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This quest to play a knife is not for everyone I will be 100% honest when i first got this crazy idea to take the leap in play knifes I was very skeptical this was going to be a good decision. However I knew a couple of things that I wanted in my iron set that the AP2s just could not offer me.

 

First was the ability to feel where the ball was striking the face of the club, with a lot of players cavity you only can tell when it was hit good or poor not specific elements "that was two groove high on the face and a 1/4" towards the toe". This is important for me to be able to feel where the ball is hitting on the face so that i can make adjustments to my swing to get better contact on the ball, call it a training aid you have to hit a blade pretty well to get good results.

 

Secondly, i felt that the AP2 I just couldn't work the ball as much as I wanted to or as consistently, it was hard to dial in exact distances on partial swings at time for the fact that on a blade you can purposely hit it 1/2" towards the toe and take off 5 yards. Yes that sounds nuts and you might ask "why would you want to purposely miss the sweat spot of a club?" the answer is simple Spin and distance control you can still take a full swing but slightly miss the spot and change the ball flight characteristics.

 

Finally, I told myself that as a single digit handicap even a high one, if i can't hit the pure sweet spot then I probably need to stop playing golf, it is time to take the leap and see where it lands me in terms of skill and ability. Plus I played the Mizuno MP-60 LOVED the look and feel of the clubs those were pretty close to a blade without being one before I switched to the AP2s

 

I started out by just looking up as many blades as i could online and getting an idea of what I wanted to test hit based on appearance mostly. I went over to the PGA Superstore in Myrtle Beach SC prior to when i moved to NC recently. The Clubs they had included Nike VR Pro, Titleist 710 MB, Adams MB2, Mizuno MP69, Wilson FG62. I did not test the TM TP MB, Callaway Razer MB or Scratch SB-1. The scratch have a price tag that I wasn't willing to pay for a set $1200 plus tax all of the others that I tested were $900 plus tax. I am not sure if i saw the TM or Callaway's in the store, I'll admit I didn't look extremely hard in either of the sections that had those brands as I am not a fan of either one majority of the time. In hindsight i probably should have given both a chance if they had them in stock.

 

The PGA Super store is a super high volume store right near Broadway at the beach so they have A LOT of equipment on the racks and can custom order you anything. If you are an equipment junkie and go to myrtle beach stop in there and just look around at the sea of golf stuff they have in that store. Plus then they had radar based launch monitors to get a good compassion off of, they have now switched to the photograph based ones that are less accurate so be aware when testing clubs in there you need a base line for what you hit now compared to what you are testing.

 

I started where most people would Mizuno MP69 in the fitting cart with a KBS Tour X in it, I hit a 6iron to 195+ carry. This was my bench mark to compare all other blades that I would be testing. It is pretty well known that Mizuno makes some of the best feeling irons for under $1000.

 

I then hit the Titleist 710 and they felt WAY too firm for me, had a click sound to them at impact just all around not a good feeling blade even when hit pure in comparison to the MP69.

 

Next I went ahead and hit the Nike VR Pro Blades, I would rate these to have had a medium feel not firm but not supper buttery either. This was a good middle ground between the super soft blade and the firm click blade that the Titleist offered.

 

Afterwords, I then pulled out the Adams MB2 and hit that blade like pure S**T. I have to say that it was most likely the fact it had a KBS Tour Black S in it, WAY too soft of a shaft for me. I couldn't get a pure hit to save my life on those heads, the one or two I did get after a lot of tries felt really good. I would have to say with the proper shaft I would have to agree with the folks here at MGS that it is one heck of a good blade for the average golfer. It was softer feeling then the Nike but still not anywhere close to the soft feel of a Mizuno.

 

So My last club that I ended up hitting was a few days later from on a suggestion from the club builder that I go to in Myrtle Beach. He suggested the W/S FG62 at this point i was leaning towards the Mizuno MP69 for sure. I get the club off the rack it had a DG s300 in it still too soft a flex shaft but i can at least tolerate this one in comparison to the KBS Stiff shafts. First swing i purred it and OMG!!! I was blown away by how soft these irons felt. They feel just as good as the Mizuno MP69... So now the battle was on, I got the MP69 rebuilt from the fitting cart with the MP69, now it was down to two clubs everything else i tested got tossed out of my in consideration thinking. End the end W/S the little guy the unknown guy beat out the MP69 in the following categories.

--> Distance on center hits the FG62 was slightly better even with a too weak of a shaft for my swing.

--> Distance on slightly off center hits for the FG62 didn't lose as much distance in comparison to the MP69.

--> Feel on off center hits was amazingly butter soft but still you could tell that it wasn't exact for both clubs W/S felt only a touch better to me.

--> Workability on both clubs was amazing really couldn't tell you a clear winner on that category.

--> Appearance on both clubs is just sexy, they really engineered both heads to look amazing, this wasn't a factor at all when I made my decision.

--> Price tag wasn't really a factor either as they both retail at $900 this never came into my decision.

--> The offset on the FG62 is actually less then the MP69, win for W/S as I miss with a hook for this category.

 

If you have read my signature by now you know that i bagged the little guy W/S FG62 and here is how i ended up rating the blades I tested best to worse.

1) W/S FG 62 (offset, feel, distance gave it the slight win over the MP69)

2) Mizuno MP69

3) Adams MB2 (felt softer then the others the couple times i hit it good, offset is huge however on them so not for me anyways)

4) Nike VR Pro (yea this sucker preformed a lot better then i expected for a Nike brand club)

5) Titleist 710 MB (this was just too firm of a blade but if that is you thing check it out)

 

Here are the stats for the clubs that I researched before testing on the launch monitor in comparison to what i was hitting in the AP2 (2008 Model)

CLUB    LOFT    LIE    OFFSET    LENGTH    BOUNCE

Consistent Offset Models
Adams Idea Pro MB (1.5mm converted to inches)
3    21    60.5    0.059"    39.00"      IDK
4    24    61.0    0.059"    38.50"      IDK
5    27    61.5    0.059"    38.00"      IDK
6    31    62.0    0.059"    37.50"      IDK
7    35    62.5    0.059"    37.00"      IDK
8    39    63.0    0.059"    36.50"      IDK
9    43    63.5    0.059"    36.00"      IDK
P    47    64.0    0.059"    35.50"      IDK

Progressive Offset Models
Wilson Staff FG62
3    21    59.5    0.095"    39.25"      4.5
4    24    60.0    0.092"    38.75"      5.0
5    27    61.0    0.089"    38.25"      5.5
6    31    61.5    0.086"    37.75"      6.0
7    35    62.0    0.083"    37.25"      6.5
8    39    63.0    0.080"    36.75"      7.0
9    43    63.5    0.077"    36.25"      7.5
P    47    64.0    0.074"    35.75"      8.0

Mizuno MP-69
3    21    59.5    0.110"    38.75"      2.0
4    24    60.0    0.110"    38.25"      2.0
5    27    60.5    0.110"    37.75"      2.0
6    30    61.0    0.110"    37.25"      3.0
7    34    61.5    0.110"    36.75"      3.0
8    38    62.0    0.102"    36.25"      4.0
9    42    62.5    0.102"    35.75"      5.0
P    46    63.0    0.094"    35.30"      6.0

Mizuno MP-68
3    21    59.5    0.110"    38.75"      2.0
4    24    60.0    0.110"    38.25"      2.0
5    27    60.5    0.110"    37.75"      2.0
6    31    61.0    0.110"    37.25"      3.0
7    35    61.5    0.110"    36.75"      3.0
8    39    62.0    0.102"    36.25"      4.0
9    43    62.5    0.102"    35.75"      5.0
P    47    63.0    0.094"    35.30"      6.0

Mizuno MP-67
3    22    59.5    0.110"    38.75"      3.0
4    25    60.0    0.110"    38.25"      3.0
5    28    60.5    0.110"    37.75"      4.0
6    32    61.0    0.110"    37.25"      4.0
7    36    61.5    0.110"    36.75"      4.0
8    40    62.0    0.110"    36.25"      5.0
9    44    62.5    0.100"    35.75"      6.0
P    48    63.0    0.100"    35.50"      7.0

Nike VR Pro Blade
3    21    59.0    0.115"    39.00"      2.0
4    24    60.0    0.100"    38.50"      3.0
5    27    61.0    0.090"    38.00"      4.0
6    31    62.0    0.085"    37.50"      5.0
7    35    62.5    0.080"    37.00"      6.0
8    39    63.0    0.070"    36.50"      7.0
9    43    63.5    0.060"    36.00"      8.0
P    47    64.0    0.060"    35.75"      9.0

Titleist Muscle Back (MB)
3    21    60.0    0.125"    39.00"      2.0
4    24    61.0    0.120"    38.50"      3.0
5    27    62.0    0.115"    38.00"      4.0
6    31    62.5    0.110"    37.50"      4.5
7    35    63.0    0.100"    37.00"      5.0
8    39    63.5    0.090"    36.50"      6.0
9    43    64.0    0.080"    36.00"      7.0
P    47    64.0    0.075"    35.75"      8.0

Adams Idea Pro MB2 (given in mm I converted it to inches)
3    21    60.5    0.180"    39.00"      0.7
4    24    61.0    0.168"    38.50"      1.7
5    27    61.5    0.156"    38.00"      2.5
6    30    62.0    0.144"    37.50"      3.4
7    34    62.5    0.132"    37.00"      4.2
8    38    63.0    0.120"    36.50"      5.2
9    42    63.5    0.108"    36.00"      6.0
P    46    64.0    0.096"    35.50"      6.5

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Titleist AP2 (2008) --> http://www.titleist.com/golfclubs/irons/2008ap2.asp
3    21    60.0    0.160"    39.00"      0.0
4    24    61.0    0.145"    38.50"      1.0
5    27    62.0    0.130"    38.00"      3.0
6    31    62.5    0.120"    37.50"      4.0
7    35    63.0    0.110"    37.00"      5.0
8    39    63.5    0.100"    36.50"      6.0
9    43    64.0    0.090"    36.00"      7.0
P    47    64.0    0.085"    35.75"      8.0

 

The last few things that I want to add are that for high single digit handicap or the 10-15 guys DO NOT BE SCARED TO HIT A BLADE. The Mizuno MP69, Wilson FG62, Adams MB2 were all very easy clubs to hit, you could miss a 1/4" off and be only 2-3 yards short of sweet spot. You had to miss it really bad at more then 1/2" to see > 5 yards loss but that is with a players cavity as well. I can post some pictures of my equipment after this weekend if you all request it, I'll put it in the WIYB section.

 

I hope this has been helpful to anyone in the market for a new set of knives this season.

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Someday I shall!

My goal is to get to 10-ish by the end of this season... then we'll see :)

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Great review, if you did not like the Titleist than I would bet you do not like the Callaway MB. I actually have not hit the new Razr version, but I had some of the original TA Proto. On a cold morning, well, I knocked down a hybrid because it was the first hole, I was not warmed up yet, and I did not want to hit my beloved blade because I knew it would hurt. After I got warmed up it was ok but they were very harsh on mishits.

 

I like the older 695's and ZM and ZB. My ZB are the same as the ZM but have slight cavity back on the 3-5. Since I do not carry the 3 and 4 most of the time, the 5 is the only one that matters. I like hitting these long irons but I get more distance from hybrids so I have no need for them.

 

 

The Taylormade's are just stupid looking. They build this beautiful blade and then stick an ugly @$$ nut on the back of it. I have no idea what this is supposed to accomplish but it is the stupidest looking thing I have seen. It reminds me of that club that was here on another thread a month or so ago with the blue bead or what ever on the back.

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When I read this I was surprised the JMiller did not like the Titlsist MB's. He stated that they were way too firm for him. I thought that the Titleist ZB, an older version of them, were great.

 

Today, I played 36 holes with my ZB's. One of the guys on my team was playing with a set of Titleist 712 MB's. I hit his clubs a couple of time but did not like them much at all. they felt, for lack of a better term, too firm vs. soft and buttery. Now granted this was after I played 36 holes and than sat in the bar for about a half an hour waiting for the other teams to finish, but they sure did not feel like the older ZB's.

 

The heads felt heavier and I did like that but on contact with the ball it was more firm. I bought a set of KBS Tour 90 shafts that I am going to put in the ZB's to see how I like them.

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I hit the Titleist 710, just felt firm in comparison to others that i hit the firmest / click sound at impact out of all of them. From the sounds of it that the Titleist 712 feels about the same way.

 

I have never been a TM person (I owned the r7 Superquad 460 and the Rescue Dual TP nothing since then) so I didn't even give them a second look honestly but like i said if i had been open minded more I could have added them to the review.

 

I hate to say this but IMHO the W/S came out softer then the Mizuno and a little easier to hit but that might just be bias since I play them and have gotten them custom built at 1 degree flat (60.5* lie 6iron). W/S made a great product with the FG62 and are worth giving them a try if you are looking for a new set of blades.

 

I am not sure how the Titleist ZB play, I think those could have completely different feel then the new 710 and 712 MB models that they have out currently.

 

The main reason I wanted to write this review is to get people thinking about companies that they normally might not hit their product. When you are looking for something new BE OPEN MINDED you never know what gem you may uncover from hitting something that is off your radar.

 

So like I said the clubs I hit were (in no order) Adams MB2, Mizuno MP68, Mizuno MP69, Nike VR Pro Blades, W/S FG62. They had TM TP MB and Scratch in there at the time i was testing clubs but the Scratch was a $1200 price tag just a little over my wallet. TM and Callaway I didn't think about until writing this review.

 

I looked in the PGA Superstore I referred to in my review over the weekend since I was in Myrtle Beach again, the have the TM TP MB but not Razer x MB.

 

EDIT

It might be nice if the MGS crew got a hold of some MBs and put them to the test, I know that MGS has done review of the Adams MB2, would be nice to have some more blades to read about besides what i have written here.

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Thanks for the great review. I have been looking for some kind of feedback on the FG 62s for about a year now, as they are the best looking clubs I have ever seen. Glad to hears that they perform as well as they look, now I might have to give them a shot.

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Thanks for the great review. I have been looking for some kind of feedback on the FG 62s for about a year now, as they are the best looking clubs I have ever seen. Glad to hears that they perform as well as they look, now I might have to give them a shot.

 

No problem they are for sure worth a try, if you buy them make sure to do two things

1) get them fitted for loft and lie (one of my irons came out 1* weak to the lofts they were supposed to be) and also I had mine bent flat 60.5* lie on a 6iron, the set is 59.0, 59.5, 60.0, 60.5, 61.0, 61.5, 62.0, 62.5 currently, my wedges I play at 61.5 (on partial swings 62.5 is too upright for me) lie angles are tailored to you it's whatever fits your swing for that club.

 

2) make sure that they are not too long for you, the specs say they come in at a 39.25" 3iron which is 1/4" longer then normal for OEMs @ 39.00" 3 iron, I play them to the club builders standard at a 38.75" 3 iron and 1/2" step down to a 35.25" PW

 

 

EDIT, like i said in a previous post I think that they play SOFTER then Mizuno. That is a crazy statement to make for some people because Mizuno is often compared to Miura Blades in feel and being the standard. I really think that W/S hit this one out of the park. Great feeling, very workable, and pretty darn easy to hit for a blade.

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jmiller, I have been playing the MP-59s, though I just put my combo set(3i-6i MP-63,7i-PW MP-68) back in my bag..I have not hit the 69s..Other than the muscle pad being reconfigured, did you notice any discernable difference between them & the 68s?...Fairways & Greens 4ever...

 

Here are the key differences that I felt and saw in the clubs when i was testing them, from what I can recall.

--> The MP-69 is weighted better then the MP68, the 68 is more a players blade and the 69 offers slightly more forgiveness, for a blade.

--> The MP-69 will launch the ball just a little higher on the long irons (which you don't play anyways)

--> The feel of them both is the classic Mizuno feel, when hit on the sweet spot.

--> The MP-69 has 1* stronger lofts then the MP-68 (46* PW in the 69 versus a 47* in the 68, nothing that couldn't be changed) so if you leave them at stock lofts you will obviously hit the 69 longer by 2-4 yards.

--> If you wanted to go with the MP-69 they would have to get bent 1* weak form a 46* to a 47* PW, that would add about 1* of bounce to them so I am not sure how they would interact with the turf when doing that.

 

So My over all impression is that the MP-69 is a good blade for people looking to get into a blade that are not used to playing them. The weighting is better, the forgiveness is slightly better, the feel is the same as the MP-68 on pure hits.

 

The MP-68 is also a good blade for those people that are used to traditional blade weighting and traditional blade forgiveness. A lot of people hate the MP-68 and love the MP-69s I think it is a personal preference thing when it comes down to it. I didn't hit them enough to see much other then that. That is just from the 20-25 balls i hit in the testing with each one.

 

Honestly if your ball striking is good and you like the flight of the ball on the MP-68 then there is no real reason to run out and get the MP-69 just because they are new. But if you are struggling with the solid strike on the ball with the MP-68 then you can give the MP-69 a try for your low irons see if that helps you with the balance and weight change.

 

For people that want to play a split set that don't know this, you can custom order from Mizuno and W/S the set you need. For instance W/S will send you 4-6 in FG Tour V2 and 7-P in FG62 if you wanted.

 

If anyone has any other questions about blades I will try to answer them to my best ability, I currently playing the W/S FG62s and have the most playing time with that set then any other.

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I got to thinking about it, I am missing the Cobra MBs from this review as well. Not sure how they play but it seems a lot of people have them in one model or another. If someone has a good amount of experience with the TM TP MB, Callaway Razer X Mb, Cobra MB then feel free to add it here.

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Thanx much for the input on the 69s...I'm very happy with the 68s & you confirmed my thoughts on the 69s...My whole set is bent +2'/loft & cut 1/4" short off of stock & flattened 1/2' through the set...As I said, I've played Mizunos for some time & I really feel that the 68s are the best MB blade that they've released since the MP-33s, though that's just one man's opinion..I've arranged to hit the FG 62 tomorrow & depending on how the session goes, I may take 'em out for a round on Friday..Thanks again for the review & feedback, because while I loved the FG 17s, I wouldn't have thought to hit the 62s..I'm looking forward to it..Fairways & Greens 4ever...

 

no problem, you might be surprised at just how soft the W/S FG62 feels, like I said to me it feels softer then the Mizuno which is a very bold statement way off the common 'mizuno best feeling musclebacks under $1000' type mentality.

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I have been playing cavity backs the last couple of days, but as I was leaving the course today I saw a set of brand new Titleist MB's. I could not resist the opportunity, so after asking, I took the 6 iron out and wacked the ball a few times. Honestly, I loved them. They were very solid feeling. I was hitting range balls, but that was what I was hitting Saturday when I said it felt too firm. I will grant that it may not have felt as soft as some but these were long and straight and I felt very in control of the shots, I hit 15 balls and they were all in a 10 foot circle,

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great review. i think i finally have the swing this season to get to low 10s hope that happens and then i can really go venture into the MBs. i do think the Wilsons look very good

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I hit 15 balls and they were all in a 10 foot circle,

 

Oh yeah? I bet I can hit all 15 balls 50 yards apart from each other! :lol:

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I have been playing cavity backs the last couple of days, but as I was leaving the course today I saw a set of brand new Titleist MB's. I could not resist the opportunity, so after asking, I took the 6 iron out and wacked the ball a few times. Honestly, I loved them. They were very solid feeling. I was hitting range balls, but that was what I was hitting Saturday when I said it felt too firm. I will grant that it may not have felt as soft as some but these were long and straight and I felt very in control of the shots, I hit 15 balls and they were all in a 10 foot circle,

i bet the firm mbs u hit wld feel lk butter soft to me cus im used to the springy ping cast heads

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As for the Titleist feeling firm to me i was compering them to the Mizuno line as a base feel. Like i said Mizuno is regarded in the same sentence as Miura on feel so I figured it was a good place to start. If you notice all the irons I hit were forged. Everything is relative yes the Titleist MB would feel softer to someone in a cast club (unless it is cast carbon then that's not as bad).

 

 

I had a bad tempo day yesterday and hit a lot of balls off center on the W/S FG62s.

 

Some thin and it wasn't as much of a bell ringer as I expected. However, it was 80* F yesterday when I got off work so that might have soften the blow a few times. I also hit a few really high on the blade which didn't result in too bad of a distance robber that surprised me as well.

 

It was a day that was 'playable misses' and 'not my day' for scoring, but over all it gave me a good idea what they act like when you have a bad striking day which was 100 times better then i had expected from a MB club. We can play well 100% of the time we are not tour players and even those guys blow up to shot high 70s or low 80s at times.

 

The biggest difference between a players cavity and a MB is are

--> Players cavity has SLIGHTLY more forgiveness

--> MBs have SLIGHTLY lower trajectory

--> MBs generally are a SLIGHTLY easier to control shot shape and distances

--> MBs tend to dig more into the turf (they have narrow soles and sharper leading edges in general)

 

It comes down to your swing and your preference to what is better for your game. Diggers might not want the sharper thinner soles on a MB so they should stay in a players cavity. Pickers might also like a players cavity as it will help them launch the ball a little higher. I like MBs mostly because I change my angle of attack based on my shot I'm hitting.

 

For the W/S FG62 is gets into the turf really well without digging to deep on my normal swing, the AP2s for me tended to bounce a little bit and not feel really good to me on turf interaction (was better when I took a super step angle of attack more of a digging hit for the AP2s).

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Oh yeah? I bet I can hit all 15 balls 50 yards apart from each other! :lol:

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Truthfully, it was so close to dark I have no idea where they stop. But I will say that they all appeared to be headed right at the 200 yard marker. The range was closed, and the guy was out there chipping balls at the yardage marker. I walked out and talked to him and was out on the range not 200 yards from the marker. 10 feet may be an exaggeration but no more than the number of balls. It may have been 12 balls, or 14 balls, it may have 10 feet or even 40 feet but we are still talking feet. They all appeared to be around 10 feet or so of the sign. :D

 

 

 

 

 

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i know the "buttery feel".....just switched from Callaway X-24 Hot's to Mizuno MP-53's.

 

Man, the feel of a well struck ball last week was heaven!

 

Scored an 84, for 26 points and won $87 in a 3 way tie for first(40 players)in my saturday game.

 

I know my handicap is not yet a 0 - 14, like Mizuno suggests, but at a solid 17 through the Florida Winter, (my handicap is usually 20 then drops to 13 or 15 in mid-summer)I anticipate the possibility of 10 - 13 this year.

 

Anybody else gaming the MP-53's?

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i know the "buttery feel".....just switched from Callaway X-24 Hot's to Mizuno MP-53's.

 

Man, the feel of a well struck ball last week was heaven!

 

Scored an 84, for 26 points and won $87 in a 3 way tie for first(40 players)in my saturday game.

 

I know my handicap is not yet a 0 - 14, like Mizuno suggests, but at a solid 17 through the Florida Winter, (my handicap is usually 20 then drops to 13 or 15 in mid-summer)I anticipate the possibility of 10 - 13 this year.

 

Anybody else gaming the MP-53's?

 

Mizuno does something neat and gives people a GENERAL idea as to what handicap range they are targeted for. I personally have a 8-12 handicap currently.

 

I played to a 1.1 in college and over last 2 season only had a range pass and not a lot of time to play golf. My short game left me but my ball striking did not. So for me my iron striking is more on par with a 0-5 handicap (i think it has room for some improvements) then a 6-10 or 11-15. I think it is more individual then what Mizuno provides in their handicap charts.

 

If you have really good ball to face contact and don't miss the sweet spot very much on your current clubs then you can fit into something that is suggested to be "for lower handicaps" for instance a blade that we have been reviewing and talking about.

 

MP-53 is a good mix between a players cavity and a full cavity. I tend to like the MP-63 a touch more myself when it comes to their non blade models. I think that the MP-68 and MP-69 are great blades for what they are designed to do.

 

I haven't hit the W/S FG Tour V2 but I know that if it has some soft feel like the FG62 Blades I have then it has to be a great playing iron, If I were looking for a new Players cavity set then i would look at the W/S FG Tour V2... MGS has done a review on them here --> http://www.mygolfspy.com/wilson-fg-tour-v2-irons-review/

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i know the "buttery feel".....just switched from Callaway X-24 Hot's to Mizuno MP-53's.

 

Man, the feel of a well struck ball last week was heaven!

 

Scored an 84, for 26 points and won $87 in a 3 way tie for first(40 players)in my saturday game.

 

I know my handicap is not yet a 0 - 14, like Mizuno suggests, but at a solid 17 through the Florida Winter, (my handicap is usually 20 then drops to 13 or 15 in mid-summer)I anticipate the possibility of 10 - 13 this year.

 

Anybody else gaming the MP-53's?

 

Hi Foz --

 

Seriously considering the 53's...working through the process right now. Will also look at the 59's as well as the Wilson's. Gaming a Hogan Apex Plus set right now -- they're old but man do they feel sweet!

 

What tipped the scale for you for the Mizuno's?

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