Sluggo42 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Getting old sucks- Approaching 62. So while at Dicks today i tried a few different 7 irons. I really liked the M1, altho they didn't have a lot to choose from there. But then I noticed it had a regular shaft. My swing speed with the 7 was around 75-77 mph. So the sales guy told me i was on the edge of regular to Senior shafts! What a shock! My mizzies have KBS tour stiffs in them. And I haven't been as crisp lately... Maybe its time i make the move to regulars. Boo-Hoo... TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Getting old sucks- Approaching 62. So while at Dicks today i tried a few different 7 irons. I really liked the M1, altho they didn't have a lot to choose from there. But then I noticed it had a regular shaft. My swing speed with the 7 was around 75-77 mph. So the sales guy told me i was on the edge of regular to Senior shafts! What a shock! My mizzies have KBS tour stiffs in them. And I haven't been as crisp lately... Maybe its time i make the move to regulars. Boo-Hoo... The old mare ain't what she use to be Shafts are becoming such an interesting animal to me. I had no clue there are so many possibilities in the shaft market. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anyone who has a favorite R shaft, write it in here. I have no idea other than a stock offering.. TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anyone who has a favorite R shaft, write it in here. I have no idea other than a stock offering.. I'd rather get fit for a shaft over a head. One size doesn't fit all. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I dropped to a regular flex in my driver a few months back and it seems to have helped with distance and dispersion XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anyone who has a favorite R shaft, write it in here. I have no idea other than a stock offering.. I will say stay tuned for the Matrix MFS Shaft review thread as I'm sure there will be plenty of info to help you make a educated decision. One thing I will add for now is not all shafts are created equal. Even among the same name brand. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anyone who has a favorite R shaft, write it in here. I have no idea other than a stock offering.. If you like the feel of the stiff shaft, then maybe try something much lighter. KBS tour stiff weigh around 125g, maybe find some graphite in 85g or a steel in 95 or something. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Give the Modus 105 a try in S, has a R feel to me. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Getting old sucks- Approaching 62. So while at Dicks today i tried a few different 7 irons. I really liked the M1, altho they didn't have a lot to choose from there. But then I noticed it had a regular shaft. My swing speed with the 7 was around 75-77 mph. So the sales guy told me i was on the edge of regular to Senior shafts! What a shock! My mizzies have KBS tour stiffs in them. And I haven't been as crisp lately... Maybe its time i make the move to regulars. Boo-Hoo... Welcome to the "senior" reality! I'm going to be 71 in 2 months and I did the similar, tried new clubs/shafts. I AM now waiting for my new irons and SENIOR shafts. My swing speed was a couple mph less than yours. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 If you like the feel of the stiff shaft, then maybe try something much lighter. KBS tour stiff weigh around 125g, maybe find some graphite in 85g or a steel in 95 or something. yes- the R shaft i was swinging today was a 95. my other thoughts were leaning to a bit more forgiving head than the MP-64's Ive heard so many good reports from the Wilson FG6 (i think) that Ill probably just get a new 6-PW set. Ill probably be spending a little time at Roger Dunns in the next few weeks... Momma is not gunna be happy... heheh TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 Oh, and I forgot to add_ Is there a point of diminished returns where a R shaft will actually match/ or beat the distance with a S shaft, due to the extra kick of the R shaft? TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtracymog Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 You shouldn't looking at a senior flex for a while. Usually low 70s to high 60s gets you toward a senior flex, generally speaking. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Cortex w/MGS Motore X F1 7X tipped 1" F5 17 degree hybrid w/Rogue Black 85X C300 Forged 3-5 w/C-Taper 130X FG Tour V6 5-6 w/C-Taper 130X Staff Model Blade 7-PW w/C-Taper 130X RTX4 52, 56, 60 w/S400 Tour Issue ER7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty1885 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I think the function of shaft flex is also determined by the type of swing you have regardless of swing speed. Remember reading about Nick Price's swing and John Daly's swing, Nick was using 2 level stiffer than Daly even at a lower swing speed be cause he has much faster change in direction than a smoother swinger Daly. Personally, I use it as a tool to feel the club head. Tour stiff shafts feel like a pole to me even when the shaft flexes and bends similar to stiff or reg flex visually on a slomo, but it just feels dead in my hand. I'm now a fan of UST recoil series. I have a couple of models. I tried a few different models out with different shaft weight. I was looking for a lighter shaft so I went with the light weigh option. Recoil series offers 2 different R stiffness, in many models and the ES model sounds like it would be a good fit for you. It stands for Enhanced Stability, stiffer tip feel a bit stiffer than the regular R shaft. You can tipped it to fit either .355 or parallel .370. Looks great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 You and I are very close in age Sluggo - I went through this a bit earlier than you. At around 50 I bought a 3w with an R shaft at the advice of my pro who was doing the same thing. In this case it wasn't for distance it was for trajectory. In my early 50's I went to graphite in my irons and than R flex in the irons at around 55. I had my lowest sustained GHIN at that point 1.2. I started having heart issues a couple of years later and also had pneumonia. I lost club head speed and have been straight R ever since. I know someone made a comment about a particular S flex feeling like R. Don't be fooled by that - feel is deceptive. If you are sticking with your MP64's I'd go get a few swings on the shaft optimizer (I'm not a huge fan but it would give you a starting point). The Wilsons are really nice - I have the C200's but you don't seem to need to go for that amount of extra distance. Let us know how it goes! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10shot Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I use the recoil in some shafts and KBS 105 in my 6,5,4. I,m 56 still pushing 93-96 swing. I did'nt go with 1/2" longer cuz of swingweight I just added tungston power to my epoxy on the Recoil 65's. But yes, shaft changes at older ages is and will continue to hapen. Sent from my SM-G930V using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I use the recoil in some shafts and KBS 105 in my 6,5,4. I,m 56 still pushing 93-96 swing. I did'nt go with 1/2" longer cuz of swingweight I just added tungston power to my epoxy on the Recoil 65's. But yes, shaft changes at older ages is and will continue to hapen. Sent from my SM-G930V using MyGolfSpy mobile app I was that same range when I was 56. Don't get sick! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrookseyNZ Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Regular are just a little lighter, that's about it. Lighter the better Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Okay so I thought about this thread today as I hit balls. My 5 hybrid flies high 160's and runs out to 175 plus (in normal Florida summer conditions on a green that is fairly firm). My 6 iron flies high 140's and runs out to 155 or so). My 7 iron carries low 140's and runs out to 148. That was very similar to the numbers that I got with the 7 iron in my iron fitting a couple of weeks back (I averaged 144 carry - 150 total). Clearly I have a gapping issue. I grabbed my old 5 hybrid out of the closet - its 27 degrees. My current one is 25 degrees. So I have the following options - buy a 6 through 9 iron of some type with stronger lofts (I have a SCOR 44 in the closet that would go in). Have my current 6 bent two degrees and 7 iron 1 degree stronger. Try subbing in the old five hybrid for the six iron and seeing if it's a better gap. If so consider option one or two with 7,8 rather than 6,7. If I go that last way I will probably buy 3 new irons that are a bit more players type. Right now the only clubs I'm not crushing (for me) are putter (because I don't want to) and 6 iron. Eliminate that gap and lack of consistency and find some more time to play and I could really lower my handicap again. I'm very excited about where my game is at. I'm not likely to find the time but just knowing that I could do it makes me feel better about golf. My original though Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Kev, is there any chance you can play a 5i or some sort of hybrid-iron? Think a one off SGI. If you can hit it, that might solve your gap issue then play various flights with your 4 hybrid to cover the gap above that since you won't shoot at greens as often with the 4. Besides that, I'd go for the option of bending the lofts stronger because it's the most cost effective and you're already comfortable with them. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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