Goober Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Does the transition feel for you become a push , pull; or both push and pull? Not sure where I read it. But it was a long debate on this topic. or is it certain areas of the transition feel like one or the other at different junctures of the swing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 I should’ve also mentioned that in transition in the Downswing into the finish. My feel is a pushing with the left hand and an opening of the club with the right hand. So I’m pushing towards the target with my left lead hand. But my right back wrist is pulling back the club face keeping it square or even a slightly open feel anyone have this feeling? Or different ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 10:51 PM, Goober said: Does the transition feel for you become a push , pull; or both push and pull? I'm not sure if you're trying to discern a problem you are having or if it is just one of those puzzling things, that I often find myself asking about many, many things. But I can assure you though that when it comes to swinging a golf club, that falls into the category of things, that I purposely don't ever think about. Other things in this category are, takeaway, swing plane/arc, weight transfer, wrist hinge or lack thereof, and likely many others that I am unaware of because I don't think of them. I simply find the less I think about my golf swing the better I play. That is a lot of words to simply say, I haven't ever thought of it, nor do I intend to. Because the more I think about technical things the worse I play. Goober 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Here’s a goo short video. Jake has lots of good content that demonstrates feels and movements. Goober 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Sam Snead said the swing was a pull with the leading arm. Even though he was one of the best ever, that still only tells you what he FELT. Other great golfers seem to really feel the movement of the right arm in the downswing. Whatever works for you. Goober 1 Quote 14 of the following: Taylormade Qi10 Max Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Titleist TSR1 hybrid 26 degrees Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Ping G430 irons 6-50 degree Sub 70 286 wedges 52 and 56 degrees Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 ... The classic old school golf swing was a pulling down of the left arm from the top of the backswing and a swinging motion. The modern swing is more of a right arm push and hit than a true swing. Personally I think using both hands and arms produces less problems but truthfully whatever works for you and is your natural tendency will always be best in the long run. Golf magazines make a living on confusing instructions because there really isn't just one swing that works for all golfers, especially if you are caught between the two but fully doing neither. ... And then of course as already mentioned what we feel like we are doing and what we are doing can be quite different. PMookie, Goober and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mywong23 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, chisag said: ... The classic old school golf swing was a pulling down of the left arm from the top of the backswing and a swinging motion. The modern swing is more of a right arm push and hit than a true swing. Personally I think using both hands and arms produces less problems but truthfully whatever works for you and is your natural tendency will always be best in the long run. Golf magazines make a living on confusing instructions because there really isn't just one swing that works for all golfers, especially if you are caught between the two but fully doing neither. ... And then of course as already mentioned what we feel like we are doing and what we are doing can be quite different. absolutely ...... :) Goober 1 Quote Titleist 915 D2 beryllium Ping eye2 Vokey wedges Odessey 2 ball putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drjacko Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Jim Hardy's 'The Release: Golf's Moment of Truth' will probably help to frame the question and probably give a guide on what to look for in seeking the answer. The biggest problem is only half the book will apply to most readers! Goober 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madboy76 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 It's more of a push for me because I have a tendency to pull my body through impact. If I have the mindset of pulling, I'll get too steep and come over a bit. Your feelings of the downswing need to match up with your tendencies. I think many people who tend to stay back on their rear side too much might benefit from thinking about pulling. Goober 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 All great replies. I do concur that this is a feel i have. And maybe one day I can figure how to film my swing and post it here. So my pull might be a push feel .. and my push feel might indeed be a pull. But I do feel as I play my best when my hands are turning opposite of each other In transition. As odd as this sounds. They are turning away from each other versus ringing out a towel feeling 23 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Here’s a goo short video. Jake has lots of good content that demonstrates feels and movements. Now that is a great video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 How about this? In a a one plane swing it is a pull and in a 2 plane swing it is a push. Think about it. If you are going to come down on the same place, pulling the club down is a pretty easy swing thought. However, in a modern 2 plane swing, where the swing is wide going back and narrow coming down, then the right side has to push the club through. Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 5:19 PM, Beakbryce said: How about this? In a a one plane swing it is a pull and in a 2 plane swing it is a push. Think about it. If you are going to come down on the same place, pulling the club down is a pretty easy swing thought. However, in a modern 2 plane swing, where the swing is wide going back and narrow coming down, then the right side has to push the club through. This is an interesting response. And I concur. I think I play my best with a one plane style of a swing. As the more speed I add the tighter it feels. Which would be more of a pushing feel thru impact. Where the handle feels like it is accelerating first before the clubhead Now when I practice, and my swing speed drops down to half. And I’m focusing mainly on ball to face contact..versus results. Than I have a true two plane loopy action going on. As I’m sure many of you all do. And it is more of a pushing feel and flippy at Impact. that is just my follow up to your post. And it does make sense. When we add speed the circle becomes more one versus a two plane loopy loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 9:37 AM, Goober said: This is an interesting response. And I concur. I think I play my best with a one plane style of a swing. As the more speed I add the tighter it feels. Which would be more of a pushing feel thru impact. Where the handle feels like it is accelerating first before the clubhead Now when I practice, and my swing speed drops down to half. And I’m focusing mainly on ball to face contact..versus results. Than I have a true two plane loopy action going on. As I’m sure many of you all do. And it is more of a pushing feel and flippy at Impact. that is just my follow up to your post. And it does make sense. When we add speed the circle becomes more one versus a two plane loopy loop Thank you for the feedback. I don't like to think about it when I am swinging, but if the thought is there prior to the swing I seem to hit it the best. Happy golf! Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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