fixyurdivot Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I was playing today and the greens had just been sanded yesterday. Getting to the first green I was expecting to see plugs, but there weren't any. Upon closer look, I noted what appeared to be intermittent slice marks - I don't recall seeing this before. Unlike plugs, they really didn't create problems putting. Yes, the sand made speed a bit challenging, but the slice marks were very clean. I stuck my divot tool down into one and it was about 2" deep. Anyone on the forum familiar with this technique; which I presume is another way to aerate? revkev 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: I was playing today and the greens had just been sanded yesterday. Getting to the first green I was expecting to see plugs, but there weren't any. Upon closer look, I noted what appeared to be intermittent slice marks - I don't recall seeing this before. Unlike plugs, they really didn't create problems putting. Yes, the sand made speed a bit challenging, but the slice marks were very clean. I stuck my divot tool down into one and it was about 2" deep. Anyone on the forum familiar with this technique; which I presume is another way to aerate? Sounds like they did some slit seeding in the greens rather than core aeration fixyurdivot and TR1PTIK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I have so many questions. I know that our superintendent will slice greens occasionally during the season, followed by a top dressing. It enhances the health of the roots. I do not believe that it would ever take the place of aerifcation. We are solid tyning the greens this Monday and Tuesday. Not pulling cores. Quicker heal. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot 1 Quote Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 Slit seeding may very well be what they did. These were quite thin and, as mentioned, about 2" deep. Do they typically sand on top of new seeds? From what I've been told, this course use to be in rather rough shape until a few years ago when they brought in a new manager and he subsequently hired a new greenskeeper. It is now in very good shape so whatever their doing . I forgot to mention that many of the greens had ball track marks on the sand from the early groups when it was damp. It made reading the greens super easy. I saw a couple of 20+ foot marks follow the contour right into the hole. TR1PTIK and romeopapazulu 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Seeding is not usually done this way. I’m assuming they are bent grass greens. Fairly common around here, although I don’t recall them being that deep but have seen it before. It basically is a way to get the air to flow through the grass better. I was under the impression that it help with thatch build up but this quick article doesn’t talk about that. http://cottonwoodturf.blogspot.com/2011/06/slicing-greens.html?m=1 TR1PTIK 1 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Our course does this slicing about 3 times a year to our poa annua greens. Really helps keep the greens healthy; also speeds them up a little too after the first day. TR1PTIK 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kenny B said: Our course does this slicing about 3 times a year to our poa annua greens. Really helps keep the greens healthy; also speeds them up a little too after the first day. Not many poa greens around here, didn’t realize they did it to those also. Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: Not many poa greens around here, didn’t realize they did it to those also. I have mixed feelings about poa greens. Not all courses in my area have them. They are much firmer than the bent grass greens in the area, and they take a lot of beating which is good for a muni. I play in the mornings most days, but during the summer I will play in the afternoon when my wife gets off work. Our greens are like night and day from morning to afternoon; nice and smooth after mowing, but by 2pm they get slow and bumpy. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Kenny B said: I have mixed feelings about poa greens. Not all courses in my area have them. They are much firmer than the bent grass greens in the area, and they take a lot of beating which is good for a muni. I play in the mornings most days, but during the summer I will play in the afternoon when my wife gets off work. Our greens are like night and day from morning to afternoon; nice and smooth after mowing, but by 2pm they get slow and bumpy. I have played many rounds on poa and I don’t think there is anything worse than afternoon poa. silver & black and Kenny B 2 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 hours ago, THEZIPR23 said: Seeding is not usually done this way. I’m assuming they are bent grass greens. Fairly common around here, although I don’t recall them being that deep but have seen it before. It basically is a way to get the air to flow through the grass better. I was under the impression that it help with thatch build up but this quick article doesn’t talk about that. http://cottonwoodturf.blogspot.com/2011/06/slicing-greens.html?m=1 The article mentions how little adverse affect this technique has on play... I agree. Sounds like there are a number of methods, and variations of the methods, being used by the guys and gals who keep them in shape. THEZIPR23 and tony@CIC 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Yes - I had a similar experience when I played a couple of weeks ago. We were right behind the process on the front nine - the greens that were exceedingly firm.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot 1 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfinnut Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 It's called "Verti-cutting" We used to do it at the CC I worked at for many years growing up. Just a quick way of aerating the greens. You can do this multiple times a year vs the twice a year regular plug pulling aerification. fixyurdivot and tony@CIC 2 Quote WITB: Do I like Titleist or what? Driver: TSR3 9* UST Mamiya Proto LIN-Q Blue Fairways: TSi2 UST Mamiya LIN-Q Blue 13.5* Driving Iron: U500 17* Blue Ventus HB Velocore Irons: T350 4 & 5, T200 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Dart F4 105g Wedges: SM9 48*, SM9 52*, SM8 56* Modus Tour Wedge Putter: Newport 2 w/ Garsen Ultimate grip Ball: *ProV1 Left Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Sounds like verticut to me. Supers do this so the sand will fall into the grooves, this helps keep the grass from laying down and causes a more upright growth of thE blades. Thus giving a more consistent and bit faster roll on the greens. It also helps control the the thatch. FYI. I'm not a super, but I do big one just about everytime I see him doing something I don't know fixyurdivot 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 8:13 AM, golfinnut said: It's called "Verti-cutting" We used to do it at the CC I worked at for many years growing up. Just a quick way of aerating the greens. You can do this multiple times a year vs the twice a year regular plug pulling aerification. Ha. I should have read all the posts before answering golfinnut 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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