Free online putting clinic with Phil Kenyon

[cnosil]

He typically does this once a year but Phil Kenyon is offering a 5 day online putting clinic.  Typically get a video in the morning with some drills to try and then they answer questions and do a webinar later in the day.   If interested you can see more details and signup here:

https://www.philkenyonputting.com/challenge/

Maybe you will find it helpful;  maybe not but wanted to share the info.   Yes,  you will be put on his email list and you will be sent information about joining his paid putting plan.     

 

[Josh Parker]

1 hour ago, cnosil said:

   Yes,  you will be put on his email list and you will be sent information about joining his paid putting plan. 

Haha. Love this warning. 

[Josh Parker]

4-6 strokes is huge gain!  Thanks for sharing this!  

[cnosil]

1 hour ago, Josh Parker said:

4-6 strokes is huge gain!  Thanks for sharing this!  

Not sure that is realistic,  but if it helps any it is a positive.   You can decide if he helped Scotty Scheffler with his putting.   

I've done it in the past and he provides some good fundamentals and ways to work on your putting.    

1 hour ago, Josh Parker said:

Haha. Love this warning. 

I think during the last webinar he talks about his putting academy and encourages you to sign up and you get a few emails that you can unsubscribe from.  Nothing horrible but figured I'd make it known.  

Edited September 30 by cnosil

[Josh Parker]

32 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Not sure that is realistic,  but if it helps any it is a positive.   You can decide if he helped Scotty Scheffler with his putting.   

I've done it in the past and he provides some good fundamentals and ways to work on your putting.    

I think during the last webinar he talks about his putting academy and encourages you to sign up and you get a few emails that you can unsubscribe from.  Nothing horrible but figured I'd make it known.  

Haha. I loved the warning because had you not put it, someone would have come back and said something about it. 

As for the strokes... maybe a new golfer or high handicap, it could drop that much. With practice of course. 

I signed up. Learning is always good!  

[cksurfdude]

Thanks for this! Know you've mentioned him before so must be worthwhile.

[cnosil]

10 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Thanks for this! Know you've mentioned him before so must be worthwhile.

It is like anything else.  Works for some doesn’t work for others.  Just sharing information with the forum so they know it is available.  I am a person that likes to learn all I can; especially putting.  

[cksurfdude]

13 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

 Learning is always good!  

 

1 hour ago, cnosil said:

I am a person that likes to learn all I can; especially putting.  

Yep and Yep! More knowledge is always a good thing; looking forward to this. 

So Chris is there any particular vid or drill, etc of Phil Kenyon's you suggest we look at before? Thx

[cnosil]

23 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

 

So Chris is there any particular vid or drill, etc of Phil Kenyon's you suggest we look at before? Thx

Nope.  I’d h just go through the program. Based on past ones he will start with basic assessment and build for there.  

[jbern]

I signed up! Looking forward to some tips. I assumed there would be some emails that would come as part of this. 
I saw in the initial registration email that you need to request to join the Facebook group. If you don’t have Facebook you need to contact them to get the material another way. 

[cnosil]

19 minutes ago, jbern said:

I signed up! Looking forward to some tips. I assumed there would be some emails that would come as part of this. 
I saw in the initial registration email that you need to request to join the Facebook group. If you don’t have Facebook you need to contact them to get the material another way. 

I have done a couple of these clinics and I get a couple of emails a month asking to join the paid side.   If you don’t like getting them you can always unsubscribe.  

[cksurfdude]

6 hours ago, jbern said:

I saw in the initial registration email that you need to request to join the Facebook group. If you don’t have Facebook you need to contact them to get the material another way. 

Oh good to know. I'm not on FB. Could someone who is please post on here a copy of whatever"homework" materials..? Thx!

[cnosil]

38 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

Oh good to know. I'm not on FB. Could someone who is please post on here a copy of whatever"homework" materials..? Thx!

we can do that.  I would respond to their email that you dont have facebook.   

[rkj427]

3 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Oh good to know. I'm not on FB. Could someone who is please post on here a copy of whatever"homework" materials..? Thx!

Me neither, but saw @cnosil response to you.

2 hours ago, cnosil said:

we can do that.  I would respond to their email that you dont have facebook.   

Did that, thank you!

[Indy_Oz]

On 9/30/2024 at 5:16 PM, cnosil said:

He typically does this once a year but Phil Kenyon is offering a 5 day online putting clinic.  Typically get a video in the morning with some drills to try and then they answer questions and do a webinar later in the day.   If interested you can see more details and signup here:

https://www.philkenyonputting.com/challenge/

Maybe you will find it helpful;  maybe not but wanted to share the info.   Yes,  you will be put on his email list and you will be sent information about joining his paid putting plan.     

 

Thanks for sharing this. I've signed up- nothing to lose but shots! My putting has improved recently, but I still have loads of room for improvement.

[cnosil]

Facebook group is open.   For those not on Facebook, did you get a link to a welcome  video?    
 

there is a brief intro video that says now is the perfect time to work on putting technique especially indoors as the weather gets poorer.  daily drills will be posted at about 6 AM UK time.    Need a couple of alignment rods and some elastic bands.  The video showed the chopstick drill and using the alignment sticks for alignment references.  

 

[RickM71]

2 hours ago, cnosil said:

Facebook group is open.   For those not on Facebook, did you get a link to a welcome  video?    
 

there is a brief intro video that says now is the perfect time to work on putting technique especially indoors as the weather gets poorer.  daily drills will be posted at about 6 AM UK time.    Need a couple of alignment rods and some elastic bands.  The video showed the chopstick drill and using the alignment sticks for alignment references.  

 

I watched the video and came here to comment about the "chopstick" drill. I've been taught what looks like a similar drill, but instead of rubber bands, just grabbing the spot they cross with thumb and forefinger of each hand. Taking strokes like that locks out the wrists and gives a feel for rocking the shoulders. You can then hold the alignment sticks and a putter all together to take practice strokes. 

On the flip side, I've seen some putting videos where they suggest you have at least some wrist flexion and extension during the swing as wrist movement is helpful for distance "feel". 

I'm curious if there is a majority view on this. 

I personally have found I do better on short putts with no wrist movement, and better on lag putts if I use a little wrist movement, but this could all be mental on my part influenced by what I've heard. 

[cnosil]

Day 1 drill:  Balance

place two alignment sticks on the floor and stand on them with the arches of your feet centered. You can rock a little; balance yourself heel to toe.  Mistake is players get to into the toes and have to recenter during the stroke.  When standing on the sticks get into posture;  you don’t want to go into the toes or heels.  Get yourself balanced.  Make some practice strokes and maintain the balance.  Then make some actual strokes.    Sense the even balance/pressure between balls of feet and heels.   

[jbern]

For those that do not have Facebook... I received an email yesterday from info@philkenyonputting.com that went to my "Junk" folder. It contained a login ID and password to access the lessons and as @cnosil posted, the Day 1 - Balance lesson is available!

[cnosil]

Day 2: pelvis stability

lay an alignment stick on the ground parallel to the target line.   Insert an alignment stick through your front belt loops.  Back up so that the alignment rod presses against a wall and make some strokes   Ensure you  are setup parallel to the rod on the floor and during the stroke make sure the rod doesn’t move on the wall.  On backstroke it shouldn’t press more against the wall, it shouldn’t move left or right which indicates and sway, or come away on the through stroke. 

 

[jbern]

Did anyone attend the zoom call yesterday? 

My day ended up being crazy busy, so I wasn't able to do the Day 1 - Balance lesson or attend the zoom. I have some catching up to do already!

[cnosil]

18 minutes ago, jbern said:

Did anyone attend the zoom call yesterday? 

My day ended up being crazy busy, so I wasn't able to do the Day 1 - Balance lesson or attend the zoom. I have some catching up to do already!

I did for a little,   He was in an airport and it was very noisy.   Supposed to be posting the video for replay.    You can join the one tonight….should be one very day. 

[cnosil]

Follow up QA session this morning after last nights webinar to get to the questions that weren’t answered.  
 

some high level  things that stood out to me.  

• the putter won’t make you a better player
• work on skills
• speed control requires consistent rhythm
• there is no single ideal stroke type 
• just putting at home rolling putts across the room on a mat probably isn’t helpful.  Work on rhythm, setup gates, etc.  do things to get feedback.
• Torque, forgiveness, lines, etc are fine tuning elements and won’t fix your putting 
• Systems for reading putts need to be explored and experimented with.
• length, aiming, loft, lie angle is the order of preference for fitting a putter.
• lead hand low can help with body alignment issues.
• as putts get longer you will need to leverage arms and hands more in the stroke.  Shorter putts are more torso.
• anyone can putt at the level of a tour player.  Ou need to understand concepts and work on key skills.

another webinar to answer questions will be at 7pm uk time.   

[cnosil]

Learned from todays drill that I have a tendency to slightly open the hips on the through stroke.    After doing yesterdays and todays drill you will definitely fell a solid lower body.     

[cnosil]

Day 3:  100 foot drill and torso movement

drill: setup 4 balls around a hole with a ball at 5, 10, 15, and 20 feet with a variety of slopes.   You will do this at 5 holes for a total of 20 putts.  Goal is to make 100ft (or whatever you baseline) first putts.   So if you make the 5 and 15 at the first hole your total is 20,   
 

torso movement:  this drill requires a little setup.  Using a box to elevate the first alignment rod set it up at the lie angle of your putter and tape the top to the wall.   With the second alignment rod use elastic bands on your arms to secure it to your chest.   Back into the vertical alignment rod and make strokes to ensure the rod goin across your chest stays on the vertical rod through the entire stroke and doesn’t press harder into the rod or come off the rod.  Your are trying to evaluate if you have the correct posture and matching torso movements.  
 

Per the description it is importantly to consider your posture as it will impact your ability to match the shaft plane.   If the plane feels steep forward bend more and see if that helps make it feel more natural.  Vise versa if it feels too flat

Edited October 11 by cnosil

[cnosil]

Day 4: arms on plane.  
 

using the same setup as day 3, move the bands and stick down to your forearms.    You should be able to see if your arms are aligned.  When making a stroke the rod should move up and down the plane stick.  If it is moving away, you are moving arms away from the plane.  If you are push8ng against the rod and feel tension in the bands you are moving inside.   Goal is to stay on plane through the entire stroke.  

Edited Saturday at 12:52 PM by cnosil

[cnosil]

Day 5: chopstick drills. 
 

put a band around the bottom 2 alignment sticks.  Separate the other end and put them under your armpits and put adjust the height so you hands fit in the V.  When making a stroke you should feel the torso movements and your hands and arms should be taken out if the stroke.   You can then get you putter; put you putter on the outside,  let the shaft rest on the V, and make some putts.   
 

after I did this drill and stopped using the chopsticks I felt like a ghost control of my stroke.  The things I didn’t like was that I get excessive putter droop on the backstroke and then hit all over the face.  I felt like I accomplished the other drills pretty effectively.  Not sure what is happening with this one.  

[cksurfdude]

@cnosil these are all great and THX!! for taking time to write it all down and post!

Monte is also big on the stick thru the front belt loops to check for turning the hips. Interestingly he's also a proponent of a firm grip on the putter (not too tight but definitely not loose).

[rkj427]

One thing I found out is that I am able to save the emails from Phil related to the 5 lessons, and when I open the link to the lesson/videos themselves, if I save them as a "favorite" in my web browser, they are available for me to review.

EDIT: This information is for those who DO NOT use Facebook to access his lessons, but rather receive a daily email from the initial sign-up.

I have practiced some of the lessons, hoping to get a few more sessions completed indoors while the weather here is wet, and then go to the practice green at the course nearby where I can attempt to 100 foot drill.

Thanks @cnosil for posting this link to the 5 Lessons here, as I am certain those that view them and practice them should see improvement.

Edited Monday at 01:22 AM by rkj427

[cnosil]

59 minutes ago, rkj427 said:

One thing I found out is that I am able to save the emails from Phil related to the 5 lessons, and when I open the link to the lesson/videos themselves, if I save them as a "favorite" in my web browser, they are available for me to review.

EDIT: This information is for those who DO NOT use Facebook to access his lessons, but rather receive a daily email from the initial sign-up.

I have practiced some of the lessons, hoping to get a few more sessions completed indoors while the weather here is wet, and then go to the practice green at the course nearby where I can attempt to 100 foot drill.

Thanks @cnosil for posting this link to the 5 Lessons here, as I am certain those that view them and practice them should see improvement.

If you want other stuff, he has a free pack on his website that addresses thinks like aim and startline.