MYGOLFSPY GETS FIRST LOOK AT 2023 GOLF EQUIPMENT | NO PUTTS GIVEN 127

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Duration: 00:49:20

In this episode, Chris and Tony dive in on MyGolfSpy's trip out west. We saw what's coming in 2023 from Titleist, PING, Taylormade, Fujikura, Evnroll, and Cobra. Now that we've seen and hit the offerings, are we more or less excited about the equipment landscape?

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[cnosil]

Have to agree with some of the comments on the YouTube post, 50 minutes of saying there are products coming out but we can’t really tell you anything about them; including the name, because they are embargoed.  I understand the desire to build excitement,  but not much value here.  Should have done this episode in January or when the products are released to give us your thoughts on what  you saw and tried during your travels.  

[MattF]

1 hour ago, cnosil said:

not much value here

Seems to be a trend.

[GolfSpy_APH]

I've noticed this trend with several youtube channels and sm platforms teasing the new equipment and blurring out the new stuff in videos. 

I get that many have had early access and it is part of building hype, however there are a ton of leaks out there if someone really wants to find them. Personally I am more than fine with waiting to see them when the OEM's are ready. I would be surprised if there was any true game breaking tech that comes out. It seems like it will be another year or growth on current tech vs introduction of any crazy new tech. I'll be happy to be proven wrong and although I am always excited to see the new equipment I have to wait and test when they come to stores. Plus the chances of me dropping full launch price on a new driver or set of irons is slim. 

[goldenhawk]

This is all old news.  We have seen all and even tested some of the new gear.  There are pictures everywhere.  If this is supposedly a spy site for new gear, you all are well behind the others.  But I guess that is how you all roll these days.

Since you all restrict me from posting pictures of any of the new stuff, the only thing worth saying is that the TSR line up is the only thing the lives up to the hype.

[cnosil]

1 hour ago, goldenhawk said:

This is all old news.  We have seen all and even tested some of the new gear.  There are pictures everywhere.  If this is supposedly a spy site for new gear, you all are well behind the others.  But I guess that is how you all roll these days.

MGS is now more about challenging the claims manufacturers makes about their equipment and not finding and posting pictures of yet to be released equipment.  

 

you can read more about what they try to do here:  https://mygolfspy.com/our-mission/

 

[TylorJudd]

1 hour ago, goldenhawk said:

This is all old news.  We have seen all and even tested some of the new gear.  There are pictures everywhere.  If this is supposedly a spy site for new gear, you all are well behind the others.  But I guess that is how you all roll these days.

Since you all restrict me from posting pictures of any of the new stuff, the only thing worth saying is that the TSR line up is the only thing the lives up to the hype.

If it is such a waste of your time, why watch or even use energy posting like that?

[Golfspy_CG2]

8 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I've noticed this trend with several youtube channels and sm platforms teasing the new equipment and blurring out the new stuff in videos. 

I get that many have had early access and it is part of building hype, however there are a ton of leaks out there if someone really wants to find them. Personally I am more than fine with waiting to see them when the OEM's are ready. I would be surprised if there was any true game breaking tech that comes out. It seems like it will be another year or growth on current tech vs introduction of any crazy new tech. I'll be happy to be proven wrong and although I am always excited to see the new equipment I have to wait and test when they come to stores. Plus the chances of me dropping full launch price on a new driver or set of irons is slim. 

I'm with you here.   I've seen too many times when the USGA pictures pop up around the web that people overreact to how bad or how bland something looks.  Those are just for USGA design approval, not the final retail product. 

I'm fine with the teasing, I do think Tony and Chris spent a bit too much time saying what they can't say.  we are all adults and would have understood a disclaimer up front that nothing new can be talked about, but then go on and talk about what you hope to see, not try to talk around what you can't talk about.    To be fair they are not the only ones that do that, but it seems like they did it to excess, a 49-minute video that probably should have been a 10-minute highlight recap of who they visited and setting the stage for the January launches. 

[cnosil]

13 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I'm fine with the teasing, I do think Tony and Chris spent a bit too much time saying what they can't say.  we are all adults and would have understood a disclaimer up front that nothing new can be talked about, but then go on and talk about what you hope to see, not try to talk around what you can't talk about.    To be fair they are not the only ones that do that, but it seems like they did it to excess, a 49-minute video that probably should have been a 10-minute highlight recap of who they visited and setting the stage for the January launches. 

Well said!

[goldenhawk]

11 hours ago, cnosil said:

MGS is now more about challenging the claims manufacturers makes about their equipment and not finding and posting pictures of yet to be released equipment.  

 

you can read more about what they try to do here:  https://mygolfspy.com/our-mission/

 

If your mission is to challenge the claims of the OEMs, then why bother testing the new stuff.  The answer is usually that the claims are always false.  And why do the OEMs even bother to send gear to test here.  It seems to go against their marketing strategy.

[GolfSpy_APH]

On 12/17/2022 at 3:48 AM, goldenhawk said:

If your mission is to challenge the claims of the OEMs, then why bother testing the new stuff.  The answer is usually that the claims are always false.  And why do the OEMs even bother to send gear to test here.  It seems to go against their marketing strategy.

I would say most OEM claims are partial truths. They are and can be true for some golfers vs others. 

Consumer knowledge is also higher i would argue (thank you mgs) and most don't go in to a new driver from the previous years expecting 15-20 more yard. 

The point of testing and trying the equipment is to inform the consumer and tell a story about what they have found to be true with the product. 

Oems want the clubs in the hands of mgs as well as other outlets to get hype about the products which will help sell more. 

[goldenhawk]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

I would say most OEM claims are partial truths. They are and can be true for some golfers vs others. 

Consumer knowledge is also higher i would argue (thank you mgs) and most don't go in to a new driver from the previous years expecting 15-20 more yard. 

The point of testing and trying btw equipment is to inform the consumer and tell a story about what they have found to be true with the product. 

Oems want the clubs in the hands of mgs as well as other outlets to get hype about the products which will help sell more. 

Only a clueless golfer would believe those claims made by TM, Callaway and the others.  Since I started playing in the late 19902, I should be driving over 400 yards by now if TM and Callaway are to be believed.  Partial truths?  No way.  That's a cop out on you all's part.  No real gray area.  Its yes or no.  Partial truth...qualifies as a no.

[GolfSpy_APH]

18 hours ago, goldenhawk said:

Only a clueless golfer would believe those claims made by TM, Callaway and the others.  Since I started playing in the late 19902, I should be driving over 400 yards by now if TM and Callaway are to be believed.  Partial truths?  No way.  That's a cop out on you all's part.  No real gray area.  Its yes or no.  Partial truth...qualifies as a no.

Why can't something that is said by any OEM have an impact on one golfer vs another? Isn't that part of getting fit and testing? 

Of course if we add up all the claims as a whole the sum does not equal out. However OEMs have gotten better at saying expect to see 1 or 2 mph ball speed here and there. In addition when they talk about speed gains or distance gains it's normally centered around off center strikes. 

Anyway, everyone allowed to have your opinion(s) as well as thoughts. I'm glad we see MGS and all others go out and test and write about the new kit so it can better help my buying decisions. I enjoy reading about the new advances companies are trying to make and appreciate all the work that goes into club Design and more. The marketing side will be what it is. After all it is a business and they want/need to sell clubs. Often not their fault golfers are obsessed with distance vs accuracy so good on them for targeting what we will buy into. After all any increase is still a increase.

[TylorJudd]

20 hours ago, goldenhawk said:

Only a clueless golfer would believe those claims made by TM, Callaway and the others.  Since I started playing in the late 19902, I should be driving over 400 yards by now if TM and Callaway are to be believed.  Partial truths?  No way.  That's a cop out on you all's part.  No real gray area.  Its yes or no.  Partial truth...qualifies as a no.

I can't understand why you play golf?