DukeStKing Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I got a Midlock shaft for my Evnroll ER2v - I added tungsten powder down the shaft to bring the head weight up to 3 dots as is standard on the Midlock heads. I was wondering what things other Midlock users do that may be different than a standard putter. For one, I was wondering where people position their hands on the grip. I have been having success pacing my right hand (I putt cross handed) pretty high up on the grip- I like the feel of placing part of my hand on the white part. I also play the ball closer to my left foot, a little further forward than I normally play the ball with a standard putter. Lastly, I find that limiting my back swing does not result in a pull which would be my tendency with a standard putter- and it allows me to really control my swing path. So I was wondering what others have had success doing? Any thoughts? Muckinfiddle and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I believe @GolfSpy MPR had a midlock and could help answer or share his experience. I'll follow this with interest as this is something that very much interests me. DukeStKing and GolfSpy MPR 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I'll add to this on another point. I had a Nike counter balance putter. May still actually have it, but in Canada. It was super long handle and i tried that method being a mid lock, but was never comfortable with the positioning. It felt too mechanical for me and while fine on shorter putts, longer putts felt like a lot of work and very awkward. DukeStKing 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Grabbed a quick video here at the church office with my MidLock and another putter: 20221031_105953.mp4 For me, my setup and stroke are very similar with both putters. I putt with my left hand one knuckle below my right. Ball position is quite forward with both. So for me, when I got the MidLock, it was a pretty seamless adjustment. Still not sure if the MidLock will end up replacing my Edel as my main putter, but it's useful for me as a training aid regardless, because it's the stroke I want to use with any putter I'm using. DukeStKing, GolfSpy TCB and GolfSpy_APH 2 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Grabbed a quick video here at the church office with my MidLock and another putter: 20221031_105953.mp4 12.75 MB · 0 downloads For me, my setup and stroke are very similar with both putters. I putt with my left hand one knuckle below my right. Ball position is quite forward with both. So for me, when I got the MidLock, it was a pretty seamless adjustment. Still not sure if the MidLock will end up replacing my Edel as my main putter, but it's useful for me as a training aid regardless, because it's the stroke I want to use with any putter I'm using. That Midlock stroke was pretty smooth MPR. I am envious! GolfSpy MPR 1 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I have a ER5v Midlock Hatchback Mallet on order so I will throw in my 2 cents once I have some bonding time with it. fozcycle and GolfSpy MPR 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 OMG this could be the Mother Lode! I will be doing a full review of the ER5v Midlock Hatchback Mallet over in Unofficial Reviews in the not too distant future. After a little romp around the practice putting green yesterday, my heart fluttered a little bit. Will this feeling stay or flutter away. We'll see ........... DukeStKing and GolfSpy MPR 1 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 I was very happy with my putting using my Midlock today after making a small adjustment to my set-up. I stood further away from the ball so that my left elbow was further away from my torso (I used to put with my elbows much closer to my torso- almost touching). The new set-up really frees up my swing and felt better with the forward press. ole gray 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 hours ago, DukeStKing said: I was very happy with my putting using my Midlock today after making a small adjustment to my set-up. I stood further away from the ball so that my left elbow was further away from my torso (I used to put with my elbows much closer to my torso- almost touching). The new set-up really frees up my swing and felt better with the forward press. What model midlock are you gaming? Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, ole gray said: What model midlock are you gaming? I actually bought a Midlock shaft for my ER2v 34 inch- I added 15 grams of tungsten powder to the Midlock shaft to bring it up to the 3 dot weight- I didn’t want a 3 dot head for when I play the regular shaft. It’s like two putters in one. Plus, I’m really shallow and love the look of the black head. ole gray 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, DukeStKing said: I actually bought a Midlock shaft for my ER2v 34 inch- I added 15 grams of tungsten powder to the Midlock shaft to bring it up to the 3 dot weight- I didn’t want a 3 dot head for when I play the regular shaft. It’s like two putters in one. Plus, I’m really shallow and love the look of the black head. Well done Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 A few years back, about 8, I gamed a 39” Cleveland, trying the armlock……..only lasted for about 3 months. Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Gravity Grip or ER6 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Tommy Armour Impact No. 3 Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Bridgestone RXS Mindset, Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy MacGregor Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I spent the first 4-5 months of this season experimenting with arm/mid lock putters. I tried around a dozen different putters with various specs and using different techniques. I finally settled on a Cleveland Huntington Beach #8 that I extended to 41", bent slightly upright, increased the loft, and added tungsten weight down the shaft. The technique that works best for me is with the ball in the middle of my stance which creates a lot of forward press, and using the claw grip with my right hand...similar to Will Zalatoris. This made an immediate improvement to my putting both direction and distance control. I now walk up to putts expecting to make every one. ole gray and DukeStKing 2 Quote Driver: Cobra LTDx LS 10.5* Hzrdus Red 60 6.5 3 Wood: Mini 1.5 Hzrdus Smoke Green 70 6.5 7 Wood: PXG 0211 Matrix Ozik Black Tie 80x Irons 4-U: I E1 PX 6.5 Maroon Dot Wedges: Gorge 54* and Tour-S 58* Putter: Huntington Beach Soft 8 43" Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfrdom Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I use a Evnroll Midlock grip on my rife belly putter cut down to 38” and it works really well. They make two lengths in the grip. Has more offset than the super stroke wrist lock. So don’t need as much forward press. Really good!!! ole gray and DukeStKing 2 Quote GLFWLKR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerRick Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I was doing great with mine, but now have settled back to sucking again. Nothing like turning birdies into bogeys. DukeStKing and ole gray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I putt cross handed but a regular length putter. I use face balanced mallets, especially a 2016 era Cameron Futura X with the rear criss-cross wings and 15 gram weights in each wing. I place my left hand partly on the grip but the index finger is on the shaft going straight down. It took a while for me to figure out what works regards where to put the left hand. The finger on the shaft provides me more sense of direction, not twisting, keeping it straight. I look at the target on putts longer than about 7 feet. On the short ones, my mind is locked into making contact straight, not on any arc. I focus on a pretty slow motion and total concentration all the way thru on the short ones. On the long ones, my main focus is speed to accomplish the range and whatever break/curve I want. Sometimes I follow thru by continuing the swing slowly all the way up to shoulder height. Sounds looks funny, but it works for me, to be smooth. Good luck. I live near Evnroll, in San Diego coast, but for now I stick with the Cameron. I might make an appointment to go to Evnroll when I have extra $$$ but I love my Futura. It took a lot of practice on the short ones to keep it straight though. ole gray 1 Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckinfiddle Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) I got a Midlock putter early this year and it took me quite a while to get used to it for a long putts but I finally got the hang of it. My grip is similar to the ops that I grip low on the grip with my left hand and just at the white with the right hand. I don't know if I just suck but I do have a hard time hitting The Sweet spot with the putter. I get a little out of sorts with the putter but when I'm on, the putter is awesome. I usually take extra time to make sure that I'm not coming over the top with it which is something I have a propensity of doing. I find that if I slow my back swing down so that I'm not coming forward as I'm going back it keeps me from coming over the top, which is pretty much my problem with any of my golf clubs. On the evnroll website they recommend that you just putt your normal putting stance, and position then let the grip take care of the forward press so that's what I did this last time and it seemed to help out quite a bit by letting the club do the work instead of me trying to add forward press. Me adding the forward press really left me with fairly poor rolls. I tried putting more vertically like Bryson does and that does work well but unfortunately I'm very inconsistent on my setup at times and don't do everything I need to do to set it up. Edited November 8, 2022 by Muckinfiddle grammar DukeStKing 1 Quote Hate yourself, not the game... In my Vessel bag: King SpeedZone MG 3 Satin RAW black 60° ZX 3 wood SW & GW Black 3-PW EV2 Mid-Lock Prov1x- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMidnightHandyman Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I just putt with it exactly as Evnroll recommends, and I've NEVER been more accurate with a putter. Not even close. Had it for half a season and I just love it. Use the grip the way it was designed: right hand low (for righties), pistol firmly press against your forearm. Trying to futz around making a crosshand/saw/crab/other alternative grip work for something that was deliberately engineered for the mechanics of a conventional grip defeats the purpose of the engineering. Use it as designed, get the results it was designed to give. ole gray and DukeStKing 2 Quote Driver: Srixon Tour Van Z785 - 8.5* 4-PW - Mizuno JPX 921 Forged 52, 56, 60 - Vokey SM6 Putter - Scotty Cameron California Monterey Ball - Titleist ProV1x - Left Dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, TheMidnightHandyman said: I just putt with it exactly as Evnroll recommends, and I've NEVER been more accurate with a putter. Not even close. Had it for half a season and I just love it. Use the grip the way it was designed: right hand low (for righties), pistol firmly press against your forearm. Trying to futz around making a crosshand/saw/crab/other alternative grip work for something that was deliberately engineered for the mechanics of a conventional grip defeats the purpose of the engineering. Use it as designed, get the results it was designed to give. I agree 100% and use the stock mechanics that Evnroll suggests. So far I am loving the heck out of my new flat stick! Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ole gray said: I agree 100% and use the stock mechanics that Evnroll suggests. So far I am loving the heck out of my new flat stick! Seems to be working well for me and I putt cross handed. Jordan Spieth has quite the forward press with a left hand low grip. I think the Midlock isn’t exactly engineered for a conventional grip alone. (I say this because I just can’t hold a putter anymore with a conventional grip- I’ve been putting left hand low for so long). Muckinfiddle and ole gray 2 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckinfiddle Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 13 hours ago, DukeStKing said: Seems to be working well for me and I putt cross handed. Jordan Spieth has quite the forward press with a left hand low grip. I think the Midlock isn’t exactly engineered for a conventional grip alone. (I say this because I just can’t hold a putter anymore with a conventional grip- I’ve been putting left hand low for so long). I am in the same boat. 15 hours ago, ole gray said: I agree 100% and use the stock mechanics that Evnroll suggests. So far I am loving the heck out of my new flat stick! I will probably try using the conventional method over the winter and see if it works better and can get used to it. ole gray 1 Quote Hate yourself, not the game... In my Vessel bag: King SpeedZone MG 3 Satin RAW black 60° ZX 3 wood SW & GW Black 3-PW EV2 Mid-Lock Prov1x- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 29 putts with the Midlock today using left hand low- that’s my second best putting round. It could have been better as I burned the edge on 2 putts from over 15 feet and one from over 30 feet. ole gray 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 17 hours ago, DukeStKing said: 29 putts with the Midlock today using left hand low- that’s my second best putting round. It could have been better as I burned the edge on 2 putts from over 15 feet and one from over 30 feet. Loving me some Midlock! Good job!! DukeStKing 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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