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So I am a very new golfer but I have picked up the game decently quick and have been improving but, today I noticed my driver has large dents in the top of tje head from hitting a ball. I am just very curious what I am doing wrong and if I need a new driver or to get it fixed. There are about 2, quarter sized dents on the head.

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Hey @Aj M!  Welcome to the forum!

Can you share a photo or two of the dents?

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First welcome to the sport and the forum!

If there are dents that usually isn't good. Photos would be ideal as suggested, but doesn't mean it can't still be played. Altho I would have done concerns on its durability. 

Dents aren't anything that can be fixed, they happen for many reasons. A ball could be tee'd up too high and we swing under the ball causing it to hit the top, or if you lean the shaft forward a lot during a swing and are hitting down on the ball (we driver we normally want to be hitting up) it can also lead to the top edge being presented first at impact.

Maybe for now try teeing it a bit lower and yeah just maybe that will help?

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10 hours ago, Aj M said:

So I am a very new golfer but I have picked up the game decently quick and have been improving but, today I noticed my driver has large dents in the top of tje head from hitting a ball. I am just very curious what I am doing wrong and if I need a new driver or to get it fixed. There are about 2, quarter sized dents on the head.

First off, welcome to the forum and glad to see your first post is one about how you are a golfer just like me figuring out the game as you go. 

I had my own share of dents early in my game that is not that long lifetime-wise except mine were under the ball where I had hit the ball high with the driver so as it passed under the club head and bounced off a firm tee box surface, the rebound put a good pocket mark on the bottom of the club.  I am going to guess that is where your dents are as the club bottom becomes the top when put into the bag.

There are people here who not only know everything there is to know about golf clubs but they also build them for fun and know all the specs, not my thing however so the suggestion to add a photo or several is a great way to get an answer going in the direction you are hoping.

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I dented a.drivwe crown one time. Knew nothing about why it happened.  Later I had a friend do the same thing but was able to see how it happened.  He, much like me, was swinging way too hard at the ball. Very steep impact causing the top of the club head to hit the ball, not the face.

He did it again but on the bottom this time. Literally rammed the club head on top of the ball and into the ground. We were both new to the game back then too. Fortunately they were not new clubs, but still sucked it happened. 

Sometimes faster/harder swings don't create the best results for hitting a ball.

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I am shocked that no one has commented as to what these marks are called. This is certainly not your average website! Very good advice already posted here. The bottom of the arc should be behind the ball, approximately 2 inches and your "driver" club head should be moving upward 1-7 degrees at impact. The higher the degree at impact, the higher the launch angle and normally lower spin. This will optimize distance under most circumstances. Like @RickyBobby_PR said, I would recommend posting a video. Some very good people on this site are always ready to help! Welcome to MGS.

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You are more than likely hitting down on driver like it’s and iron. Probably have a big over the top move as well.

^^ This^^. I had my share of marks on Drivers when I first started playing golf! A video would be nice - but a lesson would even be better. 

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37 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

^^ This^^. I had my share of marks on Drivers when I first started playing golf! A video would be nice - but a lesson would even be better. 

Agree on both. A good teacher is going to help someone improve much faster than going the solo route and with better mechanics that will hold up over time. Too many on the solo route end up looking for new feels or working on something new because what they had found before stopped working. Usually because it was based on bad analysis of their own swing or misunderstanding a concept

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2 hours ago, Rob Person said:

Literally rammed the club head on top of the ball and into the ground. 

Yup I've done that as well when I started out. 

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Even those of us who have been golfing forever get into bad habits.  I was coming over the top something fierce earlier this year, as many of you read about and saw in some swing vids, and struggled to fix it as it had become engrained.  I had a few of those dreaded s*****l marks on my driver as a result.  They could have been dents if my swing were only slightly worse!

Thanks to my coach, and some good help on the sly from @cnosil, I got it fixed.  For now?  Lol.  (Oh, and also help from @chisag!  This forum rocks.)

So it happens to many of us, and happened to nearly all of us when we were beginning.  It's also fixable!

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8 hours ago, Aj M said:

 

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23 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

^^ This^^. I had my share of marks on Drivers when I first started playing golf! A video would be nice - but a lesson would even be better. 

Heres the photo of the dent and a video of my swing. I have very minimal golf experience but I have also been playing baseball for a long time so I see bits of that in my swing 

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Looks like you closed the club head swinging down really really fast and smacked the ball square on the top.

I'm not in any position to rate your swing mechanics , as I am still relatively new (nearly 3 years) to golf. But it looks like you are only using your arms to swing the club,  not your whole body.

Don't know how intuitive you are learning from watching video instructors, but there are some really good ones out there o. You tube (Danny maude as example) that may help you learn about swing and body position dynamics.   However, everybody swings clubs differently.

I'm sure it will be mentioned,  but if you are able to, look into a few lessons.

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On 7/9/2024 at 6:03 PM, Aj M said:

So I am a very new golfer but I have picked up the game decently quick and have been improving but, today I noticed my driver has large dents in the top of tje head from hitting a ball. I am just very curious what I am doing wrong and if I need a new driver or to get it fixed. There are about 2, quarter sized dents on the head.

Welcome to the Forum!!! I used have a steep swing as well.. I got a lesson and the pro got me straightened out, or should I say got me aligned properly. It was $100 and the money was well spent. It would be nice if you could provide a video of your swing, but there are some great free examples of some issues you may be facing on YouTube. Not saying that YouTube is the say all be all, but there are visual things they show you that may relate to your swing. The good thing is you are identifying issues and that is the first step to fixing them. And you came to a good place to get advice. Below are some good examples you can watch from YouTube. There are also apps you can use to work on your swing. I am using Golfshot and pay for the membership. It uses my apple watch to record my swing and gives me valuable information on my tempo, hand speed and angles, wrist angles, back swing, wrist angle for in to out and out to in measurements and much more data. Just some ideas for you. 

 

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On 7/9/2024 at 8:03 PM, Aj M said:

I am just very curious what I am doing wrong and if I need a new driver or to get it fixed. There are about 2, quarter sized dents on the head.

Everyone is trying to address what you are doing wrong, but you also had other questions.   Yes, you have dents in the club and they may impact performance a little but they cannot be fixed.   At this point I would not get a new driver and would continue to work on getting better contact with the driver.  
 

looking at the photos you posted it appears that you are teeing the ball too high and as a result the ball is hitting the top of the head.   The angle may be a little off but in your video it appears that you have 3/4 or more of the ball above the top of the head.   General recommendation is about half of the ball should be above the top of the head    IMG_0270.png.0f87d17c7dfe8fa577356acd701368f2.png
 

with the ball teed that high you get under the ball which potentially causes damage to the top of the head   In the photo you posted showing the damage I circled what appears to be scuff marks from balls on the top of the head.  

 

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1 minute ago, cnosil said:

Everyone is trying to address what you are doing wrong, but you also had other questions.   Yes, you have dents in the club and they may impact performance a little but they cannot be fixed.   At this point I would not get a new driver and would continue to work on getting better contact with the driver.  
 

looking at the photos you posted it appears that you are teeing the ball too high and as a result the ball is hitting the top of the head.   The angle may be a little off but in your video it appears that you have 3/4 or more of the ball above the top of the head.   General recommendation is about half of the ball should be above the top of the head    IMG_0270.png.0f87d17c7dfe8fa577356acd701368f2.png
 

with the ball teed that high you get under the ball which potentially causes damage to the top of the head   In the photo you posted showing the damage I circled what appears to be scuff marks from balls on the top of the head.  

 

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tee height is part of the problem but it’s predominantly a swing issue. 

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It’s easy to see you anre swing it like you are playing baseball but using a very low tee to him the ball.

issue is in setup, grip and takeaway. There is alot to get into and it would have little benefit to you.

Your best bet is to find a good instructor to work with.

 

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1 hour ago, Aj M said:

Heres the photo of the dent and a video of my swing. I have very minimal golf experience but I have also been playing baseball for a long time so I see bits of that in my swing 

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Sorry, didn’t see the video you shared. Here are some snapshots of before and after ball strike. 
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Right here it looks like your club face is open right before impact.

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Here it looks like your club face has closed pretty significantly right after impact. To me, and I’m no expert by any means, it looks like your closing very fast on your down swing at impact. If you’re teeing it too high and you do close too fast at impact. Your club face would be pointed at your feet and you could be hitting the ball with the crown (top) of the club on errant shots. IMG_5473.jpeg.2e9bf5c61cf5772c21bdca1c30279377.jpeg

Notice where it looks like your club face is pointed. I couldn’t slowmo your video enough to confirm, this is the best I could do. Thoughts @cnosil and spies?

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38 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

tee height is part of the problem but it’s predominantly a swing issue. 

Don’t disagree, but as I said, trying to answer his other questions and help him in the short term to prevent more damage to the club and making it completely unusable.  

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19 minutes ago, Erin B said:

Here it looks like your club face has closed pretty significantly right after impact. To me, and I’m no expert by any means, it looks like your closing very fast on your down swing at impact. If you’re teeing it too high and you do close too fast at impact. Your club face would be pointed at your feet and you could be hitting the ball with the crown (top) of the club on errant shots. 

The brain is forcing the him to close the face, if he didn’t the ball would go way right.

Focusing on what the face is doing only points out why the driver is damaged. From a swing standpoint it’s not something to focus on fixing. What happens here is a result of what happens much earlier in the swing. 
 

Will teeing it down lower prevent damage to the club? Maybe, it won’t fix the swing or results from it

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1 minute ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

The brain is forcing the him to close the face, if he didn’t the ball would go way right.

Focusing on what the face is doing only points out why the driver is damaged. From a swing standpoint it’s not something to focus on fixing. What happens here is a result of what happens much earlier in the swing. 
 

Will teeing it down lower prevent damage to the club? Maybe, it won’t fix the swing or results from it

I am not in disagreement with you. I completely agree he has a swing issue. Showing @Aj M a visual of what is happening with that particular swing is showing part of an issue in his swing. Seeing what the face is doing gives him a visual clue and also shows what could be the cause of damaging his club. Wrist rotation and closure rate are a part of his swing. Or maybe I am thinking differently...for me, a visual of what my club head is doing in my swing would help me work on my swing.

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3 hours ago, Aj M said:

Heres the photo of the dent and a video of my swing. I have very minimal golf experience but I have also been playing baseball for a long time so I see bits of that in my swing 

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You'll get lots of advice here - with all good intents. However, keep in mind that one recommendation/adjustment can lead to other issues. I'll restate my earlier recommendation go get a (live) lesson. Generally, the cost is equivalent to a couple of 18 hole rounds. But the cost will reduce lots of frustration, potential equipment damage such as you've experienced with your driver, not to mention lost balls on the course. There are lots of people that golf without lessons, however, it comes down to a simple question of the learning curve and how fast one wants to improve.  

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36 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

You'll get lots of advice here - with all good intents. However, keep in mind that one recommendation/adjustment can lead to other issues. I'll restate my earlier recommendation go get a (live) lesson. Generally, the cost is equivalent to a couple of 18 hole rounds. But the cost will reduce lots of frustration, potential equipment damage such as you've experienced with your driver, not to mention lost balls on the course. There are lots of people that golf without lessons, however, it comes down to a simple question of the learning curve and how fast one wants to improve.  

Yep, as stated in my first post. $100 on a proper fitting/lesson goes a long, long way.

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2 hours ago, Erin B said:

Sorry, didn’t see the video you shared. Here are some snapshots of before and after ball strike. 
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Right here it looks like your club face is open right before impact.

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Here it looks like your club face has closed pretty significantly right after impact. To me, and I’m no expert by any means, it looks like your closing very fast on your down swing at impact. If you’re teeing it too high and you do close too fast at impact. Your club face would be pointed at your feet and you could be hitting the ball with the crown (top) of the club on errant shots. IMG_5473.jpeg.2e9bf5c61cf5772c21bdca1c30279377.jpeg

Notice where it looks like your club face is pointed. I couldn’t slowmo your video enough to confirm, this is the best I could do. Thoughts @cnosil and spies?

so basically what you were saying was to not close my club face too quickly on impact? Also I appreciate your help

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2 minutes ago, Aj M said:

so basically what you were saying was to not close my club face too quickly on impact? Also I appreciate your help

You will hit right or way right if you don’t.

This is a reaction your brain makes to try and hit the ball straight.

You need to fix your grip, setup and takeaway/backswing. See a pro in your area to work on these 

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23 minutes ago, Aj M said:

so basically what you were saying was to not close my club face too quickly on impact? Also I appreciate your help

Look at your swing in slow motion. The picture I took should have you at neutral to partially closed club face at impact with an in to out swing plane. What I see is at the bottom of your swing you are super fast with your hands/wrists closing, and when you miss-hit the ball you are probably hitting it off the crown with a closed club face; part of that could be tee height, part of it club face pointed to your feet at impact due to too much hand speed closing the club face. (See pic in previous post). @RickyBobby_PR is correct, if you leave your hands open you will push the ball right. I think you should find a good pro and get a fitting/lesson to completely remove all doubt. Obviously there is a lot of opinion here and we all mean well. We all want to see each other succeed in this crazy game. I hope you find this information helpful and feel free to reach out anytime! 

 

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7 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

What happens here is a result of what happens much earlier in the swing. 

Do you think you can specify what I can change or work on to improve this aspect of my swing. Thank you!

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8 hours ago, cnosil said:

Everyone is trying to address what you are doing wrong, but you also had other questions.   Yes, you have dents in the club and they may impact performance a little but they cannot be fixed.   At this point I would not get a new driver and would continue to work on getting better contact with the driver.  
 

looking at the photos you posted it appears that you are teeing the ball too high and as a result the ball is hitting the top of the head.   The angle may be a little off but in your video it appears that you have 3/4 or more of the ball above the top of the head.   General recommendation is about half of the ball should be above the top of the head    IMG_0270.png.0f87d17c7dfe8fa577356acd701368f2.png
 

with the ball teed that high you get under the ball which potentially causes damage to the top of the head   In the photo you posted showing the damage I circled what appears to be scuff marks from balls on the top of the head.  

 

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I appreciate the advice in teeing the ball lower but I also forgot to mention that tee is rubber and a fixed height and I usually do not tee that high. Thanks for the advice!

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