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38 minutes ago, gmdeac10 said:
I don't play Pro V1s. I currently play Srixon Z-Star, but am thinking of switching to Z-Star XV. The more expensive location is Cool Clubs. It's 15 minutes longer, 1 hr 15min vs 1 hour. They also have their whole shaft database and a larger selection of aftermarket shafts. The fitter is one of like 70 master trackman certified professionals in the world, not sure that matters vs regular certification. The other location is Bobby Jones Golf Course in Atlanta. All their pros there are really good. They are in partnership with PGASS so they have all the same shaft and club options as PGASS. It basically means for shafts they'll have whatever the companies put in their fitting carts since they order from the manufacturer vs building themselves. My goal is to stick to stock if possible, unless an upgrade shaft really outperforms a stock shaft enough to justify the extra cost.
Awesome. Sounds like you know what you need and the price range you're in. Quality options either way you choose. Others have solid recommendations as well. Good luck.
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Do you play Pro V1's? Are you sure the ~$100 difference does not include additional testing/fitting? IF I played ProV1 and/or identified something extra for the more expensive option, I probably would opt for it. IF NOT, then I would save some money. Trackman fitting is nice, good luck.
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18 hours ago, M P said:
Hi Folks,
Recently got a used Callaway Rogue with a UST Helium Black 4F3. But I can't see to find any info on it. Is it a fake? The 4 series is available in F1-F2 and then F3-F5 are available only in the 5 series. Anyone know how I ended up with what I did?
If you do a search on ebay there should be results that show that possibly identify the shaft you are interested in. You might also contact Callaway customer service for information. Good luck.
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49 minutes ago, Tsmithjr9 said:
My irons do have the 4 degree gap, and so does my wedge setup 50-54-58. So the only 3* gap is PW and 50*. I'm not familiar with what soft stepping is.
Take Dead Aim
So soft step for example would be when you take a 8 iron shaft (tip prep / "how much is trimmed") and install in a 9 iron. The 9 iron is still the same length it just has a now weaker tip flexed shaft. It helps one achieve a similar albeit possibly softer feel (pending make/brand shaft) but plays a half a shaft flex weaker. That may be all it takes to regain a little lost distance/spin.
Stepping shafts is very subjective regarding like feel and for many all it would do is increase possible spin and not achieve desired distance. I just offer this idea up as something you may try some time.
Many take old clubs first and experiment before jumping all in with their gamers. From my experience the make/model/design of the shaft affects whether or not one achieves what they are after when stepping shafts. Being a club maker I have experimented with soft stepping and hard stepping shafts for a lot of years. It can work for some and some it does not at all as there are just so many variables in place when it comes to distance/spin/shot height, etc.
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My distance gaps improved when I went to ~4 deg loft gap and/or experimented with soft stepping shafts in 9, PW and GW. While I don't necessarily from a swing speed perspective fit to firm/stiff flex steel shafts, I like the feel and was able to achieve distances and feel I desired through soft stepping the firmer/stiff steel shafts in those clubs.
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That is awesome. Now I am inspired and have many ideas
. Great work.
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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:
I currently use the Tour Snsr (the blue one) in the 104cc size
Thanks for the encouragement and thanks for following a long. Yeah, the weather is not so great right now.
Love the feel of that Tour Snsr/blue grip. While I don't play it now I have in past. Additionally I wanted to share that at one period of time I enjoyed the Garsen type grips as they seem to quiet my hands or rather I did not open/close putter as much. I may go back to those on a few of my backup putters.
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5 hours ago, Timmytoe said:
Ah yes it's actually the newer f9 cobra which have different lie angles [i read that on wrx anyway]
While I am intent on fitting my on lie angle specs, the following quote is from MGS T. Covey in comments section that I find interesting regarding the F9's.
"How does this relate to lie angles? The answer lies in shaft deflection and droop. The faster you swing a club, the more the toe drops down. As a result, to achieve repeatable dynamic lie angles at impact, static lie angles need to be different (because, as it turns out, head speeds aren’t the same). I should point out that this concept isn’t unique to ONE Length. Wedge manufacturers (like Vokey for example) have moved to lie angles flatter than the standard progression would call for. Why? Less force with the wedge swing creates less relative droop. Going flatter helps normalize impact lie. (source: T.Covey -- https://mygolfspy.com/2019-cobra-f9-speedback-irons/)"
Sure if someone reached out to Cobra customer service they may can gather more information. Makes me want to get get some numbers/test with various One Length models. Thanks for pointing this out and posting.
- StrokerAce and russtopherb
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I played a few sleeves of Vice several years ago. Loved the feel but the durability wasn't there for me. But it's encouraging to see improvement with most recent testing. Might have to try again. While I game Snell I still buy just about everything else to test and use in my golf net.
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6 hours ago, Timmytoe said:
іvе rеаd thаt Cоbrа chаngеs thе lіе аnglе fоr еаch club. Thеу hаvе thеіr rеаsоns whіch Wіshоn dіsаgrееs wіth
So I prefer Wishon for several reasons but I would have no issue gaming Cobra (and I have in the past). I am a seasoned club maker and decent with fitting (will never claim expert status as technologies evolve so fast and I can not keep up with it, so I trust fitting myself/family but would not fit anyone else knowing there are more modern/qualified people with current technologies that can do better--I digress
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To point, imo the Wishon Sterlings "feel" better (very subjective I know). I have decades of experience with Wishon and trust his knowledge/design methodologies. Wishon would most likely expect you to be fit and his models adjusted to your final specs. In other words you might order stock spec (loft and lie) Sterlings and even choose a length based on static fitting say 37.5" but the loft and lie angles may need to be adjusted. With the Cobra's I see its a true one size fits all-- whatever the length you choose, the loft and lie are Cobra standards. Now I am sure Cobra or any qualified fitter can dial the Cobra's in to your true required specs I just don't think that is the business model for Cobra. So I don't see Wishon and Cobra the same. One is meant to be custom fit for all fitting variables and one is off the shelf and you have to request any special loft/lie tweaks. I have hit both and the newer models, again I am leaning towards Wishon but if you gave me a set of Cobras its on me to get them dialed in and I would game them.
Regarding lie angles, the Cobras per their web page are the same : https://www.cobragolf.com/king-f7-one-length-iron-set . All have a 62.5 lie angle in stock configuration. Maybe they do believe in different stock lie angles vs what Wishon stock lie angles are but again, most that game Wishon get their specs fitted and dialed in up front -- loft/lie and length at a minimum.
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Is it this one? https://www.aldila.com/products/rogue-white-130-msi
ROGUE® White 130 M.S.I. 70 S 46 73 0.335 3 0.616 3.7 MID
Tip Trimming Information
Driver 3 Wood 5 Wood 7 Wood 9 Wood
0" 0.5" 0.75" 1.0" 1.0"There are several people on MGS that are very good experts regarding recommending shaft information. Hopefully they will chime in. I just did a basic web search. Apologies if this is not the exact model shaft you have.
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Hope you get to play soon. Regarding pulling putts, what size/brand putter grip are you using?
Been out of commission due to the injury but should be getting back into things this week. Mainly been focused on putting at home. Discovered that my left hand was starting to creep to being too strong again, and when I do that, I start pulling putts. My putting instructor had me weaken my grip a while back, but the left hand start to creep back to being strong again (not quite as strong as it used to be). Weakening it and remembering what my grip should feel like has helped my putting quite a bit.
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- sirchunksalot and dlow206
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13 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:
Wanted to add some other anecdotal info from my fittings and shaft testing. I had a ping fitting for the g25 driver and I had a slight over the top swing. We used several shafts from their stock offering. Then switched to an after market diamana that was 72g and it improved my spin numbers and also my launch but didn’t affect my ott move.
In 2017 I had the chance to test and provide feedback on the evenflow blue shaft. It was a shaft that with my quick transition would feel boardy at the start of transition. then had the chance to go to PX HQ and work with their head of design and provide feedback and create a one off shaft based on that. The only change made was to soften the shaft feel by increasing torque. To do this it dropped the weight by 3g and they used 3 layers of a different prepreg it didn’t change the over EI profile of the shaft. On a monitor the tow shafts didn’t change in the various launch characteristics despite the better feeling in the new shaft.
That is awesome that you got to participate in a truly custom shaft created to your desires/fitting needs. Man wouldn't that be nice if it were feasible for all golfers to go and be able to have a fit shaft actually fit and feel right each time? Guess I can dream for a day.....
- M. Parsons and Rtracymog
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Today I prefer the Snell brand golf balls. The Snell MTB-Black is my current gamer of choice and the Snell Get Sum is my practice ball (short irons, wedges, chipping and putting) for home practice areas.
Occasionally I will go back to ProV1's should my family get me those as gifts. For some reason they know the Titleist brand
as I played them for so many years and well, they are Titleist after all -- "number one brand golf ball in golf".
Both Titleist and Snell have excellent reviews and balls in multiple price ranges. MGS has excellent ball lab reviews and there are quality consistent brands in all price ranges.
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So I can relate regarding rhythm and tempo with long clubs to short ones. Something I have battled for years. No swing expert here. There are numerous examples of discussions in MGS forums in which people chronicle their swing journey and methodologies. Good reads and hopefully many will chime in here.
With that stated I am currently listening, researching what Mike Adams teaches regarding how one swings based on physical characteristics including something I think is pretty cool, how we walk or rather our pace can possibly dictate how our swing tempo/rhythm should function. I won't try to explain as to be honest I am still in research/test mode.
What I will convey is another instructor of mine was adamant ones sequence (i.e. all moves in the back swing to transition down) greatly affects timing and rhythm/tempo. So with me a longer club revealed swing/transition inconsistencies vs my short irons. So I worked on hitting my positions better with a longer club which may or may not have felt slower or controlled vs a natural smooth swing with say my eight iron......Again sure others will share info. Good luck.
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5 hours ago, RollingGreens said:
Guys I know this sounds like a silly question but I have been burned in the past. My last set of irons were cobra F8's, when they arrived they had a great shiny finish. I am very meticulous with keeping my clubs clean after rounds, soft club brush, a little dish soap and warm water. Over time I found that the clubs lost their finish and polish significantly. They looked like a card that needed to be waxed and polished. Looking at the Cobra website I found one other gentleman who reviewed the irons with the same problem. I reached out to Cobra's customer service department directly and was told it is because I have hard water. Cosmetically to me the clubs looked terrible in the end. Reaching out to the forum to see what methods many of you have so I can avoid this going forward.
I use product like Bar Keepers Friend MORE Spray + Foam Multipurpose Spray Cleanser and Rust Stain Remover on some of my iron club heads. Any club head that has insert, medallion on back or other material (graphite/carbon fiber) I only use dish soap (mild amount). There is also jewelry polishes that I have seen articles about in years past but I don't use those. Sometimes the cleaning is not the issue, the clubs due to finish need polishing. There is web information on various cleaning/bringing clubs back to shine also that I have reviewed. Good luck.
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So I confess I bought one last year or year before. I have the thick indoor one but have hit balls in net and rigged it for chips. It won't lie, if you are prone to flipping as I am it will reveal it.I have seen a few YouTube ads for the Acustrike Impact Training Mat - basically a velvet-like material that will show where the club touches the ground during the swing.
Has anyone tried it or have any feedback on it?
I have been struggling with poor impact lately, and I thought it might be worth a shot. I know my impact condition is a result of a core issue that a device like this will only show the symptom and not the cure. However, the idea of instant feedback is appealing.
I found a couple knock-off, direct from China copies of the official product for about $16-18 delivered, so I ordered one. Has anyone tried the knock-off or original version?
I only like it for chipping drills and I can see my divot patterns for the various chips/pitches I am practicing for the course. I do not like it for full swing shots. Have seen the outdoor ones at local driving range.
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- Buffly and sirchunksalot
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Curious, does it happen with water activated grip tape/tape or grips put on w/air vs solvents?I have been a professional club maker for about 10 years. About 6 months ago I developed an itchy rash on my hands and wrists. When I stopped gripping clubs the rash went away. We switched from a Brampton grip solution to Golf Works, but same problem. Anyone have similar problems or solutions. Thanks Joe
Reason I ask is I read a comment (another forum or manufacturer website, etc) once where a guy was asking big time chemical compound like questions to the site regarding if a brand grip used a chemical in its production of the grip.. I think the bottom line was that the guy had sensitivity to rubber compounds/or specific types of rubber synthetics. May not be related to your situation but thought I'd mention.Hope you figure it out. Good luck.
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4 hours ago, Micah T said:
I think Adam and the guys hit the nail on the head when they said it’s easier to chip into Titleist’s ball market share with bs hot takes than investing in there manufacturing to actually make a comparable product: not sure anyone can make a ball clearly superior to ProV1. As@Middler mentioned, quality doesn’t come from catching mistakes. I don’t game any Callaway clubs anymore, but I’ve always had a soft spot for chromesoft X, the ball I broke 80 with. After this I’ll be sticking to Snell MTB-X.
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI agree with your comments. Well stated. Titleist been doing golf balls decades and have perfected their processes/learned things over time.
Kinda like Ping with its clubs/golf bags. Regardless if you play those brands, they have earned respect and most agree they have done it the right way.
Personally like ChromeSoft but prefer Snell (just score better with it). Sincerely hope Callaway succeeds with a quality golf ball product, I mean they are doing a lot things right with their AI, face technologies. Obviously golf ball business for Callaway is good but their golf ball business could be legitimate contender for #1 ball on market if they get everything clicking. Sincerely hope they do. Consumers win with more quality choices.
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This thread and the dialog in everyones responses made me think about a lesson from an instructor I saw one time. Now at that time I was experimenting with face balanced putter and a more straight back straight thru (SBST) putting motion. The instructor was against forward press motion (which I naturally do depending on mood/type greens I play) and toe hang putter models.
In order to articulate what the instructor stated, I researched web and decided to borrow the quote/link below which is nearly verbatim what the instructor stated.
" Let’s talk about what a forward press is. It’s the “changing of a vector… which is a power angle, like hitting a cue ball with a cue…” In general, forward presses are trying to take away left aim. This delofts the putter and opens the face" (source of quote:https://golfcritique.com/podcasts/forward-press-is-it-really-improving-your-putting/ ).
It was the fact that my strong arc motion had to having near perfect timing to achieve square contact. I have always putted with arc/lots of opening/closing face. And I agree if I am off I miss. Guess growing up playing hard fast bent grass can do that
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The SBST was an attempt to improve. But with 40+ years of timing my stroke I guess I will live with the risk. Its natural to me. The SBST attempt just never felt right--distance control was never there.
Sorry not trying to change the discussion of this thread, the forward press kinda brings back a lot memories and I am ok with it.
- Buffly, cnosil and GolfSpy AFG
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You reference quality proven wedge brands that work for most with & w/out being fit to. I prefer lots of testing/proper custom fit. I have several friends that just buy off rack based on loft and do just fine without any fitting or testing beforehand.
Hey guys and gals.
First post, and this forum is the reason for purchasing my TM P790s...so thank you, they hit like butter!
Now I need a set of GOOD wedges..
I got the set of 2019 P790s, 4-PW. My PW is 45°. There is an "A" wedge 50° option for the 790 set that I'm contemplating getting, and then a 54 & 58...either Vokeys or TM wedges.
The other option, is skip the 790 wedge, and jump with Vokeys or TM wedges in the 52°, 56°, 60°.
Thoughts?
...and which wedge would you guys suggest, Vokeys or TMs?
Thanks in advance!
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I have wondered as well. Tried to observe him on TV several times. I thought he did albeit not as pronounced as I have seen in past but it could have been viewing angle. And I have wondered if the type greens/speed affect his stroke mechanics?Phil stands with the ball off of his instep [of his right foot] From this guide when he used conventional grip, he delofted the putter just before swinging itdoes he still do this with his claw grip?
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I have that one and it should be fine for you and/or anyone beginning club making/repair. Would recommend watching videos (web), and investing in the club shield paste (protects from heat). Lots of knowledge in forums where clubmakers recommend/share knowledge. Good luck.Looking for ideas on a cost effective and practical shaft extractor. I want to set up a small club building station in my garage or basement. I want to be able to swap shafts and grips without taking to a pro shop. I want to start building my own clubs, at least tweaking shafts lengths and grips.
I found a pretty good selection of tools at golfworks.
Anyone have experience with this one.
Golf works.
https://www.golfworks.com/golf-mechanix-heavy-duty-shaft-extractor/p/gm1080/
Clubmaskers compact shaft extractor.
Gm1080
$224
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My range/practice time has kind of evolved the last several years. I invested in a quality golf net and applicable mats, training aids I like in order to practice mechanics through various drills. Also good for my lie angle checks since I can easily make club adjustments since everything I need is at my home (club making equipment).
When I do visit the driving range or range at the golf course I play I am not worrying about mechanics as much as I use to. That range time is mainly to get loose pre round and identify ball flight, striking consistencies for the day. Occasionally I will hit demo clubs and/or a friends club or two should I be interested.
For fun its something like Top Golf. I gave up trying to have fun a the regular driving range as it never fails I get interrupted or see old friends, etc and just lose my focus. So the driving range has to have a specific purpose and I try to zero in on that and not over do it or arrive at times when the range is overly crowded (hard to predict sometimes). Very much like @cnosiloriginal post above.