ole gray Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I'm still loving my Rogue ST Max. As for distance I don't see much if any improvement over my Epic Flash. The Flash is a bomber and hard to beat on distance gained. Hobert 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 2:26 PM, blackngold_blood said: More of the same today. I think it’s time to move on. I love the look of the head but it sets up closed to my eye and I really need a more open face. The only thing you could do is lower loft to open the face. Are you sure it’s not the shaft? I tested a lot of shafts and one shaft I had the case of snap hooks but with my current set up it’s soft fades all day long. GolfSpy_BNG 1 Quote Driver: TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Red TR 8X Hybrid: Sim 2 - 19 Hybrid Tensei Orange 90TX or Srixon ZX 2 Iron - ADDI 105X Irons: T200/T100S Black 4-AW - MMT 125TX Wedges: SM8 54.10S & 58.04T MMT 125TX (Soon to Test Toura Wedges with MMT 125TX) Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1X Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 2:26 PM, blackngold_blood said: More of the same today. I think it’s time to move on. I love the look of the head but it sets up closed to my eye and I really need a more open face. The joys of self fitting and/or tinkering. Trying to find the right feel and the performance. Lowering loft with current head or getting a lower lofted head to start with and then doing the same. not sure what shafts you have tried other than the rpg and the td but the Accra tz5 or 6 could be an option for what you want in a shaft. Potentially either tensei av raw white or the rogue white GolfSpy_BNG 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 hours ago, LeftyMatt89 said: The only thing you could do is lower loft to open the face. Are you sure it’s not the shaft? I tested a lot of shafts and one shaft I had the case of snap hooks but with my current set up it’s soft fades all day long. I have lower the loft with a green dot adapter and it was still closed to my eye. I know the lefts are swing related but my biggest concern was ball speed being lower than normal for me even on centered hits. Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: PXG Black Ops 8* or Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Grey 65/4 shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: T150 4-GW with Modus 105R Wedges: SM10 56M shaft TBD SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said: I have lower the loft with a green dot adapter and it was still closed to my eye. I know the lefts are swing related but my biggest concern was ball speed being lower than normal for me even on centered hits. You have launch monitor data? Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: The joys of self fitting and/or tinkering. Trying to find the right feel and the performance. Lowering loft with current head or getting a lower lofted head to start with and then doing the same. not sure what shafts you have tried other than the rpg and the td but the Accra tz5 or 6 could be an option for what you want in a shaft. Potentially either tensei av raw white or the rogue white I was getting good numbers with the Diamana ZF 50TX except ball speed. Feel was perfect with the shaft. Loaded just right and I was finding center face really well. It’s possible I just got a head on the lower end of the tolerances as centered contact and 110-113ss was only getting me 155bs. 2 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: You have launch monitor data? Not on me. But cliff notes above RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: PXG Black Ops 8* or Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Grey 65/4 shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: T150 4-GW with Modus 105R Wedges: SM10 56M shaft TBD SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said: I was getting good numbers with the Diamana ZF 50TX except ball speed. Feel was perfect with the shaft. Loaded just right and I was finding center face really well. It’s possible I just got a head on the lower end of the tolerances as centered contact and 110-113ss was only getting me 155bs. Not on me. But cliff notes above Going off memory right now Swing Speed 110-113 Ball Speed 155(best) Launch 13-15* Spin 2400 Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: PXG Black Ops 8* or Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Grey 65/4 shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: T150 4-GW with Modus 105R Wedges: SM10 56M shaft TBD SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, blackngold_blood said: Going off memory right now Swing Speed 110-113 Ball Speed 155(best) Launch 13-15* Spin 2400 Ball speed seems to be affected by strike location is my best guess. Your experience may differ, but with 110-113 I think it may help going heavier and shorter (if you’re playing stock 46ish length). i play LAGP AXS blue at 45.25 and it weighs closer to the 70 gram range. I find heavier helps me feel face more. I am surprised by the triple diamond looking closed, it looks very pleasing to my eye but that’s why we are all different. It may be time to try something else or try to get a new shaft to help center strikes more. out of curiosity which other heads are you considering? Quote Driver: TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Red TR 8X Hybrid: Sim 2 - 19 Hybrid Tensei Orange 90TX or Srixon ZX 2 Iron - ADDI 105X Irons: T200/T100S Black 4-AW - MMT 125TX Wedges: SM8 54.10S & 58.04T MMT 125TX (Soon to Test Toura Wedges with MMT 125TX) Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1X Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 From personal experience, I tried a Speeder TR 661TX recently for a few rounds, when it went well it was awesome but I had like 4-5 snap hooks and 3 went OB. Those are round killers. But if the head looks closed that will be hard to overcome I would think. Quote Driver: TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Red TR 8X Hybrid: Sim 2 - 19 Hybrid Tensei Orange 90TX or Srixon ZX 2 Iron - ADDI 105X Irons: T200/T100S Black 4-AW - MMT 125TX Wedges: SM8 54.10S & 58.04T MMT 125TX (Soon to Test Toura Wedges with MMT 125TX) Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1X Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, LeftyMatt89 said: Ball speed seems to be affected by strike location is my best guess. Your experience may differ, but with 110-113 I think it may help going heavier and shorter (if you’re playing stock 46ish length). i play LAGP AXS blue at 45.25 and it weighs closer to the 70 gram range. I find heavier helps me feel face more. I am surprised by the triple diamond looking closed, it looks very pleasing to my eye but that’s why we are all different. It may be time to try something else or try to get a new shaft to help center strikes more. out of curiosity which other heads are you considering? I just got a ST-G 220 to try out. Those numbers are from center strike via ball mark on face. I also play my driver at 44.75” normally. Anything over 45” and I’m all over the face. I never seem to get comfortable with 70g shafts for some reason. Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: PXG Black Ops 8* or Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Grey 65/4 shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: T150 4-GW with Modus 105R Wedges: SM10 56M shaft TBD SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyMatt89 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, blackngold_blood said: I just got a ST-G 220 to try out. Those numbers are from center strike via ball mark on face. I also play my driver at 44.75” normally. Anything over 45” and I’m all over the face. I never seem to get comfortable with 70g shafts for some reason. Yeah I get that. I used to play at 44.5 then I went to 45.5 and didn’t notice much change in dispersion but settled on 45.25 after some more experimenting. That makes sense with weight, after going lighter I sometimes tinker with a tensei pro white 70tx and it is great until I need a nice smooth cut on 18 with the match on the line haha. GolfSpy_BNG 1 Quote Driver: TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X Fairway: TSi2 16.5 Ventus Red TR 8X Hybrid: Sim 2 - 19 Hybrid Tensei Orange 90TX or Srixon ZX 2 Iron - ADDI 105X Irons: T200/T100S Black 4-AW - MMT 125TX Wedges: SM8 54.10S & 58.04T MMT 125TX (Soon to Test Toura Wedges with MMT 125TX) Putter: Lajosi DD201 Pro V1X Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourKillingMeSmalls Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I recently purchased a used Autoflex 505x shaft with a Callaway tip on it from Cody and I put it on my new Rogue ST LS and lowered to 8 degrees loft and I have increased about 20 yards in carry but the biggest surprise is that it is actually more accurate, I can’t wait to see what it does when it warms up and the fairways get harder. mtcowdog and cnosil 2 Quote Paradym AI Smoke Max Ventus TR Blue 5S 3 & 7W 949 stiff 921 JPX Tour 5-W Stiff Nippon 120 MG4 Raw Grind 50, 56 & 60 Stiff Ping Anser 2 putter Pro V1 EZ Go 4 seater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zstokes Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Just got fitted at CC for and ordered the Rogue ST Max with a VA Nemesys 65 R. The dispersion was really quite something, nice and tight. My swing is quite broken at the moment, but if I can consistently get to 95mph club head speed, this game is going to become a lot more fun. Light blue (very old) gamer was all over the place. Red for the win. Edited May 4, 2022 by zstokes mtcowdog and Hobert 2 Quote Driver: Brnr MINI Driver | VA Nemesys 65 R Fairway metals: Rogue St Max 5 wood | VA Nemesys 65 R, Rogue St Max 7 wood | Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 60 R, Rogue St Max 9 wood | VA Nemesys 65 R Irons: P790 5-7, P770 8-P matched | True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 VSS +.5, 1 degree up Wedges: SM8 54 S10, SM 8 58 S10 | True Temper Dynamic Gold, SM9 48 F10 | True Temper Dynamic Gold Putter: Super Select Golo 6, 37" Matador large grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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