hartrick11 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I just upgraded from Vokey SM5 wedges (54 M,60 M) to Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth (54 SS, 58 ES) last month. Have played 3 rounds + 2 range sessions so far and the ES grind is a dream out of bunkers, but my dispersion on full shots has been all over the map with both clubs. I don't change equipment too often but I have historically not had significant adjustment periods. I'm probably just playing poorly for a stretch and it should even out. My plan is to give it another month (3-4 rounds & 2-4 range sessions) but it got me curious about how long most people work with new equipment before they go back to their old sticks or buy something else. Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment
GB13 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I give it 10 rounds and however many practice sessions are in between them. It I can't figure it out after 10 rounds it is time to move on. I would expect for you that it is either a bad stretch or just an adjustment period. Are they the same specs as your old wedges? Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
PING Apologist #9 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I give it 10 rounds and however many practice sessions are in between them. It I can't figure it out after 10 rounds it is time to move on. I would expect for you that it is either a bad stretch or just an adjustment period. Are they the same specs as your old wedges? I'm echoing GB13 here on all accounts and he beat me to the same question. My first instinct was to ask if those were similar specs for you-especially where lie comes in. In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment
hartrick11 Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 I'm echoing GB13 here on all accounts and he beat me to the same question. My first instinct was to ask if those were similar specs for you-especially where lie comes in. Thanks for the feedback guys - I got the stock clubs for both but neglected to analyze the specs closely (I play Ping irons going back 8+ years so just assumed they would fit my game and let's be honest they just looked awesome and I couldn't say no). The length is the same, lie is a touch more upright for the Glides by 0.4* on the 54* and 0.6* on the 58* (I think - Titleist spec sheet rounds to 64* even whereas Ping shows 64.4* and 64.6*). The big difference is with swing weights as the Vokeys are both D5 while the Glides are D3 and D4. I got another range session in this afternoon and think I'm getting comfortable slowly, but may mess around with some lead tape to see if it makes a difference. Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment
NiftyNiblick Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In my experience, golf clubs differ from baseball gloves in that they arrive ready to play. The linkster him/herself needs the fine tuning. Link to comment
Will_Mac Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I don't switch clubs unless there's pretty much an immediate improvement. Maybe, to be sure, 3-4 rounds of comparative play with my present club(s). If I have to develop confidence in a club, I immediately lose interest and move on. Link to comment
GB13 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I don't switch clubs unless there's pretty much an immediate improvement. Maybe, to be sure, 3-4 rounds of comparative play with my present club(s). If I have to develop confidence in a club, I immediately lose interest and move on. I don't know about this. There is always a learning curve for me. If I had gone by this philosophy, I would have gotten rid of my current putter. After about 12 rounds and many practice sessions, I learned the speed and line, and it is now vastly outperforming my old putter. I have never had a club that I have instantly had confidence in. I need to develop based on prior results. Meaning I need to see good results to have confidence in a club. If I don't see good results I don't have confidence in the club and then it gets removed. This probably varies person by person though. I need a lot of time with new clubs to evaluate and compare. You may only need a round or two and instantly have an desicion made. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
Will_Mac Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I don't know about this. There is always a learning curve for me. If I had gone by this philosophy, I would have gotten rid of my current putter. After about 12 rounds and many practice sessions, I learned the speed and line, and it is now vastly outperforming my old putter. I have never had a club that I have instantly had confidence in. I need to develop based on prior results. Meaning I need to see good results to have confidence in a club. If I don't see good results I don't have confidence in the club and then it gets removed. This probably varies person by person though. I need a lot of time with new clubs to evaluate and compare. You may only need a round or two and instantly have an desicion made. Absolutely, everyone is different. Maybe if I were willing to take the time with clubs to see if I could better acclimate myself to them, it would work out to my benefit. I sure can't discount that possibility. I only know that for me, I'm entirely unwilling to risk present performance for the hope of future success. Link to comment
EthanSterlingPrice Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm stubborn so I'll give it a while but I've never really kept track of how long to be completely honest. I am one of those guys that can have long adjustment periods if I'm not 100% sold from swing one or if there's a difference in weighting. There's only been two times I've quit on gear that comes to mind. I had been given a pair of shoes and just couldn't get used to the fit. Then I switched back to a previous driver after I finally admitted the newer one just didn't work for me. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment
hartrick11 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 I don't know about this. There is always a learning curve for me. If I had gone by this philosophy, I would have gotten rid of my current putter. After about 12 rounds and many practice sessions, I learned the speed and line, and it is now vastly outperforming my old putter. I have never had a club that I have instantly had confidence in. I need to develop based on prior results. Meaning I need to see good results to have confidence in a club. If I don't see good results I don't have confidence in the club and then it gets removed. This probably varies person by person though. I need a lot of time with new clubs to evaluate and compare. You may only need a round or two and instantly have an desicion made. Update - loving the glide wedges, and in this case it was shockingly not the arrows' fault. I think with irons, woods or putters in the past I have only become intrigued after seeing an immediate positive reaction when first hitting a new club (similar to Will_Mac), but in this case it was just love at first sight combined with a pretty worn out sand wedge. Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment
PING Apologist #9 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Update - loving the glide wedges, and in this case it was shockingly not the arrows' fault. I think with irons, woods or putters in the past I have only become intrigued after seeing an immediate positive reaction when first hitting a new club (similar to Will_Mac), but in this case it was just love at first sight combined with a pretty worn out sand wedge. Happy for you! Enjoy them, I sure have enjoyed mine! In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment
perseveringgolfer Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'm a believer that a new club or set should work instantly for you, especially if you have been fitted. You might not put a good swing on every shot (thats why we are amateurs) but if you need weeks or months to 'bed' in a set it probably means you are changing your swing to suit the clubs! Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment
GB13 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'm a believer that a new club or set should work instantly for you, especially if you have been fitted. You might not put a good swing on every shot (thats why we are amateurs) but if you need weeks or months to 'bed' in a set it probably means you are changing your swing to suit the clubs! For me it is more about confidence. I don't need 10 rounds to hit good shots with a club, I need ten rounds to see good shots, to build confidence. They may work right away but I don't have confidence in them right away. I am not sure if I am explaining myself well... Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
MaxEntropy Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'm a believer that a new club or set should work instantly for you, especially if you have been fitted. You might not put a good swing on every shot (thats why we are amateurs) but if you need weeks or months to 'bed' in a set it probably means you are changing your swing to suit the clubs! I've never had a formal fitting for anything, but I would assume you are correct - if it's properly fit, you should be good from the get go. As it is, I usually have a bit of an adjustment period to get used to things, except for the 3W I bought off the used rack. It worked beautifully from the start. Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment
jaskanski Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I rarely buy anything without first checking to see that it fits my game, so I don't really encounter this problem. Link to comment
txgolfjunkie Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 You could get fit and still have an adjustment period. You've been playing your old gamers for a year or so and then spend an hour getting fit...chances are you'll still have memories of how your old wedges performed. Who knows, the swing weight might be different than what you're used to. You might have a different flex/shaft in your wedges that might flight the ball higher or lower than what you've played the last few years. I think there's a learning curve by switching wedge brands. I've bounced around going from Scor to Vokey SM5 to Cleveland RTX3 to Callaway and each wedge took a month or so of practice and playing to get the yardages and ball characteristics down with each one. All this means is that you need to spend more time out on the course! Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment
Mr. 82 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Whenever I buy something new to replace something else, there is always an adjustment of my swing to the club, and each club is different in how long it takes for me to get a feel for something new. But normally within 2 or 3 rounds I am in a groove with a new club or clubs. Now my PING G400 driver was instant love, as from the first tee shot up until now I have been super excited to know it's in my bag. Best driver ever. It is kinda wierd though, as the longer the club, the quicker amount of time it takes for me to feel good about it. It's the short clubs that take the longest to get a feel for. And I gave up trying to blame the putter for my putting, because they all cause me consternation, so I've had the same putter in my bag for going on 15 years now. No amount of technology can fix what's between my ears. G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment
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