DHura87 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/22/2024 at 10:07 PM, SDunne said: Exactly what I have been looking for. I would saying putting is my weakest part of my game and is what I believe keeping me from getting into that single digit handicap. Thank you so much for the in depth explanation of some of these especially the palace one. Would never have thought to practice it that way. Rob Person and arodrig29 1 1 Quote Donald Hura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 7 hours ago, cnosil said: There are many schools of thought on putting. There are people that say you need to putt a certain way and other that say that putting is easy and just do what you naturally do. Just because a PGA player putts well, does that mean their approach is the best or that they are capable of describing what they actually do? You made a statement based on what is written in Tiger's book and it doesn't align with what he said Crenshaw told him to do. Like @cksurfdude my putting instructors haven't defined a specific measure or number for grip pressure, but one that is firm enough to keep the putter from drooping or twisting during the stroke. I personally think there are fundamentals that players should follow but players need to make decisions on how they want to putt. For example, how should the player move the putter: left arm dominant, right arm dominant, shoulder driven, arms around passive shoulders, pop stroke, etc. We can find people that are considered great putters that do any ones of those. IMO, players should work through various methods and find what they can do most consistently and starts the ball online and gives them solid distance control. This! I've worked through a bunch of stuff to correct a problem that wasn't a problem (swing arc) Also, every putter out there has design tendencies for your type of Stroke. A good example is the AI-ONE DB putter. It had came with a bent shaft as stock. 4 weeks later odyssey released a plumbers neck option. The plumbers neck is designed for those with a stronger arc in their swing. So I worked through making a straighter stroke to compensate for the bent shaft. arodrig29 1 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_puttercup Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I subscribe to the Izzy Justice school of thinking about as little as possible while golfing/putting. It helps to know that from 8 feet even the pros only make it half the time. A perfect putt can still miss due to so many factors. After I've committed to a line, my only thought on short putts is "get it to the hole." On longer putt I'm just trying to get it as close as possible with dying speed. I'm a fan of the drills you posted, except I do it with a PutterCup in the hole. arodrig29 and Rob Person 2 Quote Founder, PutterCup (puttercupgolf.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, matt_puttercup said: It helps to know that from 8 feet even the pros only make it half the time. The best player made 70% of their 8 footers and the 193rd made 35%. Average seems like a nice number to look at but there is a great bit of disparity from the top to bottom Rob Person and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 2/28/2024 at 12:35 PM, HighFade said: I wish I could, brother. My friends describe me as a really good player, but a horrible putter. Hoping to change that! Welcome back to the forums! Nice to see you here again, and hope you have a great year! Rob Person 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arodrig29 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 2/28/2024 at 2:45 PM, HighFade said: For me, it has more to do with putts inside 10 feet. I am an abysmal putter. I have been doing a lot of practice with 6 footers and I miss the hole completely - won't even catch the edge. But after reading a ton of articles, and watching a million YouTube videos on putting, I found out I am cross-eye dominant (I am right-handed, but left eye dominant). I moved the ball a little further up in my stance, and I close my right eye when lining up the putt, and I even keep it closed while putting. Dead straight into the heart every time. This is great. I have the same "issue" as I am right-handed but left eye dominant. I will definitely be trying these processes out. thanks for posting. Rob Person and SDunne 2 Quote Callaway Rogue ST max driver (Tour Ad IZ-6) Cobra LTD-X 3 and 5 wood (Tour AD UB-6) PXG 0317 X Hybrid (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue) PXG Gen 6 P 5-G irons (Mitsubishi MMT) PXG 0311 Forged wedges (Mitsubishi MMT) Ping Tein 4 putter blessed beyond measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamsecond116 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I make sure my stroke can make the ball roll end over end first and foremost. Have used Aimpoint to help with green reading and, quite frankly, using it on the practice green with only one ball has been tremendously helpful. I know Stack has a putting practice component that has had some phenomenal reviews... I have read it helps open your eyes to how often a missed putt is actually a misread. A lot of the drills mentioned above are great, but each stroke doesn't have to look/be perfect to be an effective stroke. I feel getting the ball is rolling end over end consistently and practicing green reading techniques have been undervalued in putting practice. SDunne and Rob Person 2 Quote Practical golf FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I usually start by practicing setup with gates, and then I work on speed by trying to stagger balls in either ascending or descending order. After that I just try to get a feel for the practice greens, trying to read uphill and downhill breaks. SDunne, Michael.Sandoval33 and Rob Person 3 Quote Driver : Rogue ST Max LS, 10.5° loft, MCA TENSEI AV White 65g, Stiff flex (45") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Utility: 699 Pro V2 Utility Satin, 18° loft, HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80g, 6.0 flex Irons: T200 6i-GW, 27°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: Indi FLX S-Grind, 52°/56°/60° lofts, Dynamic Gold Spinner 115g, Wedge flex Putter: King Vintage Sport 60, SteelFiber P125 shaft (34"), Quad Tour Taper grip Bag: Ultralight Pro, Ski Patrol/Black Push Cart: Nitron, Black/Red Rangefinder: Bushnell Tour V5 Shift 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sugar Golf Balls (Final Review Posted) 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sycamore 009 Mini Putter (Final Review Posted) 2024 Unofficial Review: The "Putting Thing" by WhyGolf -TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 FYI I just posted a new thread in Member Community General Q&A: A Step by Step guide to cross handed putting. I put a lot of time into how I made the switch and my opinions on the subject. I hope some who have putting issues find it helpful. Rob Person 1 Quote Drv: PXG 0211, Evnflo Riptide CB Senior, Callaway 454 TI (2004) 10 and an 11, regular flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr Tensei Blue CK 55 gram senior. TM Burner Superfast 3.0 M flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1 on Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC 3 18 degree, on Mamiya Recoil reg flex. 4 iron: forged Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree hollow body. 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil reg flex. Gap: 52/9 GFF Mizuno S5, Lob: 60/6 GFF Mizuno T7. Sand: Ancien Regime 56/12 Hogan Sure Out, Apex shaft. Heavy sole. Chipper: Ancien Regime Don Martin "Up n In" bronze or copper. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, 2 piece, multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 2/28/2024 at 11:45 AM, HighFade said: For me, it has more to do with putts inside 10 feet. I am an abysmal putter. I have been doing a lot of practice with 6 footers and I miss the hole completely - won't even catch the edge. But after reading a ton of articles, and watching a million YouTube videos on putting, I found out I am cross-eye dominant (I am right-handed, but left eye dominant). I moved the ball a little further up in my stance, and I close my right eye when lining up the putt, and I even keep it closed while putting. Dead straight into the heart every time. I posted a new thread Step by step guide to putt cross handed. take a look. Grip pressure has to be enough to not let the shaft twist in your hands. Not necessarily a light grip. Rob Person 1 Quote Drv: PXG 0211, Evnflo Riptide CB Senior, Callaway 454 TI (2004) 10 and an 11, regular flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr Tensei Blue CK 55 gram senior. TM Burner Superfast 3.0 M flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1 on Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC 3 18 degree, on Mamiya Recoil reg flex. 4 iron: forged Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree hollow body. 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil reg flex. Gap: 52/9 GFF Mizuno S5, Lob: 60/6 GFF Mizuno T7. Sand: Ancien Regime 56/12 Hogan Sure Out, Apex shaft. Heavy sole. Chipper: Ancien Regime Don Martin "Up n In" bronze or copper. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, 2 piece, multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNUte Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ruler drill yet. By a cheap flat metal yardstick from home depot/lowes/local hardware store. Hit a ball from one end of it off the other end without it falling off to the side. Absolute magic in terms of giving yourself confidence that you're hitting the ball straight. For me, that helps me be comfortable focusing on my green reads and distance control without having to worry I'll push or pull my putt. Rob Person and SDunne 2 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 58 minutes ago, MNUte said: I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ruler drill yet. By a cheap flat metal yardstick from home depot/lowes/local hardware store. Hit a ball from one end of it off the other end without it falling off to the side. Absolute magic in terms of giving yourself confidence that you're hitting the ball straight. For me, that helps me be comfortable focusing on my green reads and distance control without having to worry I'll push or pull my putt. I use a ruler a lot (almost daily), but I've recently started to wonder if it translates to the course due to my putting statistics being poor from everywhere except outside 30' which is just measuring speed control on lags. The ruler gives you reference lines perpendicular and parallel to help align the putter face that aren't there on grass. It has me interested in the putting laser from the pop-up ads I see online to see if I can roll the line. Rob Person 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNUte Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, BMart519 said: I use a ruler a lot (almost daily), but I've recently started to wonder if it translates to the course due to my putting statistics being poor from everywhere except outside 30' which is just measuring speed control on lags. The ruler gives you reference lines perpendicular and parallel to help align the putter face that aren't there on grass. It has me interested in the putting laser from the pop-up ads I see online to see if I can roll the line. I've never actually thought of that. My odyssey has a line marker, so I've never felt like I've had issues lining up my putter. In doing my ball set up, I pick a point a foot or so in front of my ball that's along my chosen path. I then try to have a consistent line going from the back of my putter mark through the line on my putter, through the line on my ball, and to that point on the ground. But if you have a dot instead or nothing, that becomes a lot harder. Rob Person 1 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 On 4/22/2024 at 11:04 AM, Donn lost in San Diego said: I posted a new thread Step by step guide to putt cross handed. take a look. Grip pressure has to be enough to not let the shaft twist in your hands. Not necessarily a light grip. Liked the information alot! Well-done Northern Monkey and Donn lost in San Diego 2 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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