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On 7/15/2021 at 1:25 PM, TBS said:
If I was an equipment company, I would stay far away from Bryson. The amount of resources you would have to put forward to R&D to make a driver that fits Bryson would take a lot of time, money, and people.
Full recap of what happened - in Bryson's post round interview (https://twitter.com/theopen/status/1415699970276139010?s=21) he says the "driver sucks" and mishits result in really bad shots. Golfweek then gets a Cobra rep to comment on his statement. The rep who goes into detail about what they are having to do to work with Bryson. People are actively CAD'ing to get him a better driver.
At what point is Cobra not seeing ROI when Bryson demands so much? What they design for him would never touch a shelf in a big box store.
So I have posted previously that IMO Bryson needs to make his mind up whether he’s wants to be like the professional long drivers or compete with a consistency which positions him on a Sunday to have a chance of winning. Like the Cobra rep stated, “the magic bullet becomes harder and harder to find the faster you swing and the lower your loft gets” (Golfweek link-Cobra Rep quote).
Bryson certainly has the physique to bulk and swing all out like the long drivers. But both are erratic at best and live for the one monster shot. Bryson has one shot per grid and while he can play outside the grid — i.e. fairways he then reveals a key weakness IMO with the wedges he uses. So it looks like he is scrambling like a short hitter around the greens yet he hit longest freaking drive in the group.
So I say all that to say the next company should he part ways with Cobra (and I don’t think he will near term) will need very experienced and patient team to cater to Bryson’s high demands regarding equipment. Not too many companies with single length club technology track record/resources that Cobra possess. Sure the other big companies could assemble a team but is the risk (ie. business model and potential profits) worth the gamble? I mean should he get a green jacket or another US Open everybody has new opinions and profits most likely follow.
Right now he has time on his side and a body that can do what in his mind he is trying to achieve but….. that won’t last forever and the older he gets unless he begins to dominate then he better get some public relations advice and simplify things a bit regarding his equipment and course management. Talent is there but so it is for many many others in game today. I hope he finds success again as I do think he's good for the game.
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On 7/15/2021 at 3:01 PM, ChasenLogan said:
Hello all!
I currently game Mizuno 919 Tours with Project X 6.0 steel shafts STD length. Ive been hitting my irons solid and I launch the ball fairly high even though Project X is stated to be a low launch shaft. Ive been wanting to gain more club head speed as well as save my joints some shock so I been researching alot into graphite shafts. Ive already switched my wedges to steelfiber shafts and i love the feel of them so i was wondering if i should reshaft the rest of my irons to steelfiber i95? I just dont know how this change from steel to graphite (120g to 95g) might change the launch of the ball since i95 is shown as a mid/high launch.
Current swing weight with my Project X 6.0 is about a D2/D3. With steelfibers i believe i calculated that it would drop to somewhere around a C6/C7. Is there a noticeable difference in distance, smash factor, launch or speed when dropping 6 or 7 swing weights while using graphite?
Also from general shaft fitting tables, it shows that i should be playing with shafts at -0.5" in length. If i move to graphite should i be playing -0.5" or still play STD length?
Sorry for all the questions, Im just trying to learn as much as i can. Thanks everyone!
So many quality good responses already in the thread. One thing I have learned over the years regarding transitioning from a heavier weight shaft (whether steel or graphite) is that the new shaft I transitioned to may have been lighter in weight but the feel remained. Subjective I know. I do not go by swing weight numbers anymore. I research the shaft brand/model and attempt to understand how the zones of the shaft are weighted/stiffened. For example you hear things about a shaft that may say the butt/grip end is very stiff and the mid section weaker/softer and the tip extra stiff, etc, etc. With graphite, many many combinations that affect your perception of feel. And of course the grips and how much they weigh in conjunction with the newer shaft affect swing weight. Once my research period is over I attempt to read forums like MGS to see what others feel about a brand/model. Then I order a shaft and attempt to build a like club (length/flex/same grip I plan to play) and test OR go to driving range/retail place that may have irons with the brand/model shaft I am interested in. Just my process but you did good asking in a community forum like MGS. Good luck with the one you choose to go with.
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It just amazes me how good these guys really are but how mental/playing loose and being a little off can affect their rounds from day to day. Both Bryson and Rickie card 65's on final round. Oh what could have been is a common thought among many I am sure. Ready to see the contenders. Should be good.
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On 7/15/2021 at 12:18 PM, Hacker Rod said:
I don't think you can easily categorize the player who successfully bags a Mini Driver. I'm a mid-capper, and I've carried one for years (three different models). It's my go-to when the driver isn't behaving. Or more accurately, when my driver swing isn't behaving. Maybe it's not supposed to work for me, but it does. In fact, the Original One works so well for me, I'm already pondering adding the new 300. I'm quite certain it's just a matter of time.
Your response is well stated. For me I guess its because I learned to play back when persimmon drivers were the standard as were 42.5 -43.5" total club length. I guess that is why I really have trouble hearing people say a mini-driver (whatever that is size wise - i..e. <200 cc, 260cc or 300ish cc, etc ?) cannot work for them. Yet they game a similar size modern 3 wood to tee off with.
I get 460cc allows a longer club and more face area to help with mishits/ball speed, etc but call me old school I still say one should swing the longest club they can hit in the screws (middle of face). For me its a 260cc Wishon FD. The size fits my eye, again just looks more traditional and the right size in address position (again influence from another era). I hit it reasonably straight and its predictable for me. Can turn it over for roll and/or hold off for fades and it has a hot face providing plenty of roll when fairways are conducive. Play it at 43.5".
Yes I can hit 45" 460cc modern size drivers but with less predictable results regarding height and direction. Both my sons being of modern 460cc era are polar opposite and can only hit the modern size drivers. Oh well each to their own. I appreciate any company bringing one of the modern "mini" models to market, doubt business model can sustain unless the club might could also double as 3 wood off the deck. Interesting TXG video where they test the TM mini and state the TM mini could fit some golfers as a three wood. All for options for the consumer. Hope TM succeeds and other companies bring out their versions.
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Not saying he's gonna win but Cory Conners leads the stats regarding driving accuracy/fairways hit at near ~93% and approach shots/GIR at ~88%. Pretty good stats to have on your side going into final round. However its a major and one shot, one hole can destroy a round. Again I don't have strong vibe he wins but wouldn't be surprised after viewing those stats. Should be fun round to watch tomorrow.
- Rickp, cnosil and GolfSpy_SHARK
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These are some funny and very good comments in this thread. I just think he needs to make his mind up is he going to swing like the long driver folks or use his intellect and actually think for a change about going all out every tee-shot. Not like he can't reach every green in regulation on tour with like a hybrid off the tee with his length
. Seriously he really needs to work on those wedges and throttle back on the driver. But what do I know I would give anything to hit it as far as him. Hopefully he and Cobra will find happiness with a driver model.
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On 7/1/2021 at 3:45 PM, myherobobhope said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a Long Tom for a little bit... they never seem to pop up anymore... the used market is weird. I've also been looking for a 3 deep from Callaway with no success...
I'd love to see some competition in this space and see what other OEMs make... I just want a "bigger" three wood head as it's primarily a tee club for me.
Had the Cobra Long Tom as well. Wish I had kept it. I built myself a Wishon 919 FD / 260cc several years ago and its my money club off the tee. Only change shafts out occasionally. And the hosel is bendable (face angle/lie angle) and two weight ports. Competition/fitting options are good for consumer.
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7 hours ago, ST3LTR0 said:
If you don't use reddit then ELI5 is a subreddit that stands for "Explain like I'm 5."
I've found it particularly difficult to learn how shafts work and how to read the shaft specs. I understand "or think I do" some of the terms such as torque "amount of turn?", weight, length, tip, but don't understand how the addition of multiple specifications together actually change the dynamics of what the shaft does. I've tried probably about 40-50 shafts so I understand that some feel stiffer, some feel "whippier", swing weight differences, etc but what I don't understand is how we put all of that together to compliment a persons swing. I've heard statements like counter balanced but don't have any understanding of what that means. Please someone explain like I'm five if you don't want to get into the details or push me into a direction where I can learn as much as possible and read about what the specs mean and what changes/benefits are caused by the various specifications. If you're willing to go beyond and detailed I would really appreciate it as well. I will not be offended if I do respond to an answer with a question and nobody answers the follow on. I really just want to learn the physics behind this stuff.
Previous posts have great content/advice. Several of the golf shaft brands have very good websites and as you have found good videos.
Admittedly I am a Tom Wishon disciple for club-making, club-fitting and golf technical research. https://wishongolf.com/twgt-books/ . Tom has tremendous knowledge regarding golf shafts.
And there are tons of Wishon Tube videos and web content if you do a search. Several of his books discuss golf shafts in depth. And MGS community has many members with tremendous knowledge and that respond to golf shaft questions.
- Brettyboy187, cnosil and ST3LTR0
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On 7/12/2021 at 12:49 PM, TBS said:
I saw that NOBULL recently released a golf shoe https://www.nobullproject.com/collections/golf?page=1
I used to do a lot of CrossFit and these shoes were really popular when they first came out. I think they are still pretty popular but there is a running joke that they have not changed their style or features since they were launched over 5 years ago, maybe 10 years? Their claim is that it is no frills and all you need in a shoe. I'm guessing this is their same claim for the golf shoes.
For a no frills golf shoe, $180 seems a little steep. Hopefully they show up in the next spikeless tests.
Agree the price is steep given they do not have a track record regarding golf shoes. I do wear their shoes ( one trainer shoe and a ripstop runner-my favorite casual sneaker of all time) and like their clothing. Pricey but I have never purchased anything from them that was not high quality and fit perfect. But it kinda really should be for the price. I am interested in hearing reviews for their golf shoes.
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I like the John Deer tournament for seeing all the various John Deer tractors, mowers. All the ones I can't have but wish I had
. Very much like St. Jude tournament for what it represents and supports. The Memorial well its Jack's tournament and condition is immaculate and beautiful much like Augusta.
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6 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:
It is odd that Phil opted for Schwab over the Senior Major. Maybe Phil isn't connecting with the guys on the Champions Tour and/or simply does not feel they offer the competition he wants? I don't know if he's been asked this question by the media but it would interesting to hear his answer.
Might have to do with the Colonial greens being Bent grass (minus the poa ana) like Torrey Pines South course and length that the PGA courses play vs PGATOUR Champions. Total guess on my part but imo I think this was a practice opportunity for Phil for the US Open.
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One part of preparation that I believe helped me the most when I competed in tournaments was to make sure I had knowledge of the course design and a course strategy plan. In other words I played the course a few times in which the tournament would be held (not always but my preference if at all possible). And I would play each hole backwards in my mind. Would stand on the green, walk out to desired approach location and then back to tee. My practice/prep would be hitting those locations for the par fours/fives. The par three prep for me was simply picking two to three spots on the green that I would want to putt from based on front/middle/back pin location. I changed my mind set from a try to hit it down the middle and see where it goes approach to a visualize my target locations on each specific hole and hit to that area. Always about the second shot -- where would I want to hit my next shot from.
And finally my warm/up pre-round practice was timed (everyone is different here, so experiment in your practice before a round to dial it in). 15 min chipping/few sand shots (if practice bunker available), 20 min full bag/range (not more than a few balls for even or odd numbered irons and no more than five to seven drivers focusing on tempo/holding my finish) and 10 min of good "focused" (couple of long lag putts to a golf tee) and short 3-4 ft putts around the hole.
Make sure you allow enough time to go the rest room before tee time and/or a light snack/water-hydration AND (in my case --turn the cell phone off or sound to vibrate).
Probably not the best approach but what I suggested definitely improved my scoring consistency among my tournaments and helped me identify changes needed for the next time I competed. Additional benefit for me was I was able to identify the areas I needed to practice/get help with (swing instruction). Good luck.
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Some nice post in this thread. Guess I was lucky in one way that I learned to play during persimmon era. Was taught how to fade or draw on demand primarily through stance setup with occasional ball position change and/or open/close face-grip mod . Always been able to do it with smaller wooden woods and/or blade like irons. My misses are not result of a natural tendency per se rather poor swing execution.
Admit with modern technology (I first experienced with original Big Bertha metal woods/90's) that it is much more difficult to work ball with metal woods vs persimmons for me. And larger the club heads progressed over time it was also the harder for me to work a ball. So today I play for a straight ball flight with very little curvature. IF I have to play a curved type shot I prefer a draw as I can still turn my hands over/close face pretty consistent at impact but I need more room or wider fairways for rollout vs in past when I could easily play a high or low baby draw. Regarding a draw with modern woods for me is the ball runs out further kinda like a hook did in old days with persimmons which was really a bad shot. The problem I have with modern woods regarding a fade is I block or hold off too long. I much preferred how I use to swing persimmon driver with open stance and just did not think about anything but making normal swing and all the paths were in place with open stance setup to produce desired fade. Just never pulled it off with consistency with advent of metal woods so I just play a straight shot off the tee. So moral of my story/journey is to just play it straight and not try to get cute off the tee (I can't carry ball as far now so I don't take on doglegs anymore--so I got that going for me-- well sorta).
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Well I am happy that Phil won today. But kinda sad to. So I attend the Regions Tradition (Champions Tour Event) each year and wanted to see him at that event. But it might be awhile now since he proved to himself and now knows he can win on regular tour ......
Anyway, awesome win for him and also good for game of golf IMO what we witnessed today.
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Two holes lots of nerves..... Wind + dried out greens, mentally taxing for sure. I like Phil's chances. Well at least after two holes
. Come on Phil!!
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Saw Abraham Ancer hit a nice sand shot from awkward stance earlier. Sunday 65, 31 on front nine pretty nice. Could be interesting in a few hours for those at the top of leaderboard....
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Agree with all @Popeye64 has posted regarding the Xcaliber Robin Arthur shafts. Absolute favorite for me is the Classic RT Spin wedge shaft closely followed by the TourX with metal mesh. Have both of those models in Ping and Wishon wedges I rotate. Another great decently weighted wedge shaft is the Paderson graphite wedge shafts. I have the Padersons in a few PW/GW's as I like those better for full swings (subjective I know but they feel firmer/very stout so I can swing hard). The Robin Arthurs/Xcaliber's I can swing easy/half shots and/or full but I like the softer feel at impact and game those in sw/lw. Regardless lots of quality graphite wedge shafts available and/or experimenting with hard/soft stepping the iron shafts.
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On 5/12/2021 at 7:54 AM, cnosil said:
If they are going to talk about how close pros hit the ball to the hole they need to do a better job of giving real information and not the BS that most announcers say.
id change the broadcast to have drone coverage of all the players. You pick the players or groups you want to watch and can stream it live. The masters coverage via the app is almost an ideal way to match golf.
100% agree regarding the Masters App. Amazing way to view a tournament, select players.
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Review the last post in this MGS old thread.
Might be a start to your research. Several other links on web, some I tried went to pages no longer working. Hopefully someone will chime in that knows more. Good luck.
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Lot of good and interesting points in previous posts. I don't know, I guess I kinda equated my all time favorite golfer to my favorite college football team. I always pulled for Jack Nicklaus back in the day and viewed him much like my favorite college football team. No matter where the golden bear played I wanted only him to win. Just like my favorite college football team..... #RTR
Today in golf well its different to me, maybe since I am so much older but I have lots of golfers that I am ok for if they win, no one favorite. I still have my favorites in team sports and that has and will never change.
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9 hours ago, G0lferJim said:
Hi All.
I purchased 3 wedges 50/12, 52/12 and 58/12
the 58 one is shorter than the other two. Should they all be the same length?
Congrats on getting the three wedges. I have played my GW/SW/LW at same lengths & bounce in the past. But the lofts were gapped minimum ~4 degrees (I.E., 50, 54, 58). Mine were high bounce and chose for thick grass at course I played at the time. Only when I play tight lie courses or winter golf do I switch to lower bounce in 2 of 3 wedges. I like high bounce for sand shots. But with wedges everyone is different. Good luck with your wedges.
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Thank you all very much. Appreciate MGS community!!!
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I can see a repeat. Probably time. Last was Boo Weekly 07/08 I think. Another question will it take a playoff? Read 5 of last 11 years went to playoff. And there is 500 FedEx pts on line. Also read 37 from Masters field are playing. I smell a birdie fest :) . Will be good tournament.
Well now, with the years first major fresh in their rearview mirrors, the field turns its attention to the RBC Heritage at Hilton Head, SC. No, not a green jacket by any stretch, but one still coveted. Even El Tigre does not have one of these in the closet (yes, I know, he's only played it once
). I just noticed that Boeing is now a major sponsor. I was so glad when our corporate brass finally jumped into the PGA Tour with the Boeing Classic (Champions Tour) event at TPC Snoqualmie in 2005... but I digress.
So who will slip on the stunning plaid jacket this year? With Webb one of my FTx anchormen and the defending champion, I'm going with a repeat
. Who ya got?
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I think you are correct in that it could be the Rawlings Tour Magic early ones. Brings back memories for me as I probably re-gripped many of those style putters for people way back. This style was very popular (if I remember correctly) in early 90's time. Several manufacturers had similar styles. Most based off the original Odyssey Dual Force Rossi II popularity. The putter you inherited has something like a balata type insert. The original Odyssey's had a cult following for many years based on that soft like feel. Nothing fancy about the shaft / grip -- all standard very common for those type putters back in the day.