Ding-dong Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, azstu324 said: Would you say that the PLB is maybe a little more reliable? My observation over months of using it is that it's suitable for a variety of my imperfect swing traits and when my swing is on point, it's a beast.. AND can really handle some extra juice when applied. As for the 3 wood idea, a group of us have really found the Garafalloy GWX sold through Golf works to be a great wood option. Same price as the PLB but a few grams heavier and feels great in a 3 wood. I think the PLB is quite inert to head weight and lets you step on it when you want. I am still sorting myself out, I really have been dreadful these last few years. I was always a smooth swinger with fluid transition… this allows me to drop flexes and play pretty much anything, it’s just I have not taken advantage of this. I think this helped with Autoflex, it doesn’t like aggressive transitions and head weight was a real problem. PLB isn’t that fussy, and it’s pretty stout even in L flex. But the more I used the more I like it, I have a bail out shot that goes right to left, and I can dial down my power .. it gives options and my scoring will benefit. azstu324, cksurfdude and Bang60 2 1 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 2/27/2023 at 2:45 PM, DukeStKing said: Either driver head ended up being the Paradym. I finally pulled the trigger after a fitting session at PGA SS- my numbers with the Paradym were a lot better. So here’s the head weight of the Paradym- 2 grams lighter than the Rogue. Should be even easier to Otto Phlex it… so I have that going for me, which is nice. So I finally switched the adapters on my Grafalloy PLB and man the Callaway adapter must be so much heavier than the Ping- I didn’t weigh them before installing (I regret that now). The swing weight with the lighter Paradym head is D4 with the same set up as the Ping G425 (grip and length) and the Ping was D1. So I have to start experimenting again- I don’t want to get a lighter head weight for the Paradym so I may cut the length of the shaft. Thoughts? cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Can’t you add weight grip side? I was using the Callaway adapter and rogue head around 194-196 grams and autoflex was 45,5” long . Club builder balanced it out using a layer of grip tape, mcc +4 mid size grip . Bang60, DukeStKing and cksurfdude 3 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 11:19 AM, Ding-dong said: Can’t you add weight grip side? I was using the Callaway adapter and rogue head around 194-196 grams and autoflex was 45,5” long . Club builder balanced it out using a layer of grip tape, mcc +4 mid size grip . I had the midsize grip on the old set-up with the Ping. So I’ll put a Jumbo grip on and that should do it. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, DukeStKing said: I had the midsize grip on the old set-up with the Ping. So I’ll put a Jumbo grip on and that should do it. You could also run a strip of lead tape under the grip to add weight without having to go to a bigger sized grip cksurfdude 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Weigh the head , if you’re over 200g you may struggle.. all I have read has suggested it’s a problem. Some went up a flex, which seems counter intuitive. It has been confirmed they will replace my AF, I have requested a tour adapter so will see, otherwise I will back to back and see if I can make it objective cksurfdude 1 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ding-dong said: Weigh the head , if you’re over 200g you may struggle.. all I have read has suggested it’s a problem. Some went up a flex, which seems counter intuitive. It has been confirmed they will replace my AF, I have requested a tour adapter so will see, otherwise I will back to back and see if I can make it objective Hey if you end up liking the PLB better, you just made $500+ when you sell that whip stick cksurfdude 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, azstu324 said: Hey if you end up liking the PLB better, you just made $500+ when you sell that whip stick Well maybe nearly broke even … I was thinking should I get it prepped for the 3 wood but to be honest 45.5 “ and a Callaway adapter may make it easier to move on if need be. But it won’t hit 500 dollars .. in the U.K. they are even more sceptical ! I was 20+ yards beyond both the guys at the weekend on the 18th hole, this was the only time I really went after it. I told them it was a lady shaft and they were a bit non plussed.. both were happy with their 70g stiff flex drivers , so that’s okay because they are the ones losing out. cksurfdude 1 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ding-dong said: I was 20+ yards beyond both the guys at the weekend on the 18th hole, this was the only time I really went after it. I told them it was a lady shaft and they were a bit non plussed.. both were happy with their 70g stiff flex drivers , so that’s okay because they are the ones losing out. Yeah prides a tough pill to swallow in this sport. Haven't converted any of my close golf buddies either.. even when I'm consistently out driving them and in the my middle of the fairway. cksurfdude 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Curious for those of you who have had this work - what swing adjustments have you made, if any? cksurfdude 1 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* ( FX 3.0 140 M0 Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (4-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official 2024 TaylorMade Qi10 Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62804-taylormade-qi10-drivers-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1014200 My Official 2023 Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, IndyBonzo said: Curious for those of you who have had this work - what swing adjustments have you made, if any? The only real swing adjustment I made, and I think this is important regardless of shaft change, is making sure my tempo is nice and even and synched up with my body rotation. I've always had a relatively low spinning drive as well as the ability to hit up on the ball without issue. My club path is pretty consistently in to out which I think helps keep spin lower.. but can also contribute to the pull hook if I'm getting ahead of myself, hence keeping my tempo and body connected. The biggest overall club adjustment that I think I made was to drop the head loft to 7.5°. IndyBonzo and cksurfdude 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang60 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, IndyBonzo said: Curious for those of you who have had this work - what swing adjustments have you made, if any? I've tried to be alot smoother in my swing which has actually got me into better habits, I'm watching the ball on the Tee upto contact whereas I wasn't doing that before... cksurfdude and IndyBonzo 2 Quote I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, IndyBonzo said: Curious for those of you who have had this work - what swing adjustments have you made, if any? If you’re asking about the PBL ? Then nothing but I believe it’s more stable or shall we say less disconcerting than AF. Lots of problems happen when you force speed in from the top. I was prone to doing this but I started to just relax and swing, less is more was the swing thought. Now I am reigning the over the top in and it’s more in to out but this is all related to my take away, my tempo hasn’t changed as in its fluid … so it’s like previous comments about lag training , I suppose . Just build your swing up from half to full and relax, don’t hit a ball just swing the club and let it find its drop. Then hit a few balls … your body should adjust, don’t think about the distance .. it will happen. I dunno if this is the same for anyone else but thinking you’re going to really hit it really means total failure. I think subconsciously I force it and that is why it’s a disaster.. it’s hard to explain IndyBonzo and cksurfdude 2 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakation Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) I broke 160 BS yesterday for the first time! Thanks to PLB A and being more patient in the transition. Softer shaft definitely helped! Distance is in meters... Thanks to all for taking me on this journey. Next goal is >110 CHS. Edited March 21, 2023 by peakation ejgaudette, IndyBonzo, cksurfdude and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang60 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, peakation said: I broke 160 BS yesterday for the first time! Thanks to PLB A and being more patient in the transition. Softer shaft definitely helped! Distance is in meters... Thanks to all for taking me on this journey. Next goal is >110 CHS. Nice work keep it up... peakation and cksurfdude 2 Quote I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, peakation said: I broke 160 BS yesterday for the first time! Thanks to PLB A and being more patient in the transition. Softer shaft definitely helped! Distance is in meters... Thanks to all for taking me on this journey. Next goal is >110 CHS. Them's some really good looking #'s! I think you nailed it with having "patience" and just staying composed in your swing. Nice work! peakation, cksurfdude, Bang60 and 1 other 4 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:29 AM, DukeStKing said: So I finally switched the adapters on my Grafalloy PLB and man the Callaway adapter must be so much heavier than the Ping- I didn’t weigh them before installing (I regret that now). The swing weight with the lighter Paradym head is D4 with the same set up as the Ping G425 (grip and length) and the Ping was D1. So I have to start experimenting again- I don’t want to get a lighter head weight for the Paradym so I may cut the length of the shaft. Thoughts? Posting this as an idea for others. I found an old Tour Lock (30 grams) in my garage- and my wife is always telling me to thro w things out- that’ll show her. I used to use them in my putters. I took the brass weight off and put a nut on and it was down to 17 grams. I drilled a hole in the top of my grip and installed it- used some crazy glue to secure it to the grip - it’s flush to the top and done. The nut being slightly larger than the brass weight makes it sit securely inside the shaft. 17 grams of counter-weight got me to D1. The beauty of this method is you can experiment with different nut sizes until you get it at the swing weight you want without having ti purchase different counter weights. Going to the range tonight to make sure the set-up works well in the Paradym, then off to Florida this weekend. IndyBonzo, cksurfdude and Bang60 3 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakation Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 hours ago, DukeStKing said: Posting this as an idea for others. I found an old Tour Lock (30 grams) in my garage- and my wife is always telling me to thro w things out- that’ll show her. I used to use them in my putters. I took the brass weight off and put a nut on and it was down to 17 grams. I drilled a hole in the top of my grip and installed it- used some crazy glue to secure it to the grip - it’s flush to the top and done. The nut being slightly larger than the brass weight makes it sit securely inside the shaft. 17 grams of counter-weight got me to D1. The beauty of this method is you can experiment with different nut sizes until you get it at the swing weight you want without having ti purchase different counter weights. Going to the range tonight to make sure the set-up works well in the Paradym, then off to Florida this weekend. I have started to think of SW as more of a theoretical thing. How is the feel swinging the club when you put the counterweight in? My thought is that it is more weight in the hands and that would ultimately slow me down, yet SW is low. I don't know if it makes sense? I haven't tried the counterweights route myself as I got down to a reasonable SW with head weights. The analogy is swinging a light or heavy dumbell. The counterweight is so light in comparison so I don't know if it has any negative effects. cksurfdude and DukeStKing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 For me swing weight is feel, the actual weight can be disguised… but I am a gorilla. But I will caveat that statement, gorillas do get tired over the round, so you may not feel it but the energy consumption is up. I have been planning some objective testing and the conversation took an interesting turn. I mentioned the shaft weight and that’s when a bit of negativity slipped in, 60g is normal this is away from normal etc… But normal based on recent history. Steel shafts were pretty mono dimensional they lacked bespoke bend profiles, they are just rolled sheets of metal . There is maybe some finessing in the tapering etc … but graphite shafts are a world apart regarding manipulation of profile. I also said I suspect the hickory club makers were probably artisans and manipulated the bend profiles as well … steel just took the fidelity of it all off the table. anyway that’s just engineering stuff and might be a bit too much .. sorry, I go in this direction cksurfdude 1 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, peakation said: I have started to think of SW as more of a theoretical thing. How is the feel swinging the club when you put the counterweight in? My thought is that it is more weight in the hands and that would ultimately slow me down, yet SW is low. I don't know if it makes sense? I haven't tried the counterweights route myself as I got down to a reasonable SW with head weights. The analogy is swinging a light or heavy dumbell. The counterweight is so light in comparison so I don't know if it has any negative effects. Funny that you should bring this up. When I had my Ping 425 head I replaced the head weight to get the swing weight down. The club felt really light. At the range yesterday, I was comparing the OP with the stock Hzrdus Silver 50 gram that is got fitted with when I got the Paradym and the Ventus Red 5s I had in my Ping and the winner was the Ventus. I hit some bombs with it. The OP didn’t feel noticeably lighter as it had in the Ping. (This is one of the things I’ve learned about myself through this experiment- that I really like the lighter shafts? Thus the 50 gram Hzrdus) I wasn’t getting great results with the OP- high pushes with less carry. I’ll be leaving it at home for my trip and bring the Hzrdus and Ventus to Florida. I’ll give it another test when I get back. Otherwise, it’ll be back to the drawing board with the OP. Edited March 22, 2023 by DukeStKing cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I was wondering whether this was the couch potatoes speed stick training … I mean that seems so much hard work so why not remove the weight from your playing clubs and skip the training. Bang60 1 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 4:33 AM, peakation said: How is the feel swinging the club when you put the counterweight in? Just my 2¢ it is, obviously, a very individual feel .. like almost everything else in golf I guess! Me personally.. not too crazy about counterbalanced shafts or clubs (eg. Edel putter). In fact part of me getting into this O-P Experiment was getting away from the CB shaft that came with my driver... peakation 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakation Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Just my 2¢ it is, obviously, a very individual feel .. like almost everything else in golf I guess! Me personally.. not too crazy about counterbalanced shafts or clubs (eg. Edel putter). In fact part of me getting into this O-P Experiment was getting away from the CB shaft that came with my driver... Thanks for feedback. I tried two years ago to lengthen my Ping driver (with CB shaft I think), and it worked OK at the time. When I pick it up now, it feels so strange. The CB part is also lower as I put in a shaft extender. Removed a lot of weight in the head and SW is ok. But the whole club now feels very off compared to PLB A in SIM2 head. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 10:23 AM, peakation said: But the whole club now feels very off Yeah something that's not discussed as much is balance point which def has a big effect on each person's feel of the club overall; eg. keeping everything else equal a CB shaft or club will prob have a higher balance point vs non-CB. Nolan220 and peakation 2 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan220 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I am still using my set up for this and been still driving the ball really well .. my questions has anyone tried to go back to their old set up after having success with this to see the results ? I had a stiff flex driver shaft and always curious if the results would change much cksurfdude and IndyBonzo 2 Quote Speedzone Driver Tensei AV Blue or G400 SFT 10. KBS TD 50 Category 3 shaft King Speedzone Black Yellow Fairway 3 wood Tensei AV Blue 65 F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft T300 4i-GW - Tensei AV Blue AM2 Regular Flex or JPX 900 Hot Metal 5 - GW Project X Lz 4.5 Regular Flex Graphite Glide 2.0 SS Wedges 54 & 58 TP Red White Ardmore Putter - BGT Stability Tour Black shaft Precision Pro NX7 range finder Ultralight Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Nolan220 said: I am still using my set up for this and been still driving the ball really well .. my questions has anyone tried to go back to their old set up after having success with this to see the results ? I had a stiff flex driver shaft and always curious if the results would change much I did this experiment, trying my original shaft length after having success with the shorter shaft, and my results were worse immediately with the longer shaft. Nolan220 and cksurfdude 2 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* ( FX 3.0 140 M0 Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (4-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official 2024 TaylorMade Qi10 Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62804-taylormade-qi10-drivers-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1014200 My Official 2023 Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding-dong Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I have swapped back and forth, but you need to reprogram your timing or at least adjust. I think staying in a light flexible set up is good, this game is about rhythm and timing. Heavy and stiff shafts compensate in reality for these. For me this migrates through my whole bag and I am seeing improvements in my irons etc ( putting is unaffected ) Nolan220, IndyBonzo and cksurfdude 3 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan220 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, IndyBonzo said: I did this experiment, trying my original shaft length after having success with the shorter shaft, and my results were worse immediately with the longer shaft. did you change flex too or was it just length .. I am a short length guy i always choke up on my clubs 1 hour ago, Ding-dong said: I have swapped back and forth, but you need to reprogram your timing or at least adjust. I think staying in a light flexible set up is good, this game is about rhythm and timing. Heavy and stiff shafts compensate in reality for these. For me this migrates through my whole bag and I am seeing improvements in my irons etc ( putting is unaffected ) I agree with this I like the lighter flexible shafts whippy feeling .. IndyBonzo and cksurfdude 2 Quote Speedzone Driver Tensei AV Blue or G400 SFT 10. KBS TD 50 Category 3 shaft King Speedzone Black Yellow Fairway 3 wood Tensei AV Blue 65 F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft T300 4i-GW - Tensei AV Blue AM2 Regular Flex or JPX 900 Hot Metal 5 - GW Project X Lz 4.5 Regular Flex Graphite Glide 2.0 SS Wedges 54 & 58 TP Red White Ardmore Putter - BGT Stability Tour Black shaft Precision Pro NX7 range finder Ultralight Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 @Nolan220 I used the same shaft in the same flex. The only difference was length. Hope that helps! Nolan220 and cksurfdude 2 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* ( FX 3.0 140 M0 Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (4-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official 2024 TaylorMade Qi10 Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62804-taylormade-qi10-drivers-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1014200 My Official 2023 Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Nolan220 said: I am still using my set up for this and been still driving the ball really well .. my questions has anyone tried to go back to their old set up after having success with this to see the results ? I had a stiff flex driver shaft and always curious if the results would change much I've thought about it for funsies. I still have the original Fuji Motore X F1 6X, but only because I can't get anybody interested to buy it. The 1 thing keeping me from going back.. this setup is just so good and successful for me that I just don't have a much desire to go back. I'll get around to it someday Nolan220, IndyBonzo, Ding-dong and 2 others 4 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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