B_R_A_D_Y Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On the tee box for the club championship yesterday … I was playing for senior, net score … the pro filled us in on local rules that were in effect. Lots of rain creating very wet conditions allowed for lift & clean in the fairway. Plugged balls were even being allowed to be lifted & dropped in both rough and bunkers. So then as fate would have it, on that first hole, my drive plugged in the opposite bank of a creek, marked by yellow stakes. Fresh off that rules talk, I automatically popped my ball out of it’s hole, and played it from within the hazard, without a second thought, and sank a 30 footer for bogey. I marked a 5, without a penalty … with the group’s mistaken approval, and we played on. I did however, text the pro back in the club house, to get his opinion. But it was too distracting to continue texting the narrative while playing, so I told him I would explain it in person. And we played on. A few holes later, a player in our group realized and pointed out that what I had actually done, was to improve my lie within a hazard. I agreed, but was uncertain whether the penalty was 1 or 2 strokes. Since I had already told the pro that I was looking for him, I left the card uncorrected. After a 30 min wait on the 15th tee, pouring rain finally drove us into the clubhouse, where I found the pro and brought up the issue. The pro thought it was a 2 stroke penalty, but said he would double check. In the mean time however, he informed us that we needed to go back out into the pouring rain and finish our round. While we had been stuck behind slow play all day, the group ahead of us had finished their round in the rain, and with another hour of rain predicted, we needed to finish, too. So with the final decision still pending in my mind, I once again did not correct the card. We finished in miserable conditions … by this time there was standing water on greens, tees, bunkers and fairways … I finished par, bogey, birdie, double, for a net one over. Not a bad place to be with another day to go. The pro was waiting for us, and offered to tally the card while I got my wet gear out of the cart. The entire issue of my penalty was not on my mind, and the pro did not know that I had not corrected the card yet. Excited to know the tally and where I stood in the rankings, my penalty issues were the furthest thing from my mind … so I left contented that I was in contention. It did not occur to me until much later that night that I never did correct the card … I turned in an incorrect low score on the first hole. So I reluctantly texted the pro at home, and informed him that my actions, or lack thereof, had caused my disqualification. I actually had originally considered dropping back across the creek, before I convinced myself to play out of the hazard. I wish I had gone with that first impulse. I’m writing this as the final round of the tournament concludes, so the pain is still fresh. But I am prepared to hear everyone’s opinions. Fire when ready. Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Btw you can ground your club in a penalty area under the new rules Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Sorry that happened. Sounds like the pro should have had a special rule stating about plugs in hazard areas. B_R_A_D_Y 1 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said: Sorry that happened. Sounds like the pro should have had a special rule stating about plugs in hazard areas. Why would the pro have a rule for hazards. It’s simple if you don’t like the lie on a penalty area you are entitled relief under the rules of the penalty (red or yellow stakes) This is a mistake by the op both on his choice to pick up the ball in a hazard and not paying attention to what the local rules were and two not remembering to follow up with the pro after the round. The only rules that were changed here are plugged balls in the rough and bunkers. Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
GolfSpy_BNG Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 While this clearly sucks, good on you for having the integrity to DQ yourself. B_R_A_D_Y, Blueberry_Squishie and MyWifesSwingCoach 3 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment
B_R_A_D_Y Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: This is a mistake by the op both on his choice to pick up the ball in a hazard and not paying attention to what the local rules were and two not remembering to follow up with the pro after the round. Absolutely … It was all my fault. This was intended as a lesson in forgetfulness. I saw a plugged ball and forgot I was in a hazard. I was so happy to be out of the rain, I forgot about recording my penalty. I’m only 65. I’m worried about how bad will my memory might be in 5 years. The local rule I want changed is relief from tree roots. Local emergency room Doc says he sees too many golfers every year with wrist injuries caused by hitting roots. This could be a career ending injury for me. Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, B_R_A_D_Y said: The local rule I want changed is relief from tree roots. Local emergency room Doc says he sees too many golfers every year with wrist injuries caused by hitting roots. This could be a career ending injury for me. What you want is a free shot. You get relief rom that via unplayable lie, but that comes with a penalty. Might as well just say hard pan and other unfriendly surfaces should be free relief because amateurs don’t get free clubs or can get hurt. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
CarlH Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Kudos to you for your integrity. With regards to roots, my club will often play a "no rocks/roots" free drop (but not for tournament play). I see the rule get stretched unfairly (i.e. taking relief under the guise of roots only to get a better lie and clear shot to the green) and find it silly to play it sometimes and not others. Personally, I would prefer to not see that rule (or the "leaf rule" for the same reasoning) allowed as a penalty free drop. B_R_A_D_Y 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
B_R_A_D_Y Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: What you want is a free shot. I don’t want anything free. I’m expressing a real issue that causes real injuries. You can’t compare a serious injury causing root with hard pan. Why is there a rule that you don’t have to play a ball off a road or cart path? I don’t roll the ball in the rough when I’m out of sight of other players. I don’t want anything I haven’t earned. I don’t play golf against anyone … I play against myself. You may as well have argued, “if amateurs don’t want bad lies, then they should keep the ball in the fairway.” MyWifesSwingCoach 1 Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, B_R_A_D_Y said: I don’t want anything free. I’m expressing a real issue that causes real injuries. You can’t compare a serious injury causing root with hard pan. Why is there a rule that you don’t have to play a ball off a road or cart path? I don’t roll the ball in the rough when I’m out of sight of other players. I don’t want anything I haven’t earned. I don’t play golf against anyone … I play against myself. You may as well have argued, “if amateurs don’t want bad lies, then they should keep the ball in the fairway.” You get relief from it under the rules as they stand. Declare the ball unplayable and take the penalty. You save yourself from injury and damage to the club. Saying that you should get free relief because it could cause an injury is getting a fee shot for a bad hit/bad break. The rules of golf are play it as it lies, except where the rules stipulate such as relief from sprinkler head. The tree and the root system are part of the course. You obviously play against other people the thread is about a mistake you made in a comp so when playing by yourself do whatever you want since you can’t count the round as a handicap round. When playing under handicap rules play by the rules and don’t look for a freebie because you ended up in a bad place. Either hit the shot or pay the penalty for your bad break Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
RollingGreens Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 At least you were honest enough to correct the mistake. The Pro could have gone further though the situation to correct it quicker so maybe this was avoidable for improper scoring MyWifesSwingCoach 1 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment
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