pbclub Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 What does the group think about "Shag bag guy" and his cousin "Half bucket of range balls guy" who show up to the practice green and proceed to drop 40 or so balls onto the green while others are practicing? Does it bother you when this guy has balls all over the green while you are trying to chip/putt? Or no? Range ball guy also just leaves his balls there when he is done. Not in the bucket but all over. When asked why he does this he says "So others can use them for free". Of course, most people are polite and dont use stuff that does not belong to them, so the balls sit there until the mowers or another employee have to stop what they are doing and pick up 40 golf balls all over the place. Is this common? I find it rude and selfish, but maybe I am too sensitive lol. Opinions? Fore67, Josh Parker, Rob Person and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Unless someone has bad technique and can shank a chip or pitch shot I don’t care what their doing. Its wasted energy to worry or concern myself with stuff I can’t control Blueberry_Squishie, TriciaPug, SirPrised and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 In my opinion it depends on how many people are using the green. If I am there by myself I'll use a bucket/shag bag and if someone shows up I'll scale back to a handful of balls or play to a single hole. Don't care if they leave balls on the green, happens on some of the courses I play. Rob Person, Josh Parker, fixyurdivot and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goaliedad30 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Pre-round, I use just a handful of balls, and find a hole no one is using to chip to. I can vary trajectory as needed to practice what I want, and even just chip to a spot on the green instead of a hole. When I'm working in practice mode, I may use 10-15 balls at a time, either to a single target (block practice), or to various targets (game practice). Either way, when I'm done, I clear off the entire practice green (at least the balls I've been working with). Our dedicated short game area has balls already in shag bags, so everyone hits what they need, then shags them and puts the bag back for the next person. Shapotomous, Josh Parker, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I like golf because most of the time, players are courteous to one another and courtesy in contagious. It's a "gentleman's game". Sounds like Shag Bag Guy thinks he is doing something nice for others by leaving his balls behind. Josh Parker and Rob Person 2 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for various OEMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Working at the course, and sometimes having range duties, I don't mind. From our ball dispenser up to the range area is about 50 yards, so most won't see the left behinds. If after 3 or 4 people pass by them and move to a different stand then the "free balls" I sometimes will grab a wedge from the storage area and knock them onto the range. If we are busy, I leave them and mention to a random person where there are some extras laying up there nobody is using. As for the chipping area, a person hitting 30 balls is normal, and we would rather they shag bag them versus walking up and club swatting them back down. Seen too many times a stray ball get knocked into another area and left. Plus some are careless and have chucked the club into the green. Our chipping area is cut and rolled just like the course greens so maintaining its integrity is key. As for putting areas, we don't allow chipping onto them, and unless you are doing ladder or circle drills, 6 balls is usually the norm to see people practicing with. Josh Parker and Fore67 2 Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fore67 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 17 hours ago, pbclub said: What does the group think about "Shag bag guy" and his cousin "Half bucket of range balls guy" who show up to the practice green and proceed to drop 40 or so balls onto the green while others are practicing? Does it bother you when this guy has balls all over the green while you are trying to chip/putt? Or no? Range ball guy also just leaves his balls there when he is done. Not in the bucket but all over. When asked why he does this he says "So others can use them for free". Of course, most people are polite and dont use stuff that does not belong to them, so the balls sit there until the mowers or another employee have to stop what they are doing and pick up 40 golf balls all over the place. Is this common? I find it rude and selfish, but maybe I am too sensitive lol. Opinions? Not too sensitive at all. I agree with you wholeheartedly! This is entirely inappropriate behaviour! Most people who are warming up or even practicing have a little more sensitivity to the situation. When warming up, I take either 1 or 2 balls and work through some drills. When practicing I change to 3 balls and concentrate my activity to one hole. For anyone to use their shag bag or a half bucket of balls is ridiculous. They will be putting into balls that are around the hole more often than making putts. If they fill the cup with balls, no more can go in anyway. If they hit balls to all the holes they are just being a nuisance and have disregard for other players. If they leave the balls on the green, they are disrespecting those who have to follow behind to clean up after them. Range guy clearly doesn't know about golf. Most range balls won't give you much feel on the putting green and practice with them would be like not practicing at all! If I spot guys like these, it's a great education experience for me to explain to them the reasons why the shouldn't do it! FORE! Mike Rob Person and pbclub 1 1 Quote Played this wonderful game for 54 years now. Still love it! Driver - Callaway Rogue Reg shaft 10 degree (Circa 2018) 3 Wood - Callaway Big Bertha 3 Metal (2014) Hybrids - Callaway X-Hot Pro 16 and 20 degree (2014) Irons - Callaway Apex Pro Graphite Shafts 4-A (2014) Wedges - Callaway Mac Daddy 56 (2014) and 58 (2019) Putter - Kayson Mallet 34" (2023) Bags - Carry: Sun Mountain (2005) Cart: BagBoy Easy Rider Lite (2019) Pull/Push Cart - BagBoy Compact3 (2019) "Can't birdie them all if you don't birdie the first 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 18 hours ago, pbclub said: What does the group think about "Shag bag guy" and his cousin "Half bucket of range balls guy" who show up to the practice green and proceed to drop 40 or so balls onto the green while others are practicing? Does it bother you when this guy has balls all over the green while you are trying to chip/putt? Or no? Range ball guy also just leaves his balls there when he is done. Not in the bucket but all over. When asked why he does this he says "So others can use them for free". Of course, most people are polite and dont use stuff that does not belong to them, so the balls sit there until the mowers or another employee have to stop what they are doing and pick up 40 golf balls all over the place. Is this common? I find it rude and selfish, but maybe I am too sensitive lol. Opinions? So I guess for me this is a 2 part question. 1. I don't mind the 40 balls if they are chipping to one flag and allowing others to practice as well. 2. Leaving them there and not at least putting them all in one spot is a no from me. I have been to facilities that have the pvc slides to collect them all and they stay at the putting/chipping green all the time and I have been to others that don't. At the end of the day it's just about being respectful of everyone else. Rob Person, cnosil and pbclub 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 If we want to complain, I'd say complain about the guy putting on the chipping green. I want to hit shots to different holes and can't becuase there is some guy putting! 2puttbogey, NM01 and Rob Person 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbclub Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 (edited) 23 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Unless someone has bad technique and can shank a chip or pitch shot I don’t care what their doing. Its wasted energy to worry or concern myself with stuff I can’t control Bad technique? Sorry I dont understand. Do you mean like hitting into you? Edited May 25 by pbclub Rob Person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 57 minutes ago, pbclub said: Bad technique? Sorry I dont understand. Do you mean like hitting into you? Not hitting into me as where I’m practicing? Bad chipping technique. I’ve seen enough hacks on the chipping greens who thin or shank a wedge. Nobody needs to get hit by that type of shot. I move to a location where that person won’t cause me bodily harm Rob Person and pbclub 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philpug Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 If I am on the practice green putting, 4 balls max. If I am on the chipping green, 6 balls max. On 5/24/2024 at 4:25 PM, pbclub said: "Half bucket of range balls guy" who show up to the practice green and proceed to drop 40 or so balls onto the green while others are practicing? I have a BIG problem with this guy when he chips a bucket of range balls ... then leaves them scattered on the green for someone else to clean up let alone leave them in the way of who ever wants to use the green after him. pbclub, vandyland and Rob Person 3 Quote Click * Point * Chute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbclub Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 6 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Not hitting into me as where I’m practicing? Bad chipping technique. I’ve seen enough hacks on the chipping greens who thin or shank a wedge. Nobody needs to get hit by that type of shot. I move to a location where that person won’t cause me bodily harm Haha I get it! Rob Person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhaze91 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I may be off but this is offensive! Using range balls to practice chipping and putting! Offensive. I keep a set of 5 or 6 cycled out balls that I play my rounds with that I use specifically for chipping and putting. Using range balls for this is terrible. This is to be meant to be somewhat sarcastic. pbclub and Rob Person 1 1 Quote Driver: Titleist Tsi 3 3 Wood : Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead 3 Hybrid : Hogan Edge CFT Hybrid 3 Irons : Hogan Apex ftx 3 iron Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4i-GW Wedge : Taylor Made 56 degree Vokey Sm8 60 degree s grind Putter: Evnroll ev11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbclub Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 (edited) So half bucket of range balls guy saved me. I grabbed my putter to go practice and realized when I got there that I forgot golf balls. Sure enough, half bucket guy had been there earlier and left all his balls everywhere. After knocking all the balls (30ish) to one general area off the green I used a couple to practice! I would have used the range bucket you usually just leave for someone else to pick up, but for some reason it was not there today. Thanks half bucket guy......You're a real American hero. Edited June 2 by pbclub goaliedad30, SliceBoss and Rob Person 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 On 5/24/2024 at 4:56 PM, cnosil said: In my opinion it depends on how many people are using the green. If I am there by myself I'll use a bucket/shag bag and if someone shows up I'll scale back to a handful of balls or play to a single hole. Don't care if they leave balls on the green, happens on some of the courses I play. Same here. I use my shag bag on the large practice area near us when I have it to myself or maybe just one or two others using it. If others show up, I just use fewer balls or stop hitting onto the green and just play to an open area target. To answer the OP's question and situation, yes I would view that as rude and selfish. Situational awareness and being courteous is difficult for some. Rob Person and pbclub 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Today's final round of the Kingsmill outing was interesting, around the practice green were buckets of balls set out for people to use for practice. When I left balls this evening, all the balls were scattered around the green. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyoymac Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 I really enjoy practicing chipping. Our course has two shag bags full of range balls at the practice chipping area. I will use those if I’m just warming up before a round and then pick the balls up with the shag bag and return it to it’s stand when I’m done. If I’m really practicing though I will target times of the day when the course is less busy and will first clear whatever balls are on the green and then use my own shag bag filled with my gamer balls. If other people show up I will take a break until they are done. pbclub, cnosil, GaDawg and 1 other 4 Quote Cobra LTDx LS 9.0 TPT Power Range 18 LO Cobra LTDx 3W lofted to 16.5 TPT 17 HI Tour Edge E723 21 degree Diamana Thump f85 S Cobra LTDx 24 degree 5 hybrid TPT 17 LO Corey Paul - 5 & 6 CB with KBS $-Taper 120 Stiff Black Corey Paul 7 - PW Japan Forged Minimalist Blades KBS $-Taper 120 Stiff Chrome Corey Paul Functional Art 52, 56 & 60 all with BGT ZNE shafts Odyssey O Works Black #7 with BGT Stability Tour Shaft, SuperStroke Traxion 3.0 & 75g CounterCore Bridgestone Tour BRX or MaxFli Tour Tracked by Arccos, Bushnell V4, Vessel Lux XV 2.0 bag, Bag Boy quad XL cart with Alphard V2 wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alii1959 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 There are things that happen on the practice green that make little sense to me. First, practicing with range balls. The balls you play with will react differently on the course. Why mess with yourself like that? Second, if you are going to use range balls, why not remove them from the green when you are done? Why leave them in other's way? Most of the folks at my home course are courteous and respectful. Most of us use 3 balls. There are two guys I know that use shag bags and spend time at one hole, pick up their balls, and leave. No problem with them. We have pros that come and practice and have unusual setups to work out putting issues. We have kids competing in Drive, Chip, and Putt (One won!). My point is that we have some serious people at the course working hard to improve. Very seldom have issues, but it is a private course. Rob Person and pbclub 2 Quote Cobra LTDx one-length 6-SW Cobra Aerojet 2,3,4,5 Hybrids--85g stiff shafts Cobra F8 10.5* Driver Cleveland CBX 58* Wedge Ping Anser2 G2 putter Dedicated Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyweb Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Public course player, we have two different greens one for putting one for chipping. It’s common practice to have 40+ range balls on the chipping green. People come and go and use what’s there. I bring my own balls during off peak. My beef is the guy who takes virtually all of those range balls for himself when there are others practicing. Rob Person and pbclub 2 Quote Driver PING G430 Max 10K Red Hzrdus Regular flex 3wood Taylormade Burner Fuji Pro 2.0 S 5w/7w PING G 430 Max Red Hzrdus Reg. 5 hybrid PING Anser 6i-AW Callaway Apex 21 Steelfiber i95 R 52/54/58 wedges PING s159 Putter Callaway Odyssey OG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker60521 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 @pbclub I can see how this can be frustrating as it seems like “half bucket” guy doesn’t know how to work with others in a shared space. Frankly, if he’s leaving balls on my line I’d just knock them away so as to mark off my workspace. Also, if someone is just tapping random putts without a work plan, he’s wasting time. Sounds a lot like he’s replicating his range work busy just banging away. I work most of my drills with 3-6 balls. Rob Person and pbclub 2 Quote Driver: Stealth2 3W: Stealth2 4H: Stealth 2 Irons 4I-9I: T200 Wedges P, 48: T200 Wedges 54, 58: Vokey SM9 Putter: O Works #1 Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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