[MyGolfSpy]

OFFICIAL WORD ON DEVELOPMENT:

This is a Tour Utility iron that is rolling out on Tour this week and a project/design of Roger Cleveland’s. There are no immediate plans to make it available commercially, although it might depending on how well it is received by tour staff and consumers. Right now, the only models available are at the Byron Nelson.

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[RoverRick]

I guess it is the angle but that blade looks like it is a foot long. 24* is not much of a driving iron.

[apprenti23]

I wouldn't say it's a driving iron- don't know why people even call them that considering ive never seen an iron with less than 17* loft and I don't know anyone who plays a 17* driver so.... Yea....

They're "utility irons" as what's stated on the heads. I've played the old x tour utilities since they came out years ago and I'm ready for an update. Not bc mine is worn but bc I'm bored of it. If this club looks feels and plays like the old x your utility irons then I'm all in. I had them in all three lofts but now only have a couple 21*s.

[RoverRick]

I have a Mizuno 24* FLI HI (4iron) that I love. I have been seriously considering getting the 21 and 18 degrees. The main reason I have not is because the have a .355 taper tip and I like the KBS Hyrid shafts. And to be honest they will have a very difficult time out performing my old Hogan's. I may get some and bore then out to .370 but I am hitting the set up I have so good.

So good in fact that this afternoon we had a guy join us for the last 5 holes and on one hole I pulled out a hybrid and heard the guy tell the other "Oh no, he is getting out the sniper rifles again. He's killing me all day with them." it is great to have three clubs the you absolutely know are going to go 190, 210, 225 in a straight line and can bend it you need too. Off the tee they are even longer.

[jmiller065]

If you are looking at 19,21,24,27,31,35,38,43,47 (2i down to PW). Some sets lately have been doing the 4* split from 6i to 7 iron instead of 5i to 6i, so it turns the 6i into a 30* and everything bellow it is 1* stronger as well. So this is a 4 iron replacement, it looks good and I like the idea, I use the 4 iron on some tee boxes from time to time other then par 3s, some weird short par 4 and par 5 it's a better play then anything longer.

This is a great idea for people that still want a iron hook but also have a hybrid type performance getting the ball in the air easier. I'll be the first to admit hitting a 2, 3, 4iron espesually a blade is no easy task, so I like the idea, I almost got myself a 19* Mizuno FLI HI one time when i was in the market for a 2iron equivalent.

[barbajo]

Sounds like you guys have had good luck with the FLI HI -- considered demo'ing it, but wound up happy with a couple of Cleveland Mashie's (20.5* and 23*). Put a good swing on 'em and like RR says - they're like sniper rifles.

Like the looks of this Callaway - although the head does look more like a foot than a head.

[GolfSpy Frank]

Whats the science behind making the head like that? Or is it the picture that makes it seem longer and skinnier than it actually is?

[RookieBlue7]

The science behind it is that lots of people can't hit hybrids. They struggle with them whether it be the look, confidence, etc. This is loads more forgiving than the traditional long iron but not quite large like a hybrid. This replaces long irons for those that struggle hitting them and can't hit a hybrid. It's nothing new, Controller had one in the 80's, PRGR has had them for a while, Fourteen is becoming quite popular (winner of The Players has one in his bag), Yonex's Zero Iron, Callaway's 2006 Utility, etc. They're a hair lower launching than their hybrid counterparts. They're also more iron like and for those that look down at a hybrid and see the headshape and swing it incorrectly like a fairway wood instead of the iron it replaces. This helps those types of persons.

MGS did Greg take these pics?

[MyGolfSpy]

The problem with their growth compared to hybrids is actually how they have always been marketed to consumers. These get marketed as "driving irons" which has resulted in players for the most part only using them off the tee where the hybrid was marketed as a utility club and almost a replacement for people that struggle with fairway woods. True that generally they are lower launching than most hybrids, although they could produce one that is more functional for a larger variety of shots. And I actually think it would perform better for most golfers compared to hybrids.

But long irons in golfers mind say one thing nowadays "hard to hit" and hybrids say "easier to hit"...of course this is for the average golfer. So hybrids became the trend and "driving irons" for the most part got phased out of production lines. Which honestly is a shame, because these could be very effective clubs for a large % of consumers.

These pics came from the Fujikura Rep via his Twitter account. No clue who actually was behind the camera. But I would doubt Greg posted an out of focus pic. But could be possible.

RookieBlue7, on 15 May 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

The science behind it is that lots of people can't hit hybrids. They struggle with them whether it be the look, confidence, etc. This is loads more forgiving than the traditional long iron but not quite large like a hybrid. This replaces long irons for those that struggle hitting them and can't hit a hybrid. It's nothing new, Controller had one in the 80's, PRGR has had them for a while, Fourteen is becoming quite popular (winner of The Players has one in his bag), Yonex's Zero Iron, Callaway's 2006 Utility, etc. They're a hair lower launching than their hybrid counterparts. They're also more iron like and for those that look down at a hybrid and see the headshape and swing it incorrectly like a fairway wood instead of the iron it replaces. This helps those types of persons.

MGS did Greg take these pics?

[apprenti23]

Heard from a decent source that these will NEVER make it to production.

Surprising if true

[RookieBlue7]

apprenti23, on 15 May 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Heard from a decent source that these will NEVER make it to production.

Surprising if true

I'm sure if the consumers keep asking Cally about them, they'll come out. They said that about the blade Phil was putting with and then it did come out later. I like the more iron shaped hybrids (I played a 503.H and then AirMuscle for a long time and lots hated them). With the tour traction these types of clubs are getting (Fourteen, Yonex, etc), one will come to mass market sooner rather than later. May not be callaway, but someone will mass market one.

[MyGolfSpy]

OFFICIAL WORD ON DEVELOPMENT:

This is a Tour Utility iron that is rolling out on Tour this week and a project/design of Roger Cleveland’s. There are no immediate plans to make it available commercially, although it might depending on how well it is received by tour staff and consumers. Right now, the only models available are at the Byron Nelson.

[Addicted2Golf]

I swear by Cobra's Baffler Hybrids. I'm on my third generation of them. But then, I'm a sweeper so a hyrbid fits my swing better than most.

[RoverRick]

I thought, am still thinking, about the Mizunos simply so that when someone asks what I hit I can say 2 iron.

But the face does not have the pop that the titanium hybrids do on partial shots. And my hybrids do everything I ask them to do.

[Stuart81]

imho I like the look of it

Stuart