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Interesting reading the discussion on this video over on one of the other forums. Got shut down for a while and then opened back up after requests from the membership. Quite a bit of MGS bashing.

I'd like to know who's jealous of MGS? I've got an idea who it might be however I can't grasp the reason behind it. Sounds a bit insecure to me.

 

 

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I'd like to know who's jealous of MGS? I've got an idea who it might be however I can't grasp the reason behind it. Sounds a bit insecure to me.

 

 

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I could guess that the website is similar to a Subaru model...

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I could guess that the website is similar to a Subaru model...

  Either that or a 1952 Studebaker

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Ah man, I was just about to post this exact thing.

Ya, me too[emoji16]

 

 

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http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1558788-mgs-rant-on-putter-artisans/page__pid__16389946?do=findComment&comment=16389946

 

They're allowing the discussion to be opened back up on WRX of this video... Thought some might want to see that discussion as well.

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http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1558788-mgs-rant-on-putter-artisans/page__pid__16389946?do=findComment&comment=16389946

 

They're allowing the discussion to be opened back up on WRX of this video... Thought some might want to see that discussion as well.

Thanks for posting the link. I was in no hurry to go search myself. Granted I haven't read the whole thread, but most of the comments I'm reading seem to be on the same side of the discussion as Adam (or at least understand what he's getting at).

 

 

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Oh man...why did Rookie have to post that link.  I went and read it, made what I thought was a rationale post and immediately got quoted and replied back by a troll.  Should have known better..ha

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Oh man...why did Rookie have to post that link. I went and read it, made what I thought was a rationale post and immediately got quoted and replied back by a troll. Should have known better..ha

Oh geez. I'll give you emotional support like I give the Redskins but I'm not about to suit up.

 

 

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Oh geez. I'll give you emotional support like I give the Redskins but I'm not about to suit up.

 

 

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LMAO. Thats funny. But very wise. Fighting trolls is a no win situations.

 

 

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LMAO. Thats funny. But very wise. Fighting trolls is a no win situations.

 

 

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Well I followed the kind Rookie posted. WOW

There sure is a bit of hate, jealousy whatever on the “dark side”.

Carolina, u did give it a honest try to communicate in good faith.

 

 

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The sad thing is that I will go to WRX and read things of interest. I've tried posting a time or two. They are many fine people there as there are here. Thankfully we seem to pack the ones who love to pontificate.

 

Occasionally several of us will vent (myself included) but it's occasional not predictable.

 

I dare say that when it comes to tech Adam knows what he's talked about. People don't like to hear that their favorite or the thing that they just shelled out $400 or more for is a sham. So they go after the messenger.

 

It is curious to me that positives about EVNRoll have twice elicited such violent reactions. Could be coincidence but it is of note.

 

 

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The sad thing is that I will go to WRX and read things of interest. I've tried posting a time or two. They are many fine people there as there are here. Thankfully we seem to pack the ones who love to pontificate.

 

Occasionally several of us will vent (myself included) but it's occasional not predictable.

 

I dare say that when it comes to tech Adam knows what he's talked about. People don't like to hear that their favorite or the thing that they just shelled out $400 or more for is a sham. So they go after the messenger.

 

It is curious to me that positives about EVNRoll have twice elicited such violent reactions. Could be coincidence but it is of note.

 

 

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I've never been on that site but I poked around and it does strike me more as a "typical forum." It's the type of place where knowledgeable opinions are intermixed with personal attacks and aggressive behavior.

 

I tend to think of MGS as more of a community. People have different opinions and discuss them in civility. While I've seen heated disagreements, I have yet to see a personal attack.

 

 

It's still different strokes for different folks. WRX is successful for a different reason than MGS but it can't be denied that they're both influential forums in the golf community.

 

 

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I used to check into that site occasionally but never got into it. I don't care for the attack mode by some. It's so easy to attack when hiding behind a computer screen. Face to face won't happen.

 

 

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Yep. I still visit it from time to time. And for the most part my exchanges and comments have been met with other reasonable and productive comments. Even if it's a differing view. But you run into to occasional jerk trying to show their bravado on a keyboard and it reminds me why I don't visit as often anymore.

 

Stud summed it up pretty well.

 

 

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On topic. I did order a MLA last night. I was intrigued by those during the review and the MGS discount made it too tough to pass up.

 

 

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On topic. I did order a MLA last night. I was intrigued by those during the review and the MGS discount made it too tough to pass up.

 

 

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If I didn't purchase an Odyssey Oworks #7 last month I would be all over this. But SWMBO would have a fit.

 

 

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If I didn't purchase an Odyssey Oworks #7 last month I would be all over this. But SWMBO would have a fit.

 

 

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I understand. Putter is actually one thing I haven't bought in almost two years. So I was due. Ha

 

 

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The proliferation of mental midgets over there never ceases to amaze me. Rather, it's further confirmation of how uphill the battle can be when you're entirely dedicated to performance. 

 

Humans will always have preferences which are colored by non-performance attributes (brand preference, aesthetics, vanity, etc) - That's not the point. 

 

The point is when you have a single metric and a single focus, you hold those other factors constant. Some can handle this type of analysis and approach - and clearly others cannot. 

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