Willie T

Long Term FINAL Review 4/22/24
EVENROLL EV11 Review
My final review is a bit later than the others, which is not untypical for a Moderator review as we like at least one review of the bunch to be a longer term review the 4 to 5 weeks given by the members.  That said, wow what a great job by all the testers in this testing.   A lot has been posted with the tech and data.
This putter after the initial 4-week run has been in and out of my bag over the last 8 months. I have some of that myself, maybe in a slightly different way, but it will illustrate the performance on course and on EX Putt which those of you familiar with that, know it is not only a great practice and play device for putting but gives some good data on your putting specs.
First Impressions 20 of 20
But First I wanted to chime in on the first impressions. Nothing to not like here on looks or first impression.
I decided on the 11 as it was like a shape that I’ve had success within the past in a couple versions of the TM Spyder. 
But currently I have gone hybrid if you will, not full mallet and not blade, I’ve been gaming a Scotty Cameron Flowback 5.5.  I really felt so comfortable with it from the first few putts I got to try when the Rep was here showing the line.  I’ve had a few other putters come and go for a short stint in the bag but nothing has been able to unseat it yet.
I was very pleased at the look of it out of the box. I chose the gravity grip, and it looks and felt perfect to me from a size standpoint.  The familiar red and black of EVNROLL put me at comfort right away when I first put it down on the course.

As usual with EVNROLL the quality was apparent from the finish to the hosel transition to the head and the alignment of the grip. The open cavity on the bottom serves a technical purposes of weight distribution in increasing the MOI in helping square the face.

And as seen below it can help pick up those 2-foot gimme's if your playing partners are so inclined to do so.

The Numbers 28 of 30
So this is where the gravel meets the road as they say, or more appropriately, ball meets the hole.  I don’t have any arccos or Shotscope data, but I do track all my stats every round on the GHIN app, so I have some pretty good data from my current putter.   Here are some basics from the 2023 season mostly with the Scotty, but as mentioned a few others thrown in.
Putting has always been my strength and while not tour level, these numbers aren’t bad for a 17 handicap.
You can see the numbers didn’t change greatly, but even going up a half stroke isn’t the direction you want to go and the up and down percentage again dropping marginally. 
My 2022 scores wit the Flowbck in play the entire year.

My 2023 Stats with the EVNROLL in Play from July through most of October   If you look closely at the 1,2 and 3 putt percentage.  My 2 and 3 putt numbers were identical.  But my 1 putt percent went up which honestly I think was mostly built early in the year.  As i felt i went through a mid season putting slump:  

 
So how do those stats breakdown on a round to round basis.  I typically don’t have a wide variance in my putting totals, meaning I’m not likely to have the hands of a bricklayer with 40 putts one day and putt like Denny McCarthy the next with 24 or something outrageous.  I’m consistent if anything, typically always coming in that 32 to 34 range on individual rounds which accounts for my stats above.   That said, I think my best during this past year was 28 and worst was one day of 40, and I have no explanation for that.
In addition to the on-course stats, I did several practice sessions on the EX-Putt and on our actual putting green.  The Ex-Putt shots will show you a bit more than the data, but if you look closely on the left of the screen you will see club path and face angle.  I generally have a slight out to in path with the putter, much like my full swing, I guess it’s in my DNA no matter the club.  And like my full swing I tend to close the face well to compensate.  The EVNROLL 11 is pretty face balanced, which I normally prefer a bit of toe hang, but wanting the larger mallet I thought I’d see how I did with this.  As a result, the Ex-Putt Data shows I was not quite as consistent in closing the face as I would normally be. Unfortunately some of the screens were chopped off by my not so excellent framing...ha and the ones that showed a out to in aren't shown but the overall number on EX-Putt show that for me. 

 

 

This shows the results of inside 10 feet not being quite as good as the others. But there was one outlier which was probabl my first putt which Ex Putt can take a stroke or two to get the feel of.

On the Course 7 of 10
This is what it’s all about right, driver for show and putt for dough…Ok, my 2nd and I promise last corny analogy.  Did the putter help my scores on the course.  In short no, but also a quick overall it didn’t hurt them.  When I began the testing, I was a 17.1 handicap, at the end I finished at 17.6.  Some of that increase was due do a few poor putting rounds, but some was also due to a period on course where I could not find the fairway if you held my hand and led me out to it.  But as in all good things, my driving returned then my iron play went south, then it returned, and the putting took a vacation.   We all know how those go.   So the point of it is the putter was solid on the course, nothing that I was going to break over my knee, but also certainly not a miracle worker.
A sampling of the cards below show (we played some starts shotgun, so they aren't perfectly aligned 

 

 

 
 
 

 

 
 
The Good the Bad and the In-between 18 of 20
The Good with this has a few things:
·         First the quality of the build, Evnroll has always put out quality putters and it didn’t stop here, from the graphics, the milling on the face, the paint and just overall quality.
·         Size, I like mallets as I mentioned, and this is up there with the biggest of them, so if you’re a mallet guy, you will like this size and shape.
·         The convenient ball picker up.  Come on admit it, we all get lazy at least a few times during an 18-hole round.   And who hasn’t tried to do the smooth walk by and scoop with a blade style putter only to have it go flying 15 feet in front of you, and you’re chasing down like a runaway grocery cart.    No such issues here, just pluck it up with the convenient size COG hole in the sole and be on your way to the next tee.
·         The feel is incredibly soft, I like a soft feeling and sounding putter, and this met that criteria.
The Not so Good:
·         For me the area it lacked in most was 10 feet in and in.  You will see on the one Ex Putt Chart it did great from 10 to 20 feet.  And while that is nice to see, I don’t expect to make those putts.  But from 10 feet and in, I expect/hope to make more than my fair share.   This one was not quite as consistent from that distance, something I saw on the course as well.
·         I’m not so sure I felt any difference with the gravity grip or not, which I believe is a $25 upcharge.

Play It Or Trade It 17 of 20
So I have gone back to my Scotty Flowback as my everyday putter.  But I have taken this out for a few holes when I’m just practicing seeing if anything has changed with it or not.  And it’s just as solid as it was before, but still not consistent enough from that 10-foot range for me to put it in play in league or tournaments.  I think someone who is not as much of an arc swing as me would find this a good fit. As I mentioned I need a bit of toe hang to help me really rotate the face consistently.   I’m convinced it won’t be my last Evnroll putter.  I have on my bucket list to visit it’s HQ when I’m out in Carlsbad next for an in person custom fitting and see what comes out of it.  Their products are just as good build and quality of any other putters in this price range.
 
INTRODUCTION July 2023
 
I’m guessing many of you already know as much about me as you care to.   But for the newcomer, I’ll try not to bore you too much.
My name is Rob, the screen name is a shortened version of CarolinaGolfer2, which was my screen name before becoming a staff member.  
I live in the Baltimore/Annapolis/Washington DC area, kind of in the middle of all three. I live with my Fiancé Michelle we have been tighter for 28 years but don’t have any kids.
By default, I am a Washington football fan, still have a hard time calling them the Commanders, and Nationals and I’m a mild Capitals fan. But I spent many of my after college years in the Chapel Hill/Raleigh area, thus the screen name. The Maryland area is great for golf, we get to play 12 months of the year, even though we may run into a few of snow closings in January or February. 
 By day, I’m the Tournament Sales Director at a 36-hole course in Maryland.  I run over 150 outing a year and it keeps me very busy. But somehow, I have managed to play a fair amount of golf, and demo a few clubs here and there 😊
My experience in the industry has allowed me to take some fantastic trips to most of the major OEM’s and attend the PGA Show just about every year (pre covid) and meet some incredibly smart and wonderful industry people. Pictured Below with an extra 60 pounds vs now, I'm with Josh Talge the Director of Marketing for Titleist and a huge fan of MGS

 
I found the site in a bit different way than others who found it searching reviews of clubs. in 2016, I came across a rather “spirited” twitter exchange between Adam and someone.  I found Adam’s points very strong but very well made and seemed to make sense to me. Prior to that I had only heard of MyGolfSpy as being a rogue site that specialized in putting out leaked or unauthorized photos of new equipment. Just goes to show, you certainly can’t believe everything you read on the internet, especially when it’s a competing website/forum.
So, I looked at the article in question, can’t recall what it was now, but it was typical MGS style, making you not take for granted what the industry has always said.  I noticed the forum tab and jumped over there. I found it to be very friendly, but also very lacking in participation. I mean I read pretty much 4 months’ worth of posts within the first couple hours, and a couple days in, I had read pretty much everything back for several years. You could go an entire day on the forum and see maybe 40 or 50 posts in the entire forum.  My how things have grown and changed.  Thanks to all the great members here!
I was lucky enough to be picked for a test after about two weeks of being a member, I was shocked. It was for the Precision Pro Golf Band. An early version of a GPS watch, although it was more of a Fit Bit style than watch. About 6 months later I was one of the original EVNROLL Testers along with  JLukes  @revkev and @fozcycle, which was a great experience, and really confirmed to me what a great community this was.  Below is a shot of two of my bags after the 2016 EVNROLL testing, yeah, It's not uncommon for me to have two different bags, these happened to have be two of my all time favorite setups

 
I first became a staff member in 2017, I believe and a year later became Co Director of the Forum with @STUDque  Last year, I stepped back from the role due to the workload at my day job and became more of a as needed on call Moderator.  I have stayed on to help with things like the Major Contests or any other special contests/projects.  I have organized the first two official MGS National Outings in 2022 in Maryland and this year in Pinehurst.  We grew from 12 in 2022 to 16 this year, I think.  I’m hoping for a bigger and better one in 2024.
I have said many times over and over, the members here are the best asset we have.  They require very little moderation and allow the staff time to focus on things they want to do to try and make it the best forum in the industry.  I have met many members and made several friends here, I travelled to Ohio to join s small group there for a round of golf and some incredible pizza!  I played with Foz in Florida, and went north of the border to play with Ball Coach Jeff along with Matt from TXG. 
I have tested many clubs for MGS over the years, but when @GolfSpy BOS  told me they needed a moderator spot for this test, he didn’t have to ask me twice. It’s no secret the number of irons and drivers that go in an out of my bag. But putter has remained the most stable. Putting is the absolute strength of my game.  My current Scotty Cameron Special Select 1.5 Flowback, has been in the bag for 2 seasons now.  I will be testing the EV11 against it   I really like the full mallet style and have done well with them in the past.   I’ll be testing the EV11 on course, the putting green, EXPutt to get some stats and possibly Trackman.
And my most up to date bag awaiting the arrival of the EVNROLL EV11
#LetsRoll
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Spent some time on Indi's website last night and this morning.  Have some ideas on which would "fit" but am excited to see how virtual fitting works and if my thoughts align with what the folks at Indi recommend.  

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

Spent some time on Indi's website last night and this morning.  Have some ideas on which would "fit" but am excited to see how virtual fitting works and if my thoughts align with what the folks at Indi recommend.  

Spent some time on Indi's website last night and this morning.  Have some ideas on which would "fit" but am excited to see how virtual fitting works and if my thoughts align with what the folks at Indi recommend.  

Indi Golf Wedges - Forum Review by Willie T
Intro- 
Well hello, MGS Community!  My name is Willie Tyndall (aka @Willie T on the forum pages). I am a newbie to the testing community as I am a first time tester but a member since 2019.  I am excited and thankful to be chosen for this wedge review with the Indi Golf wedges.  But before I get too far into that story let’s set the table so to speak on what brought my journey in golf to this point in time.  I have always been a person who loves the outdoors.  I grew up here in Eastern NC, which meant I had ample time to hunt, fish, play baseball and all the other things a kid of the ‘60s would have enjoyed.  Yes, that means I will be 64 in a couple of weeks!  
So how does a kid who does everything but golf get into the game?  I grew up watching some golf on TV, seeing Trevino, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Norman, Seve’, etc. make their way around the course. Anyone remember the old “Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf” TV series (still watch one now and again on YouTube)   But it was not a game within reach as my parents were not country club folk.  Fast forward to my working career in procurement for a chemical processing facility and the invitation in 2009 to play in a 9-hole Super-Ball team building exercise.  I was to just fill the “D” slot and not much more.  We finish the 9-hole round and my boss along with a couple of others opt to play the front nine.  I was asked if I wanted to join and I thought why not - it was that or either go back to the hotel and be bored.  Mind you, I was almost illiterate when it came to what’s in the bag.  After the first couple of holes, the best player leans over and says, “If you want to play off my tee shot that is okay” as we were playing stroke play..  I tell him that I want to play my tee and he tells me to use the 3 wood as it will get the ball airborne easier (1st lesson).  I am off and running.  At the end of the round, my counterpart from a sister facility looks at me and says, “You’ve learned more in nine holes than most will in a lifetime.”  I opted to "retire" while on top, until 2016...
Fast forward to 2016 and while I remember the round, golf is not a table item as I am into riding motorcycles. 
That changes in June that year as I get hit by a car that results in my left foot being degloved and I wind up as a trans-metatarsal amputee (no toes on the left foot, grafted skin from my left thigh to cover the wound). I tell folks I can only count to fifteen these days.😃  After learning to walk, I need a new hobby and our church men’s group is starting a once a month super-ball scramble.  I'm asked to join and I still have those old “real wood” Spalding woods, MacGregor blades and Spalding putter from the set gifted to me in the late 90’s.  My son and I tag along and the rest is history.  I get the golf bug and pick some newer “used” clubs, this time a full set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots (pat pend).  Likewise I pick a TaylorMade R580 driver and fairway woods and start practicing in earnest, learning to get the weight forward in a way that my rebuilt foot does not hurt too much. It has been a journey of first times, like when I got that first birdie, broke 100, broke 90, got to 80 (still haven’t broken it), had as few as 29 putts, holed out from off the green - several times.  The biggest joy is that my bride of 22 years has joined me from time to time (her game is no where as serious - she will tee off, pick the ball up and then drop on the green to putt out - very simple game that does not need wedges or approach play)...
a 7 yr old grandson who lives to play the game and his dad who is my regular golf partner (Yes, that's him dragging his plastic clubs a 4yrs old as my avatar).

As noted my current game has me bouncing between 13 and 15 handicap.  I have learned the value of up and down for par - hence my wedge game has been a key focus point in my daily drills at home.  That is why I am super stoked about the Indi Golf wedge test! 
The Personal Questions
What region do you play out of?  As noted I live in Eastern, NC and have access to a variety of course conditions from sandy soil to hard pan to mucky sod.  That’s just on the one primary course I play, which is where the majority of my testing will likely happen. 
How long have you been golfing?  Just over six years since I picked up the game to help rehab my foot and to have a way to be outside much like I was when riding bikes.  The rehab was to help teach my body to increase stability in that foot as well. 
What kind of golfer are you?  Pretty well self-taught through countless on-line YouTube videos, getting a couple of impromptu lessons from the course pros, a lot of from works such as Hogan’s Five Lessons to Nicklaus’ Golf My Way to current golf writers. I am an all weather golfer so its a year-round thing (which is pretty well afforded here in Eastern NC) where playing in the cold may mean waiting for the greens to thaw, in the heat (lots of water intake)…it does not matter which means I am looking forward to see how these wedges spin, spin, spin in the varied climate and topography they will see. With a handicap that hovers in the 13-15 range, I “average” around 28% GIR.  This means I do a lot of up-and-down work to try to save par, but also know that bogie is a real possibility.  When it comes to wedges, they are my lifeblood around the green.  I live for moments like this....
The Golf Questions
How do you want to test this product?  In as many and varied situations as possible.  I want to see how these work when there is a carry over a greenside bunker with a short side pin.  How they work when the ground is soggy and the ball is partially plugged (and there are no preferred lies).  When the grass is deeper and we are chopping out.  Of course in the sand - fluffy to supersaturated post rainfall sand….
What are your plans for the review and comparisons?  I will be doing initial testing here at home in my backyard as I have three “pins” set up to where I can hit anywhere from 5 to 35 yd shots in varied grass conditions. This is something I work on several times a week.  Likewise at the course for easy pitches onto the putting green and on course testing - my plan there is to take out several longer clubs and run double wedges (the Indi’s and my current go to, Cleveland CBX’s). 
"Yes, I am a Pirate (ECU that is).  200 years too late.  The cannons don't thunder....." (Jimmy Buffet moment there)   I don’t have ready access to a launch monitor bay, so I will need to be investing in a personal launch monitor over the course of this test to get some spin numbers that are more that just "I think it spins more!".    
What will make this product stay with you after testing?  Accuracy, predictability and playability.  I am looking for wedges that will hit and hold even when the greens are firm.  I want to know that a ½ or ¾ swing with the 54 will land at a given distance day in and day out  (whether its on line or not is a different story (user error?))  IF these can do that, they will be my number 1 wedges for the foreseeable future. Also in the long term, I want to see how they hold up, does the spin go away quickly? 
Why are you excited about testing this product? I love playing what everyone else isn’t.  When I happened onto Rick Shiels review of these wedges (YoutTube link), I thought that would be a cool wedge to try.  So when MGS announced, I put my hat into the ring.  This is my first test for the community and and excited to see if I can shed some light that will help others in their search for the better wedge for their game.  
What do you know about the product already? Only what I saw in Shiels’ video:
They look impressive.  
What are your expectations?  While "To be impressed" and "To be inspired" are pat answers, I am really looking to see if these offer the feel, touch, precision that is needed for wedge play to effectively lower my score by giving better up-and-downs when short of the green, accurate approaches when on 5’s to make GIR, to hit the number consistently.  Oh yes, to see that ball hit past the flag and then 180 back into the cup...yes, gotta make the ball spin!   
Virtual Fitting 
Last Thursday while on a Dairy Queen run with the missus and the grandkids, I get a call from Zane at Indi about doing the virtual fitting.  That was quick as I had sent my completed questionnaire along with a supplemental email to them the evening before.  Good thing - I'm East coast, they're West coast so the 3hr time differential paid off.  We get to talking about my game in a little more detail and I tell him about seeing Shiels' video.  Long story short after a couple of clarifications we come up with the following: 
50deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce w/Recoil F3 Regular 820 graphite shaft and conforming grooves, standard lie.  54deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs same as the 50.   58deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs as the 50 and 54.  As I play composite shafts through the bag (except the putter), we agreed the Recoil shafts would be a good fit.  Told him I really like the Recoils and have a couple of old Eye 2's that are fitted with them.  Hmmmm - maybe an Eye 2 eye comparison as part of the test?  Going to be fun! 
Unboxing/First Impressions 
Today (Aug 2nd) was delivery day....whoo hoo.  Was in the backyard when I saw the truck....

Met the driver in the front yard and with glee took the package as smooth as a wedge gliding under a ball that is riding the fairway carpet....

I have to admit I was slightly disappointed that it was not a guitar case like Rick Shiels got when his arrived, oh well I am not a YouTube celeb....still when I opened the package the clubs were sealed in a singular bag, the heads shrink sealed and covered with bubble wrap.  The goodies included a neat tee shirt, hat, coozie, divot tool....
 
Enough on the goodies, which are kewl.  The clubs themselves are flawless in terms of how they look.  No signs of excess glue from the assembly, the Golf Pride MC4 "midsize" grips are straight and true (and fit pretty well in the old hands as well)...

Dying to try them out as I was curious how they would interact with my swing.  Pulled the shrink off the 54deg and hit a few easy pitches in the backyard.  The first thing I notice is that they are "lighter" in feel than my current wedges - Cleveland CBX's.  It was not what I was expecting as they are very "Vokey" in appearance, so I was anticipated the heft that I tend to associate with them.  It just means they will take a little getting used to.  Speaking of "Vokey", these sit behind the ball in a very "Vokey" manner - inspiring confidence!   
I spent a few moments introducing the old wedges to the new wedges before we (my son and grandson) were off to play a quick 18 today....

So first impressions are that these are really well built wedges that I am going to look forward to testing.  Much more to come, hopefully a few very spinny shots!  Till later, Willie T
FIRST IMPRESSIONS (con’t) 
Indi states they are the “kings of spin” and I can say these clubs scream “we’ll be your spin doctor!”   As one who has never really been a spinner of the ball (talking the kind of spin that sends the ball back down the green on a tear), I am excited to see if they spin to the point that it is a confident stop and check no matter the green conditions.  For comparison, the CBX’s being somewhat worn don’t check and hold so this should be a big differentiator.  We’ll see. 
I do want to spend a moment on the grips, I don’t recall if I specified Mid-size grips or not, but the wedges came with Golf Price MCC4’s.  I have played midsize in the past but had recently been in a standard size grip mode so they will take/took a little getting used to. 
OVERALL Rating (19 of 20) 
Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
For me, looks wise, the clubs exude class from top to bottom!  I love it when clubs are understated and look purposeful.  These wedges deliver that look and then some. 
My initial thoughts were that the full face grooves would be somewhat distracting.  The opposite was/is true as they are actually very pleasing to my eye.  I found that the vertical edge of the grooves (hosel side) made a great reference to help “center” the ball on the face.  I found that I could have the inside edge of the ball along the vertical edge and would be pretty well centered.  
Speaking of the face, it is similar in size to the CBX’s and sits very well behind the ball.   
The wedges each have the same degree of bounce (10 for the FLX S’s) and that makes for a consistent feel across all when engaging the bounce.  It helped in my learning curve on how the wedges would react - as they all bounced the same.  
The sole of the FLX wedges remind me of my old Vokey Design 254-10 Sand Wedge that I still love to hit.  Conversely as seen in the “get to know” wedge pictures of all the wedges you can see the marked difference in the soles of the Cleveland CBX’s and the Indi’s.  
Mine are fitted with Recoil shafts as I play composite shafts in my irons.  An added bonus is that I am already familiar with Recoils as I outfitted a couple of my old Eye2’s with an earlier version and love them.
A pretty club is one thing, but if it sounds harsh, stings like an angry bee on miss hits or refuses to cooperate, it is nothing more than a good corner ornament testimony to what might have been!  What about these Indi wedges? Are they another pretty face or something better like good looks that delivers, kinda like Susan Tedeschi and her mad guitar/vocal skills.  
First swing impressions - the ball pops off the face with a smooth crispness I never had with the CBX’s.  Even slightly off center hits are quite pleasing to the ear.  It is a sound that inspires my new favorite word for these wedges, confidence.  It’s like when you strike the ball, the sound lets you know it’s not a flier but much rather a ball headed to your target point.  
 
You hear that crispness - from the rough, from the fairway, from the sand.  
Overall rating (8 out of 10)
THE NUMBERS (8 out of 10)
I really wanted to get on a Trackman or similar device but the closest place that had one available to “rent” was over an hour and half away (each way) and required a minimum of a month’s membership and you could only book one hour time slots.  As such I did not get any hard numbers on whether Indi wedges more than what the CBX’s do on the machine.  HOWEVER, I did put them through several rounds of side by side comparison of current wedges (old CBX 50-54-58 as well as new CBX 52-56-60 (had literally just updated when I learned I was to be a tester) vs the Indi’s.  So let’s break down my observations: 
Accuracy  - In the course of testing I kept seeing the same thing over and over - consistently accurate!  It did not matter if it was the 50, 54 or 58.  More than once the ball flight looked to be  a certain hole out off the green!  Did not get one, but I got close several times.  The closest I came was when I hit the 54 to 3” of the hole from 30yds out.  Ball checked to 18” past the hole!  A big plus when working on those ups and downs, pretty much my green side game.  Distance - This was a big learning curve as these wedges fly!  I found that I could swing easier, make solid contact and the ball was going to go where I needed it to be except farther.  Most wedge shots are not full swings and I found that these wedges were easy to learn how to swing to get a given distance.  It took practice in the backyard with each wedge to given distances, but after several sessions the distances were dialing in to where I knew a given swing with a given loft gave an accurate distance.  That is that confidence thing again!  Trajectory - Lower overall flight.  I found shot trajectories are more controlled with these over the CBX’s, which are meant to help folks get their wedge shots in the air.  I really love how a simple adjustment of ball placement took the ball from high arching to low and spinny.  And to see the ball really grab on those low ones to release and gently roll out on hard greens, just meant one thing - more confidence. Control and Workability - I am putting these together as after the first day or so, I was seeing that I could flight it low, high, open the face - do whatever with confidence that the ball was going within 95% of where I was planning.  There were the occasional miscues, total operator error, as the clubs can only do what is asked.  I found that these work well in sand without opening the face too much as the clubs inspired me to just hit the ball.  Best example - par 3 12 at my home course I am in the greenside bunker.  Set up with the 54 and figure I want to carry about 5 yds onto the green and let it release to the flag.  Ball comes out, about 3’ high and spinning up a storm.  It lands, checks and rolls to 3’ from the hole for an easy par.   One thing I have not noted was that I used the same ball through the main portions of the test, i.e. Pro V-1.  I did do a few holes with others (Callaway Super Soft, Maxfli Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, WIlson Duo Soft, Bridgestone e12, etc.), and found that the clubs worked well with those as well.  
Overall rating  (8  out of 10)
ON-COURSE  (17 out of 20)
With a total of 10 rounds including several where I focused on side by side comparisons with the CBX’s and one where I had just the wedges, a 7i, 5i and 5w plus almost daily workouts in the backyard, I developed a comfort with these wedges to where they became more and more predictable day in day out.  In the vlog I did,
I talk about what I am seeing and how the wedges are working.  
Varied Lies drill: I played these from tight lies (can you say almost hard pan), hard pan, fairway fluff, slight rough (2”), fluff sand and wet sand, wet early morning grass and mud!  How did they perform in the given lies?  From the tightest of lies, hard pan, the club picked the ball and sent it on its way.  At the opposite end, the rough posed no real problems as the club would slice through and free the ball.  Fairway lies were a dream.  To push the clubs, I even tried to figure ways to hit from awkward spots like the side of a pond in tall weeds and gravelly soil (insert photo).   That is not to say every shot was good or great, there were some bad shots.  However it was always “operator error” from me overthinking and not being confident in the process.   Stripped down bag drill:  The round with the 5w, 5i, 7i and Indi wedges proved that you don’t need a full bag to shoot a decent round.  The 50 worked well on the longer approaches while the 54 and 58 took care of greenside.   No GIRs drill:  The toughest test was playing to not have any GIR, even hitting par 3’s short.  This put a wedge in play on all 18 holes.   A hard test that went against scoring low but also built confidence in each club that proved that you can rely on these clubs on getting up and down when you do miss a green in regulation.    3 Wedge drill: This was one of the early tests.  I set up the bag with 3 sets of wedges (CBX - 50, 54, 58 (old - no sharpie dot), CBX - 52, 56, 60 (newer - red sharpie  dot), INDI - 50, 54-58 (green sharpie dot).  All had new ProV1's assigned (5 w/red dots, 5 w/green dots and 5 plain).  The drill was simple - if it was greenside up and down, I would hit five shots each with the 58's & 60 and eval proximity to hole (target),  longer wedge in would be the 50's & 52 - same goal, at the beach - the 54's & 56.  End result - the INDI's were the most accurate as they checked and stopped more readily, followed by the new CBX's (which did not hold as well as the INDI's) and lastly the old familiar CBX's that had substantially more roll out (which I had grown to accept and had learned to hit and allow for such).  THIS IS DEFINITELY A SLOW COURSE TIME DRILL!   The big downside in my testing was getting used to the turf interaction as opposed to how the CBX's had performed. I that in the first few holes where I was playing both the CBX’s and the Indi’s, the same angle of attack made for some chunky Indi’s. Yet, once I spent time just working on feeling the bounce the chunky monkey beaver tails went away.  While my overall scores remained consistent, I attribute much of that to the deliberate placing of myself in precarious shots that do not lend to better scores.  I wanted to work on being in trouble, not GIR - the things the average Joe or Jen golfer sees.  These wedges inspire you to take on those situations and do well! 
INDI Golf is one of the new kids in town and I was delighted to be part of this test.  As a newbie tester with a set of virtually fitted wedges, the guys at INDI did well.  So much so, I am seriously considering trying one of their putters this time on my dime.  I  love that companies such as INDI are making quality gear that allows the golfer who is not necessarily brand fixated have access to quality gear at competitive pricing.  I will be curious to see what INDI does next - will they go grind crazy like the big guys or stick to their model.  I want to reinforce my thoughts that I love the full face grooves, the simplified sole design, great shaft options - those may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it provides a smooth brew for this golfer!  
Overall rating (17 out of 20)
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18 out of 20)
The good starts with how I keep saying “confidence” or a derivative of that word, but that is what I want to write home and tell everyone about in these wedges.  In the course of testing I went from these are fun to I want to go pin hunting when wedging in!   I go back to the wedges all having the same sole design and bounce to promote consistency across the group.  I am reminded that this concept is something one may see with one length irons.  Anyway, they really work for me in this area. This led me to seeing a predictable consistency in shot shape, distance and overall accuracy.  It became a matter of what is the distance to the pin, okay that is ___ wedge.  ½, ¾ shots were super predictable as well.  I found the wedges very balanced almost to where I could not feel the head weight when swining. Others in the test noted the opposite that the clubs felt heavy. Its a matter of what your used to.     
The inbetween probably lies in two areas.  How much will spin decrease and will it be a rapid drop off or a slight taper over time.  This remains to be seen.  The second is purely overall aesthics, while I love them, I am thinking some may be put off by the lack of glitz and glamor or more importantly big name notoriety,  as they look like something that one might see at a box store.
The only bad that I could see is the "lack of grind options".  While these are two grind deal, one can easliy adjust their game and have good success.  The FLX grind really is a do all workhorse.  Grantled I was used to the CBX’s and their grind, very similar to the ATK’s, I believe INDI onto being wonderfully simple - pickers (small divots) just need to go FLX, digging for dollars divots just go ATK. 
Overall rating (18 out of 20)
PLAY IT or TRADE IT (20 out of 20)
Play - play - play.  These wedges offer a level of comfort and confidence that I have never really enjoyed with other wedges, the closest being the old Vokey Design 254-10.   Given that I am looking forward to seeing how they do this winter as I play year round here in Eastern NC.  It will be good to report on how wedge life happens when the elements are less than optimal.  
Overall rating (20 out of 20)
CONCLUSION
Again I want to thank the MGS mods for selecting me to be part of this test.  To be a newbie who gets to test these wedges was an honor and privilege.  My overall consensus of the INDI wedges is that they do deliver the spin to stop the ball on the green, they cut through the rough like a sling blade to lift the ball to freedom and are perfect to deliver balls from the beach!   For someone looking for a great wedge that is not flashy, that doesn’t bury you in a myriad of sole grinds, that is super reasonable in cost - the guys at INDI can be that one stop shop.  
FINAL SCORE (90 out of a 100)
 
 

Indi Golf Wedges - Forum Review by Willie T
Intro- 
Well hello, MGS Community!  My name is Willie Tyndall (aka @Willie T on the forum pages). I am a newbie to the testing community as I am a first time tester but a member since 2019.  I am excited and thankful to be chosen for this wedge review with the Indi Golf wedges.  But before I get too far into that story let’s set the table so to speak on what brought my journey in golf to this point in time.  I have always been a person who loves the outdoors.  I grew up here in Eastern NC, which meant I had ample time to hunt, fish, play baseball and all the other things a kid of the ‘60s would have enjoyed.  Yes, that means I will be 64 in a couple of weeks!  
So how does a kid who does everything but golf get into the game?  I grew up watching some golf on TV, seeing Trevino, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Norman, Seve’, etc. make their way around the course. Anyone remember the old “Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf” TV series (still watch one now and again on YouTube)   But it was not a game within reach as my parents were not country club folk.  Fast forward to my working career in procurement for a chemical processing facility and the invitation in 2009 to play in a 9-hole Super-Ball team building exercise.  I was to just fill the “D” slot and not much more.  We finish the 9-hole round and my boss along with a couple of others opt to play the front nine.  I was asked if I wanted to join and I thought why not - it was that or either go back to the hotel and be bored.  Mind you, I was almost illiterate when it came to what’s in the bag.  After the first couple of holes, the best player leans over and says, “If you want to play off my tee shot that is okay” as we were playing stroke play..  I tell him that I want to play my tee and he tells me to use the 3 wood as it will get the ball airborne easier (1st lesson).  I am off and running.  At the end of the round, my counterpart from a sister facility looks at me and says, “You’ve learned more in nine holes than most will in a lifetime.”  I opted to "retire" while on top, until 2016...
Fast forward to 2016 and while I remember the round, golf is not a table item as I am into riding motorcycles. 
That changes in June that year as I get hit by a car that results in my left foot being degloved and I wind up as a trans-metatarsal amputee (no toes on the left foot, grafted skin from my left thigh to cover the wound). I tell folks I can only count to fifteen these days.😃  After learning to walk, I need a new hobby and our church men’s group is starting a once a month super-ball scramble.  I'm asked to join and I still have those old “real wood” Spalding woods, MacGregor blades and Spalding putter from the set gifted to me in the late 90’s.  My son and I tag along and the rest is history.  I get the golf bug and pick some newer “used” clubs, this time a full set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots (pat pend).  Likewise I pick a TaylorMade R580 driver and fairway woods and start practicing in earnest, learning to get the weight forward in a way that my rebuilt foot does not hurt too much. It has been a journey of first times, like when I got that first birdie, broke 100, broke 90, got to 80 (still haven’t broken it), had as few as 29 putts, holed out from off the green - several times.  The biggest joy is that my bride of 22 years has joined me from time to time (her game is no where as serious - she will tee off, pick the ball up and then drop on the green to putt out - very simple game that does not need wedges or approach play)...
a 7 yr old grandson who lives to play the game and his dad who is my regular golf partner (Yes, that's him dragging his plastic clubs a 4yrs old as my avatar).

As noted my current game has me bouncing between 13 and 15 handicap.  I have learned the value of up and down for par - hence my wedge game has been a key focus point in my daily drills at home.  That is why I am super stoked about the Indi Golf wedge test! 
The Personal Questions
What region do you play out of?  As noted I live in Eastern, NC and have access to a variety of course conditions from sandy soil to hard pan to mucky sod.  That’s just on the one primary course I play, which is where the majority of my testing will likely happen. 
How long have you been golfing?  Just over six years since I picked up the game to help rehab my foot and to have a way to be outside much like I was when riding bikes.  The rehab was to help teach my body to increase stability in that foot as well. 
What kind of golfer are you?  Pretty well self-taught through countless on-line YouTube videos, getting a couple of impromptu lessons from the course pros, a lot of from works such as Hogan’s Five Lessons to Nicklaus’ Golf My Way to current golf writers. I am an all weather golfer so its a year-round thing (which is pretty well afforded here in Eastern NC) where playing in the cold may mean waiting for the greens to thaw, in the heat (lots of water intake)…it does not matter which means I am looking forward to see how these wedges spin, spin, spin in the varied climate and topography they will see. With a handicap that hovers in the 13-15 range, I “average” around 28% GIR.  This means I do a lot of up-and-down work to try to save par, but also know that bogie is a real possibility.  When it comes to wedges, they are my lifeblood around the green.  I live for moments like this....
The Golf Questions
How do you want to test this product?  In as many and varied situations as possible.  I want to see how these work when there is a carry over a greenside bunker with a short side pin.  How they work when the ground is soggy and the ball is partially plugged (and there are no preferred lies).  When the grass is deeper and we are chopping out.  Of course in the sand - fluffy to supersaturated post rainfall sand….
What are your plans for the review and comparisons?  I will be doing initial testing here at home in my backyard as I have three “pins” set up to where I can hit anywhere from 5 to 35 yd shots in varied grass conditions. This is something I work on several times a week.  Likewise at the course for easy pitches onto the putting green and on course testing - my plan there is to take out several longer clubs and run double wedges (the Indi’s and my current go to, Cleveland CBX’s). 
"Yes, I am a Pirate (ECU that is).  200 years too late.  The cannons don't thunder....." (Jimmy Buffet moment there)   I don’t have ready access to a launch monitor bay, so I will need to be investing in a personal launch monitor over the course of this test to get some spin numbers that are more that just "I think it spins more!".    
What will make this product stay with you after testing?  Accuracy, predictability and playability.  I am looking for wedges that will hit and hold even when the greens are firm.  I want to know that a ½ or ¾ swing with the 54 will land at a given distance day in and day out  (whether its on line or not is a different story (user error?))  IF these can do that, they will be my number 1 wedges for the foreseeable future. Also in the long term, I want to see how they hold up, does the spin go away quickly? 
Why are you excited about testing this product? I love playing what everyone else isn’t.  When I happened onto Rick Shiels review of these wedges (YoutTube link), I thought that would be a cool wedge to try.  So when MGS announced, I put my hat into the ring.  This is my first test for the community and and excited to see if I can shed some light that will help others in their search for the better wedge for their game.  
What do you know about the product already? Only what I saw in Shiels’ video:
They look impressive.  
What are your expectations?  While "To be impressed" and "To be inspired" are pat answers, I am really looking to see if these offer the feel, touch, precision that is needed for wedge play to effectively lower my score by giving better up-and-downs when short of the green, accurate approaches when on 5’s to make GIR, to hit the number consistently.  Oh yes, to see that ball hit past the flag and then 180 back into the cup...yes, gotta make the ball spin!   
Virtual Fitting 
Last Thursday while on a Dairy Queen run with the missus and the grandkids, I get a call from Zane at Indi about doing the virtual fitting.  That was quick as I had sent my completed questionnaire along with a supplemental email to them the evening before.  Good thing - I'm East coast, they're West coast so the 3hr time differential paid off.  We get to talking about my game in a little more detail and I tell him about seeing Shiels' video.  Long story short after a couple of clarifications we come up with the following: 
50deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce w/Recoil F3 Regular 820 graphite shaft and conforming grooves, standard lie.  54deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs same as the 50.   58deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs as the 50 and 54.  As I play composite shafts through the bag (except the putter), we agreed the Recoil shafts would be a good fit.  Told him I really like the Recoils and have a couple of old Eye 2's that are fitted with them.  Hmmmm - maybe an Eye 2 eye comparison as part of the test?  Going to be fun! 
Unboxing/First Impressions 
Today (Aug 2nd) was delivery day....whoo hoo.  Was in the backyard when I saw the truck....

Met the driver in the front yard and with glee took the package as smooth as a wedge gliding under a ball that is riding the fairway carpet....

I have to admit I was slightly disappointed that it was not a guitar case like Rick Shiels got when his arrived, oh well I am not a YouTube celeb....still when I opened the package the clubs were sealed in a singular bag, the heads shrink sealed and covered with bubble wrap.  The goodies included a neat tee shirt, hat, coozie, divot tool....
 
Enough on the goodies, which are kewl.  The clubs themselves are flawless in terms of how they look.  No signs of excess glue from the assembly, the Golf Pride MC4 "midsize" grips are straight and true (and fit pretty well in the old hands as well)...

Dying to try them out as I was curious how they would interact with my swing.  Pulled the shrink off the 54deg and hit a few easy pitches in the backyard.  The first thing I notice is that they are "lighter" in feel than my current wedges - Cleveland CBX's.  It was not what I was expecting as they are very "Vokey" in appearance, so I was anticipated the heft that I tend to associate with them.  It just means they will take a little getting used to.  Speaking of "Vokey", these sit behind the ball in a very "Vokey" manner - inspiring confidence!   
I spent a few moments introducing the old wedges to the new wedges before we (my son and grandson) were off to play a quick 18 today....

So first impressions are that these are really well built wedges that I am going to look forward to testing.  Much more to come, hopefully a few very spinny shots!  Till later, Willie T
FIRST IMPRESSIONS (con’t) 
Indi states they are the “kings of spin” and I can say these clubs scream “we’ll be your spin doctor!”   As one who has never really been a spinner of the ball (talking the kind of spin that sends the ball back down the green on a tear), I am excited to see if they spin to the point that it is a confident stop and check no matter the green conditions.  For comparison, the CBX’s being somewhat worn don’t check and hold so this should be a big differentiator.  We’ll see. 
I do want to spend a moment on the grips, I don’t recall if I specified Mid-size grips or not, but the wedges came with Golf Price MCC4’s.  I have played midsize in the past but had recently been in a standard size grip mode so they will take/took a little getting used to. 
OVERALL Rating (19 of 20) 
Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
For me, looks wise, the clubs exude class from top to bottom!  I love it when clubs are understated and look purposeful.  These wedges deliver that look and then some. 
My initial thoughts were that the full face grooves would be somewhat distracting.  The opposite was/is true as they are actually very pleasing to my eye.  I found that the vertical edge of the grooves (hosel side) made a great reference to help “center” the ball on the face.  I found that I could have the inside edge of the ball along the vertical edge and would be pretty well centered.  
Speaking of the face, it is similar in size to the CBX’s and sits very well behind the ball.   
The wedges each have the same degree of bounce (10 for the FLX S’s) and that makes for a consistent feel across all when engaging the bounce.  It helped in my learning curve on how the wedges would react - as they all bounced the same.  
The sole of the FLX wedges remind me of my old Vokey Design 254-10 Sand Wedge that I still love to hit.  Conversely as seen in the “get to know” wedge pictures of all the wedges you can see the marked difference in the soles of the Cleveland CBX’s and the Indi’s.  
Mine are fitted with Recoil shafts as I play composite shafts in my irons.  An added bonus is that I am already familiar with Recoils as I outfitted a couple of my old Eye2’s with an earlier version and love them.
A pretty club is one thing, but if it sounds harsh, stings like an angry bee on miss hits or refuses to cooperate, it is nothing more than a good corner ornament testimony to what might have been!  What about these Indi wedges? Are they another pretty face or something better like good looks that delivers, kinda like Susan Tedeschi and her mad guitar/vocal skills.  
First swing impressions - the ball pops off the face with a smooth crispness I never had with the CBX’s.  Even slightly off center hits are quite pleasing to the ear.  It is a sound that inspires my new favorite word for these wedges, confidence.  It’s like when you strike the ball, the sound lets you know it’s not a flier but much rather a ball headed to your target point.  
 
You hear that crispness - from the rough, from the fairway, from the sand.  
Overall rating (8 out of 10)
THE NUMBERS (8 out of 10)
I really wanted to get on a Trackman or similar device but the closest place that had one available to “rent” was over an hour and half away (each way) and required a minimum of a month’s membership and you could only book one hour time slots.  As such I did not get any hard numbers on whether Indi wedges more than what the CBX’s do on the machine.  HOWEVER, I did put them through several rounds of side by side comparison of current wedges (old CBX 50-54-58 as well as new CBX 52-56-60 (had literally just updated when I learned I was to be a tester) vs the Indi’s.  So let’s break down my observations: 
Accuracy  - In the course of testing I kept seeing the same thing over and over - consistently accurate!  It did not matter if it was the 50, 54 or 58.  More than once the ball flight looked to be  a certain hole out off the green!  Did not get one, but I got close several times.  The closest I came was when I hit the 54 to 3” of the hole from 30yds out.  Ball checked to 18” past the hole!  A big plus when working on those ups and downs, pretty much my green side game.  Distance - This was a big learning curve as these wedges fly!  I found that I could swing easier, make solid contact and the ball was going to go where I needed it to be except farther.  Most wedge shots are not full swings and I found that these wedges were easy to learn how to swing to get a given distance.  It took practice in the backyard with each wedge to given distances, but after several sessions the distances were dialing in to where I knew a given swing with a given loft gave an accurate distance.  That is that confidence thing again!  Trajectory - Lower overall flight.  I found shot trajectories are more controlled with these over the CBX’s, which are meant to help folks get their wedge shots in the air.  I really love how a simple adjustment of ball placement took the ball from high arching to low and spinny.  And to see the ball really grab on those low ones to release and gently roll out on hard greens, just meant one thing - more confidence. Control and Workability - I am putting these together as after the first day or so, I was seeing that I could flight it low, high, open the face - do whatever with confidence that the ball was going within 95% of where I was planning.  There were the occasional miscues, total operator error, as the clubs can only do what is asked.  I found that these work well in sand without opening the face too much as the clubs inspired me to just hit the ball.  Best example - par 3 12 at my home course I am in the greenside bunker.  Set up with the 54 and figure I want to carry about 5 yds onto the green and let it release to the flag.  Ball comes out, about 3’ high and spinning up a storm.  It lands, checks and rolls to 3’ from the hole for an easy par.   One thing I have not noted was that I used the same ball through the main portions of the test, i.e. Pro V-1.  I did do a few holes with others (Callaway Super Soft, Maxfli Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, WIlson Duo Soft, Bridgestone e12, etc.), and found that the clubs worked well with those as well.  
Overall rating  (8  out of 10)
ON-COURSE  (17 out of 20)
With a total of 10 rounds including several where I focused on side by side comparisons with the CBX’s and one where I had just the wedges, a 7i, 5i and 5w plus almost daily workouts in the backyard, I developed a comfort with these wedges to where they became more and more predictable day in day out.  In the vlog I did,
I talk about what I am seeing and how the wedges are working.  
Varied Lies drill: I played these from tight lies (can you say almost hard pan), hard pan, fairway fluff, slight rough (2”), fluff sand and wet sand, wet early morning grass and mud!  How did they perform in the given lies?  From the tightest of lies, hard pan, the club picked the ball and sent it on its way.  At the opposite end, the rough posed no real problems as the club would slice through and free the ball.  Fairway lies were a dream.  To push the clubs, I even tried to figure ways to hit from awkward spots like the side of a pond in tall weeds and gravelly soil (insert photo).   That is not to say every shot was good or great, there were some bad shots.  However it was always “operator error” from me overthinking and not being confident in the process.   Stripped down bag drill:  The round with the 5w, 5i, 7i and Indi wedges proved that you don’t need a full bag to shoot a decent round.  The 50 worked well on the longer approaches while the 54 and 58 took care of greenside.   No GIRs drill:  The toughest test was playing to not have any GIR, even hitting par 3’s short.  This put a wedge in play on all 18 holes.   A hard test that went against scoring low but also built confidence in each club that proved that you can rely on these clubs on getting up and down when you do miss a green in regulation.    3 Wedge drill: This was one of the early tests.  I set up the bag with 3 sets of wedges (CBX - 50, 54, 58 (old - no sharpie dot), CBX - 52, 56, 60 (newer - red sharpie  dot), INDI - 50, 54-58 (green sharpie dot).  All had new ProV1's assigned (5 w/red dots, 5 w/green dots and 5 plain).  The drill was simple - if it was greenside up and down, I would hit five shots each with the 58's & 60 and eval proximity to hole (target),  longer wedge in would be the 50's & 52 - same goal, at the beach - the 54's & 56.  End result - the INDI's were the most accurate as they checked and stopped more readily, followed by the new CBX's (which did not hold as well as the INDI's) and lastly the old familiar CBX's that had substantially more roll out (which I had grown to accept and had learned to hit and allow for such).  THIS IS DEFINITELY A SLOW COURSE TIME DRILL!   The big downside in my testing was getting used to the turf interaction as opposed to how the CBX's had performed. I that in the first few holes where I was playing both the CBX’s and the Indi’s, the same angle of attack made for some chunky Indi’s. Yet, once I spent time just working on feeling the bounce the chunky monkey beaver tails went away.  While my overall scores remained consistent, I attribute much of that to the deliberate placing of myself in precarious shots that do not lend to better scores.  I wanted to work on being in trouble, not GIR - the things the average Joe or Jen golfer sees.  These wedges inspire you to take on those situations and do well! 
INDI Golf is one of the new kids in town and I was delighted to be part of this test.  As a newbie tester with a set of virtually fitted wedges, the guys at INDI did well.  So much so, I am seriously considering trying one of their putters this time on my dime.  I  love that companies such as INDI are making quality gear that allows the golfer who is not necessarily brand fixated have access to quality gear at competitive pricing.  I will be curious to see what INDI does next - will they go grind crazy like the big guys or stick to their model.  I want to reinforce my thoughts that I love the full face grooves, the simplified sole design, great shaft options - those may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it provides a smooth brew for this golfer!  
Overall rating (17 out of 20)
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18 out of 20)
The good starts with how I keep saying “confidence” or a derivative of that word, but that is what I want to write home and tell everyone about in these wedges.  In the course of testing I went from these are fun to I want to go pin hunting when wedging in!   I go back to the wedges all having the same sole design and bounce to promote consistency across the group.  I am reminded that this concept is something one may see with one length irons.  Anyway, they really work for me in this area. This led me to seeing a predictable consistency in shot shape, distance and overall accuracy.  It became a matter of what is the distance to the pin, okay that is ___ wedge.  ½, ¾ shots were super predictable as well.  I found the wedges very balanced almost to where I could not feel the head weight when swining. Others in the test noted the opposite that the clubs felt heavy. Its a matter of what your used to.     
The inbetween probably lies in two areas.  How much will spin decrease and will it be a rapid drop off or a slight taper over time.  This remains to be seen.  The second is purely overall aesthics, while I love them, I am thinking some may be put off by the lack of glitz and glamor or more importantly big name notoriety,  as they look like something that one might see at a box store.
The only bad that I could see is the "lack of grind options".  While these are two grind deal, one can easliy adjust their game and have good success.  The FLX grind really is a do all workhorse.  Grantled I was used to the CBX’s and their grind, very similar to the ATK’s, I believe INDI onto being wonderfully simple - pickers (small divots) just need to go FLX, digging for dollars divots just go ATK. 
Overall rating (18 out of 20)
PLAY IT or TRADE IT (20 out of 20)
Play - play - play.  These wedges offer a level of comfort and confidence that I have never really enjoyed with other wedges, the closest being the old Vokey Design 254-10.   Given that I am looking forward to seeing how they do this winter as I play year round here in Eastern NC.  It will be good to report on how wedge life happens when the elements are less than optimal.  
Overall rating (20 out of 20)
CONCLUSION
Again I want to thank the MGS mods for selecting me to be part of this test.  To be a newbie who gets to test these wedges was an honor and privilege.  My overall consensus of the INDI wedges is that they do deliver the spin to stop the ball on the green, they cut through the rough like a sling blade to lift the ball to freedom and are perfect to deliver balls from the beach!   For someone looking for a great wedge that is not flashy, that doesn’t bury you in a myriad of sole grinds, that is super reasonable in cost - the guys at INDI can be that one stop shop.  
FINAL SCORE (90 out of a 100)
 
 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

Indi Golf Wedges - Forum Review by Willie T
Intro- 
Well hello, MGS Community!  My name is Willie Tyndall (aka @Willie T on the forum pages). I am a newbie to the testing community as I am a first time tester but a member since 2019.  I am excited and thankful to be chosen for this wedge review with the Indi Golf wedges.  But before I get too far into that story let’s set the table so to speak on what brought my journey in golf to this point in time.  I have always been a person who loves the outdoors.  I grew up here in Eastern NC, which meant I had ample time to hunt, fish, play baseball and all the other things a kid of the ‘60s would have enjoyed.  Yes, that means I will be 64 in a couple of weeks!  
So how does a kid who does everything but golf get into the game?  I grew up watching some golf on TV, seeing Trevino, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Norman, Seve’, etc. make their way around the course. Anyone remember the old “Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf” TV series (still watch one now and again on YouTube)   But it was not a game within reach as my parents were not country club folk.  Fast forward to my working career in procurement for a chemical processing facility and the invitation in 2009 to play in a 9-hole Super-Ball team building exercise.  I was to just fill the “D” slot and not much more.  We finish the 9-hole round and my boss along with a couple of others opt to play the front nine.  I was asked if I wanted to join and I thought why not - it was that or either go back to the hotel and be bored.  Mind you, I was almost illiterate when it came to what’s in the bag.  After the first couple of holes, the best player leans over and says, “If you want to play off my tee shot that is okay” as we were playing stroke play..  I tell him that I want to play my tee and he tells me to use the 3 wood as it will get the ball airborne easier (1st lesson).  I am off and running.  At the end of the round, my counterpart from a sister facility looks at me and says, “You’ve learned more in nine holes than most will in a lifetime.”  I opted to "retire" while on top, until 2016...
Fast forward to 2016 and while I remember the round, golf is not a table item as I am into riding motorcycles. 
That changes in June that year as I get hit by a car that results in my left foot being degloved and I wind up as a trans-metatarsal amputee (no toes on the left foot, grafted skin from my left thigh to cover the wound). I tell folks I can only count to fifteen these days.😃  After learning to walk, I need a new hobby and our church men’s group is starting a once a month super-ball scramble.  I'm asked to join and I still have those old “real wood” Spalding woods, MacGregor blades and Spalding putter from the set gifted to me in the late 90’s.  My son and I tag along and the rest is history.  I get the golf bug and pick some newer “used” clubs, this time a full set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots (pat pend).  Likewise I pick a TaylorMade R580 driver and fairway woods and start practicing in earnest, learning to get the weight forward in a way that my rebuilt foot does not hurt too much. It has been a journey of first times, like when I got that first birdie, broke 100, broke 90, got to 80 (still haven’t broken it), had as few as 29 putts, holed out from off the green - several times.  The biggest joy is that my bride of 22 years has joined me from time to time (her game is no where as serious - she will tee off, pick the ball up and then drop on the green to putt out - very simple game that does not need wedges or approach play)...
a 7 yr old grandson who lives to play the game and his dad who is my regular golf partner (Yes, that's him dragging his plastic clubs a 4yrs old as my avatar).

As noted my current game has me bouncing between 13 and 15 handicap.  I have learned the value of up and down for par - hence my wedge game has been a key focus point in my daily drills at home.  That is why I am super stoked about the Indi Golf wedge test! 
The Personal Questions
What region do you play out of?  As noted I live in Eastern, NC and have access to a variety of course conditions from sandy soil to hard pan to mucky sod.  That’s just on the one primary course I play, which is where the majority of my testing will likely happen. 
How long have you been golfing?  Just over six years since I picked up the game to help rehab my foot and to have a way to be outside much like I was when riding bikes.  The rehab was to help teach my body to increase stability in that foot as well. 
What kind of golfer are you?  Pretty well self-taught through countless on-line YouTube videos, getting a couple of impromptu lessons from the course pros, a lot of from works such as Hogan’s Five Lessons to Nicklaus’ Golf My Way to current golf writers. I am an all weather golfer so its a year-round thing (which is pretty well afforded here in Eastern NC) where playing in the cold may mean waiting for the greens to thaw, in the heat (lots of water intake)…it does not matter which means I am looking forward to see how these wedges spin, spin, spin in the varied climate and topography they will see. With a handicap that hovers in the 13-15 range, I “average” around 28% GIR.  This means I do a lot of up-and-down work to try to save par, but also know that bogie is a real possibility.  When it comes to wedges, they are my lifeblood around the green.  I live for moments like this....
The Golf Questions
How do you want to test this product?  In as many and varied situations as possible.  I want to see how these work when there is a carry over a greenside bunker with a short side pin.  How they work when the ground is soggy and the ball is partially plugged (and there are no preferred lies).  When the grass is deeper and we are chopping out.  Of course in the sand - fluffy to supersaturated post rainfall sand….
What are your plans for the review and comparisons?  I will be doing initial testing here at home in my backyard as I have three “pins” set up to where I can hit anywhere from 5 to 35 yd shots in varied grass conditions. This is something I work on several times a week.  Likewise at the course for easy pitches onto the putting green and on course testing - my plan there is to take out several longer clubs and run double wedges (the Indi’s and my current go to, Cleveland CBX’s). 
"Yes, I am a Pirate (ECU that is).  200 years too late.  The cannons don't thunder....." (Jimmy Buffet moment there)   I don’t have ready access to a launch monitor bay, so I will need to be investing in a personal launch monitor over the course of this test to get some spin numbers that are more that just "I think it spins more!".    
What will make this product stay with you after testing?  Accuracy, predictability and playability.  I am looking for wedges that will hit and hold even when the greens are firm.  I want to know that a ½ or ¾ swing with the 54 will land at a given distance day in and day out  (whether its on line or not is a different story (user error?))  IF these can do that, they will be my number 1 wedges for the foreseeable future. Also in the long term, I want to see how they hold up, does the spin go away quickly? 
Why are you excited about testing this product? I love playing what everyone else isn’t.  When I happened onto Rick Shiels review of these wedges (YoutTube link), I thought that would be a cool wedge to try.  So when MGS announced, I put my hat into the ring.  This is my first test for the community and and excited to see if I can shed some light that will help others in their search for the better wedge for their game.  
What do you know about the product already? Only what I saw in Shiels’ video:
They look impressive.  
What are your expectations?  While "To be impressed" and "To be inspired" are pat answers, I am really looking to see if these offer the feel, touch, precision that is needed for wedge play to effectively lower my score by giving better up-and-downs when short of the green, accurate approaches when on 5’s to make GIR, to hit the number consistently.  Oh yes, to see that ball hit past the flag and then 180 back into the cup...yes, gotta make the ball spin!   
Virtual Fitting 
Last Thursday while on a Dairy Queen run with the missus and the grandkids, I get a call from Zane at Indi about doing the virtual fitting.  That was quick as I had sent my completed questionnaire along with a supplemental email to them the evening before.  Good thing - I'm East coast, they're West coast so the 3hr time differential paid off.  We get to talking about my game in a little more detail and I tell him about seeing Shiels' video.  Long story short after a couple of clarifications we come up with the following: 
50deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce w/Recoil F3 Regular 820 graphite shaft and conforming grooves, standard lie.  54deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs same as the 50.   58deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs as the 50 and 54.  As I play composite shafts through the bag (except the putter), we agreed the Recoil shafts would be a good fit.  Told him I really like the Recoils and have a couple of old Eye 2's that are fitted with them.  Hmmmm - maybe an Eye 2 eye comparison as part of the test?  Going to be fun! 
Unboxing/First Impressions 
Today (Aug 2nd) was delivery day....whoo hoo.  Was in the backyard when I saw the truck....

Met the driver in the front yard and with glee took the package as smooth as a wedge gliding under a ball that is riding the fairway carpet....

I have to admit I was slightly disappointed that it was not a guitar case like Rick Shiels got when his arrived, oh well I am not a YouTube celeb....still when I opened the package the clubs were sealed in a singular bag, the heads shrink sealed and covered with bubble wrap.  The goodies included a neat tee shirt, hat, coozie, divot tool....
 
Enough on the goodies, which are kewl.  The clubs themselves are flawless in terms of how they look.  No signs of excess glue from the assembly, the Golf Pride MC4 "midsize" grips are straight and true (and fit pretty well in the old hands as well)...

Dying to try them out as I was curious how they would interact with my swing.  Pulled the shrink off the 54deg and hit a few easy pitches in the backyard.  The first thing I notice is that they are "lighter" in feel than my current wedges - Cleveland CBX's.  It was not what I was expecting as they are very "Vokey" in appearance, so I was anticipated the heft that I tend to associate with them.  It just means they will take a little getting used to.  Speaking of "Vokey", these sit behind the ball in a very "Vokey" manner - inspiring confidence!   
I spent a few moments introducing the old wedges to the new wedges before we (my son and grandson) were off to play a quick 18 today....

So first impressions are that these are really well built wedges that I am going to look forward to testing.  Much more to come, hopefully a few very spinny shots!  Till later, Willie T
FIRST IMPRESSIONS (con’t) 
Indi states they are the “kings of spin” and I can say these clubs scream “we’ll be your spin doctor!”   As one who has never really been a spinner of the ball (talking the kind of spin that sends the ball back down the green on a tear), I am excited to see if they spin to the point that it is a confident stop and check no matter the green conditions.  For comparison, the CBX’s being somewhat worn don’t check and hold so this should be a big differentiator.  We’ll see. 
I do want to spend a moment on the grips, I don’t recall if I specified Mid-size grips or not, but the wedges came with Golf Price MCC4’s.  I have played midsize in the past but had recently been in a standard size grip mode so they will take/took a little getting used to. 
OVERALL Rating (19 of 20) 
Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
For me, looks wise, the clubs exude class from top to bottom!  I love it when clubs are understated and look purposeful.  These wedges deliver that look and then some. 
My initial thoughts were that the full face grooves would be somewhat distracting.  The opposite was/is true as they are actually very pleasing to my eye.  I found that the vertical edge of the grooves (hosel side) made a great reference to help “center” the ball on the face.  I found that I could have the inside edge of the ball along the vertical edge and would be pretty well centered.  
Speaking of the face, it is similar in size to the CBX’s and sits very well behind the ball.   
The wedges each have the same degree of bounce (10 for the FLX S’s) and that makes for a consistent feel across all when engaging the bounce.  It helped in my learning curve on how the wedges would react - as they all bounced the same.  
The sole of the FLX wedges remind me of my old Vokey Design 254-10 Sand Wedge that I still love to hit.  Conversely as seen in the “get to know” wedge pictures of all the wedges you can see the marked difference in the soles of the Cleveland CBX’s and the Indi’s.  
Mine are fitted with Recoil shafts as I play composite shafts in my irons.  An added bonus is that I am already familiar with Recoils as I outfitted a couple of my old Eye2’s with an earlier version and love them.
A pretty club is one thing, but if it sounds harsh, stings like an angry bee on miss hits or refuses to cooperate, it is nothing more than a good corner ornament testimony to what might have been!  What about these Indi wedges? Are they another pretty face or something better like good looks that delivers, kinda like Susan Tedeschi and her mad guitar/vocal skills.  
First swing impressions - the ball pops off the face with a smooth crispness I never had with the CBX’s.  Even slightly off center hits are quite pleasing to the ear.  It is a sound that inspires my new favorite word for these wedges, confidence.  It’s like when you strike the ball, the sound lets you know it’s not a flier but much rather a ball headed to your target point.  
 
You hear that crispness - from the rough, from the fairway, from the sand.  
Overall rating (8 out of 10)
THE NUMBERS (8 out of 10)
I really wanted to get on a Trackman or similar device but the closest place that had one available to “rent” was over an hour and half away (each way) and required a minimum of a month’s membership and you could only book one hour time slots.  As such I did not get any hard numbers on whether Indi wedges more than what the CBX’s do on the machine.  HOWEVER, I did put them through several rounds of side by side comparison of current wedges (old CBX 50-54-58 as well as new CBX 52-56-60 (had literally just updated when I learned I was to be a tester) vs the Indi’s.  So let’s break down my observations: 
Accuracy  - In the course of testing I kept seeing the same thing over and over - consistently accurate!  It did not matter if it was the 50, 54 or 58.  More than once the ball flight looked to be  a certain hole out off the green!  Did not get one, but I got close several times.  The closest I came was when I hit the 54 to 3” of the hole from 30yds out.  Ball checked to 18” past the hole!  A big plus when working on those ups and downs, pretty much my green side game.  Distance - This was a big learning curve as these wedges fly!  I found that I could swing easier, make solid contact and the ball was going to go where I needed it to be except farther.  Most wedge shots are not full swings and I found that these wedges were easy to learn how to swing to get a given distance.  It took practice in the backyard with each wedge to given distances, but after several sessions the distances were dialing in to where I knew a given swing with a given loft gave an accurate distance.  That is that confidence thing again!  Trajectory - Lower overall flight.  I found shot trajectories are more controlled with these over the CBX’s, which are meant to help folks get their wedge shots in the air.  I really love how a simple adjustment of ball placement took the ball from high arching to low and spinny.  And to see the ball really grab on those low ones to release and gently roll out on hard greens, just meant one thing - more confidence. Control and Workability - I am putting these together as after the first day or so, I was seeing that I could flight it low, high, open the face - do whatever with confidence that the ball was going within 95% of where I was planning.  There were the occasional miscues, total operator error, as the clubs can only do what is asked.  I found that these work well in sand without opening the face too much as the clubs inspired me to just hit the ball.  Best example - par 3 12 at my home course I am in the greenside bunker.  Set up with the 54 and figure I want to carry about 5 yds onto the green and let it release to the flag.  Ball comes out, about 3’ high and spinning up a storm.  It lands, checks and rolls to 3’ from the hole for an easy par.   One thing I have not noted was that I used the same ball through the main portions of the test, i.e. Pro V-1.  I did do a few holes with others (Callaway Super Soft, Maxfli Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, WIlson Duo Soft, Bridgestone e12, etc.), and found that the clubs worked well with those as well.  
Overall rating  (8  out of 10)
ON-COURSE  (17 out of 20)
With a total of 10 rounds including several where I focused on side by side comparisons with the CBX’s and one where I had just the wedges, a 7i, 5i and 5w plus almost daily workouts in the backyard, I developed a comfort with these wedges to where they became more and more predictable day in day out.  In the vlog I did,
I talk about what I am seeing and how the wedges are working.  
Varied Lies drill: I played these from tight lies (can you say almost hard pan), hard pan, fairway fluff, slight rough (2”), fluff sand and wet sand, wet early morning grass and mud!  How did they perform in the given lies?  From the tightest of lies, hard pan, the club picked the ball and sent it on its way.  At the opposite end, the rough posed no real problems as the club would slice through and free the ball.  Fairway lies were a dream.  To push the clubs, I even tried to figure ways to hit from awkward spots like the side of a pond in tall weeds and gravelly soil (insert photo).   That is not to say every shot was good or great, there were some bad shots.  However it was always “operator error” from me overthinking and not being confident in the process.   Stripped down bag drill:  The round with the 5w, 5i, 7i and Indi wedges proved that you don’t need a full bag to shoot a decent round.  The 50 worked well on the longer approaches while the 54 and 58 took care of greenside.   No GIRs drill:  The toughest test was playing to not have any GIR, even hitting par 3’s short.  This put a wedge in play on all 18 holes.   A hard test that went against scoring low but also built confidence in each club that proved that you can rely on these clubs on getting up and down when you do miss a green in regulation.    3 Wedge drill: This was one of the early tests.  I set up the bag with 3 sets of wedges (CBX - 50, 54, 58 (old - no sharpie dot), CBX - 52, 56, 60 (newer - red sharpie  dot), INDI - 50, 54-58 (green sharpie dot).  All had new ProV1's assigned (5 w/red dots, 5 w/green dots and 5 plain).  The drill was simple - if it was greenside up and down, I would hit five shots each with the 58's & 60 and eval proximity to hole (target),  longer wedge in would be the 50's & 52 - same goal, at the beach - the 54's & 56.  End result - the INDI's were the most accurate as they checked and stopped more readily, followed by the new CBX's (which did not hold as well as the INDI's) and lastly the old familiar CBX's that had substantially more roll out (which I had grown to accept and had learned to hit and allow for such).  THIS IS DEFINITELY A SLOW COURSE TIME DRILL!   The big downside in my testing was getting used to the turf interaction as opposed to how the CBX's had performed. I that in the first few holes where I was playing both the CBX’s and the Indi’s, the same angle of attack made for some chunky Indi’s. Yet, once I spent time just working on feeling the bounce the chunky monkey beaver tails went away.  While my overall scores remained consistent, I attribute much of that to the deliberate placing of myself in precarious shots that do not lend to better scores.  I wanted to work on being in trouble, not GIR - the things the average Joe or Jen golfer sees.  These wedges inspire you to take on those situations and do well! 
INDI Golf is one of the new kids in town and I was delighted to be part of this test.  As a newbie tester with a set of virtually fitted wedges, the guys at INDI did well.  So much so, I am seriously considering trying one of their putters this time on my dime.  I  love that companies such as INDI are making quality gear that allows the golfer who is not necessarily brand fixated have access to quality gear at competitive pricing.  I will be curious to see what INDI does next - will they go grind crazy like the big guys or stick to their model.  I want to reinforce my thoughts that I love the full face grooves, the simplified sole design, great shaft options - those may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it provides a smooth brew for this golfer!  
Overall rating (17 out of 20)
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18 out of 20)
The good starts with how I keep saying “confidence” or a derivative of that word, but that is what I want to write home and tell everyone about in these wedges.  In the course of testing I went from these are fun to I want to go pin hunting when wedging in!   I go back to the wedges all having the same sole design and bounce to promote consistency across the group.  I am reminded that this concept is something one may see with one length irons.  Anyway, they really work for me in this area. This led me to seeing a predictable consistency in shot shape, distance and overall accuracy.  It became a matter of what is the distance to the pin, okay that is ___ wedge.  ½, ¾ shots were super predictable as well.  I found the wedges very balanced almost to where I could not feel the head weight when swining. Others in the test noted the opposite that the clubs felt heavy. Its a matter of what your used to.     
The inbetween probably lies in two areas.  How much will spin decrease and will it be a rapid drop off or a slight taper over time.  This remains to be seen.  The second is purely overall aesthics, while I love them, I am thinking some may be put off by the lack of glitz and glamor or more importantly big name notoriety,  as they look like something that one might see at a box store.
The only bad that I could see is the "lack of grind options".  While these are two grind deal, one can easliy adjust their game and have good success.  The FLX grind really is a do all workhorse.  Grantled I was used to the CBX’s and their grind, very similar to the ATK’s, I believe INDI onto being wonderfully simple - pickers (small divots) just need to go FLX, digging for dollars divots just go ATK. 
Overall rating (18 out of 20)
PLAY IT or TRADE IT (20 out of 20)
Play - play - play.  These wedges offer a level of comfort and confidence that I have never really enjoyed with other wedges, the closest being the old Vokey Design 254-10.   Given that I am looking forward to seeing how they do this winter as I play year round here in Eastern NC.  It will be good to report on how wedge life happens when the elements are less than optimal.  
Overall rating (20 out of 20)
CONCLUSION
Again I want to thank the MGS mods for selecting me to be part of this test.  To be a newbie who gets to test these wedges was an honor and privilege.  My overall consensus of the INDI wedges is that they do deliver the spin to stop the ball on the green, they cut through the rough like a sling blade to lift the ball to freedom and are perfect to deliver balls from the beach!   For someone looking for a great wedge that is not flashy, that doesn’t bury you in a myriad of sole grinds, that is super reasonable in cost - the guys at INDI can be that one stop shop.  
FINAL SCORE (90 out of a 100)
 
 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

Indi Golf Wedges - Forum Review by Willie T
Intro- 
Well hello, MGS Community!  My name is Willie Tyndall (aka @Willie T on the forum pages). I am a newbie to the testing community as I am a first time tester but a member since 2019.  I am excited and thankful to be chosen for this wedge review with the Indi Golf wedges.  But before I get too far into that story let’s set the table so to speak on what brought my journey in golf to this point in time.  I have always been a person who loves the outdoors.  I grew up here in Eastern NC, which meant I had ample time to hunt, fish, play baseball and all the other things a kid of the ‘60s would have enjoyed.  Yes, that means I will be 64 in a couple of weeks!  
So how does a kid who does everything but golf get into the game?  I grew up watching some golf on TV, seeing Trevino, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Norman, Seve’, etc. make their way around the course. Anyone remember the old “Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf” TV series (still watch one now and again on YouTube)   But it was not a game within reach as my parents were not country club folk.  Fast forward to my working career in procurement for a chemical processing facility and the invitation in 2009 to play in a 9-hole Super-Ball team building exercise.  I was to just fill the “D” slot and not much more.  We finish the 9-hole round and my boss along with a couple of others opt to play the front nine.  I was asked if I wanted to join and I thought why not - it was that or either go back to the hotel and be bored.  Mind you, I was almost illiterate when it came to what’s in the bag.  After the first couple of holes, the best player leans over and says, “If you want to play off my tee shot that is okay” as we were playing stroke play..  I tell him that I want to play my tee and he tells me to use the 3 wood as it will get the ball airborne easier (1st lesson).  I am off and running.  At the end of the round, my counterpart from a sister facility looks at me and says, “You’ve learned more in nine holes than most will in a lifetime.”  I opted to "retire" while on top, until 2016...
Fast forward to 2016 and while I remember the round, golf is not a table item as I am into riding motorcycles. 
That changes in June that year as I get hit by a car that results in my left foot being degloved and I wind up as a trans-metatarsal amputee (no toes on the left foot, grafted skin from my left thigh to cover the wound). I tell folks I can only count to fifteen these days.😃  After learning to walk, I need a new hobby and our church men’s group is starting a once a month super-ball scramble.  I'm asked to join and I still have those old “real wood” Spalding woods, MacGregor blades and Spalding putter from the set gifted to me in the late 90’s.  My son and I tag along and the rest is history.  I get the golf bug and pick some newer “used” clubs, this time a full set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots (pat pend).  Likewise I pick a TaylorMade R580 driver and fairway woods and start practicing in earnest, learning to get the weight forward in a way that my rebuilt foot does not hurt too much. It has been a journey of first times, like when I got that first birdie, broke 100, broke 90, got to 80 (still haven’t broken it), had as few as 29 putts, holed out from off the green - several times.  The biggest joy is that my bride of 22 years has joined me from time to time (her game is no where as serious - she will tee off, pick the ball up and then drop on the green to putt out - very simple game that does not need wedges or approach play)...
a 7 yr old grandson who lives to play the game and his dad who is my regular golf partner (Yes, that's him dragging his plastic clubs a 4yrs old as my avatar).

As noted my current game has me bouncing between 13 and 15 handicap.  I have learned the value of up and down for par - hence my wedge game has been a key focus point in my daily drills at home.  That is why I am super stoked about the Indi Golf wedge test! 
The Personal Questions
What region do you play out of?  As noted I live in Eastern, NC and have access to a variety of course conditions from sandy soil to hard pan to mucky sod.  That’s just on the one primary course I play, which is where the majority of my testing will likely happen. 
How long have you been golfing?  Just over six years since I picked up the game to help rehab my foot and to have a way to be outside much like I was when riding bikes.  The rehab was to help teach my body to increase stability in that foot as well. 
What kind of golfer are you?  Pretty well self-taught through countless on-line YouTube videos, getting a couple of impromptu lessons from the course pros, a lot of from works such as Hogan’s Five Lessons to Nicklaus’ Golf My Way to current golf writers. I am an all weather golfer so its a year-round thing (which is pretty well afforded here in Eastern NC) where playing in the cold may mean waiting for the greens to thaw, in the heat (lots of water intake)…it does not matter which means I am looking forward to see how these wedges spin, spin, spin in the varied climate and topography they will see. With a handicap that hovers in the 13-15 range, I “average” around 28% GIR.  This means I do a lot of up-and-down work to try to save par, but also know that bogie is a real possibility.  When it comes to wedges, they are my lifeblood around the green.  I live for moments like this....
The Golf Questions
How do you want to test this product?  In as many and varied situations as possible.  I want to see how these work when there is a carry over a greenside bunker with a short side pin.  How they work when the ground is soggy and the ball is partially plugged (and there are no preferred lies).  When the grass is deeper and we are chopping out.  Of course in the sand - fluffy to supersaturated post rainfall sand….
What are your plans for the review and comparisons?  I will be doing initial testing here at home in my backyard as I have three “pins” set up to where I can hit anywhere from 5 to 35 yd shots in varied grass conditions. This is something I work on several times a week.  Likewise at the course for easy pitches onto the putting green and on course testing - my plan there is to take out several longer clubs and run double wedges (the Indi’s and my current go to, Cleveland CBX’s). 
"Yes, I am a Pirate (ECU that is).  200 years too late.  The cannons don't thunder....." (Jimmy Buffet moment there)   I don’t have ready access to a launch monitor bay, so I will need to be investing in a personal launch monitor over the course of this test to get some spin numbers that are more that just "I think it spins more!".    
What will make this product stay with you after testing?  Accuracy, predictability and playability.  I am looking for wedges that will hit and hold even when the greens are firm.  I want to know that a ½ or ¾ swing with the 54 will land at a given distance day in and day out  (whether its on line or not is a different story (user error?))  IF these can do that, they will be my number 1 wedges for the foreseeable future. Also in the long term, I want to see how they hold up, does the spin go away quickly? 
Why are you excited about testing this product? I love playing what everyone else isn’t.  When I happened onto Rick Shiels review of these wedges (YoutTube link), I thought that would be a cool wedge to try.  So when MGS announced, I put my hat into the ring.  This is my first test for the community and and excited to see if I can shed some light that will help others in their search for the better wedge for their game.  
What do you know about the product already? Only what I saw in Shiels’ video:
They look impressive.  
What are your expectations?  While "To be impressed" and "To be inspired" are pat answers, I am really looking to see if these offer the feel, touch, precision that is needed for wedge play to effectively lower my score by giving better up-and-downs when short of the green, accurate approaches when on 5’s to make GIR, to hit the number consistently.  Oh yes, to see that ball hit past the flag and then 180 back into the cup...yes, gotta make the ball spin!   
Virtual Fitting 
Last Thursday while on a Dairy Queen run with the missus and the grandkids, I get a call from Zane at Indi about doing the virtual fitting.  That was quick as I had sent my completed questionnaire along with a supplemental email to them the evening before.  Good thing - I'm East coast, they're West coast so the 3hr time differential paid off.  We get to talking about my game in a little more detail and I tell him about seeing Shiels' video.  Long story short after a couple of clarifications we come up with the following: 
50deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce w/Recoil F3 Regular 820 graphite shaft and conforming grooves, standard lie.  54deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs same as the 50.   58deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs as the 50 and 54.  As I play composite shafts through the bag (except the putter), we agreed the Recoil shafts would be a good fit.  Told him I really like the Recoils and have a couple of old Eye 2's that are fitted with them.  Hmmmm - maybe an Eye 2 eye comparison as part of the test?  Going to be fun! 
Unboxing/First Impressions 
Today (Aug 2nd) was delivery day....whoo hoo.  Was in the backyard when I saw the truck....

Met the driver in the front yard and with glee took the package as smooth as a wedge gliding under a ball that is riding the fairway carpet....

I have to admit I was slightly disappointed that it was not a guitar case like Rick Shiels got when his arrived, oh well I am not a YouTube celeb....still when I opened the package the clubs were sealed in a singular bag, the heads shrink sealed and covered with bubble wrap.  The goodies included a neat tee shirt, hat, coozie, divot tool....
 
Enough on the goodies, which are kewl.  The clubs themselves are flawless in terms of how they look.  No signs of excess glue from the assembly, the Golf Pride MC4 "midsize" grips are straight and true (and fit pretty well in the old hands as well)...

Dying to try them out as I was curious how they would interact with my swing.  Pulled the shrink off the 54deg and hit a few easy pitches in the backyard.  The first thing I notice is that they are "lighter" in feel than my current wedges - Cleveland CBX's.  It was not what I was expecting as they are very "Vokey" in appearance, so I was anticipated the heft that I tend to associate with them.  It just means they will take a little getting used to.  Speaking of "Vokey", these sit behind the ball in a very "Vokey" manner - inspiring confidence!   
I spent a few moments introducing the old wedges to the new wedges before we (my son and grandson) were off to play a quick 18 today....

So first impressions are that these are really well built wedges that I am going to look forward to testing.  Much more to come, hopefully a few very spinny shots!  Till later, Willie T
FIRST IMPRESSIONS (con’t) 
Indi states they are the “kings of spin” and I can say these clubs scream “we’ll be your spin doctor!”   As one who has never really been a spinner of the ball (talking the kind of spin that sends the ball back down the green on a tear), I am excited to see if they spin to the point that it is a confident stop and check no matter the green conditions.  For comparison, the CBX’s being somewhat worn don’t check and hold so this should be a big differentiator.  We’ll see. 
I do want to spend a moment on the grips, I don’t recall if I specified Mid-size grips or not, but the wedges came with Golf Price MCC4’s.  I have played midsize in the past but had recently been in a standard size grip mode so they will take/took a little getting used to. 
OVERALL Rating (19 of 20) 
Aesthetics (8 out of 10)
For me, looks wise, the clubs exude class from top to bottom!  I love it when clubs are understated and look purposeful.  These wedges deliver that look and then some. 
My initial thoughts were that the full face grooves would be somewhat distracting.  The opposite was/is true as they are actually very pleasing to my eye.  I found that the vertical edge of the grooves (hosel side) made a great reference to help “center” the ball on the face.  I found that I could have the inside edge of the ball along the vertical edge and would be pretty well centered.  
Speaking of the face, it is similar in size to the CBX’s and sits very well behind the ball.   
The wedges each have the same degree of bounce (10 for the FLX S’s) and that makes for a consistent feel across all when engaging the bounce.  It helped in my learning curve on how the wedges would react - as they all bounced the same.  
The sole of the FLX wedges remind me of my old Vokey Design 254-10 Sand Wedge that I still love to hit.  Conversely as seen in the “get to know” wedge pictures of all the wedges you can see the marked difference in the soles of the Cleveland CBX’s and the Indi’s.  
Mine are fitted with Recoil shafts as I play composite shafts in my irons.  An added bonus is that I am already familiar with Recoils as I outfitted a couple of my old Eye2’s with an earlier version and love them.
A pretty club is one thing, but if it sounds harsh, stings like an angry bee on miss hits or refuses to cooperate, it is nothing more than a good corner ornament testimony to what might have been!  What about these Indi wedges? Are they another pretty face or something better like good looks that delivers, kinda like Susan Tedeschi and her mad guitar/vocal skills.  
First swing impressions - the ball pops off the face with a smooth crispness I never had with the CBX’s.  Even slightly off center hits are quite pleasing to the ear.  It is a sound that inspires my new favorite word for these wedges, confidence.  It’s like when you strike the ball, the sound lets you know it’s not a flier but much rather a ball headed to your target point.  
 
You hear that crispness - from the rough, from the fairway, from the sand.  
Overall rating (8 out of 10)
THE NUMBERS (8 out of 10)
I really wanted to get on a Trackman or similar device but the closest place that had one available to “rent” was over an hour and half away (each way) and required a minimum of a month’s membership and you could only book one hour time slots.  As such I did not get any hard numbers on whether Indi wedges more than what the CBX’s do on the machine.  HOWEVER, I did put them through several rounds of side by side comparison of current wedges (old CBX 50-54-58 as well as new CBX 52-56-60 (had literally just updated when I learned I was to be a tester) vs the Indi’s.  So let’s break down my observations: 
Accuracy  - In the course of testing I kept seeing the same thing over and over - consistently accurate!  It did not matter if it was the 50, 54 or 58.  More than once the ball flight looked to be  a certain hole out off the green!  Did not get one, but I got close several times.  The closest I came was when I hit the 54 to 3” of the hole from 30yds out.  Ball checked to 18” past the hole!  A big plus when working on those ups and downs, pretty much my green side game.  Distance - This was a big learning curve as these wedges fly!  I found that I could swing easier, make solid contact and the ball was going to go where I needed it to be except farther.  Most wedge shots are not full swings and I found that these wedges were easy to learn how to swing to get a given distance.  It took practice in the backyard with each wedge to given distances, but after several sessions the distances were dialing in to where I knew a given swing with a given loft gave an accurate distance.  That is that confidence thing again!  Trajectory - Lower overall flight.  I found shot trajectories are more controlled with these over the CBX’s, which are meant to help folks get their wedge shots in the air.  I really love how a simple adjustment of ball placement took the ball from high arching to low and spinny.  And to see the ball really grab on those low ones to release and gently roll out on hard greens, just meant one thing - more confidence. Control and Workability - I am putting these together as after the first day or so, I was seeing that I could flight it low, high, open the face - do whatever with confidence that the ball was going within 95% of where I was planning.  There were the occasional miscues, total operator error, as the clubs can only do what is asked.  I found that these work well in sand without opening the face too much as the clubs inspired me to just hit the ball.  Best example - par 3 12 at my home course I am in the greenside bunker.  Set up with the 54 and figure I want to carry about 5 yds onto the green and let it release to the flag.  Ball comes out, about 3’ high and spinning up a storm.  It lands, checks and rolls to 3’ from the hole for an easy par.   One thing I have not noted was that I used the same ball through the main portions of the test, i.e. Pro V-1.  I did do a few holes with others (Callaway Super Soft, Maxfli Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, WIlson Duo Soft, Bridgestone e12, etc.), and found that the clubs worked well with those as well.  
Overall rating  (8  out of 10)
ON-COURSE  (17 out of 20)
With a total of 10 rounds including several where I focused on side by side comparisons with the CBX’s and one where I had just the wedges, a 7i, 5i and 5w plus almost daily workouts in the backyard, I developed a comfort with these wedges to where they became more and more predictable day in day out.  In the vlog I did,
I talk about what I am seeing and how the wedges are working.  
Varied Lies drill: I played these from tight lies (can you say almost hard pan), hard pan, fairway fluff, slight rough (2”), fluff sand and wet sand, wet early morning grass and mud!  How did they perform in the given lies?  From the tightest of lies, hard pan, the club picked the ball and sent it on its way.  At the opposite end, the rough posed no real problems as the club would slice through and free the ball.  Fairway lies were a dream.  To push the clubs, I even tried to figure ways to hit from awkward spots like the side of a pond in tall weeds and gravelly soil (insert photo).   That is not to say every shot was good or great, there were some bad shots.  However it was always “operator error” from me overthinking and not being confident in the process.   Stripped down bag drill:  The round with the 5w, 5i, 7i and Indi wedges proved that you don’t need a full bag to shoot a decent round.  The 50 worked well on the longer approaches while the 54 and 58 took care of greenside.   No GIRs drill:  The toughest test was playing to not have any GIR, even hitting par 3’s short.  This put a wedge in play on all 18 holes.   A hard test that went against scoring low but also built confidence in each club that proved that you can rely on these clubs on getting up and down when you do miss a green in regulation.    3 Wedge drill: This was one of the early tests.  I set up the bag with 3 sets of wedges (CBX - 50, 54, 58 (old - no sharpie dot), CBX - 52, 56, 60 (newer - red sharpie  dot), INDI - 50, 54-58 (green sharpie dot).  All had new ProV1's assigned (5 w/red dots, 5 w/green dots and 5 plain).  The drill was simple - if it was greenside up and down, I would hit five shots each with the 58's & 60 and eval proximity to hole (target),  longer wedge in would be the 50's & 52 - same goal, at the beach - the 54's & 56.  End result - the INDI's were the most accurate as they checked and stopped more readily, followed by the new CBX's (which did not hold as well as the INDI's) and lastly the old familiar CBX's that had substantially more roll out (which I had grown to accept and had learned to hit and allow for such).  THIS IS DEFINITELY A SLOW COURSE TIME DRILL!   The big downside in my testing was getting used to the turf interaction as opposed to how the CBX's had performed. I that in the first few holes where I was playing both the CBX’s and the Indi’s, the same angle of attack made for some chunky Indi’s. Yet, once I spent time just working on feeling the bounce the chunky monkey beaver tails went away.  While my overall scores remained consistent, I attribute much of that to the deliberate placing of myself in precarious shots that do not lend to better scores.  I wanted to work on being in trouble, not GIR - the things the average Joe or Jen golfer sees.  These wedges inspire you to take on those situations and do well! 
INDI Golf is one of the new kids in town and I was delighted to be part of this test.  As a newbie tester with a set of virtually fitted wedges, the guys at INDI did well.  So much so, I am seriously considering trying one of their putters this time on my dime.  I  love that companies such as INDI are making quality gear that allows the golfer who is not necessarily brand fixated have access to quality gear at competitive pricing.  I will be curious to see what INDI does next - will they go grind crazy like the big guys or stick to their model.  I want to reinforce my thoughts that I love the full face grooves, the simplified sole design, great shaft options - those may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it provides a smooth brew for this golfer!  
Overall rating (17 out of 20)
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18 out of 20)
The good starts with how I keep saying “confidence” or a derivative of that word, but that is what I want to write home and tell everyone about in these wedges.  In the course of testing I went from these are fun to I want to go pin hunting when wedging in!   I go back to the wedges all having the same sole design and bounce to promote consistency across the group.  I am reminded that this concept is something one may see with one length irons.  Anyway, they really work for me in this area. This led me to seeing a predictable consistency in shot shape, distance and overall accuracy.  It became a matter of what is the distance to the pin, okay that is ___ wedge.  ½, ¾ shots were super predictable as well.  I found the wedges very balanced almost to where I could not feel the head weight when swining. Others in the test noted the opposite that the clubs felt heavy. Its a matter of what your used to.     
The inbetween probably lies in two areas.  How much will spin decrease and will it be a rapid drop off or a slight taper over time.  This remains to be seen.  The second is purely overall aesthics, while I love them, I am thinking some may be put off by the lack of glitz and glamor or more importantly big name notoriety,  as they look like something that one might see at a box store.
The only bad that I could see is the "lack of grind options".  While these are two grind deal, one can easliy adjust their game and have good success.  The FLX grind really is a do all workhorse.  Grantled I was used to the CBX’s and their grind, very similar to the ATK’s, I believe INDI onto being wonderfully simple - pickers (small divots) just need to go FLX, digging for dollars divots just go ATK. 
Overall rating (18 out of 20)
PLAY IT or TRADE IT (20 out of 20)
Play - play - play.  These wedges offer a level of comfort and confidence that I have never really enjoyed with other wedges, the closest being the old Vokey Design 254-10.   Given that I am looking forward to seeing how they do this winter as I play year round here in Eastern NC.  It will be good to report on how wedge life happens when the elements are less than optimal.  
Overall rating (20 out of 20)
CONCLUSION
Again I want to thank the MGS mods for selecting me to be part of this test.  To be a newbie who gets to test these wedges was an honor and privilege.  My overall consensus of the INDI wedges is that they do deliver the spin to stop the ball on the green, they cut through the rough like a sling blade to lift the ball to freedom and are perfect to deliver balls from the beach!   For someone looking for a great wedge that is not flashy, that doesn’t bury you in a myriad of sole grinds, that is super reasonable in cost - the guys at INDI can be that one stop shop.  
FINAL SCORE (90 out of a 100)
 
 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! 

Who wants to be the king of spin?

Congrats guys. I hope you have as much fun with these as I am. 

Congrats testers! 

Congratulations testers!  Cannot wait for the reviews. 

Congrats testers! Really excited about this one!!!

Eyyyyy, nice one lads. Looking forward to seeing your reviews on these tasty wedges!

Congratulations testers!! Let’s see that ball spin!!