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I ain't sayin'. Haha! I just know what causes the shaft distortion.

 

It seems odd to me that there was forward shaft bend halfway down like that though.

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The shaft seemingly being bent half way down is for the same reason that it is seemingly being bent at impact.  Focal plane distortion.  The camera still scans one line of pixels at a time.

 

Here is an article by Tutleman same guy who reviewed this swing. 

 

This Distortion Exaggerates Shaft Bend

Diagram1.gif If you apply the same technology to a releasing golf shaft, the result is a distortion-induced shaft bend. The diagram at the right shows how it happens. Here are the words to go with the picture:


  • We have a camera whose focal-plane shutter takes 20msec to go from the top of the shaft to the bottom.2
  • We have a perfectly straight shaft near its top speed. It is turning about 2º per millisecond, or 40º over the duration of the shutter movement. Once again, the shaft is not bent at any point in this scenario.
  • The horizontal dotted lines are the position of the shutter opening at 0 milliseconds, 5msec, 10msec, 15msec, and 20msec. The shaft position at each of these times is given by the corresponding-color solid line.
  • I have put a circle at the intersection of the corresponding-color lines. The circle is the position of the shaft seen by the film at the moment the slit focuses on it. If you connect these circles by a smooth curve, you will see all the fractional images of the shaft that the film sees.
  • I have "connected the dots" in exactly that way. The fat gray curve is the image of the shaft captured on film.

The point is that the image on the film shows a very curved shaft, but we know that the shaft was perfectly straight throughout this exercise. The apparent shaft bend is completely an artifact of the way the focal plane shutter exposes the film.

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So, this is analogous to the rolling wagon wheel illusion on film or tv in which the wheel appears to roll backwards while the wagon is going forward, due to the spoke rotations per second not being in sync with the fps of the camera.  Essentially, when the camera begins to capture the image, the shaft is straight, but the camera captures the image from top to bottom, and by the time the camera is capturing the bottom of the image, the clubhead has advanced well ahead of it's original position.

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Yes, but I do not see how it makes any difference.  it looks to me like his left arm is not really doing anything but his right arm is pushing.  Even if the club is flexed forward, the muscles in his left arm do not appear do be doing much but his right arm had extended.  When you look at his whole swing and not still photos of it, you see that he clearly did not generate enough body turn speed to "pull the clubhead around".

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No, he doesn't turn much.  He does the double pivot, especially with the driver. 

 

Double pivot?

 

Edit.  I do not know what that means exactly, but he takes much more turn with the driver than the irons.  I do also, which is what threw me off last weekend.

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It's the Shauger/Austin hip pivot if I'm not mistaken. Forgive me if I don't phrase it right, or am mis-attributing, but basically, he straightens the right leg during the backswing, then shifts the hips left and rotates on the downswing.  Here at around 13:10... http://youtu.be/ROCEDZ6jMWw, and this, 

 where he's clearly trying to achieve escape velocity.

 

So, IMO, and like Richard, I believe that the whole chain is responsible for generating the power in the swing,.  For me Richard, I find that "keying" on the right arm push from the top really helps me with my timing as I am able to hit the ball much straighter than when my left arm "pulls".  I don't know the reason, and I really don't care - I like the results.  Maybe it's because I'm spastic when I try to do things left handed.  Who knows? As I've said, I can only speak for myself, and am not trying to evangelize, just sharing, venting, etc.

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The shaft seemingly being bent half way down is for the same reason that it is seemingly being bent at impact. Focal plane distortion. The camera still scans one line of pixels at a time.

 

Here is an article by Tutleman same guy who reviewed this swing.

This Distortion Exaggerates Shaft Bend

Diagram1.gif If you apply the same technology to a releasing golf shaft, the result is a distortion-induced shaft bend. The diagram at the right shows how it happens. Here are the words to go with the picture:

 

  • We have a camera whose focal-plane shutter takes 20msec to go from the top of the shaft to the bottom.2
  • We have a perfectly straight shaft near its top speed. It is turning about 2º per millisecond, or 40º over the duration of the shutter movement. Once again, the shaft is not bent at any point in this scenario.
  • The horizontal dotted lines are the position of the shutter opening at 0 milliseconds, 5msec, 10msec, 15msec, and 20msec. The shaft position at each of these times is given by the corresponding-color solid line.
  • I have put a circle at the intersection of the corresponding-color lines. The circle is the position of the shaft seen by the film at the moment the slit focuses on it. If you connect these circles by a smooth curve, you will see all the fractional images of the shaft that the film sees.
  • I have "connected the dots" in exactly that way. The fat gray curve is the image of the shaft captured on film.
The point is that the image on the film shows a very curved shaft, but we know that the shaft was perfectly straight throughout this exercise. The apparent shaft bend is completely an artifact of the way the focal plane shutter exposes the film.

Yes, but when the shaft is horizontal, it's captured within a few lines of pixels because it is parallel to them instead of the shaft covering nearly half of the lines of pixels when it is vertical/perpendicular to them. You can eliminate the distortion at impact by turning the camera 90°×for the same reason. I've seen it done.

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Ahhh, ok, was not familiar with the term.  And of course it is the complete swing aides in the power.  Otherwise, he would stand there flat footed and swing just the right arm.

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Yes, but when the shaft is horizontal, it's captured within a few lines of pixels because it is parallel to them instead of the shaft covering nearly half of the lines of pixels when it is vertical/perpendicular to them. You can eliminate the distortion at impact by turning the camera 90°×for the same reason. I've seen it done.

 

Not exactly.  Turn the camera 180 not just 90.  By that I mean, first determine the place where you want the least distortion, typically at impact and which direction your camera actually scans.  Let us say for the sake of argument, that it scans left to right top to bottom of an iPhone.  The least amount of distortion would be in the top of the screen.  So if you turn the top of the phone down then now the shaft will be shown with the least amount of distortion at impact. 

 

You can only eliminate (reduce) the distortion in one direction.

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Not exactly. Turn the camera 180 not just 90. By that I mean, first determine the place where you want the least distortion, typically at impact and which direction your camera actually scans. Let us say for the sake of argument, that it scans left to right top to bottom of an iPhone. The least amount of distortion would be in the top of the screen. So if you turn the top of the phone down then now the shaft will be shown with the least amount of distortion at impact.

 

You can only eliminate (reduce) the distortion in one direction.

It reads each line left to right yes. But not left to right, top to bottom at the same time. It's line by line like reading a page. So 90° puts the shaft at impact within a few lines elimating almost any distortion. I've seen examples done with the same camera both ways. It works. But yes, just for the position you want to capture.

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Holy Sh!t, forget Mike Austin, he's tryin to copy Bones :)

 

BTW, Great round today!!

 

This is your year Bro!

 

And as an aside, with a backswing like this, well, you can do whatever the hell you want, lol

 

Talk to em Bones :)

 

Fairways & Greens My Friend,

Richard

Thanks. I've actually used some of this guys stuff and have had some success, today it all came together. My swing is nothing comparable to this guys, but I've put some of his "theories" in place.

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Weird thing. . I spent all winter and what we had of spring .. Slamming the club down taking divots . But today, I had no divot to little and caught it clean as a whistle . I felt the push slap at the bottom , and I felt the load behind my back . My neck felt like it tilts slightly right during transition .. Keeping shoulders and upper body back as I push slapped ..just weird no divots .

 

This new exotics xcg6 goes super super bullet low straight . Super accurate club , but 10 yards shorter than Diablo octane 10 degree . Low bullet accurate

 

Thanks rich

 

Ball was blurry .. Slammed down with no divot .. Picked them clean

 

The radius created by the left arm keeps it from digging in.  I am having just a touch of difficulty in that I am raising up and catching it just a bit thin, but working on it.

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I'm seeing something similar to you Rick. Hitting just a groove low. Center or slightly heel on club, but below the sweet spot. I still have to use a "traditional" driver swing, but I'm hitting fairways pretty well.

 

So far, I've seen great improvement in striking. Misses are low on the club, but definitely centered. I need to get some sessions on video to create checkpoints of comparison.

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