Lenge13 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) I recently went to Ugolf in Dubuque, IA and was VERY impressed with the Driver fitting session ($150 for an hour, but if you buy that day the fitting fee is taken off your purchase). Tristan (the owner) got me in on short notice and even gave me a few "lesson tips" to help our session go better. At the end I was fitted into a TSi3 Mitsubishi AV Raw White 65g stiff shaft. I was shocked at the numbers the TSi3 provided on the Trackman, I am not great at driving the ball and play with around a 12 handicap. What I learned by going to a fitter is something I have NEVER read or heard online (anywhere). My misses are usually a slice, but even (what I feel are) good shots tend to fade out to the right more than I would like. I was currently gaming the TS2 with Hzrdus Smoke (low spin shaft) because of more "forgiveness", but what I learned from the fitting is that the TS2 (and most "forgiving" drivers) created too much spin for me. That creation of spin from those "forgiving" heads were making my ok middle hits into bad fades or even slices because of 4,-5-6000 rpm spin rates. The TSi3 cut my spins rates down by 2/3rds and was hitting straighter and straighter drives (The Callaway Epic Max LS was in the running too). The last drive I hit on the Trackman with the TSi3 was only 2300 rpms (I hit over 6000 on the TS2), 168 mph ball speed for a total 299yrd drive (and SOLD). I would have NEVER purchased a TSi3 on my own since I was thinking it was for "better players". I say all this, so others may think about their driver choices and do not count out "low spin" drivers that are marketed for "better golfers"! And as always...go see a fitter! Edited July 30, 2021 by Lenge13 cnosil, GaDawg, TG8 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: TSi3 Mitsubishi AV Raw White 65g Stiff 3 Wood: Rogue ST Max Mitsubishi AV Raw White 75g Stiff 5 Wood: Rogue ST Max Mitsubishi AV Raw White 85g Stiff Irons: 699 Combo: 4 & 5 699, 6-AW 699 Pros S300 Stiff Wedges: 286 Forged 54 & 58 Putter: DS72 (2023) Ball: Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Classic example of why seeing someone that understands club fitting and seeing numbers on a launch monitor are so beneficial. Thanks for sharing. TG8, GaDawg, MattF and 1 other 2 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG8 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Lenge13 said: I recently went to Ugolf in Dubuque, IA and was VERY impressed with the Driver fitting session ($150 for an hour, but if you buy that day the fitting fee is taken off your purchase). Tristan (the owner) got me in on short notice and even gave me a few "lesson tips" to help our session go better. At the end I was fitted into a TSi3 Mitsubishi AV Raw White 65g stiff shaft. I was shocked at the numbers the TSi3 provided on the Trackman, I am not great at driving the ball and play with around a 12 handicap. What I learned by going to a fitter is something I have NEVER read or heard online (anywhere). My misses are usually a slice, but even (what I feel are) good shots tend to fade out to the right more than I would like. I was currently gaming the TS2 with Hzrdus Smoke (low spin shaft) because of more "forgiveness", but what I learned from the fitting is that the TS2 (and most "forgiving" drivers) created too much spin for me. That creation of spin from those "forgiving" heads were making my ok middle hits into bad fades or even slices because of 4,-5-6000 rpm spin rates. The TSi3 cut my spins rates down by 2/3rds and was hitting straighter and straighter drives (The Callaway Epic Max LS was in the running too). The last drive I hit on the Trackman with the TSi3 was only 2300 rpms (I hit over 6000 on the TS2), 168 mph ball speed for a total 299yrd drive (and SOLD). I would have NEVER purchased a TSi3 on my own since I was thinking it was for "better players". I say all this, so others may think about their driver choices and do not count out "low spin" drivers that are marketed for "better golfers"! And as always...go see a fitter! Curious if your spin numbers were down on the cobra radspeed driver? I had a similar setup and got fitted to the cobra with black smoke. I didnt get to try the tsi3 so i was curious how spin numbers compared if you remember? Quote WITB Driver: TSR4 9* - GD VF 5x FW/Hybrid: Stealth Plus 15* 3 wood | 18* 2 hybrid Irons: Mizuno MP225 4-GW - modus tour 120X Wedges: Edison 2.0 52* | 56* Putter: L.A.B. Link.1 Ball: Pro V1x Left Dash Tech: Foresight Sports GC3 Tests: The Edison Challenge featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Callaway Whitebox Testing: Chrome Tour & Chrome Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 A good example of assumptions on what forgiveness is and how ball flight laws, contact on the face and how a club is delivered play a role in all of it. Lenge13 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenge13 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, TG8 said: Curious if your spin numbers were down on the cobra radspeed driver? I had a similar setup and got fitted to the cobra with black smoke. I didnt get to try the tsi3 so i was curious how spin numbers compared if you remember? I’m sorry, I don’t remember exactly but I did hit the Cobra Radspeed and it was quick it did not stay in the running long! Everything was back to TSi3 or Epic Max LS. And the other factor was that Mitsubishi shaft is stock with Titleist! Usually that shaft is a $250-300 upgrade. GaDawg and TG8 2 Quote Driver: TSi3 Mitsubishi AV Raw White 65g Stiff 3 Wood: Rogue ST Max Mitsubishi AV Raw White 75g Stiff 5 Wood: Rogue ST Max Mitsubishi AV Raw White 85g Stiff Irons: 699 Combo: 4 & 5 699, 6-AW 699 Pros S300 Stiff Wedges: 286 Forged 54 & 58 Putter: DS72 (2023) Ball: Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2puttbogey Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I had the same realization when I was fitted. I figured I would be a prime candidate for the pxg 0811 xf due to where my handicap is. I was surprised when they was the better fit. I have actually moved the weights to the front to reduce spin since (lessons changed my swing a bit). Lenge13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Great driver! Got the opportunity to test the TSi3 for MGS earlier this year and I was impressed by its performance as well! Getting fit for your clubs can truly make a very great impact on you game! BTW THIS IS POST 900! Lenge13 1 Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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