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EasyPutter · March 31

Thanks! Pretty cool having a birthday on Easter this year.

March 1

My family is taking a week-long trip to New Mexico the first week in April - totally new experience for me. We'll be flying into El Paso, visiting Carlsbad caverns the first day, then staying in Santa Fe most of the week, then visiting White Sands National Park at the end of the week, and flying back out of El Paso. From a little research, I see The Club at Las Campanas (both the Sunrise and Sunset courses) are ranked near the top on Golf Digest, and is located near Santa Fe. I also see Paako Ridge Golf Club is about an hour's drive and Black Mesa Golf club is about a half-hour's drive from Santa Fe (both also ranked high by Golf Digest). Just wanted to see if there are any Spy's here who would have any suggestions for golf (or any other activities/food) on this trip. Thanks!!

Member Reviews · February 24

On 5/17/2023 at 8:26 PM, ZMendle10 said:

Intro

As it stands I am currently a 12 handicap and the best way to describe my game is the ball striking of a 5 handicap, the short game of 20 handicap, and the decision making of 10. With my short game being the biggest killer I have yet to break 80 with my best being an 82. I have had opportunities but missed it solely through 3 putts (ex 83 with 4 3-putts). By now you're probably saying to yourselves if you have the ball striking of a 5 HC and putting 20HC why wouldn’t you do a putter review? The reason being I like my putter but never practiced so you get out what you put in and I wanted to just try what’s out there.

I live in somerset county NJ and as such I play a good amount of my golf at the somerset county courses with Green Knoll being my closest and home course. I played a lot of casual golf with the occasional tournament round to test my mental focus and give my competitive side a chance to come out.T

My previous driver was a 2021 Mizuno STZ with a Tensie 1K white 6TX and while I really liked it I felt like It was a bit too high and spiny which for my game I don't need much help with but, it was a fairway finder and what my game needed at the time. I was looking for something that doesn’t overspin on the misses as much and is very good in the wind with a bit more rollout. I was really intrigued by this year’s driver release schedule and was planning on getting a new one in February after everything has hit the shelves. However I was super intrigued by the TSR lineup and since there was a free demo day at Heron Glenn in September I figured why not get a head start.

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The Fitting

I told my fitter Kevin if all I see is a low fade with the driver I will be more than happy. I wish I could say everything that I tried but I did my best to stay in the dark. After going through a ton of combinations we had it dialed down to either a Ventus Black 6X or Graphite Design UB7X but I still didn’t know the clubhead yet. At the end of it all I was fit into the UB 7X in a Titleist TSR3 8* head, C2 hosel setting, and STD weight in T2. Since we were hitting range balls I was only concerned with contact and how the flight looked. We did drop a few Pro V1x’s at the end just to make sure and then we were on our way.

I didn’t pull the trigger right away though. I hemmed and hawed a bit, got engaged a month later, and then early November realized why look for something that’s not gonna get much better if at all. So i pulled the trigger and on November 4th I received my new driver.

First Impressions

Opening the box this club was packaged just fine. Nothing fancy but when shaking the box there was no reason for concern. I thought that it was assembled incorrectly for a second but upon further reviewing my order form that’s on me since i ordered it wrong. This is more for the hosel settings though and something I should have paid more attention to. Once out of the box with my grip of choice installed I set this thing down on the ground and it lives up to the hype. It is as classic looking as you can get and just beautiful to look down at with that gloss crown and TSR alignment aide. For a 460cc head it looks smaller than most driver heads the same size but that suits my eye very much. I put it down next to my STZ and my STZ looks like an absolute spaceship compared to it.

First Swings:

I took it to the indoor simulators and was immediately seeing the same numbers I was fit into. Just a super low peely cut that was averaging about 85ft in the air which is what I was hoping for. The STZ i had to fight to keep it at 100ft in the air and the TSR3 was the opposite and a much desirable change. Speed was up and so was ballspeed but this could have been due to the 1/2in longer shaft than my STZ. Overall I was immensely impressed and I couldn't wait to get on the course with it.

First On Course Round:

The first time the driver was on the course was at Farmstead Golf and Country Club in Newton, NJ. I immediately was seeing the distance gains that come with the quicker club head speed even with the misses. Overcutting the ball previously was averaging about 265 yds at best and that day my misses were about 285yds with the same miss and strike. I had several drives over 300 yds and even a 320 yds poke to which I promptly went long on the wedge shot (classic).

Overall I am incredibly impressed with the driver at first glance. It performed exactly as what I was fit into and it looks, feels, and sounds perfect in every way.

Looks: 13 out of 15

Plain and simple this driver looks perfect from the top. There is not a single knock on it for me and I love how compact it looks for a 460cc head, is taller, sits insanely neutral, and is so clean from the top view. Because of the weight track on the bottom it could be argued as a bit busy but that is solely because of the weight track. I have no issues with this at all and this is unavoidable with the weight track and I’m sure the people at Titleist who are much smarter than I will figure out a way to make it sleeker next iteration but I really have no complaints about it

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Sound and Feel: 15 out of 15

The driver just feels powerful and firm. It matches up fantastic with a firmer golf ball well and when you hit one out the middle you know and you could predict the flight and shape with your eyes closed. Mizuno may pride themselves on the best feeling irons and hope it bleeds into the driver but the TSR3 does it with no issues and blows mizuno out of the water. Nothing to complain about or have any notes of improvement on this front.

On Course Performance: 30 out of 40

The TSR3 straight up performs on the course but it comes with the caveat of you get out what you put in. The best comparison that I could liken it too would be like your favorite set of players' distance irons. You get ball speed with a fantastic flight and a good amount of forgiveness but you still have to put in the work to get the most out of it. I have had the driver in the bag for the past 7 months and it is the first driver that I feel like I have a good amount of control over. The flight never gets too high or overspins and it is a pleasure to watch well struck shots. I enjoy the additional length of going from 45in to 45.5in as it gives more clubhead speed and thus more ball speed while the 7X rather than 6X allows me to still feel in control due to being able to feel the clubhead. I have seen some of my longest drives with this club as well as reach some of my highest ball and clubhead speeds on Trackman. The reason for the detraction of points is that it could be a bit more forgiving of a driver at times. I don’t need to have my best stuff to have a good driving day but on my off days and especially my bad days the driver can be tough to get under control at times.

Miscellaneous: 10 out of 10

The things that I looked at here are the Titleist customer support and the build itself of the driver. Before pulling the trigger I spoke with the Titleist chat on their website about whether I should go 7X or 6TX with the shaft. They were very patient and helped explain the differences and guided me towards the right decision of 7X. The driver was also built correctly to spec after looking over the sheet that was included in the order and I do love the fact that the grip can be included without being installed. I like to use Pure grips but I hate the idea of having to cut off a brand new grip to put mine on.

Play it or Trade it?: 18 out of 20

Play it 100%. The looks, sound, and feel are all perfect. The ball flight is low and penetrating, but can still get high with low spin and is just all around a great driver. The extra length makes it a bit more unforgiving than the STZ but it still is well worth the change over. The okay days are as good as the great days with the STZ and the great days just blow the STZ out of the water. Overall the TSR3 has the ability to do things with ease that the STZ has an uphill battle to accomplish.

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Really enjoyed your review and updates ... very realistic take. Also found your description of your handicap super-relatable, as I was the same for a few years ... the closer I got to the hole the worse golfer I became. And, the long game was the whole reason I enjoyed golf ... just let me hit it far.

I've gotten better at putting and chipping with some technique, practice, and mindset changes. I was around 10-13 handicap for about 4 years and have dropped down to 5 or 6 over this past year.

Erin B · February 22

I really liked Mizuno 223 when I went to Mizuno in Atlanta for a fitting. I could easily game those. I also tried out the PXG 0311 CB and they were also a worthy contender. I haven't tried the Srixon, but have heard good things. However, I think Srixon's sole design works well for some and not for others (with turf interaction and swing delivery). A couple others, more outside the box to consider:
Edel SMS Pro (or regular SMS) ... they feel great and are highly adjustable with the 3 head weights which you can configure to move the CG more toe or heel side to help dial in strike and swing. I tried these at a fitting and really liked them. These are very expensive but there is a small chance to find what you want on eBay.
Foreward Golf Irons: Like Edel, you have the ability to adjust CG with the weight ports, but these also have 3 different "bounces" for the sole that you can get to match your delivery (steep or shallow) ... they can advise you on this. And, they supposedly feel fantastic. I haven't tried these, but just saw this video on them yesterday which is pretty intriguing:

Now, for my VERY personal recommendation: I ended up going with Callaway Rogue ST Pro and am in love with them - the feel, the contact, the turf interaction, the baby draws, the ability to fade/cut when needed, consistent, reliable distance, the "right" amount of forgiveness but still good feedback, and the looks - My approach game has never been better. I have an extra set with Tensei AV White IR 85-Stiff shafts in them - the Tensei shaft is great and served me well (smooth and stable), but I've been training and practicing a LOT and my swing speed has increased (112-115 Driver) to where I needed an X-Stiff shaft, so now I have the same set with Axiom 105 X shafts. If you're interested in my stiff shaft set (with the Tensei's), send me a message. I have 3-AW or could break that up however you want. Was about to list them on eBay today.
Here's more info on the Tensei AV White IR shafts: https://mitsubishigolf.com/products/tensei-av-white2-iron

brogies · February 21

On 2/19/2024 at 5:27 PM, vamosjackets said:

Cool to run aross this topic today. I just picked up a 2 iCrossover on ebay with the same shaft as my gamer irons (Axiom 105X). Just tried it out a couple rounds this weekend. It was awesome the few times I used it - which, surprisingly enough was scrambling out of the woods. On a par 5, I hit it out of a pinestraw lie with a strong fade punch shot to about 7 feet from 210 yards ... so, yeah, that was cool. I haven't given it its full examination yet, and definitely need to try it off the tee before giving it a permanent spot in the starting lineup. But, yeah what others have said is what I'm hoping for - just better accuracy and consistency than what I typically get from a hybrid.

This club has been money for me, for long approaches (which admittedly don't happen too often, but this is a weapon when they do), scrambling out of the woods, and as of yesterday, controlled Tee-shots on a very narrow hole. Strangely enough, when I first tried to hit this club on the range both days I've used it, I was terrible with it - couldn't get good contact the first 5-7 swings, but eventually got it figured out ... On the course, it's been 10-out-of-10.

February 20

For those mentioning the G425 crossover in comparison to the iCrossover, I found this video doing an interesting comparison of the two before deciding to go with the iCrossover, myself ... and yes, the MGS testing was also very compelling in nudging me toward the iCrossover!

TJ Hall · February 19

Cool to run aross this topic today. I just picked up a 2 iCrossover on ebay with the same shaft as my gamer irons (Axiom 105X). Just tried it out a couple rounds this weekend. It was awesome the few times I used it - which, surprisingly enough was scrambling out of the woods. On a par 5, I hit it out of a pinestraw lie with a strong fade punch shot to about 7 feet from 210 yards ... so, yeah, that was cool. I haven't given it its full examination yet, and definitely need to try it off the tee before giving it a permanent spot in the starting lineup. But, yeah what others have said is what I'm hoping for - just better accuracy and consistency than what I typically get from a hybrid.

Posted February 13 · February 13

6 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

How important are comparisons to you all when seeing member tests?

Comparison could add a lot of value to the member testing, IMO. The member tests are valuable already, but adding the comparison element would take it up another level.

Posted February 12 · February 12

3 hours ago, Rob Person said:

I've mentioned almost all of these on my personal list to try out at some point, as I struggled with 3-7irons tremendously. Not sure a hybrid will alleviate or worsen my playability.

In case it might help, here's what has worked well for my dad:
Callaway Rogue ST Max D Driver and fairway woods up through 9-wood. He also liked the Mavrik Max fairways and they go up that high in number also.
Ping G425 (or 430) hybrids 5 and 6 hybrids (6 hybrid goes up to 30 degrees I think).
A couple of Thomas Golf hybrids up to 9-iron (gets into the low 40's degree mark).
He keeps a regular PW, SW, and 7-iron for greenside shots.

He's playing as good as I've ever seen him play - shot half his age on 9 holes a couple times in the last few months.

Posted February 12 · February 12

28 minutes ago, Bortery said:

As a higher handicap golfer myself. I would like products for higher handicapper golfers. I would also ask to be involved in these testing process of the product. And obviously tested by those golfers, but not limited to, would be helpful. Being able to give/get feed back on forgiveness and ability to make/understand any adjustments of the product to help with miss hits. This would be a great topic of testing to read and/or write about.

This gave me a few thoughts on higher handicap member testing opportunities ... When trying to get my wife in the game, I found that irons were particularly difficult for the beginner golfer to figure out. Also, my dad at 76 can no longer hit irons (even though he's played his whole life). I've gotten both of them into hybrid options throughout the bag, and it works well for them. Here are some ideas for member testing:

1. Cleveland XL Halo "iron" set.

2. Cobra T-rail "iron" set.

3. Wilson launch pad "iron" set.

4. Tour Edge Hot Launch E522 Iron Woods "iron" set.

5. Thomas Golf hybrid "iron" set. https://www.thomasgolf.com/buy/Hybrids-Right/Mens-AT705

6. Wedgewood Golf "iron" set. https://wedgewoodgolf.com/products/wedgewood-sets

7. iDrive hybrid "iron" set. https://www.amazon.com/iDrive-Hybrids-Senior-Complete-which/dp/B0794P2ZMG

8. Moon Wood hybrids. (21* up to 35*) https://henryhawkgolf.com/products/21-moon-wood

9. McGregor Golf Wizard "iron" set.

10. Eleven Golf hybrid "iron" set. https://www.eleven-golf.com/ (These have gotten a lot of traction from YouTube reviewers recently.)

Posted February 12 · February 12

On 2/9/2024 at 4:44 PM, GolfSpy_APH said:

While I would agree it would be cool, im not sure possible in a forum sense. Most wanted testing covers a lot of that comparison where forum testing is a lot more of brand feature.

What I can say is that there will be plenty of tests where similar products are reviewed and then comparison can be done then between the groups.

Just for argument's sake: Seems like this kind of test could still be a "brand feature". It is one brand offering multiple options for the same spot in the bag. They give their 3 options to 6 golfers (2 high, 2 mid, 2 low handicaps) and let those golfers compare their options and choose which is best for them. They would then return the other two to the company. This would allow the company to actually feature all of their options and allow the golfers at that handicap to then kind of be the salesman for their choice, explaining why that choice was better for their game than the other two. As a forum reader, I think it would then entice me to look into (and likely eventually buy) the choice of the golfer I most related to. Regardless, the brand gets to showcase their stuff, and people would then get to consider that brand's options for their game.

Also, the Most Wanted testing doesn't really pit different options against each other. It's always fairway woods against other fairway woods, hybrids against other hybrids, utilities against other utilities, etc. Now, if Most Wanted testing did go the route of pitting the top 3 fairways against the top 3 hybrids against the top 3 utility irons ... THAT would be ... ... ... AWESOME.

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I think this same idea could go for blades vs player's irons vs GI vs SGI ... again for different handicap (or maybe swing speed) levels. Same for blade vs mallet putters. I think all of that kind of comparison across player levels could be eye-opening. Call it the "Most-Most-Wanted" or "Most Wanted Overall" series

Posted February 9 · February 9

I'd love to see test where a brand competes against itself with its various long game options ... something like a company having members test out their fairway woods vs hybrids vs utility irons, with differing handicaps testing all three options head to head.

IndyBonzo · February 9

Tons of good looking players irons these days (we may be in a golden age) - Mizuno 223's, Edel's, P770's, and I have to give extra credit to my own gamer set - Rogue ST Pro:

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rlb4 · February 9

On 2/2/2024 at 5:27 PM, rlb4 said:

Asics Gel-Kayano Ace 2 golf shoe. Designed by a running sneaker company and a golf company. Based on one of the best running sneakers of all time. It really is fantastic. You should at least try it since everyones feet are different.

I second this. I have these, and they are the best shoes I've ever had. I walk/jog the course a couple times/week, so I was looking for golf shoes that would serve well as running shoes, and these answered the call. For me they're the perfect blend of stability, cushioning, comfort, grip, looks, and they're also waterproof (which I wasn't really looking for but is a nice bonus).

February 9

On 2/4/2024 at 1:13 PM, Piper said:

I have just bought one second hand… does anyone know what the factory fitted weight in the heel should be ( only 1 on the 11 )… mine has got a 6 g in it and l don’t think it’s correct.. thanks

I would recommend calling Callaway Preowned. They have a Mavrik Max 11-Wood listed for sale on their site now ... I imagine they would be happy to answer your question. 1-800-826-6174

February 9

I imagine the mygolfspy staff would recommend going with something like the Maxfli Tour (or Tour X), which performs on par with the expensive brands and scores on quality better than most of the expensive brands. If you get them on a deal from Dick's or Golf Galaxy, they come out to something like $25/dozen new. I think that argument does make the most logical sense, because it's impossible to really know what you're getting with the "experienced" balls. Why not get the new balls close to the same price that perform just as well.

Rob Person · February 8

22 hours ago, Rob Person said:

Uhhhh... 4-7 irons, Driver, 3 rescue wood/Hybrid. Does that qualify?

I am slowly figuring out, 1 step at a time, where I am falling down on my face with my swing with these clubs.

So, from 8-iron in, you're gold! You'd be a great scramble partner for me.

Rob Person · February 8

18 hours ago, chisag said:

.... As cnosil pointed out, I am reluctant to mis-match wedges because there can be subtle differences in weight, balance and even performance. That said some on tour do it so it isn't as easy as playing all the same wedges.

... I recently added a 54* wedge to my bag as I played a 50* and a 58* and while I was comfortable hitting partial shots with my 50* there were occasions when I wished I had something between my 50* and 58*. It took quite a while to get comfortable with the performance because a 54* isn't halfway between a 50 and 58 in all regards. There was not a direct distance correlation as the 54* spins more than the 50* and with full shots (which are 3/4 swings for me) the 54* carries closer to the 58* than the 50*. Chips and pitches also are closer to the 58 than the 50. It was a real learning curve.

... But once I figured out what kind of trajectory, spin and distance I can expect from the 54* it has been a great addition to my bag. Not the case initially and it really did a number on my short game so I almost gave up. Glad I didn't as it is also the best club out of the sand here in the desert where bunkers tend to have a thin layer of sand. It is amazing how a negative attitude can derail confidence which derails performance and once I started understanding and playing the correct shots, a positive attitude begat positive results.

... So I would suggest hanging in there and really concentrating on what you want from the 51-59* gap then using it appropriately and sticking with it ... til you know one way or the other if it will work for your game.

Very helpful response. Thank you. Yes, what you described about the distance comparison of the 54 to the 50 (51 in my case) and the 58 (59 in my case) is exactly what you described. On full shots, it seemed to be really close to the 59, and I preferred hitting my 59, so I just quit hitting it on anything except greenside bunkers. It is great out of the sand at my course for the same reason you say about the desert (shallow sand), and for that reason alone, it does stay in my bag. Maybe my expectations for the distance it "should" be going is what led to negative attitude which, as you said, derails everything else. It is strange that it would be such a different distance gap there than it is for other loft gaps.

For full shots, do you just hit your 54 for the rare shot that falls in the small distance interval where the 54 is barely longer than the 58? Also, do you use it for shots around the green other than the bunker (if so what kind)?

February 7

Have any of you ever had a weird gap in your bag where there was a certain club you couldn't hit? I'm having that with the gap between my 51* wedge and 59* wedge. I've tried a couple of choices that I thought should be really good. I bought the original Edison wedges a couple years ago in 47, 51, 55, 59. Overall, I have loved them. I sold the 55 because I just couldn't hit it, and to this day still have no idea why it didn't work. I would fat it often, but even when I didn't, it just always flew weird, going maybe 5 yards further than my 59 even on a full effort swing and good strike. I hit the 47, 51, and 59 great. I bought a PXG Sugar Daddy 54 degree to replace the Edison 55 ... and it's slightly better but still doesn't work as well as I want it to on full shots, but it works really well out of the sand, so it stays in the bag. I've learned to hit the 59 anywhere from 85 and in and the 51 anywhere from 90-115, and just skip over the 55-distance gap.

I remember having a similar problem when I was younger. I had a set of Callaway Big Bertha irons (from the mid 90's), and loved them, played them for 25 years. I hit the PW (135-145) and the SW (105 and in) like a dream, but bought an AW to go between them (same shaft and everything), and it was a complete dud for me - super strange flight.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this, and if so do you have any insight to share?

jbern · February 7

Bought these Edison (originals) on eBay for a very good deal a couple years ago - Originally came with 47, 51, 55, 58, 63. They were custom built with MMT 125 TX Scoring wedge shafts, with custom ferrules, and all lettering was silver-paint filled - these things are gorgeous. Overall, I have loved them. I sold the 55 and the 63 because I just couldn't hit them ... The 63 is understandable since I've never played with a loft that high, but I still have no idea why the 55 didn't work. I hit the 47, 51, and 59 great. I bought a PXG Sugar Daddy 54 degree to replace the Edison 55 ... and it doesn't work either, at least not well for full shots, but it works really well out of the sand, so it stays in the bag. I've learned to hit the 59 anywhere from 85 and in and the 51 anywhere from 90-115, and just skip over the 55-distance gap.

sirchunksalot · January 19

NOOOOOOO, I love my DF 2.1! Please don't make me switch! Don't even put the thought in my mind!!

SliceBoss · January 19

These aren't hybrids throughout the set. They're hybrids in the low irons (SGI), more like general game improvement in the mid, and kind of normal in the high - which could be great if that's what you want. I tried my dad out in some of these (the Halo XL's) because he started struggling hitting irons so much. He liked the low irons (which are more like hybrids), but the mid and high irons didn't help him at all. I've got him fixed up now with woods all the way to 9-wood, hybrids as high as I could find them - up through a 6-hybrid in ping g-425, and from there I found a company called Thomas, (https://www.thomasgolf.com/Hybrids-Right/Mens-AT705) that has hybrid-type clubs all the way up to the mid 50's in loft. I got him a couple of those that took him all the way up to 42-degrees, which is all he needs. He's become deadly with the Thomases - and they spin a LOT, surprisingly. He also has his old 7-iron, pitching-wedge, and sand-wedge for shots around the green. This setup has him playing the best golf he's played in a loooong time. Actually shot half his age on 9-holes twice recently (He's 76).

Cfhandyman · January 19

20 hours ago, Tommybahama101 said:

Hi all, first time posting here after making the switch from Wrx. I'm looking at picking up new irons for the first time in a few years and I'm looking for suggestions on irons that fall between Players Distance and Blades. Currently game the ZX5, but my game has outgrown them. Currently a 5.6hcp and looking for something with a smaller profile but still has some forgiveness.

Planning to hit the T150 and King Tour, not sure what else. I'm LH, so unfortunately can't try the MP 243. Wonder if the 241 will be too bladey and the 245 will be too big. Thoughts?

Edit: not too interested in the ZX7. Want to try something new.

Are the Mizuno MP 243's not available in LH?? If not, how about the MP 223's? I'm a big fan of them. Small profile but have some help. And, could save some money buying the second-from-the-latest model. I highly doubt there will be much difference between the 243's and the 223's.

PXG 0317 CB are also worth trying in that category.

January 19

First, these look good ... much improved over their previous CBX models, IMO. Second, I most definitely prefer to strike my wedges (and irons down to 6-iron) on the toe side of middle. For me, it keeps me more consistent with a reliable baby-draw shot shape and keeps me far away from the dreaded you-know-what. So, these definitely have my attention! It's so cool that they tried to make a product especially for that kind of strike - I've kind of been pining for that with wedges and irons in general. For me, I find that my Edisons (version 1) do well toward the toe side. A couple others that I've tested that did well toward the toe were the Mizuno T22 and the Edels. What's cool about the Edels is that you can kind of make them biased pretty much anywhere on the face with different weight configurations.

I'd love for a whole iron set to be created around that toe-side bias. With my current gamers (Rogue ST Pro), the toe side works well down through the 6-iron, and even the 5 somewhat. But, the 3 and 4 are not good from the toe. Maybe I should try some lead tape out toward the toe?? I've never tried that before.

I did try hitting the Edel SMS Pro with heavier weights toward the toe and felt they had some very good potential for me. However, my preferred shaft was not available for the fitting, nor anything close to it really, so it was hard to get a good guage ... not a good enough guage to convince me to switch with that price tag.

GolfSpy_KFT · December 26, 2023

For me it's mainly being intrigued by elite competition - watching the best of the best go at it. Secondarily, the personalities involved.

This would be the same as other sports I follow sometimes (football, baseball, basketball). Another comparison would be college football where I have a loyalty/vested interest in my team (Georgia Tech) that is beyond just the elite competition aspect ... If I had to choose, I'd rather watch my team play even if they're not in the championship than watch the championship ... There have been a few golfers like that for me over the years. Currently I am all in on Scottie Scheffler (due to his character that I witnessed when he won the Masters). If Scottie is out of a tournament, my heart will tend to gravitate toward one of the other guys in contention for one reason or another.

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