Popular Post cnosil Posted November 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2020 As we look at golf and the golf swing, there is a lot of emphasis on using the ground to generate speed. The question is do you really know what that means and do you actually use the ground? There is a training aid, called the force pedal (https://theforcepedal.com/), that teaches you how to feel the ground on your swings which is being endorsed by hall of fame teacher Mike Adams. Mike Adams is a gadget guy and leans toward biometrics on how a person should swing. When looking at the swing, there are three things that are used to generate speed: As the player starts the downswing, there is a lateral shift that moves pressure toward the target When the arm reaches parallel rotation starts When the shaft reaches parallel vertical forces start All three are performed in your swing but in different amounts. If you look at the swings of Justin Thomas and new LPGA bomber Bianca Pagdanganan you can see how much effort they put into ground forces as they actually leave the ground. I found the product via one of the many ads that popup in my facebook feed so I looked at the side since one of the things they say you get is increased clubhead speed. The other day on Instagram Harry was showing off the aid while he was performing his review of the product (expect his thoughts on the main page soon). I sent a message to Harry saying I wanted to try them out and since they have an open door I was told to come on in. Today was the day I stopped by and gave them a go. Packaging was pretty basic as shown below. A resealable bag with 2 force pedals; orange is the softer and yellow is the firmer one. There are lots of videos on the products website that illustrate how to use the aids. Since I have been reading the website, I was familiar with how to use them. I started with the yellow one (yep right to the advanced option!!!) and grabbed a Honma TR20V 7 iron and hit a few shots to get a baseline distance for the day.....160 seemed to be todays number. Put the yellow pedal under the ball of my foot and made a few swings. I also tried it under the middle of my left foot, and with the orange pedal under my right heel. Based on what I felt, I do not effectively use the ground forces and I could feel the pedal pushing up as the club approached impact. Did I get more distance? Yep, started hitting it about 170/175. I then tried swinging without the pedal and was able to duplicate the feeling. Picked up the closest driver (Ping G410 LST) and took a few swings. Not the best driver for me, but swing was in the 112 range with 162 ball speed and about 270 carry (low spin and high on face). I switched to the orange pedal and did some short game shots. This seemed to result in better ball contact. At $49.99 it is a relatively inexpensive aid and you can take a quiz online that will get you a 10% off discount code. At this point I am going to continue to use the training and see if I can generate some more speed. Will this aid benefit you? I think the answer depends on whether you currently use ground forces as part of your swing. If you use ground forces effectively it probably won't provide any benefit. For someone like me, it showed my were I could possibly generate some additional power and speed. For those that don't want the expense, tennis balls halves have been discussed in the videos. sirchunksalot, JohnSmalls, fixyurdivot and 8 others 11 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWilson216 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Great review! I have had my eye on this for awhile, along with so many other training aids. However, this one seems very beneficial and replaces the old tennis ball cut in half trick that we've all seen. Thanks and continue to update us please! cnosil and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: TSR3 * - Tensei AV White 65 X Fairway Wood: TS2 16.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65 S Hybrids: TS2 19.0* - Tensei AV Blue 70HY S Irons 5-GW: JPX 921 Hot Metal - Pro Nippon Modus 3 Tour 105 S Wedges Vokey 54 | 58 | Putter: ER Ball: ProV1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I've heard if you cut a Callaway Chrome Soft in half and use it under 1 foot, it works just as well. cksurfdude, cnosil, MattF and 3 others 4 2 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots68 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I'm kinda wondering how much this will help a more average speed swinger. Will they actually gain yards or because their mechanics aren't as sound will it just produce more wild swings. cksurfdude, Kenny B and tony@CIC 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Patriots68 said: I'm kinda wondering how much this will help a more average speed swinger. Will they actually gain yards or because their mechanics aren't as sound will it just produce more wild swings. I'm guessing B. Swing a few times; doesn't feel right; hit some worse than normal shots; toss it. I suppose if you stuck with it long enough, like any other training aid, there would be a benefit. tony@CIC and cksurfdude 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Interesting. Sorry but I have to.... “may the force be with you!” I think this would benefit me possibly, I’m rather flat footed when I swing. tony@CIC, cnosil, cksurfdude and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Patriots68 said: I'm kinda wondering how much this will help a more average speed swinger. Will they actually gain yards or because their mechanics aren't as sound will it just produce more wild swings. That is ultimately the question with any training aid. Harry did a review on the main site and we talked about it when I went to try them out. Per the article Harry wrote he felt it didn't help his swing while I felt there were some benefits with mine. I have only done one session with them and I did see some improvement. While both Harry and I would be considered high swing speed, I would guess that the same would apply to slower swing speed players. those that use the ground effectively probably won't see much gain. If you don't use the ground you will gain some. Swing speed isn't about mechanics; you can have perfect mechanics and still have a slower swing speed and you can have terrible mechanics by high speed. My personal opinion is that this aid helps with the proper sequencing within the swing. If you can sequence properly, you can increase your speed. sirchunksalot, cksurfdude and tony@CIC 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots68 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I don't know if it would help or hurt in my case, I expect overspeed training would hurt as I struggle to control the club face sometimes, I definitely struggle with weight shift at times. Unfortunately for me I am away for work for months at a time and get a lot of time to hit into nets and get to play an executive course from time to time but when I am home family demands limiting my playing and especially practice time so its tough to get in the benefit of lessons. These aren't that expensive so I might try to pick up a set and try them out. I just hate to waste practice time as it's pretty valuable to me. tony@CIC and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Patriots68 said: I don't know if it would help or hurt in my case, I expect overspeed training would hurt as I struggle to control the club face sometimes, Overspeed training isn't about clubface; it is about creating more speed. To generate speed, you also have to learn to sequence properly. One of the things I want to try is using the force pedals in combination with the superspeed sticks to see if I can generate some additional speed. JohnSmalls, sirchunksalot, tony@CIC and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Due to things outside of my control I haven't gotten a lot of time to work with the force pedals. That said, during some driver testing today, I tried to apply the feels that I had gotten from my limited use. Early swings were in the 111/112 range and after I got truly warmed up I topped out at 117.7. While I can't say it was definitely related to the force pedals, I am really happy with that kind of speed and I had many in the 116/117 range so it wasn't a fluke. Maybe I can get myself up to 120+ sirchunksalot, MattF, tony@CIC and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Holy Hedoublehockeysticks! Talk about hitting out of your shoes. I just caught a segment on TGC with a swing coach (did not catch the name) talking about ground force and specifically how Jack Nicklaus used this. He spoke about stance width and attaining the correct balance of fore/aft weight - which, if correct, should result in some minor burning feel in the thigh muscles. He also said this is why so many pros employ a back n' forth waggle on the pre shot routine. My dog has a KONG toy that, cut in half, would look alot like the training aid... cksurfdude, cnosil, MattF and 2 others 5 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 @cnosil - Are you still using these? I finally got around to cutting a tennis ball in half last night and the results were pretty cool! I don't think I could hit balls with the balls under my feet, but I took a few practice swings to get the feel. Then I removed the balls and replicated that feel in a full swing. I wasn't hitting balls but had my radar with me and saw quite the jump from before using the balls under my feet. tony@CIC, cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, edingc said: @cnosil - Are you still using these? I finally got around to cutting a tennis ball in half last night and the results were pretty cool! I don't think I could hit balls with the balls under my feet, but I took a few practice swings to get the feel. Then I removed the balls and replicated that feel in a full swing. I wasn't hitting balls but had my radar with me and saw quite the jump from before using the balls under my feet. Haven’t used them in a while. Right now my swing is a mess and I feel like I can barely hit the ball. BIG STU, tony@CIC, sirchunksalot and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 23 hours ago, cnosil said: Haven’t used them in a while. Right now my swing is a mess and I feel like I can barely hit the ball. I had read through this this morning bored as heck not with the article just in general. My take on it is that it will help some folks--- others like me it will not. Now days I do not balance well so it would throw me off. I have in the past done the same drill with a Pool Noodle filled with sand and duct taped on the ends to keep the sand in but had balance and timing issues even pre accident. But I can see the benefit of being a traing tool especially for someone getting started once they get the basic fundementals down some tony@CIC, cnosil, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- - 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R---- Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex steel shafts--- SW -- Cleveland 588 56* S-400 Sensicore --- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Fluted Bulls Eye shaft--- Bag TM Flex Lite Stand---- Yeah I know only 11 clubs G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 15, 2021 Author Share Posted December 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, BIG STU said: I had read through this this morning bored as heck not with the article just in general. My take on it is that it will help some folks--- others like me it will not. Now days I do not balance well so it would throw me off. I have in the past done the same drill with a Pool Noodle filled with sand and duct taped on the ends to keep the sand in but had balance and timing issues even pre accident. But I can see the benefit of being a traing tool especially for someone getting started once they get the basic fundementals down some The golf swing is about balance am maintaining that balance. If is also about applying the forces at the right time to generate speed. Loose balance or apply rotational, horizontal, or vertical forces at the wrong time and you loose efficiency. Mark Crossfield did some interesting videos where he applied forces differently and showed the impact to the resulting shot. He used a force plate to show when the pressures were being applied. I think you also have to consider the age if the golfer. Swing theory has changed a lot since you learned the game and probably isnt how you swing the club. Also, your physical limitations influence you swing as well. tony@CIC, BIG STU, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 8 hours ago, cnosil said: The golf swing is about balance am maintaining that balance. If is also about applying the forces at the right time to generate speed. Loose balance or apply rotational, horizontal, or vertical forces at the wrong time and you loose efficiency. Mark Crossfield did some interesting videos where he applied forces differently and showed the impact to the resulting shot. He used a force plate to show when the pressures were being applied. I think you also have to consider the age if the golfer. Swing theory has changed a lot since you learned the game and probably isnt how you swing the club. Also, your physical limitations influence you swing as well. Applying the forces in time is refered to basically as Linear Dynamics---- It also applies to mechanical things like shaft loading etc on golf clubs. And absolutely the golf swing has changed dramatically since I took up the game. Old school thought was to keep the feet planted through the swing until follow through and then be up on the trailing toe on the follow through. I have always had bad balance compared to others even when I was young. My whole swing is more or less natural and I mainly go by feel. I have always had what is called now Happy Feet in other words my feet move to maintain balance. Guys like my old man called it shuffling. You can tell on the range where I have hit like 50 balls or so where my feet are will look like the aftermath of a chicken fight in a farmyard. LOL it looked worse back in the metal spike days. One of the reasons Tiger had the left knee problem IMHO and Lee Trevino's was that his swing was fast and powerful and he was taught old school and that left foot never moved. The generated forces had him snapping that left knee violently and you know the rest of that story. And yes I had to change some after my back injury and am still in the process of basically reinventing myself. My wife was at some kind of ladies thing the other day. Another lady asked how my back was coming along? A 3rd lady lady remarked that probably the reason I hurt my back was because I played so much golf. My wife pulls no punches either and told her frankly BS that I got hurt in a work related accident not because of golf. My wife also added that I had been playing golf long enough to know how to swing without hurting myself Yes the kids today are better atheletes than we were and advancements have been made in physical training to make these new swings possible cksurfdude, edingc, sirchunksalot and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- - 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R---- Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex steel shafts--- SW -- Cleveland 588 56* S-400 Sensicore --- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Fluted Bulls Eye shaft--- Bag TM Flex Lite Stand---- Yeah I know only 11 clubs G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Ill check in a year later. Any improvement with this @cnosil? I heard that these are better than tennis balls as they let you feel the ground force more. @edingchow do you feel about that statement? I am interested in these as i struggle getting my weight forward. Some of my slowest swings speed training are the step drill and the stomp drills end up being my fastest. cksurfdude, tony@CIC and edingc 3 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS TD Cat 4 60g 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter:Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: Prime 4.0 Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize Glove: My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said: Ill check in a year later. Any improvement with this @cnosil? I heard that these are better than tennis balls as they let you feel the ground force more. @edingchow do you feel about that statement? I am interested in these as i struggle getting my weight forward. Some of my slowest swings speed training are the step drill and the stomp drills end up being my fastest. I haven’t used them in a while. I agree they are better than tennis balls. Are you doing specific force pedal protocols? https://superspeedgolf.com/pages/force-pedal-protocols tony@CIC and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, cnosil said: I haven’t used them in a while. I agree they are better than tennis balls. Are you doing specific force pedal protocols? https://superspeedgolf.com/pages/force-pedal-protocols I was gonna see how you guys felt about them and go from there on making my buy decision, so no I haven't cksurfdude and tony@CIC 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS TD Cat 4 60g 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter:Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: Prime 4.0 Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize Glove: My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I never progressed beyond the tennis balls. I did feel like the tennis balls helped me feel transfer a little better, pressure location and transfer are things I struggle with big time. I'll have to take out the balls again soon and mess around with them some more. I'm sure the Force Pedals are much nicer and easier to use. cksurfdude, tony@CIC and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 So i cut up a tennis ball and used it a little during my speed work today. My speed is a little down due to gym training. With the ball it was slower but taking that feeling got me higher than my swings before the ball. Will try to implement when i go into maintenance mode. cksurfdude and tony@CIC 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS TD Cat 4 60g 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter:Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: Prime 4.0 Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize Glove: My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, bocaf said: Anyone give this a go? Not shilling at all, do not know these guys. Price seems a bit out of whack. I would have been all over it at $29, $49 is a bit crazy. Not sure what you are asking. I used them for a bit but haven’t pulled them out in a while. Price of all golf related things things is high; $50 seems about right for this type of aid. cksurfdude and tony@CIC 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 11/13/2020 at 8:44 PM, cnosil said: My personal opinion is that this aid helps with the proper sequencing within the swing. If you can sequence properly, you can increase your speed. Just catching up on this thread .. and just an fyi .. I've used these at physical therapy (after my hip replacement) and they did seem to help with regaining balance and proprioception, plus helping rebuild the fine motor muscles that aid in stance and posture. ** Addendum: We did *NOT* do speed training! In fact, quite the opposite - he had me take a golf posture to start, slowly do a turn back, pause .. slowly back to address, pause .. slowly turn through, pause ... .... tony@CIC and cnosil 2 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numerouno Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Has anyone used the mini version? They are more affordable but not sure what the use case difference is between larger pedals. tony@CIC and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRichard Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) On 1/13/2023 at 6:46 PM, Numerouno said: Has anyone used the mini version? They are more affordable but not sure what the use case difference is between larger pedals. I haven't used the mini version but I did try the force pedal in increasing my clubhead speed. Here's a great tutorial on how to use the force pedal: I've been busy trimming concrete for my home renovation. I miss golf! Edited March 15, 2023 by MrRichard cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Another fyi here's a short reel on Insta from Monte Scheinblum - note what appear to be force pedals under the golfer's feet... https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqtgvGkAqZ8/?igshid=MWQ2ODkyMjM= sirchunksalot 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meow Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) On 11/14/2020 at 7:08 AM, cnosil said: Overspeed training isn't about clubface; it is about creating more speed Roofing Services Kenmore WA. To generate speed, you also have to learn to sequence properly. One of the things I want to try is using the force pedals in combination with the superspeed sticks to see if I can generate some additional speed. That sounds like a great plan! Using force pedals in combination with superspeed sticks can help you focus on generating more speed through proper sequencing. It's all about maximizing your potential for speed and power in your swing. Good luck with your training! Edited September 7 by meow Some Awnser Changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 just received the speed sticks, and force pedals in the mail, put them to use, see how things progress! I know I am currently terrible at using the ground to make any power, I'm basically all an arm swinger. so in theory, should be some room for speed gains through better (any) sequencing. Quote we got a pool and a pond... the pond would be good for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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