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So I've only been able to get 3 Stack Putting rounds under my belt with the 3-dot alignment plate changed out for the 3-line. It's been...interesting. 3 rounds is not enough to be considered statistically significant I would think, but so far...
The top 3 entries are with the 3-line plate. As you can see, my first go round was basically in line with the 3 dot. The next round, however, was the worst I've seen with the Array. More to follow, but I was a bit surprised to suddenly struggle so mightily with it so quickly.
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17 minutes ago, Hobert said:
The risk for the Broncos is that if the drop too far back/wait too long, someone like the Giants may swoop in and grab the last of the top 6 QBs. But now that they have Zach, they should just go OL/WR...
I'm hoping getting Zach was just a flier. If he's the plan, good lord....
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37 minutes ago, GaDawg said:
Personally, I would not pick Nix in the first round but that's me.
Agreed. I hope Denver trades back, picks up a second in the process (they don't have one), and he's still there in Round 2.
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1 minute ago, chisag said:
... This draft has the potential to be a historic QB class. And the potential to improve mechanics at the highest level is so very impressive. But I think it is safe to say all have the physical skills to thrive right now. But playing QB in the NFL requires superior ability between the ears. I expect that to shake out with this years 5 or 6 QB's taken in the first round. Not to harp on Fields as I could use Trubisky as well, but both have the physical skills to play at the highest level and Fields athleticism and throwing ability is off the charts. But mentally he never could adjust to the NFL, learning to process information instantly and get rid of the ball quickly.
... I remember a seminar hosted by a scout my son and I attended for high school football players looking to be recruited for college and the one thing that stuck with me was the speed of the game. He said you must play faster than everyone else or as he put it "You must play at college speed in high school". This is as much mental as physical so processing information quickly and reacting is the key. He said when he puts on tape, he expects to see someone playing much faster than everyone around him. Better to make mistakes playing fast than play at the speed everyone else is playing. I think we all know it is a big jump from high school to college, but pales in comparison to the HUGE leap from college to the NFL.
... It is that mental ability that separated Tom Brady from Jamis Winston. I think Williams and Maye are already there. Most likely Daniels and Nix too. I have a suspicion McCarthy may struggle here and why I hope he goes to the Vikings LOL. Pennix is a mystery to me as far as translating how he will transition to the NFL. Of course like every GM that has lost their job, I could be wrong on all of them. But one way or the other, this years QB class will be talked about for years to come.As a Broncos fan I'm seeing a lot of mock's that suggest McCarthy won't be there at 12, but Nix will. But, those same mocks suggest Nix at 12 is a reach. We'll see.
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6 minutes ago, Byrnzee said:
These four swing thoughts have been great for me recently and I'm hoping to keep converting them to muscle memory in order to think less on the golf course. If you've made it this far, I appreciate you taking the time to follow along!
Way to keep after it. How often are you practicing on a range? Is some of your practice "dry"...in other words away from the range, not hitting balls, just working on repeating the movements you're describing?
And have you played lately? Wondering how things are translating to your scores.
- Byrnzee, cksurfdude, TJ Hall and 1 other
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3 minutes ago, JeremyD said:
Looks like version 1 was on the Trainerize app, which I used with a different trainer and loved it. Is it still through Trainerize, which I was told made some nice improvements? The questionnaire looks awesome, as I'm one that has trouble picking which workouts to do.
Right, I used version 1 and it was on Trainerize.
During our introductory call Mike shared that he consistently got feedback that a less-than-great user experience with that app was a constant point of feedback he received, and he was frustrated because he didn't really have any control over that. Consequently, @Fit_For_Golf2.0 is entirely his and developed from the ground up.
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My little treat to self arrived yesterday. If you guessed TaylorMade Qi10 7 wood with Ventus Blue 7s w/Velocore shaft, you guessed correctly. Can't wait to get it out on the course!
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5 hours ago, Siamese Moose said:
After two fitting sessions I ordered a set of Ping i530 irons today. Some big changes from my old specs: 1° flat where I was 2° up, added 15 grams of shaft weight, and went a full flex stiffer. My current set (M3) are six years old, and I've been working on my swing a lot in that time. My fitter recommended the retro spec loft, and he says he may bend the longer irons a little weaker still. Once they're in we'll see what the yardages actually come to, and decide about changing or bending my wedges.
It was nice on the wallet that he recommended I stick with my current woods (G410 driver, Cobra F9 5 and 7), though we did tweak the loft and weight settings. I bought the hybrids last fall, so they were not in play today.
Wow, 3 degrees of lie angle is a significant change. And how weak are we talking on the lofts? What will your PW be, for example?
- cksurfdude, ejgaudette, TJ Hall and 2 others
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12 minutes ago, cnosil said:
So it sounds like you are saying fitting for alignment aids is unnecessary because the player adapts to whatever the alignment aids is. Basically you just pick what you like and figure out how it works.
I personally don’t think my eyesight adapts, eyesight is what it is. My understanding of the way Edel fits is that they test different alignment aids to see what works best for you. There is no personal preference unless 2 or more provide the exact Same performance.
FWIW, from the Edel website:
"All golfers have an aim bias. Every line and visible attribute of a putter drives one's eyes to a specific location and dictates where a golfer aims their putter. This creates path deviations and face rotation challenges, among other compensations. Solve your aim bias by pairing your Array Putter with your optimal alignment plate."
Personally, and I think where you're going with this, I think Edel's intent with their alignment plates is to give you an alignment that corrects for your bias, not necessarily give you the one that best comports with your bias or feels the best.
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Changing the alignment plate was too easy. Two screws accessed via the longer-than-average Edel wrench is all it took.
Now for some Stack putting with the new alignment plate.
- ZackS, cnosil, ejgaudette and 4 others
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3 hours ago, Bucky CC said:
Definitely missing more short with the F-2. Even on the putts that I have been making I've noticed that they are barely rolling.
The white hot insert typically has the speed of a foot or two of rollout past the hole. Could just be that I'm not used to the different feel of the F-2 and things will get better with more usage.I had a very similar experience. Like you I switched from an Odyssey, the White Hot OG Double Wide. I left them short for a while, but I did acclimate and distance control is improving for me. Going from an insert to milled is not a small change.
- Rob Person, ejgaudette and Bucky CC
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With few more Stack putting rounds under my belt, I continue to really enjoy the F-1. I've had a hard time consistently breaking through the 1.19 putts per hole threshold, but I suspect that will come with a little more dedicated practice time. (I've had an extremely busy couple of weeks professionally.) And interestingly enough, according to this limited sample size Stack Putting says I have a bit of a right miss bias with the 3-dot alignment plate.
The 3-dot alignment plate is what my fitting prompted, based on the notion that the 3-dot can correct for a LEFT aim bias that was identified in my fitting. However, I'm of a mind to further explore that nuance, so tomorrow I'll be changing the alignment plate to the 3-line version and testing to see how it impacts the direction bias.
Either way, I still think this is a damn good-looking putter...
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With 4 of 6 testers up and running, I'm looking forward to finding out which of the many program options they'll be jumping in to. One of the big improvements from the old app is the FFG Program Matcher, a quiz that assesses your equipment access, current fitness level, golf goals, and how much time you can dedicate to the workout to point you to the right program.
The old app (which I was a big fan of) required you to read the text descriptions of each available training program and make the best determination you could. The Program Matcher doesn't force you to choose its recommendation, but it's a really nice way to find the best training option for you.
For me, I'm in the Velocity program given the time of year and my clubhead speed goals. I'm already really looking forward to the offseason to hammer the Mass program though.
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A HUGE thanks to the very patient group of testers we have here. Mike ran into some obstacles getting the app out the door, but we now have 4 Android-using spies with the app in hand and 2 Apple users who should have it in 2 weeks time.
I’m very excited to see their first impressions and watch them progress!- MaxEntropy, ILMgolfnut, ejgaudette and 2 others
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3 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:
This isn't surprising to me at all, the guy who makes his money by teaching golf swing says that golf swing is more important than speed training, the guy who makes his money from speed training says the opposite. I think each one is correct at times, depending on the individual player. My personal experience, as a semi-competent and experienced swinger, my swing DID seem to become more efficient through Stack sessions, and I find I'm hitting it straighter on the course.
Tend to agree, although I would offer the Stack is far more a “side hustle” than how Sasho makes his money. He’s been a biomechanics professor and tour consultant (nicknamed “The Savant of Speed”) for far longer than he’s been selling a speed training implement.
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38 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:
Most people have an inefficient swing. When you put speed training on top of that it makes the bad swing worse.
Does the person get faster, sure just like weight training, even with some bad technique one can get stronger, but it doesn’t improve their technique and it can create more inefficiency in the movement.
With the golf swing despite the added speed it doesn’t translate to the course because you have to react to the where the club it at and the brain is going to get the body to slow down to let the necessary parts catch up and you end up with no speed gains on the course.
now take that same inefficient swing and work on improving pressure shifts, rotation and using the ground and one will easily pick up 5-10mph.
Instructors get students extra speed just by improving their swing. I’ve read Monte talk about students he has going from 80mph swings with driver to 100 or more, 90 mph guys reaching over 100. Adding speed to a bad swing is a recipe to have bigger misses or no change at all for on course play
That’s not consistent with Sasho McKenzie’s findings, wherein speed training golfers often find improved technique as they learn how to more efficiently create speed in their swing.
Do you have experience in speed training yourself?
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9 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:
Speed training can be a detriment to those with bad swings and those who fix their swing will gain speed through that alone. Speed training with a bad swing ends up causing more problems than it helps because it creates bad movement patterns on top of already bad movement patterns. Good to great coaches have touched on this and one of the members here was told by their coach to stop speed training because his swing regressed
Sure, there are exceptions to the general notion that most would benefit from speed training.
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57 minutes ago, Preeway said:
I agree that both articles bring up some very good points but I don't know how transferable it is to the ordinary person who isn't playing virtually every day. I think there is much more to be made about the value of lessons, followed by practice, followed by lessons again, with more practice. Seems like a lot of people don't really get how hard it is to refine the specific skills that lead to a round in the 70s. Specifically, putting and chipping. You don't need to drive it more than 250 yards to play scratch golf. It helps, but distance isn't as much of a limiting factor as lack of short game and putting can be.
True, but distance is a huge enabler to lower scores. The closer you are on approach, and with increased speed in general, you can put shorter clubs in your hand. Proximity to hole in turn goes up, meaning more makeable putts.
Not disagreeing with you, you can absolutely play to a scratch driving it 250, but it’s easier to do it driving it 270. It’s why I feel speed training is almost a must-do if your really want to lower your score to the fullest extent possible.- buckpillar, Shifty, JuniorXVIII and 4 others
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44 minutes ago, CFreddie said:
@Bucky CC - that putter is beautiful!
QQ for you and @GolfSpy AFG - how did you decide on the three dot alignment aide (apologies if this was covered in a post on this thread)?
As part of the DF3 test, I'm going back and forth on a couple different alignment options, and I'm intrigued by a single / triple dot. Would love to hear how yall ended up with the dots!
The 3 dot Is the alignment plate Edel recommends to help offset a left aim bias, which I demonstrated in the fitting.
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Just now, Bucky CC said:
It has finally arrived! I'll have more thoughts later, but first impressions are pretty strong. The putter has a very clean look.
And yes, I had to test if it could pick up a ball as well. Struggled to pick it up by sweeping the ball, but it sticks well if you push down on the ball from above.
Nice putter!
I almost went with the F-2 and 3 dot. Fitter said either would be a good fit but the F-1 was just a little bit better. I really like the look of the F-2 though!
- Rob Person, Bucky CC, William P and 1 other
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1 hour ago, Hacker60521 said:
Newbie question for this thread. Does MGS have a discount code for the Stack System? Or does anyone have a sense of how often and how much of a discount the company will offer?
I’m patient, and willing to wait for a good discount offer.
MGS doesn’t have a promo code. But, message one of us current users and we can send you a referral link from the Stack…gives the current user another year of free app access, and gives you $50 off.
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Ugh. Remember when I complained about Full Speed Spectrum Phase 2? Tomorrow’s my first Phase 3 workout.
That second time around with 240 is going to feel like swinging a telephone pole…
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Sunday afternoon I finally got the F-1 on the course. It was a hit and giggle 9-hole round with my 10 and 8 year olds in tow, so I can’t provide much in the way of Strokes Gained or any insightful statistical analysis.
What I can say: it was the first time in a long time where putting was a strong point! I went to the course right after a Stack session and with pre-workout pumping through my veins…not exactly a recipe for accuracy. I barely kept it in bounds and only had 3 GIRs, but I also only had 13 putts on the round and no 3 putts.
That’s a bit misleading in that my short game is coming around a bit; I hit several chips close. That said, I also drained a par-saving 12 footer and an 18-footer for birdie. My confidence is beginning to really climb with this thing!
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Phase 3 of Full Speed Spectrum is no joke. I've been pretty happy to see my speeds stay pretty consistent through Phase 2 and 3; to my mind that means I'm primed to make a pretty healthy jump in Phase 4. That said, today was not so good. End of a week of less than ideal sleep is at fault, I think. I'm about to travel for 5 days and won't be able to do a Stack workout until next Thursday, which will hurt my Grit score but honestly I think I'll benefit from the rest. Hoping today was just an aberration, and with a lot of sleep I can hit next Thursday ready to set some new PBs.