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More SAHB. I remember watching this on TV with my parents.... with their astonished faces...lol.

 

 

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Before they were SAHB.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Rickp said:

Now that’s um different….

SAHB is one of my favorites. Cleveland made them famous in Ohio when SAHB played the Cleveland Agora in 1974. There is no other band like them.... and likely never will be.

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On 4/23/2023 at 6:50 PM, DiscipleofPenick said:

See I'm up on the west side of Cleveland, and there's some real dumps that charge $45 for 18+cart on a weekend morning. So to me, while that is a little towards the high side, it's not unreasonable to pay $50 for a quality course on a weekend.

I understand. I've played some courses in Cleveland. Manakiki stands out as a great course, IMO. Worth the money. Most courses in my area are $35 to $38 on weekends with a cart. There are some outliers, but they are not the norm. Turkeyfoot is a really fun course, but I just don't see the justification for $50 greens fees for it.... other than it's close to Firestone.

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9 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

In Florida $50. is cheap and typical for a low end course. 

I get it, but this is Ohio. $50.00 is not cheap here... at least not in the area I live in (Turkeyfoot). Not outrageous, but not cheap either. I don't mind paying if the course matches the price. Turkeyfoot is no way worth $50, IMO.

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[Bringing my kids to the course]

I love to see dads out with their kids when I'm playing. To me, that's just good stuff. Any time kids are with their parents, outside, doing something worth while, is good. Pace of play isn't an issue in my experience. I've always been told to play through.... no big deal. I say bring em' with ya!

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On 4/20/2023 at 4:06 PM, gmmiddle said:

Wow. Such a deal

Right. I love Turkeyfoot, but I refuse to pay their rates. It's a fun course, but it isn't worth $50.00 greens fees, IMO. For $12.00 more, I can play Chippewa.... a much better golf course.

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3 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

That is something I just don't understand. I play 18 holes in a cart in 2 hours and 15 minutes. I play 18 holes walking in 2 hours and 30 minutes. I'm not running either at my age. They must not be playing ready golf and probably spending more time stationary chatting instead of walking and chatting. 

I usually have no problem with walkers. These guys couldn't hit the ball more than 30 yards at a time. Obviously new players.... and that isn't a problem either. But... they all stayed together instead of going to their own ball... like lost puppies following each other...lol.

It was a nice day, so we just enjoyed the time out on the course. We just laughed because we always get behind  players like this..... it's just a given whenever we play, for some reason. I guess I'm just saying that walkers aren't always faster.... and carts aren't always slower or a bad thing.

Something I've been pondering: How much more would greens fees be if everyone walked and there was no revenue from carts?

 

 

 

 

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My brother and I were behind a 4 some of walkers today. Damn.... what a long day it was.

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My favorite song of my favorite band... Led Zeppelin....... the original........

 

 Another version................ there are many.

 

 

My girl

 

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Back to my metal roots. A favorite band for many years.

 

 

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This evening finds me sipping a few pours of Caol Ila Scotch and perusing a bunch of female atrists that I've liked over the years. 

 

This is Mean Mary.... Banjo player.

 

 

 

 

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Southern Rock night.... sippin' Wild Turkey 101. My favorite Southern Rock band.

 

 

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Callaway X 12

Mizuno MX 25

Mizuno MP 64 (current)

Started playing at 38... 63 now. I just never saw the need for new irons every couple of years. I do want a new set of Mizuno Pro 223's though. 

 

 

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18 hours ago, Bob Pegram said:

Yeah. I play worse in a cart. It wrecks my rhythm of my game. Walking off the yardage while walking to the ball, having all my clubs with me and not worrying about leaving a club or two behind, having my towel with me, etc., etc. lets me concentrate on the golf, not grabbing things I will need when I get to my ball, having to walk sidewys to my ball, the fast, slow, fast, slow, start, stop of a cart.

Okay. And those of us that prefer a cart ruin the game... right?

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3 hours ago, GPS111 said:

Sorry but I have to disagree.  Carts have been around on courses longer than almost all of us have been playing.  If you follow the course rules and playing conditions they don't ruin anything any more than a few thousand walkers or mowers cutting can do.  If it is cart path only, stay on the path.  If a 90 degree rule, use it.  It is not the carts but inconsiderate drivers that can "ruin" the course.  

Conversely, I've seen more mowers and groundskeepers "ruin" the course as well.  Poorly cut, deep piles of clippings left on the course, edges of bunkers driven over and cut by mowers and I can go on.  So add "bad course maintenance" to the inconsiderate cart users. 

"Ruin" a course cuts both ways.  In the end, what they do to a course can all be fixed.  And for what it's worth I've never seen a cart ruin the edge of a hole like hundreds of foursomes can.

Ummm..... yea. I think that's why I bolded the "ruin the game" part and responded with the roll eyes emoticon.

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11 hours ago, Kevin Fleury said:

I am an Assistant Superintendent at a golf course.  Myself the other assistant and the Superintendent all walk everywhere unless carts are mandatory.  Carts have ruined the game and the turf!

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I've been a huge fan of her for years. Beth doing a Zeppelin song I never thought anyone could do... and do it justice. Beth kills it.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

Any qb can run, but few can run like Mike Vick. When I say run for 3 TDs that's not qb sneaks. It's a unicorn to run like a WR and throw 60 yard dimes. Even Josh Allen, Mahomes, etc don't have the foot speed I'm talking about when I say unicorn.

I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is: running QB's in the NFL have a very short shelf life. The NFL is not college. Every player on an NFL roster is head and shoulders above college players. The Defensive players in the NFL are miles better than what any college QB has had to face. A running QB in the NFL is just a play away from being done... period.

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1 hour ago, richk9holes said:

The optimal QB I'd want in the offense I would want to run would be able to do both well, but they are rarer than unicorns.

It isn't necessarily rare. A QB should only run if he has to, or if he has a lane to gain the yards needed. It's always a good thing to have a QB that CAN run, but only if he has to..

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5 hours ago, richk9holes said:

Building the team in the trenches and operating your offense through a guy who can run for 3 TDs but might throw 0 any given day has been successful in the past. Tim Tebow's Jets and Vince Young's early years on the Titans come to mind as well.

I agree to a point. The problem is that 'running QB's' are short lived in the NFL. Look at RG3. Lamar Jackson is often injured. The NFL is a different animal than college.......... all of the defensive players are large, fast and athletic. Not a good thing for a QB that makes a living with his legs.