revkev Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I don’t want to make this one too complicated. My son played in a scramble last week. He hadn’t played in over a year and as a Dad with a busy job and two young kids doesn’t play often. He’s very active and when he plays hits the ball a mile - when he used to play a lot more I’ve seen him hit 121 on track an and he’s over 140 green stick with no warm up taking a casual swing in the back yard. The clubs that he is using are an old set of mine - the driver is a Ping Rapture with an upgraded stiff shaft. I want to buy him a new (used) driver for Father’s Day. I think he will be amazed at what happens when he’s in a x flex shaft. But I know next to nothing about that equipment segment - I’ve never gamed anything x because by the time it was readily available I had aged out of really needing it. Suggestions as to what to look for an eBay? I’d want to be at least 3 models back in order to save some money - it’s the shaft that I’m concerned about here. Thanks Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Are you looking 3 models back with a stock x shaft? Shafts are so personal, much like a putter or ball imo. What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Blue 55/4 shaft @ 44.75” or GD VF 5s @45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" TSR2 7 wood shaft TBD Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: P790 Aged Copper 4-PW with Steelfiber I95 R Wedges: T22 copper 50* and 54* with Steelfiber 95 S Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Like when buying other flexes the x flex is just a different flex. Having a rough idea of what he likes in terms of feel from a shaft will help get you in the ball park of what shaft to get. Does he like a counterbalance shaft, stiff butt end or more soft butt end? Also depending on what route a 6.0 instead of 6.5 in a px could be doable. If he’s not sure then what shaft is he playing now. As for price unless you are going after a Ventus velocore or autoflexx you can probably find good shafts for $200 or less and probably in the $100 range for stock shafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 If it were me, I’d pick the head and then see what x-stiff stock shafts are available on eBay, 2nd swing, global golf, etc. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, cnosil said: If it were me, I’d pick the head and then see what x-stiff stock shafts are available on eBay, 2nd swing, global golf, etc. Not a bad idea as it most likely would save you a few $$ if you get an adapter on it. Another place is the pre-owned Callaway website. They also have an ebay store which I think in general is a few bucks cheaper then directly from the website. I picked up a Tensei Blue in X with Callaway Optfit adapter for my Cobra. I do my own club work so I did the change over myself and have an extra adapter for various buddies Callaways when needed. Depending on his driver swing speed, he may need to be 7x and possibly tipped. DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
release Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I had been there in his shoes with obligation and prioritizing, of what's important in life. Trust me, cost of golf equipment, as much as they are these days, is nothing comparing to the green fees and other expenses associated with golfing even for just once a week. His kids will grow up fast enough. By the time he turned around, they'll be 18 and out of the house either to higher education or started working. I had never regret the choice I had made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 7 hours ago, cnosil said: If it were me, I’d pick the head and then see what x-stiff stock shafts are available on eBay, 2nd swing, global golf, etc. Thanks for the replies guys, all were helpful but this ones the winner. I knew I’d get great answers quickly - Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChitownM2 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 I hate to point someone to a different golf forum as I firmly believe the community here is the best, but when shopping for used clubs, take a look over at the classifieds on GolfWRX. That place is literally flooded with drivers/shafts and I'd say at least half of them are X-flex. Everyone over there must be a monster.....or at least has convinced themselves that they are. Jump back to page 7 or 8 until you find ads that are a week or two old and see what is still available. They are usually pretty motivated sellers and willing to haggle at that point. I've seen last years cobra speedzone or TM Sim heads as low as $200 and then you can find a shaft pull for $75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
release Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I don't look for used golf clubs less than 20 years vintage. One, the "new" model comes out once or several times a calendar year. and the previous NOS will drop at least 50-60% with OEM warranty. Secondly, they will not last , even with proper care, because of the new multilevel material construction. Same theory as in the construction industry material; where they claim the reconstructed 2x4, glued together with resin will be stronger than the one piece lumber.... what about decades down the road ? Glue does not expand nor contract in unison with the pieces of natural wood it held together. That alone will cause issue besides the aging of the resin over the years. I guess it'll be okay if one doesn't expect the new $600 driver ( upward to close to $1,000)to last beyond a few seasons. and accept the disposable principle. I talked to many golfers, and some of them trade in their equipment often, simply because they don't expect it to last. I will be surprised if some of these glued together equipment would maintain their originally designed structural integrity after years of use. You see the golf clubs made with persimmon , steel still around after a century and could be used on the golf course but, not with the modern equipment. Not with the current design. If I'm lucky, I would see new material being introduced into making golf club ( shafts first , then the heads ), however, more realistically, the one piece golf ball should surface before a new mono material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, release said: I don't look for used golf clubs less than 20 years vintage. One, the "new" model comes out once or several times a calendar year. and the previous NOS will drop at least 50-60% with OEM warranty. Secondly, they will not last , even with proper care, because of the new multilevel material construction. Same theory as in the construction industry material; where they claim the reconstructed 2x4, glued together with resin will be stronger than the one piece lumber.... what about decades down the road ? Glue does not expand nor contract in unison with the pieces of natural wood it held together. That alone will cause issue besides the aging of the resin over the years. I guess it'll be okay if one doesn't expect the new $600 driver ( upward to close to $1,000)to last beyond a few seasons. and accept the disposable principle. I talked to many golfers, and some of them trade in their equipment often, simply because they don't expect it to last. I will be surprised if some of these glued together equipment would maintain their originally designed structural integrity after years of use. You see the golf clubs made with persimmon , steel still around after a century and could be used on the golf course but, not with the modern equipment. Not with the current design. If I'm lucky, I would see new material being introduced into making golf club ( shafts first , then the heads ), however, more realistically, the one piece golf ball should surface before a new mono material shaft. Equipment lasts longer thank most think. I play with guys regularly that have molded and adjustable drivers and woods that are 7-10 years old and they play 3 times a week weather permitting all year. I played last week with a random guy that had an r15 driver that still hits it 285+ carry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 5/30/2021 at 10:06 AM, RickyBobby_PR said: Equipment lasts longer thank most think. I play with guys regularly that have molded and adjustable drivers and woods that are 7-10 years old and they play 3 times a week weather permitting all year. I played last week with a random guy that had an r15 driver that still hits it 285+ carry Fun fact, drivers actually tend to get longer as they get played with, especially with the longer hitters. This is why tour drivers have to get tested occasionally as drivers that were on the edge the rules can actually become non conforming over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas King Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 If you're unsure of shafts in drivers and you're looking back a few years, I recommend looking up the Titleist shaft charts from whatever year your looking at. They can help give a ballpark idea of where the shafts line up in terms of launch and spin. The charts won't include everything and factory stock shafts may not perform the exact same but it should give you an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 @cnosilbeat me to it (again), but I was going to say Global Golf. I just did a quick search for used drivers with an extra stiff shaft and got 23 in-stock results back. Not sure what price range you're looking in... Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Qi10 7w, 21, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Accra TZ 95 stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, 60 T Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: EV8 Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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