Javs Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Found an interesting article that details how far the average male golfer hits their drives. https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/how-far-do-male-golfers-hit-their-drives?utm_term=CFEB69DA-8695-406A-822D-71925C4B6E39&lrh=afabd56f8788996dec1eed39e53e29756a4fe34c1aff9fa4fdfa9f254cbb042a&utm_campaign=075440B8-601C-4440-A9B1-8A7444061AA8&utm_medium=email&utm_content=6DD7577D-810F-4F6B-A198-8A5F8593E219&utm_source=SmartBrief I agree with the average and handicap breakdown. I found personally that I hit it a little farther than the average for my handicap on the chart. Josh Parker, KC Golf, Indy_Oz and 1 other 4 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Arccos data is very interesting data. Their findings are quite insightful. Lou at Arccos gives very good insight on his podcast ans his newsletter. I am not surprised by these results. Long drives correlate to better scoring. Indy_Oz, Javs and Northern Monkey 3 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatewithabadge Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Right now i am 17.5 Handicap. I hit my driver on average around 250 yards. which is above the average of 211 the article refers too for my handicap. But I also have gotten myself a launch monitor and go out to hit as many days as i can, time permitting (just started to learn truely golf this year). The constant reps help me out a lot. My higher handicap is more of a produce of lack of consistancy and decision making and not so much power. Edited 17 hours ago by fatewithabadge fatewithabadge, Indy_Oz, Javs and 1 other 4 Quote Timothy Henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, fatewithabadge said: Right now i am 17.5 Handicap. I hit my driver on average around 250 yards. which is above the average of 211 the article refers too for my handicap. But I also have gotten myself a launch monitor and go out to hit as many days as i can, time permitting (just started to learn truely golf this year). The constant reps help me out a lot. I am confident that if you use the same level of effort on your 120 yard and less wedge and putting practice, you can cut your index in half quite quickly. Hope you keep improving. I think the Arccos stats are on your side! Northern Monkey, Javs, fatewithabadge and 2 others 5 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin B Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Javs said: Found an interesting article that details how far the average male golfer hits their drives. https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/how-far-do-male-golfers-hit-their-drives?utm_term=CFEB69DA-8695-406A-822D-71925C4B6E39&lrh=afabd56f8788996dec1eed39e53e29756a4fe34c1aff9fa4fdfa9f254cbb042a&utm_campaign=075440B8-601C-4440-A9B1-8A7444061AA8&utm_medium=email&utm_content=6DD7577D-810F-4F6B-A198-8A5F8593E219&utm_source=SmartBrief I agree with the average and handicap breakdown. I found personally that I hit it a little farther than the average for my handicap on the chart. I am having similar results, but when I add in all par 4 and 5 tee shots it's closer to the 234 yards. I don't always tee off with a driver. Northern Monkey, Javs and Indy_Oz 3 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Driver: Paradym TD 9* Steadfast Jupiter S or 425LST 9* Steadfast Jupiter S Woods: 3W Mini TaylorMade S Hybrids: 3H&4H 0317 Steadfast Jupiter S Irons: 902PD Proj.X IO shaft 6.5 Wedges: Vokey SM10 48, 52, 56* Titleist Wedge Shafts Putter: Black MiniGiant Ball: Pro V1X or Chrome TourX https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62621-forum-member-reviews-callaway-whitebox-testing/?do=findComment&comment=1020558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Based on my handicap of 13.2, I am considerably longer than average with my driver (about 22-25 yards longer, at 245+). If you factor age into the equation (I’m 75+ years old), I am sure that I am about 40-50 yards longer with the driver than the average for golfers of my age. Northern Monkey, Erin B, Indy_Oz and 3 others 3 3 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max, Newton Motion 4-Dot shaft 4W - Titleist TSR2, Newton Motion 4-Dot FW shaft HYB - Sub 70 949X 21*, original HZRDUS Black 85-S shaft 7W (if played) - Titleist TSR, ACCRA TZ6 7S Irons - Cobra King Forged Tec X, KBS TGI graphite shafts Wedges - Edison 2.0, 47* (bent to 48*), 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Tour S Putter - Evnroll ER10 ""Outback” Mallet Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus Bags - Vessel / Ghost stand bags Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler Lots of short game practice has made this a strength; now the driver is causing problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Erin B said: I am having similar results, but when I add in all par 4 and 5 tee shots it's closer to the 234 yards. I don't always tee off with a driver. Agree that hole design dependent dictates which club I use off the tee. However, give me a downwind par 5 that is inviting to a hard, high draw and that is go time! 27 minutes ago, funkyjudge said: Based on my handicap of 13.2, I am considerably longer than average with my driver (about 22-25 yards longer, at 245+). If you factor age into the equation (I’m 75+ years old), I am sure that I am about 40-50 yards longer with the driver than the average for golfers of my age. Because you are a stud Marine! Northern Monkey, Erin B and Shapotomous 2 1 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) lol, I hit it way further than others at my HCP according to the article. Guess that exposes that I suck at other parts of my game. My guess is approach shots are my weakness (not a guess really, I know). Edited 16 hours ago by Shifty Northern Monkey and Javs 1 1 Quote Paradym 9 degree Driver DYNAPWR 3 wood Apex 21 PW-4 Iron CBX 50 degree CBX 54 degree CBX2 58 degree SM6 62 Degree ER2 Putter CURRENTLY TESTING T-Squared TS-912 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted 16 hours ago Author Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Shifty said: lol, I hit it way further than others at my HCP. Guess that exposes that I suck at other parts of my game. My guess is approach shots are my weakness (not a guess really, I know). Golf is hard! Northern Monkey and Shifty 2 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy_Oz Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago I saw that article too (and I've seen other similar ones). I know I'm longer than my handicap average is and Arccos tells me my 'off the tee' handicap is around scratch or better. I know that stat comes from the shots gained due to distance and I've greatly improved driver accuracy since switching. As my Arccos stats show, short game is currently killing my scores and overall handicap, but I've known that for a while and I'm working on it... Northern Monkey and Javs 2 Quote 2024 WITB: Driver: Ai Smoke MAX 9* w. Denali 60g 6.5 (XS) FW woods: TSR2+ 13* '2W' w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X & TSR2 21* 7W w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X Hybrid: Stealth+ 3H (@18*) w. Hzrdus Smoke RDX Red 80/6.5 Irons: 5i-PW: '17 P790 w. Tour C-Taper Lite 115X (Incoming soon: 4i-PW: 2024 P770 w. Rifle 6.0 (+1/4")) Wedges: 50/09 MG4; 56/12 MG4TW Raw; SM9 60/04L Putter: Phantom X7 Ball: TP5x // Chrome Tour // Maxfli Tour X Other: . Gogogo Sport V-Pro rangefinder; Woode Hybrid Stand Bag; Nitron push cart. 2024 Tests: Callaway Whitebox Test- Chrome Tour & Tour X Balls 2024 Sqairz Velo Shoe 2024 Taylormade P770 Irons (ongoing) "...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!"- Eric Idle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior42111 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago It would be interesting to see what the standard deviation is by level, I also wonder if the say top 10 and bottom 10 percent were used? As a 15 handicap I can hit about 260-280, but I can also duff one with the best of them. So if you hit 5 260yds then hit a bad one OB 100yds well the avg is 230. Northern Monkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago I will say that my average is probably around 260 total with the potential to hit it 290 total on occasion but also capable of hitting some spinny 240 yarders as well. Javs 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off Map Oscar Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago I question arccos sample size. I looked but didn't see percentages of users by handicap. I'm a shotscope guy so I don't have any skin in the game but it seems really low numbers. Most the guys I play with are in the 18 to 10 range and we all get 250 off the tee regularly. Sure driving distance leads to lower scores but if you're getting fairway and 220 you're well within the range to shoot even par. It's every else that seems to screw my friends up. I'd like to see #of putts per round by handicap and what their demographic numbers are. I know lots of guys at our league that are scratch or single digit and none of them use arccos or any logging data. It would be curious to see if the distance data is short cause maybe the higher handicaps are more plentiful and the propencity to flub a shot cuts the average dramatically. For example if 50% of the user group is a 20 handicap and they top a tee shot 50 yards 20% of the time numbers will be heavily skewed lower than say a performance average. That throws out everything under 150 yards. Quote I should be golfing instead of talking smack on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I am assuming this is total yards rather than carry since it is arccos data. I am surprised that the top end isnt longer but only 252. All the + cappers on forums that write about their 300+ yard bombs must not be using arccos. The 245 average for 0-4 is about my carry so with a little rollout i might be slightly longer than average. I am playing in a state sr tourney in a few weeks with a bunch of 0-4's. It will be interesting to see if these 60+ yo's in the super senior bracket are moving it farther than 245. Indy_Oz 1 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Depends. Into the wind a bomb is 233. Down wind, 315+. No wind a 270-290 yard drive is a well struck drive. There are outliers that I miss hit badly that end up at around the 255 mark, but those are less and less nowadays. I plan to start working on swing speed again. I got upwards of 120+ CHS speed when I was doing it regularly, but the ball ballooned so bad with my driver/shaft combo that it was useless, way too much spin, never had it on a monitor but I bet it was close to 4000 or more. Now, I have a driver/shaft combo that will allow for the speed. Just hope my body can take the training… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, Shapotomous said: I am assuming this is total yards rather than carry since it is arccos data. I am surprised that the top end isnt longer but only 252. All the + cappers on forums that write about their 300+ yard bombs must not be using arccos. The 245 average for 0-4 is about my carry so with a little rollout i might be slightly longer than average. I am playing in a state sr tourney in a few weeks with a bunch of 0-4's. It will be interesting to see if these 60+ yo's in the super senior bracket are moving it farther than 245. I have never used arcoss or shot scope. I do think most people over estimate how far they are actually hitting it. I’m in the 60 plus category and can still hit it pretty far with the occasional bomb. I do believe that being able to pound it and keep it in play is a great advantage. Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, Off Map Oscar said: I question arccos sample size. I looked but didn't see percentages of users by handicap. I'm a shotscope guy so I don't have any skin in the game but it seems really low numbers. Most the guys I play with are in the 18 to 10 range and we all get 250 off the tee regularly. Sure driving distance leads to lower scores but if you're getting fairway and 220 you're well within the range to shoot even par. It's every else that seems to screw my friends up. I'd like to see #of putts per round by handicap and what their demographic numbers are. I know lots of guys at our league that are scratch or single digit and none of them use arccos or any logging data. It would be curious to see if the distance data is short cause maybe the higher handicaps are more plentiful and the propencity to flub a shot cuts the average dramatically. For example if 50% of the user group is a 20 handicap and they top a tee shot 50 yards 20% of the time numbers will be heavily skewed lower than say a performance average. That throws out everything under 150 yards. That’s a pretty rare group that everyone is 250 plus regularly. Especially if they are older. The point on putts would be an entirely different topic. I believe that would be broken down to 3 putt avoidance and make percentage inside 4 feet. Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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