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TOUR B RX

Tour Performance specifically designed for swing speeds under 105 mph seeking maximum TOUR DISTANCE.

 

[What equipment are you thinking about?]

On 11/5/2023 at 7:21 PM, CFreddie said:

Been seeing a lot of graphite lately in friend’s irons so my curiosity is piqued. May be my next project as the season winds down…

As a fitter, UST Recoils are the most popular graphite shafts I order/sold. They are the best. Check it out.

[When Do You Switch Putters?]

LOL. Friends joke every time I play with a different putter! Tomorrow will be the third change in a week!

[Putter shafts - Do they matter?]

19 minutes ago, cnosil said:

When did you do the training and were the new graphite shafts an option for you?  I exclude stroke lab as it doesn’t do what the newer graphite shafts do.  Also feel plays a huge role for professionals as they have built feels for ball speed and these shafts significantly change feel.   

what you state isn’t exclusive to Callaway and what any putter fitting should encompass.   The measurements are just trigonometry showing how much of an angle is allowed to catch the cup.   

Based on what you said if you didn’t try these shafts as part of your fitting, you may not have gotten the best fitting and what Jon Rahm uses should have no bearing on what you use.   His selection may be a combination of performance and his personal feels   

 

Yes, composite shafts were available, and yes, all manufacturers are very similar. Cameron (Encinitas), Ping (Phoenix), and Bettinardi (Chicago), which I've also been to are as exact as Odyssey. Every individual is different, as is every putter. I don't know Rahm's specs, but just saying if a composite shaft worked better for him, he'd have it. Very few composites on Cameron shafts. It's just what works best for you.

[Putter shafts - Do they matter?]

25 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Dumb question but interested in your answer:  do you believe that Jon Rahm is currently the best putter he could possibly be and there is no room for improvement?  

Definitely. However, when I learned to fit I was at Callaway's Performance Center in Carlsbad and went thru the Odyssey fitting center, where the pros are fit, including Jon Rahm. The pros can choose any putter, insert, grip, and shaft, built exactly to their stroke. According to the Odyssey fitters, a stroke two degrees off line from 6 feet will definitely miss the cup, and their goal with the pros is (+)(-)1 degree. Most are (+)(-) 1/2 degree. I saw several pro's computer results before and after and it was amazing what this place can do! So, when the pro leaves he has the perfect putter for his stroke for that fitting. Can it change for the next fitting, definitely.

[Putter shafts - Do they matter?]

I have an original White Hot Rossie putter, which I like very much, and have considered replacing the steel shaft. That's until I watched Jon Rahm putting with the newest White Hot Rossie OG putter, and he's using a steel shaft! I've decided not to change.

[Putters: Insert vs Non-Inserts]

I like my Scotty Cameron 11.5 Phantom X, but on shorter putts, under 10', I have a hard time controlling the speed. I either blow it by or come up short because I'm afraid of blowing it by! So I bought an Odyssey Eleven S with the white hot insert. On those 10' putts I'm good, but long putts I consistently hit the ball too softly and come up short. I'm curious about other players thoughts on Inserts vs Non-Insert putters.

[What equipment are you thinking about?]

I completely revamped my bag since last fall, 14hdcp senior, with G425 5-U, replacing i500's for more forgiveness. I do carry a G425 5W with my driver (just cut to 44.5"), but I traded my G410 4H-5H-6H for G425 7 and 9 fairways. Years ago I had a seven heaven & divine nine, and loved them. Thought I'd turn the clock back and try them again. These clubs have so many setting on the hosel, that it will take a while to see which settings work best to fill in the gaps.

[What equipment are you thinking about?]

On 3/6/2023 at 7:29 PM, cksurfdude said:

Thinking about, actually, getting rid of a putter... After that initial honeymoon period just not really loving my Edel anymore... May be listing it in B/S/T soon.

May sell my Scotty Cameron 11.5 which I bought last winter. Not happy. Ben trying an Odyssey Eleven S with zero aiming on top, and love the feel and sound from the White Hot insert. Will be in the bag this week.

[Lie angles with irons and wedges]

I'm a certified fitter. You are fit to your swing.  If it changes get re-fit and have your angles changed. Your height is a factor in fitting.  If under 5'10" you may need a flatter lie than if over 6'. Shaft length is also determined.  If you hit right an upright angle moves the ball left, where a flat lie moves it right...all depending on the degree. Again,  change the swing requires a re-fit.

[Arccos User Group]

6 hours ago, HDTVMAN said:

I've tried Arccos several times with Cobra & Ping and it doesn't work! Waste of money. Where I fit it was also sold and I discouraged the sale to customers. I spoke to Arccos at a PGA show and they admitted issues. Save your money. 

Sensors didn't work, aftermarket sensors fell off the grips, many android phones not compatible (which they don't tell you)...just a waste of money! You know distance and direction of your sots by just looking at them and measuring easily on the course.

[Arccos User Group]

I've tried Arccos several times with Cobra & Ping and it doesn't work! Waste of money. Where I fit it was also sold and I discouraged the sale to customers. I spoke to Arccos at a PGA show and they admitted issues. Save your money. 

[Blade, Mid-Mallet, Large Mallet Putter - Which is for You?]

I've had virtually every brand, but never been happy with blades. I am currently using a Cameron 11.5 Phantom X, but my stand by's are Odyssey Rossie White Hot and a Dual Force Rossie Blade (pre-Callaway).

[2023 Callaway PARADYM Driver Launch]

MARKETING-MARKETING-MARKETING...Callaway is the KING of Marketing! So the driver and irons you bought last year for thousands are JUNK and you need to buy these new super duper never before built clubs. They will give to 10-20 Yards??? Well, maybe 1-2 yards more, OR LESS! So I have a bridge to sell cheap which spans San Francisco Bay. Been to Callaway, as well as other manufacturers in SO CA & Phoenix, and certified to fit. Callaway makes good clubs, no better than any other, but they are the King of Marketing! Don't believe everything you see or hear. Don't waste you money. New clubs every 4-5 years is fine.

[Used Golf Balls…Thumbs up or down?]

Absolutely NOT! ProV1 practice are fine, as they are shipped by Titleist, but used balls could have been underwater for a long period of time. Better to buy a new dozen of inexpensive balls, or hit what you find in the woods.

[How many rounds do you manage using the same ball?]

LOL! I'm lucky if I find the first ball I hit off the tee. The topic should be how many balls do you use in one round! My answer...2-5. I also quit marking my ball. If it goes thru a window, I don't want CSI tracking me down!!!

[What equipment are you thinking about?]

Just purchased a set of Ping G425 irons to replace my Ping i500's. I've had the i500's 5 seasons, and as I get a bit older, I feel I need clubs with more forgiveness. My i500's were Power-Spec and debating about sending the G425's to Ping to strengthen the lofts. I need all the help I can get!

[What’s Your Go To Golf Tee?]

I prefer the longer thick plastic tees, but they're not cheap and I lose them too often. I'll stay with longer wood tees.

[PXG M16 Putter Shaft]

Update...Tried the PXG Battle Ready Bat Attack with the M16 shaft. Heaviest putter ever! Just way too heavy.

[Recoil v Steelfiber v MMT iron shafts?]

I have been playing and fitting customers with Recoil's for years. I am currently hitting Recoil SmacWraps, and I love UST products. However, try all major brands when you are fit and see what's best for you.

[PXG M16 Putter Shaft]

Has anyone used PGX's new M16 putter shaft, and if so, your opinions.

[What do you use for impact location?]

Foot Spray.

[Big Name Fitters Don't Want Customers Who Don't Want Aftermarket Shafts?]

The big fitting companies, not big box stores, make their money on shafts you've never heard of. They are aftermarket, but not necessarily the "real" models from the manufacturers. Many are no better than the stock offerings, but an extra $300-$500 in the fitters pocket. My suggestion is to go to a PGA Pro at a golf shop or private course, and tell him what you'd like to buy and if he can assist you. At a big box store, where I worked, there is ZERO training, and I went to California & Arizona on my own $$$ to learn to fit. Most of those employees are told by the manager to sell sell sell, and move to the next customer. See a PGA Pro.

[Putter Fitting: I Need Some Convincing!]

Many putters do skid which is why I prefer real grass greens to synthetic. Another point...according to Callaway fitters at the Performance Center in Carlsbad, if you are off on your line by 2 degrees, you will miss the putt. A week before I was there a Callaway Champions Tour pro went thru the fitting center and was 3.5 degrees off. When he left he was .5 degrees off. They showed me his computer specs before and after and it was amazing that not only was his putter slightly off, his stance was too. If your aim is off, you're toast on the green. 

[Putter Fitting: I Need Some Convincing!]

Excellent points. Our store sells thousands of putters/year, new and used, SAM is available for $50, but only a tiny percentage wants that actual fitting. But I can take an hour with a customer to help him decide which putter is best. Looking at his arc, trying putters of all arcs, weights, lengths, grips, it can be done. We can check up to 20' putts, but I concentrate on 6'. Amazing on how many 6' putts the pros miss! But one thing is in common with every putt...it's straight! And I want to see which putter gives that straight putt consistency. Lofts and lies are standard on most stock putters, but I have a master builder who can make adjustments, but that rarely happens. Drives me nuts when a person wants to buy a putter as a gift! I always recommend a gift card. I've been thru fittings with 6 manufacturers, so maybe I'm more aware of what to watch for, but I feel a buyer can do it if they take the time at a good pro shop, try many different putters on the green, and ask a fitter at that location for assistance.