Fujikura Golf

Posted October 13, 2020 · October 13, 2020

On 10/7/2020 at 9:30 AM, dlow206 said:

@Fujikura GolfI have been having some struggles recently with my SIM Max with Ventus Red and the ball starting right and ending more right. Been able to somewhat fix it and hit playable shots. Wondering if I go back to my Motore X F3, if maybe it might help reduce my right miss, given it is not quite as stiff in the tip as the Ventus?

yes give it a shot, it's overall a bit softer so it may help you not miss as much right. Let us know how it goes

October 13, 2020

On 10/8/2020 at 1:32 PM, the great spinks said:

The single most impactful addition to my game was putting this on my driver. I'm longer and straighter. It's a lot easier playing from the fairway or just off of vs hitting out of the trees/muck/dropping a ball due to water.

love to hear this!

Posted October 7, 2020 · October 7, 2020

On 9/20/2020 at 1:55 PM, azstu324 said:

So here's a complete head scratcher..

Saturday I went out with my pops for 18. he showed up with a brand new (well purchased used) but literally in new condition, Sim Max 10.5 with an aftermarket Ventus Blue R flex shaft. He's hitting some really nice straight bombs. For him, with a swing speed in the mid to low 90's, a bomb is anything over 225 yds. We were both completely blown away at how the club was performing for him. Looks, sound, performance.. all boxes checked. He's happy, and I'm happy that I don't have to tell him that he made another huge golf-related impulse buy mistake.

So I decided to get up to the plate and swipe a few. I started out with just some nice controlled VERY slow swings. just to get a feel for the club and shaft. Everything was straight, Mid-high but nice and penetrating.

So I stepped on the gas a little.. still, slower swing but controlled, probably in the low 100's. Nothing changed at all but the distance. OK.. let's see how much this thing can really handle. So I opened up the throttle all the way and gave it my full swing. WTF?! I was going all out at 110+ and the shaft felt just as controlled and smooth as it did at turtle speed. I would dare say I was probably hitting longer than my Cobra with the Motore X F1 6X. It would really be interesting to see what the comparison #'s are on a LM. Needless to say, my world just got flipped on its @$$.

@Fujikura Golf if you're still listening, please help. Is the Ventus really that good of a shaft that an R flex is as stable at 110 MPH as it is at 95? . I'm just wondering what kind of damage I could really do with a Ventus S or XS in Blue or even Black.

Sorry we've been "AFK" guys... There's a fitting philosophy that to maximize distance you want a shaft to flex/kick as much as possible...but you may sacrifice control obviously. With VENTUS blue, the VeloCore being full length stabilizes the shaft, reducing twist throughout the swing, so that helps with the control. The R flex is probably way too soft for you on paper, but yes, you may get more distance because you're able to gain speed as the shaft unloads due to softer flex.

The opposite happens when golfers swing a shaft that is too stiff - there is no loading, they change they way they swing, often trying too hard down at the bottom, adding dynamic loft and increasing spin. Like golfers saying "ventus black spins too much for me" well...that's likely because it's not the right fit, it ain't the shaft...

So to conclude, with Ventus (particularly blue, with softest handle section of the 3) you should be able to play a comfortable flex, still load the shaft well and maintain control.

Hope that helps and provides some insight.

Thin2win · August 4, 2020

On 3/21/2020 at 6:32 AM, Hotdocta said:

I had been gaming ventus black for a couple of months. I did not get fitted but bought into the hype. I Was coming from a fitted tz5. At first the ventus seemed great. I was definitely a bit tighter in dispersion. For whatever reason though I was losing 10-15 yards, Finally went on trackman and saw that my spin dropped to below 1800 and my ball was just dropping out of the air. Since then I have switched to the graphite design xc and it is a dream come true. Amazing dispersion and my distance is back.

btw this is my first post! Wrx was getting a bit stale and I thought I would try someplace new.

Did you try Ventus Blue?

Posted July 6, 2020 · July 6, 2020

3 hours ago, dlow206 said:

I really loved the Motore X F3 shaft during my extended time reviewing it.

However, after multiple rounds with the Ventus Red, it just feels like cheating. I've learned that I can swing hard and more often than not, the ball ends up in the fairway. I have to try really hard with the Ventus to hit a bad shot, like swinging out of my shoes and falling over hard (but even some of those ended up good).

The one difference that I have found between the Ventus and any other shaft is that with other shafts, the ball will occasionally draw and occasionally fade. With the Ventus, its always power fade.

Appreciate the update. Ventus line is tough to beat. If the Motore X doesn't work the best for you we're glad to hear Ventus does! I personally play the Red. I like the profile compared to the blue where the Red is stiffer in the handle and mid section. It's also incredible in my 5 wood...!

Posted July 1, 2020 · July 1, 2020

On 6/29/2020 at 4:50 PM, goaliewales14 said:

Thank you!! I'm going to go check the PGA SS tomorrow to see if they have a Ventus Blue w/Velocore in fitting van. I'm guessing we'll see Motore X creeping into the OEM offerings next season??

for custom upgrades? yes, more than likely.

Posted June 29, 2020 · June 29, 2020

On 6/27/2020 at 2:59 PM, goaliewales14 said:

Unfortunately when I went for my fitting with Taylormade today, they didn't bring any premium shafts with them. They also didn't have any shafts in a 70+ gram X range. The only shaft he had was his own that was a Diamana FW Limited 75 X. It did really well. I liked the softer tip to be able to feel the weight of the club head, but very disappointed I couldn't put it head to head with a true Fujikura shaft.

Bummer! Wish we were there with some Fuji demos Check to see if there's a local shop near you with some Fuji demos: https://fujikuragolf.com/dealer-locator

and also, congrats on your career low round!

Posted June 10, 2020 · June 10, 2020

By the way you guys have blown us away with your reviews and the ongoing conversation about Motore X! Thank you so much and let's keep it rolling!

For those of you guys who were not testers, but are interested to try the product - what would get you to do so? Promo at your local clubfitter (i.e. test a motore x and get discount), an online trial program (you get shipped a demo to plug and play into your driver head), etc? Would love to hear your thoughts!

Posted June 8, 2020 · June 8, 2020

On 6/5/2020 at 10:38 AM, dlow206 said:

@Fujikura Golf - With the Motore X now having been out on the market for some time, what has been the feedback compared to the Ventus line? I get the theoretical differences, but wondering what the real world feedback has been.

Ventus is our flagship product, coming in at $75 more MSRP than Motore X due mostly to VeloCore with more premium materials like full length Pitch 70ton. So in fittings Ventus generally will yield tighter dispersion, better center face contact than Motore X. However, we've seen that Motore X can yield faster ball speeds (compared to say Ventus or PRO 2.0) and still retain great dispersion. Does that help answer what you were looking for? if not let us know!

Posted June 8, 2020 · June 8, 2020

On 6/4/2020 at 12:35 PM, azstu324 said:

I guess the big question is: Is everybody doing it wrong? We all seemed to be making those same compensations for the equipment defaults. Finally, we get a shaft that has those defaults corrected and we now have to learn how to correctly swing a club again. I'm with you, I have always been a big in to out guy which seems to require a bit more effort and body movement. Being able to neutralize both my back swing and follow through, almost seems a bit more effortless and with better results.

Some feedback from @Fujikura Golf on this matter would definitely help solidify some of our conclusions.

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There are a significant amount of factors with the shaft and club that can affect path and face. Such as length, swingweight, EI profile (stiffness in different areas), etc. Sometimes a player feels they need to work harder with different shafts. As an example, ehen products become too stiff certain players will increase their attack angle, swing from the inside, and turn the hands over quickly. Not for all players, but we see it. It sounds Motore X times well for your swing and the body isn’t working hard to get the ball going on the intended path. Some shafts just click! and that is why we make a huge variety of profiles and encourage custom fitting.

We're excited to hear Motore X is working so well for you guys and appreciate all of the reviews and feedback! Let us know of any more questions

Posted June 5, 2020 · June 5, 2020

On 5/31/2020 at 12:15 PM, dlow206 said:

The Motore X has firmly made its place in my bag!

Today, I cleaned up a fundamental issue with my setup (gripping the club too lightly and left hand coming off at the top of the swing and then regripping the club and hitting snap hooks). After that, my SIM Max with Motore X F3 was money. I was hitting drives 240 to 250 carry down the middle, which may not be far for others, but for me that is in the outer limits of how far I have ever carried the ball.

I was able to carry a bunker that was 250 yards out, but unfortunately got 0 roll. It was wet and the ball plugged and buried itself in the fairway where it landed. I have never even gotten close to carrying that bunker even from the white tees and I carried it today from the blue!

Love to hear this! We know most of you guys love to tinker and try new equipment, so when our shafts wni out that is major validation for us!

On 6/3/2020 at 8:52 PM, azstu324 said:

Stellar job to everyone so far! Looks like a huge victory for Fujikura with a 4/4 success rate from a really diverse spectrum of testers!

Agreed, thanks everyone for being so engaged on Motore X and sharing your feedback/questions. Apologies for being somewhat MIA. We're going to cruise back through the thread and try to address any questions you have had.

yungkory · April 20, 2020

On 4/8/2020 at 10:14 PM, yungkory said:

Are you able to comment on the "Taylormade" or "non-velocore" version of the Ventus? It was said earlier that your factories are wholly owned, does that mean you are producing the shaft for them, or are they (TM) making it? Is the profile relatively the same, with better materials making the tip stiffer?

No those shafts are produced in conjunction with TM at our partner factories in China, which we utilize for some production of other Fuji parts, not just OEM shafts.

Posted April 14, 2020 · April 14, 2020

16 hours ago, revkev said:

So always what’s most important is whether or not the item tested works on the course.

My ARCCOS driving handicap has dropped from 15 to 9 during this test. My overall handicap from 6.0 to 4.1.

That counts for something

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revkev - this is great to hear!

Thanks for the feedback and we look forward to hearing more about this from all of the testers once this ongoing crisis is resolved!

Stay safe and healthy!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

Posted April 9, 2020 · April 9, 2020

On 4/8/2020 at 10:37 AM, goaliewales14 said:

Hey guys! I know it's been pretty slow with everyone being on lockdown, but if you're looking to get some more questions answered these shafts, @Fujikura Golf setup a Q&A. Here's the question I posted, but you should jump in and post some of your own!

Thanks for the shout out!

April 8, 2020

45 minutes ago, Brandon M said:

Yah I am planning to once my fitter opens back up... they are a charter dealer... any other shafts besides the Ventus black to try? I like the E/I profile and results of the pro 2.0ts but it does lack in the feel department.

I would also suggest Motore X F1. It is going to give you a great option between 2.0 TS and Ventus Black. For more info, check out the link on Motore X. Harry Nodwell is a big fan of this in his driver as well!

https://fujikuragolf.com/woods/motore-x

Thanks!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

Kenny B · April 8, 2020

On 4/6/2020 at 5:27 PM, Kenny B said:

Thanks for chiming in. As I stated earlier in this thread, I have a slower swing speed <90mph. I should probably play senior flex shafts, but I like the feel of heavier shafts so I play whatever manufacturer says is their regular flex. I tried lightweight driver shafts <50g but I lose control. I hit nearly all fairways with my Aldila NV 65-R, but lighter shafts... not so much.

Question 1: Is it impossible to make a 65g high launch "senior" flex driver shaft? Or is it that OEMs don't see a need to build this shaft for seniors?

Question 2: Maybe I missed it on your website, but is there something like an 85-90g high launch "senior" graphite shaft for .355 hosel? I would like to go to a senior flex graphite but I can't play lightweight graphite shafts. So I am currently playing Nippon N.S. Pro Zelos 8 steel shafts in regular flex. I've been told by a fitter these play more like a Ladies flex.

Hi Kenny - hope these answers help!

Q1: Without knowing your swing or numbers I will say this - Your speed is in the R2 (Senior) to R flex range but I would lean towards the R flex (if you're closer to 90mph). However, if you are wanting a 60g Senior flex we do have an option for you in the PRO 2.0 line - PRO 2.0 6-R2.

Q2: Our iron shafts are a .370 parallel but most of our dealers can taper without an issue. That being said, our PRO and Vista PRO iron shafts are offered in one-length blanks making it possible to hard/soft step and dial in the flex you need. I would suggest that you try the PRO Iron 85i in an R-Flex.

Thanks for your question!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

April 8, 2020

On 4/7/2020 at 1:59 PM, Brandon M said:

I noticed there is a little bit of weight difference is the 2. is the a TX Ventus black that you can order?

Brandon M -

The weight difference is about 4 grams between the two if I'm understanding your question correctly. There is not a TX version in the Ventus line. I would recommend you try both once we are able to get out and do so. PRO 2.0 TS has seen quite a bit of play over the last two years but Ventus with VeloCore has been a game changer for many. As always, we recommend you visit one of our Charter Dealers to optimize your performance. Here's the link to our Dealer Locator in case you were wondering what shops carry Fujikura in your area:

https://fujikuragolf.com/dealer-locator

Hope this helps and thanks for your questions!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

PMookie · April 8, 2020

22 hours ago, PMookie said:

1.)
I had an AD-DI 85X in my Callaway X2 Hot Pro 20* hybrid, and loved it. I sold the shaft, but now want a replacement. I have a 115 mph driver swing speed, and want a similar profile shaft to put back into the hybrid.
Suggestions? I’d rather a mid-to-high ball flight for max carry.
2.)
How do I buy a Fujikura hat? I play a Ventus Black 7X in my Honma driver, so I’d love to sport a Fuji hat as well!!!

As far as keeping my game in shape, I’ve been hitting at the range (when open), into my net on the back patio, using PuttOUT on the carpet in my bedroom, and using an impact bag. I’ve been submitting video to my coach as well.
Thanks!!!!

PMookie -

Concerning your hybrid question, I would suggest Atmos TS HB Blue 8X and/or PRO 2.0 HB 8X as a starting point. I believe you'll find a slightly higher launch with the PRO 2.0 and it may feel slightly softer than the Atmos TS HB Blue. The Atmos TS HB Blue will give you a slightly stiffer feeling handle/butt section which you may like based on your speed.

Thanks for playing Ventus in the driver! I'm a big fan of it as well!

We do not currently sell hats/gear but we are working on some things to maybe make that possibility one day, stay tuned!

Hope this helps, thanks for your support!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

twyatt700 · April 7, 2020

1 hour ago, twyatt700 said:

Do you make custom shafts for tour pro's or do they play the same shafts available on the market?

Twyatt700 - thanks for your question!

Tour players are using the same aftermarket shafts that are available to you. We have created heavier/stiffer options of a profile to accommodate a tour player's need or request, but there is no difference in the design, materials or composition except to make it heavier or stiffer.

Hope this helps!

- AT, Fujikura Golf

Golfspy_CG2 · April 7, 2020

2 hours ago, bens197 said:

I’d like to bump this question as I am wondering the same. Thank you!

The main difference is Ventus has VeloCore with superior materials in the full length bias core (pitch 70 ton) and should yield better dispersion than Motore X for most golfers. Motore X has a torsionally stiffened handle section that should yield more clubhead acceleration and speed for most golfers.

Also Ventus is $350 MSRP and Motore X is $275.

-eric

April 7, 2020

On 4/6/2020 at 11:42 AM, RickyBobby_PR said:

All things being equal what amount of spin difference would there be between ventus blue 6x and blue 6s?

stiffer flex should generally yield slightly lower spin, but this is a tough one to answer and is splitting hairs, we're talking probably less than 100 rpm difference.

-eric

cnosil · April 7, 2020

26 minutes ago, twyatt700 said:

I've been able to play a few times and my club has taken a lot of precautions to keep people safe. I'm still working so just trying to take care of my patients and keep them safe. Been watching a lot of old Masters tournaments and No Laying Up on YouTube.

I work in prosthetic and therefore use a lot of carbon fiber products so what I've always wondered is how the shafts are manufactured, are they prepreg or a wet lamination? What layups are used and materials in the shafts themselves. I'm excited for this Shaft U, hopefully some of those questions will be answered!

Take a read through the production article: https://mygolfspy.com/shaft-u-production-process-101/

And watch this video https://youtu.be/nnlCnXMlQB0

-eric

Golfspy_CG2 · April 7, 2020

2 hours ago, Brandon M said:

So I just made a switch to a ping G410 plus driver to try based on the MGS 2020 driver test. I have a Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS 6X in it at the moment and it is a pretty darn stout shaft. What would be the benifit of going to a Ventus black?

Ventus black should promote better center face contact and help your dispersion. Compared to PRO 2.0 TS they have similar EI profiles so they should feel similar but PRO 2.0 is more counterbalanced than Ventus. Ventus Black is definitely stout, but does not feel like rebar due to higher quality materials and VeloCore.

RickyBobby_PR · April 6, 2020

On 4/3/2020 at 5:36 PM, conted said:

Hi Eric, thank you for your response. I’m not quite following the response of “different machines”. Is cycles per minute (“CPM”) an objective or subjective measurement/ number? If objective, then why can this number not be measured consistently, i.e., speed/radar gun or a scale? If this is the case, how do companies have machines that do not measure correctly and stay in business? If you’re saying that CPM is a subjective number, can you please explain why.
Thanks!

On 4/4/2020 at 1:51 PM, RickyBobby_PR said:

They are physically different machines. Iirc from my visit to a couple different brands there are differences in how they measure as well.

Sorry for any confusion. Yes, different machines altogether thus the CPM could be different from one machine to another.

-Eric

RickyBobby_PR · April 6, 2020

We'll chime in here - We make the widest range of shafts in the industry including those for seniors.We have iron shafts ranging from 45 gram R3 flex to 115 Tour X.

Our Vista Pro line has a range of weights and flexes that will surely impress and our fitters love the flexibility. Please have a look here: https://fujikuragolf.com/woods/vista-pro

Let us know if you have any questions! We're here to help and support.

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