ole gray Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'd be interested in hearing from some of you low handicappers about your elbows during the swing? Bobby Jones advocated keeping the elbows close together. What are your thoughts? Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I guess I qualify as a low handicap. Honestly I don't think about my elbows during the swing, but they are close to together during the swing. It is probably due to my turning the right are under so the bend in my arm faces more up than left. What are you trying to accomplish? Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 This is more about the consensus of good golfers concerning the elbows as a unit. I have an old dude at my course that is very consistent and he pretty much keeps those elbows snug. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Looked at a couple of videos of my swing and I wouldn't say that they are snug. You can take a look for yourself and judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vC6WHR8xvg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrzFJs_VMc Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Looked at a couple of videos of my swing and I wouldn't say that they are snug. You can take a look for yourself and judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vC6WHR8xvg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrzFJs_VMc What a beautiful golf swing! I LOVE your timing and free flowing release. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 This is my feelings on the elbow thing: To be honest, this ONE thing in Hogan's book, goofed me up for years. It is physically impossible for me to make much of a backswing with my left arm in the position shown in his book. Right arm? Sure, it points at the hip. But the only way I can turn with my left elbow pointing inward is I must rotate my left arm from the shoulder socket, which creates a big inside move on the way back. At impact, the left arm has the elbow pointing basically down the line, not at your hip. Some old timer gave me this tip years ago, and this is the position I decided to start with, as that is where I wanted to get back to. From there, I could take the club straight back and not way back inside with a rotating arm. Post impact it rotates left but at impact, straight down the line. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Thanks for the compliment on the swing. Have a couple of things I am working on; I am trying to shorten it a bit to avoid the shift forward at the end of the backswing so I can stay behind the ball through the downswing. Regarding your swing, I fully support the approach of doing what you can to make the swing. A golf swing is personal and you have to do what you can physically do to get the club from address to impact. This is why I avoid reading, watching videos, or listening to someone that I haven't talked with about my swing and working on specific areas. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Now, I'm not even close to an expert. I couldn't even carry an experts clubs for them. But, I'd like to weigh in and not sure if it will help. I'm not sure about keeping your elbows close, however I've heard you should keep your upper arms close to body. Which if you try it, it does bring your elbows closer together. I myself have tried this and had moderate success. But, being the high handicapper I am, with no lessons yet, I take what I know and have learned in many places and do what's most comfortable for me. If I try to many things, it's slices and worm burners all day. Sent from my SM-G920V using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Looked at a couple of videos of my swing and I wouldn't say that they are snug. You can take a look for yourself and judge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vC6WHR8xvg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrzFJs_VMc Nice swing! Oh, to be young again!! At impact, the left arm has the elbow pointing basically down the line, not at your hip. Some old timer gave me this tip years ago, and this is the position I decided to start with, as that is where I wanted to get back to. From there, I could take the club straight back and not way back inside with a rotating arm. Post impact it rotates left but at impact, straight down the line. Exactly the single plane swing. The club doesn't actually go straight back, but comes inside with your body rotation. When the body stops rotating, the trail arm folds bringing the club up and putting the club on the same plane as at address. Then it's just a matter of rotating your lower body and bringing the club down to impact with hands leading. Easy peasy, lemon squeazy! “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Ive always kept the right elbow in slightly but honestly for me it's not something I really focus on. If I hit the right spot at the top then my elbow did right in the backswing but it's different for everyone. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My $0.02 from another UN-low-handicapper ;-) Ole Gray - I think the term you're referring to is "connected" .. ie. the arms stay what the teachers call connected with the body through the backswing and then through the downswing... CNosil does a *beautiful* job of this!!! There are no "flying elbows" nor "chicken wings". Hopefully this pic comes thru clear enough -- here is Julius Boros' instruction on position of the right (for right-handers) elbow during the backswing.... Side note: There's another interesting thread somewhere about baseball swings vs golf swings .. including talk about the back elbow... WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 My $0.02 from another UN-low-handicapper ;-) Ole Gray - I think the term you're referring to is "connected" .. ie. the arms stay what the teachers call connected with the body through the backswing and then through the downswing... CNosil does a *beautiful* job of this!!! There are no "flying elbows" nor "chicken wings". Hopefully this pic comes thru clear enough -- here is Julius Boros' instruction on position of the right (for right-handers) elbow during the backswing.... IMG_20161229_110514282.jpg Side note: There's another interesting thread somewhere about baseball swings vs golf swings .. including talk about the back elbow... Bingo . Steve Stricker has a beautiful "connected" move through the ball. It looks so pure and simple. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My teacher is constantly on me about tucking my right elbow Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 My teacher is constantly on me about tucking my right elbow Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app About not tucking? I look at it this way, you're either a tucker, or you're not. Non Tucker's like Jack Nicklaus somehow got er done so I suppose there's more ways to skin a catfish Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm not Jack Nicklaus and neither is anyone here just like I'm not Salvador Dali or Dizzy Gillespie. The greats break convention. For the rest of us it's best to find the most efficient way to swing the club which is tucking the right elbow in. Ultimately though you need to learn to play with the swing and ball flight that you have fitting it into the course that you're playing to shoot the lowest possible score. I actually had to shoot away from the green from 176 yesterday. I didn't like the front pin over water with the best result being a slick 40 do it down holler whether I tuck my elbow on the five iron or not. I shot away from the green and water, ended up short left, pitched to 2 feet and wrote 38 down for my front nine. That's something that I wouldn't have done when I was 20, 30, 40 or even 50. So you asked low handicappers about keeping the arms close or not. I'm a low handicapper who has had 3 teachers in his career plus attended a Jimmy Ballard and all advocated keeping the elbow tucked or staying connected. Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm not Jack Nicklaus and neither is anyone here just like I'm not Salvador Dali or Dizzy Gillespie. The greats break convention. For the rest of us it's best to find the most efficient way to swing the club which is tucking the right elbow in. Ultimately though you need to learn to play with the swing and ball flight that you have fitting it into the course that you're playing to shoot the lowest possible score. I actually had to shoot away from the green from 176 yesterday. I didn't like the front pin over water with the best result being a slick 40 do it down holler whether I tuck my elbow on the five iron or not. I shot away from the green and water, ended up short left, pitched to 2 feet and wrote 38 down for my front nine. That's something that I wouldn't have done when I was 20, 30, 40 or even 50. So you asked low handicappers about keeping the arms close or not. I'm a low handicapper who has had 3 teachers in his career plus attended a Jimmy Ballard and all advocated keeping the elbow tucked or staying connected. Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I trust the Rev . Happy New Years partner! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 You as well. Sent from my VS986 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Canoer Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Well if you simply state "keep the right elbow tucked in" you must clarify it to "on the backswing for the first half reach out with both arms stretched as far as physically possible then as the backswing continues the right elbow will naturally tuck in". Now on the downswing keep the right elbow tucked in until you swing out stretching the right arm following through to target,blah, blah, blah But as The Rev states every golfer out there is unique and physically different which is why you need a good instructor watching "YOU" and tweaking your swing.All this to say that Ole Gray is right about keeping the elbow in but all in moderation so to say.I am not an instructor however I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night ⛳ Here is a good YouTube video showing what I mean. 5 part series but still wortth going through them all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-VQ8DYu09E&list=PLuW6Y8xF1injwRjr5wlwRFKMe_NyJGmDnSent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy WITB - Driver - TaylorMade M2 - Stiff flex / 12.5* 3 & 7 Wood - TaylorMade M2 6i -Gap - TaylorMade M4- Stiff flex Wedges - TaylorMade ATV 55* & 60* Putter - Odyssey 2 Ball Ball - Titleist Pro V1 Bushnell Tour V3 rangefinder Right Handed Neutral lie on all clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Well if you simply state "keep the right elbow tucked in" you must clarify it to "on the backswing for the first half reach out with both arms stretched as far as physically possible then as the backswing continues the right elbow will naturally tuck in". Now on the downswing keep the right elbow tucked in until you swing out stretching the right arm following through to target,blah, blah, blah ðŸŒï¸ But as The Rev states every golfer out there is unique and physically different which is why you need a good instructor watching "YOU" and tweaking your swing. All this to say that Ole Gray is right about keeping the elbow in but all in moderation so to say. I am not an instructor however I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night â›³ï¸ Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Lol some awesome advice & wisdom in this thread. Thanks guys for the input ðŸŒï¸ Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Good stuff in here guys. Thanks. Sent from my LG-D850 using MyGolfSpy mobile app G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I can say for me that if I don't keep left elbow connected during my swing, and let it fly away from my body, my ball start right and continue going right. (Nasty pull hook) I can tell about half through the downswing that it happened, but it's too late, so I grab a new ball and try again. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanSterlingPrice Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 About not tucking? I look at it this way, you're either a tucker, or you're not. Non Tucker's like Jack Nicklaus somehow got er done so I suppose there's more ways to skin a catfish Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy but the catfish won't like any of them Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Right Handed 4.5 handicap Driver: Nike Vapor Flex with Mitsubishi Rayon Fubuki ZT60x5ct S-flex shaft and stock grip. 3-Metal: Nike VRS 15 degree with Mitsubishi Rayon tour issue Diamana S73x5ct X-flex shaft and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grip. Irons: Ben Hogan PTx 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46 degrees standard length and lie with KBS Tour-V stiff shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Wedges: Ben Hogan TK15 54, 58 degrees with KBS Tour-V X-flex shafts and GolfPride MCC midsize Black/White grips. Putter: Nike Method Converge B1|01 with Superstroke Flatso 2.0 grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Chipping around the green costing ya strokes? Try this: http://www.golf.com/instruction/how-hanger-can-turn-your-flubbed-shots-tap-ins Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 O. G. Here is a snapshot of one of my Golftec lessons. (me & Adam Scott) We were doing comparisons. I straightened out my leg cause of back injury... I digress. Check out our elbows Sent from my SM-N910V using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 O. G. Here is a snapshot of one of my Golftec lessons. (me & Adam Scott) We were doing comparisons. I straightened out my leg cause of back injury... I digress. Check out our elbows 2017-01-08 17.27.14.jpg Sent from my SM-N910V using MyGolfSpy mobile app I'm no swing coach but it looks good to me! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 O. G. Here is a snapshot of one of my Golftec lessons. (me & Adam Scott) We were doing comparisons. I straightened out my leg cause of back injury... I digress. Check out our elbows 2017-01-08 17.27.14.jpg Sent from my SM-N910V using MyGolfSpy mobile app Nice outfit! If you had a white hat, I couldn't tell you and Scott apart. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 O. G. Here is a snapshot of one of my Golftec lessons. (me & Adam Scott) We were doing comparisons. I straightened out my leg cause of back injury... I digress. Check out our elbows 2017-01-08 17.27.14.jpg Sent from my SM-N910V using MyGolfSpy mobile app The elbows are the same, but if you look at your wrists, you can see how you're left wrist is cupped, and his is flat. Which would mean that the clubhead is in a different position during the transition. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrodelle Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I thought I have always used when I start struggling is to imagine a delicate string tying my elbows together and swing so I don't break it. Seems to work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 I thought I have always used when I start struggling is to imagine a delicate string tying my elbows together and swing so I don't break it. Seems to work for me I like this swing thought! Every time I had a pre swing thought of keeping my elbows together I hit the ball in the fairway off the tee. When I started flipping em like a Texas bull in a Saturday night rodeo, all hell broke loose. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchmeoutside Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The elbows are the same, but if you look at your wrists, you can see how you're left wrist is cupped, and his is flat. Which would mean that the clubhead is in a different position during the transition. Yes exactly. Cupped wrist at the top can cause issues squaring the clubface at impact. Taylormade M1 Titleist 816 H1 Titleist 916 AP1 4-GW 52,56,60 Vokey Wedges 64 Mack Daddy PM Grind Wedge Ping Ketsch mid putter Titleist deluxe cart bag TecTecTec range finder CaddyTek EZ-Fold 3 Wheel Golf Push Cart Country Club Elite® Hitting Strip 10"x30" Rukket Haack Golf Net By SEC Coach Chris Haack 10 X 7ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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