foot bucket and an easy par.
If my score is good I take option 1 most often option two would be to protect my card from extra strokes.
I attack on the most scorable holes and keep the card safe on the high risk reward holes.
- cksurfdude and gingerbeast87
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I play a MD 3 56* bent to 54* in the Tiger grind. I also had an SM 8 60* in M grind for part of the year. I switched to a Renegar 58* wedge, it is just so versatile. I am planning to have a different Tiger grind 56* bent to 58* to try in the spring. I love the grind on the Tiger 56 the leading edge and sole shape work well for me on the 54* and bending it added bounce. Bending one to 58* would lower the bounce and I think that would be great to add for tight fairways. I plan to try it and see how it works for me. I can really spin the ball with my TM MD3 tiger grind.
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I will take a lifetime membership!
- cksurfdude and Javs
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I tend to pull my irons and wedges if I tee them so I don't. I tee hybrids, 3 wood and driver.
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On 10/3/2023 at 10:46 PM, Ben Joest said:
Hello Folks!
Many of you have seen me around the forum popping up in various threads here and there. I have written about my evergreen fascination with muscleback blades. More recently, I wrapped up testing the latest Titleist irons. Now, I am starting this thread as a means of having a place to record my thoughts and findings as I figure out a path forward regarding the Driver in my bag. As the title describes, I am looking for consistency, so I am going to put the 3 drivers currently in my possession up against one another and see which wins out.
Let’s meet the competitors:
Current GamerThe current gamer is a Titleist TSR3, 9 degrees with a stiff Tensei black 1K shaft. I have it adjusted up 1.5 degrees with the weight set in the second to last position towards a draw bias.
Former Gamer
A Callaway Rogue ST TD LS, 9 degree with a Tensei white X-stiff shaft. I have it set up 1 degree.
Former Former Gamer
A Ping G425 Max, 9 degree with the Ping tour stiff shaft. I have it adjusted 1.5 degrees with the weight toward the heel to promote a draw bias.
My small miss is a push fade. My big miss is banana slice. My over compensating miss is a low hook.
A part of this journey is going to be working toward eliminating the over the top move that periodically works it’s way into my swing when I’m either trying to kill it or starting to fatigue. I will also be using a series of range sessions to determine which of these 3 drivers gives me the best distance, dispersion, reliable shot shape.
I think the gains in driver tech have hit the peak with the cor rules. I believe that the biggest gains left will come from maximizing driver shaft performance. When I got fit for my TSR 3 I loved the way if felt. The fitter didn't make any effort to fit me to a better shaft he just showed me the other brands. I really liked the results of the TSR 3, it had the best dispersion and was surely the most forgiving. I have played a tour only Matrix Ozik HD 7 TP shaft for over 7 years. I like it so much I put a universal adapter on it a few years ago. When I put the TSR 3 on my shaft I picked up 18 yards on average. I really believe the shaft is the next and best avenue for driver yardages.
- GolfSpy_BEN, Gripit and cksurfdude
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For the last 10 years I have been in the golf club turnstyle. I went from being a scratch or better golfer I climbed to nearly a 7 handicap. I had three fittings and three sets of irons in 10 years, 3 putters and no improvements. I spent about $10,000 on equipment. I lost a bunch of weight and regained speed in my swing. I had to switch back to stiff shafts. I didn't know if I could keep the weight off so I just pulled my old clubs out of the basement. My game was in free fall. I had scores in the nineties three times in July 2023. In August I switched back to my old bag of irons and putter. I shot 68 the first round 71 the next and nothing over 76 since. I loved golf again. The irons looked terrible from over 10 years of wear and they were my second set. My putter has scars all over it after 18 years of play. I also had a back up putter but with an inch longer shaft.
I took my irons and putter and sent them off to be refinished and customized. I can't wait to get them back from the golf garage with new grooves and clean finish, including some awesome patriotic customization. Total cost 25% of any of the irons I bought and half what I paid for the putters I bought.
I don't think anything in my bag is going to be up for change in quite a while!
- Josh Parker and TJ Hall
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I did the Titleist blind test last year. The Pro V1 left dot is the best ball I have every hit. Since I can't get them I play the Srixon Z Star Divide.
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Downhill down slope below the feet to a raised green. Any yardage but the 40 to 50 yards tweener kills me
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I play set pitching wedge 46* pxg gen 6 I had the entire set bent to 4 degree gaps up from the p wedge. My wedges work the same I have a 50* Cleveland RTX with 11 bounce and a wide sole. My 54* is a Taylormade MD 3 Tiger grind 56*/12 bent to 54*/14, I love this sole grind and the face just rips balls when I need it to. My final wedge is a Renegar 58* RXf 10* bounce. I use them all around greens and only rarely hit a lob wedge full. The rest I hit full or with feel.
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This is what the P2 looks like they have come a long way.
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A straight ball is the best option 90% of the time, master that before you try to shape balls.
Equally impactful. Putting pace is most important part over 10 feet pretend the hole is 3 feet around the hole and you will score much better. It take all the stress out of the stroke.
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2 hours ago, PrismFlopper said:
Ive learned more recently with practice that the biggest problem im having with my putter is speed i tend to come up short. Idk if its from the synthetic face that causing me to hit it softer or just how it comes off the face.
Go on utube and look up edel putter fittings. He will fill your mind with insights.
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On 8/7/2023 at 5:37 PM, jdparker said:
Yes! My favorite putter I owned was the Ping Doc17 that was huge and I had it forever. It was so beat up and worn down I finally had to get rid of it. Haven't found another one quite like it. Just ordered the LAB because it seems to resemble the set up the most, so we shall see.
I love my custom putter because it was built to fit me and my needs. Anyone else using it will find it was not made for them but it feels good and rolls really well. I would bet that if MGS pole what club position in your bag you have purchased the most putter would be the most followed by drivers.
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I write big so I can see it better.
I had the luck/pleasure of bumping into a booth at a golf show here in No. Va.
The booth was for positive putters. I had time to kill because my buddies were shopping for deals. The booth had a very Christian oriented banner, I don't remember the specifics. It also had a bunch of putters swinging wildly on an apparatus three were swinging wildly and one was perfectly swinging. I was drawn in to watching with another gent who was very suspicious of the apparatus, he said it has to be rigged. The third gentleman standing near said to him he could switch them any way he wanted. He even showed him how to hang them. He asked what kind of putter I played and said if I asked the booth across from him they would let me borrow one to hang. I did and it twisted like crazy. Just like the others. The gentleman asked If I would like to try a putter made just for me. I said sure why not? He handed me a yardstick and asked me to close my eyes and take a putter setup. He marked where my hands sat on the stick and used a protractor to check the angle of the yardstick at the ground for lie angle. He asked me what I would like in style of putter and where the shaft would go. He said If I came back in half an hour he would have a putter try.
I followed my buddies for a while and went back. The putter a Positive Putter P2 33" and 70* lie angle. He put it on his fingers and I stood toe up. I rolled ten straight putts from 5 to 10 feet dead in the heart. I was excited but unsure. I figured it would cost a small fortune. It was only $150. That was back in 2008 it is still in my bag. I have 2 now. I sent the original to be rehabbed and beautified at East Coast Custom Putters. I figured I would invest in what works rather than switch to a new putter to get a better looking putter.
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On 7/10/2023 at 9:55 AM, Hobert said:
We decided to join a private club in March and have no regrets (we had previously joined and left a semi-private years ago). For me, I knew it would get me out playing more often which has been a goal of mine for years. The initiation fee was fairly modest compared to the high-end member-owned clubs near me. The monthly fee is about half of my former car payment (that end last September). We have a quarterly food/beverage minimum that is fairly low (and alcohol counts towards that minimum). As far as benefits go, there are many:
- Unlimited range time
- Amazing short game practice area (multiple greens, each with a bunker (one deep, one less so))
- Spread out tee times which allows/encourages walking (more than half do walk)
- Generally can get a tee time for the same day even on weekends
- Teaching Pro is regarded as one of the best in the area (construction is almost finished on an instruction facility for him (simulator, garage door opens up out on to range, etc.); he has already helped me tremendously (member rate for teaching is quite affordable)
- New to Golf for Women Clinic has encouraged my wife to start practicing and playing/helped her meet a group of friends at the club to play/practice with
- Fun social events (e.g., Around the World events on Friday evenings comprising 9 holes of Captain's choice; chef has food/beverage stations between some holes to have themed appetizers and drinks)
- Networking and meeting new people (and seeing them again). For example a father and son joined me and a friend for a round a few weeks after I joined. The son was a freshman in high school and put on a show (Eagled the Par 5 7th after his dad applied pressure saying "this is his eagle hole" as we walked onto the tee box (he bombed a drive to 160ish out, put his second within 6 feet, and drained his putt). Father and son were extremely nice and I got to watch a show first hand.
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Free tees
- Lack of congestion resulting in rounds under four hours
- Organized tournaments
- I'm sure more will come to mind
I have not yet grown tired of playing the same course and I do still play other courses in the area from time to time with friends/colleagues.
My club also has member shotgun on the weekends. Everyone signs up and the groups are made. You get to meet new members and everyone gets done around the same time for lunch. This makes the social side more fluid and diverse. We have mens club that runs weekly and monthly golf events. The ladies have the same. Their group goes off at the back of the shotgun starts.
Being in a club is where the best gambling happens. Handicaps are monitored and accurate because of all the league play. During the week we have no tee times you just show up as a group and go out. First come first serve. If two groups want to go off at the same time one can go to the back nine. Young, old, male or female the pace of play is faster than 4 hours often 2 to 3 hours. Gym, pools, tennis, pickleball, parties and events about once a month. Great food!
You do have monthly spends depending on what you negotiated, the thing is with the weekend shotguns and group play it is easy to eat breakfast before and lunch after and come to at least one event per month and you will cover that with ease.
We are a very comfortable club for all ages. When I get invited to play elsewhere or just want to go to another course all I do is ask the pro to call and ask if they will reciprocate, 95% of the time it is yes. Even TPC Sawgrass let four of us play for caddie fees. Golfing here in the greater D.C. area is about $100 bucks per round plus food and bev. I play 75-125 rounds a year, use the gym, pool and pickleball as well as dinning and parties. For under 10k for my family.
If You like to gamble, drink and play A private club may be just what you need.
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On 4/29/2023 at 9:50 PM, Docdent said:
Anyone else here not happy with your custom fitted clubs? About a year ago I went to club champion and got fitted for new irons. I feel that the fitter pushed me to a certain brand (ping G425) and after the fitting was very pushy. Almost like a used car salesperson.
When the clubs came in they were easy to hit. So, I sold my current irons. After a short period of time I realized the new irons were 1-2 clubs shorter.
I went back to a different club champion (closer to my home) and the fitter reviewed everything. I was fitted at 2 degrees upright. But, the irons club champion built had different lie angles for each club. Some were 4 degrees upright and other 4 degrees flat. He fixed that. But, that still didn't fix my problem.
I had a similar issue with Club Champion. I went thru a full bag fitting in Fairfax Virginia during Covid.
First of all I would never do a whole bag fitting in a day again. I hit to many balls for irons and driver so the hybrids and fairways got small time and the putter was rushed while the wedges just got new shafts in my current wedges no real fitting involved.
When they came I struggled for a few months before giving up and going for an iron fitting at a different place. After the fitting the fitter notice I was fit to 2 degrees upright but my irons were 2 degrees flat. My fairways were never right for me they sliced 30 to 40 yards. Driver was good. The putter was great for my friend and he bought it for what I paid. The wedges ballooned and lost over ten yards.
I played the same clubs for 20 years after my previous fitting. (two different sets of the same irons) Over the last year I have fitted to new irons, driver and hybrids. I self fitted my wedges and went back to my old 3 wood and putter.
I bought several wedges from different companies based on MGS testing and a few I had used in the past. I picked three brands plus set pitching wedge.
I fitted for irons at PXG because I played gen 3 irons and my clubs pro needed a favor and offered to get me a new set of Gen 6 irons as payment. The irons are the black version and they are sexy looking and amazing feeling. Our member guest had titlist doing outdoor fittings for free and I got Tsr 3 driver and Tsi 2 hybrids. I love both. My 20 year old custom putter looked like it's age but played like a dream come true so I recently saw Paige Spiranac's new putter in a video and decided to get mine rehabed to look as good as it plays. I did lots of research and sent it to East Coast Custom Putters to get it in Rainbow PVD finish with so custom work as well. Waiting to get it back but it will now look like the show piece and putt like a magic wand.
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22 hours ago, Jonesie said:
I gotta be honest, I had never heard of one and had to go look it up!
I’m enjoying everyone’s input on the thread. Thanks!
I play a positive Putter P2.
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22 hours ago, Jonesie said:
I gotta be honest, I had never heard of one and had to go look it up!
I’m enjoying everyone’s input on the thread. Thanks!
I met the creator at a golf show and got a custom fitting with him that day back in 1997 and I still love it today!
Planned 2030 Golf Ball Rollback
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The manufactures need to make a stand and just keep selling the balls they make now!
Maybe Snell or Vice or both will just say, "If you want to keep playing the balls like you play now we are here for you." They would rocket to the top of ball sales!
I am going to buy enough balls to play for the rest of my life and they can just kick rocks! I play this game for fun and rolling back distance in my senior years is like lining up to get kicked in the nuts for fun!
Hello, if they roll back the ball 20% they effectively making the courses a tee box longer for everyone. So what happened to Tee it Forward? This will cause 5 1/2 hour rounds and that will cause lot's of golfers to quit and move to Pickleball! I can't run and play the sports of my youth. Golf is all I have left, they can't stand their success they are going to destroy the game with this idiousy.
I am sick of these rules guys. I just had my old square grooved KZG irons refinished and regrooved and at my age I never plan to enter a USGA event so their opinion no longer matters. I will play divots as ground under repair and OB and all hazards as lateral with a single stroke penalty. I won't carry a handicap and will provide my average score to anyone that need to know really I think it is a far more honest way to represent playing ablity.
I can afford to buy and play the gear I like and will from now on!!!
The USDA and R&A have lost their way and need to be reset.