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I have ordered a pair of the pressure sensing insoles featured on the MGS blog recently; they are coming today. As one who geeks out on golf data, I’m pretty excited. I’m adding this to my SkyTrak, Swing Speed Radar, Zepp, etc.

The key to having all this data, of course, is knowing what it means, when it signals that something is wrong, and how to use the data to work on your game. With most of my other devices, that’s pretty easy; I’ve read and learned enough to know how to use that information to improve.

But using pressure plates in the golf swing is relatively more obscure than some of this other data, and I have to admit that going into it, I don’t know what I’m looking for. Does anyone have a link to a tutorial or video on using a pressure plate to improve at golf? There are things that I’m sure I’ll learn through trial and error, but I’d love to have a running start.

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That is definitely the hard part of all the tech stuff. How do you interpret the data and no just chase specific numbers.

I would suggest looking at athletic motion golf on YouTube. Most of their videos reference GEARS and how the body should move during the swing. I have seen some videos that show the pressure shift charts. If you search their channel you can probably find something about how the pressure shifts during the swing.

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Harry mentioned that in the app they have videos of some Pro's to compare data. I would think that getting into the specific ranges would be the goal. Something like Golftech does with their body movements. Pro's on average are this % open at impact. 

I haven't listened to this but Cordy is pretty good at getting info so may be worth a listen. 

https://golfsciencelab.com/pressure-mats-force-plates-popular/

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I just ordered a set myself, can’t wait to get them to the range. I’ve watched Crossfield mess around with his swing catalyst mat a bit recently and that has me intrigued. If nothing else, with new tech like this, I think I learn more from trial and error than chasing specific numbers. Hit different shots and see what really changes, hit a few bad ones and see what the difference may be. That’s when I feel like I get the real lightbulb moments and feel like I’m learning something that I can translate to to the course.


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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

That is definitely the hard part of all the tech stuff. How do you interpret the data and no just chase specific numbers.

I would suggest looking at athletic motion golf on YouTube. Most of their videos reference GEARS and how the body should move during the swing. I have seen some videos that show the pressure shift charts. If you search their channel you can probably find something about how the pressure shifts during the swing.

This one was useful: 

 

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I ordered the insoles as well (thanks Amazon)

I will do a lot of indoor range work this winter, with a launch monitor.  I’m hopeful that the combination of numbers along with the visual of weight placement will teach me a lot.

My biggest issue right now is if I start to use these right away or wait until Christmas 🤔

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On 10/16/2020 at 3:15 PM, GolfSpy MPR said:

This one was useful: 

 

I liked this one as well.  It provides points in the swing and associated pressure. 

 

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2 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I liked this one as well.  It provides points in the swing and associated pressure. 

 

I'll check that out. Here's another good resource, in text form:

https://www.adamyounggolf.com/golf-and-cop-what-is-it/

The idea that your center of mass can be different than your center of pressure is obvious in hindsight, but seems crucial for understanding the whole concept here.

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14 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I'll check that out. Here's another good resource, in text form:

https://www.adamyounggolf.com/golf-and-cop-what-is-it/

The idea that your center of mass can be different than your center of pressure is obvious in hindsight, but seems crucial for understanding the whole concept here.

Interested in hearing how these work out for you.  I have been doing pressure shifts the old fashioned way....balance board.    Seeing these videos and the Adam Young article gives me a better understanding on how I should be moving.  

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So let's consider one point of pressure data reflected in two swings. Note Bryson's lead foot action on his swing:

Now compare the same in JT (I think Bubba would be similar):

What tendencies do you think are encouraged by getting lead foot pressure more toe biased versus heel biased?

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19 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

So let's consider one point of pressure data reflected in two swings. Note Bryson's lead foot action on his swing:

Now compare the same in JT (I think Bubba would be similar):

What tendencies do you think are encouraged by getting lead foot pressure more toe biased versus heel biased?

I'm going to maybe go opposite of your question and say that the swings aren't all that different. At the point of impact Bryson hasn't spun out the front foot:

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JT obviously has a more pronounced jump at impact:

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I think they both get a tremendous amount of pressure into the front of their lead foot nearing impact. Bryson does get to his heel at the finish, he certainly has to let that energy go somewhere else that front knee would take a beating...

As someone who all too often goes the opposite route (shift immediately into the left heel), I can say it throws the club out from the top rather than allowing it to come from the inside. For me that leads to pulls and pull hooks. Before I strengthened my grip that was a recipe for a slice.

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I’ll go a little down the mike Adams teaching route on this. Power is generated via a combination of vertical, lateral, and rotation forces. Depending on which on you use more is based on your swing dynamics. Bryson and JT/Bubba simply swing the club differently. Just guessing but JT would rely on vertical forces more that Bryson who is more rotational.

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I don’t believe the lead foot pressure is that different between the two at impact, looks can be deceiving. Bryson ends up on his heel because of the pressure he puts into his lead toe sending him backwards, and so he doesn’t blow out his knee. I’d love to see actual pressure traces though.


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5 hours ago, cnosil said:

I’ll go a little down the mike Adams teaching route on this. Power is generated via a combination of vertical, lateral, and rotation forces. Depending on which on you use more is based on your swing dynamics. Bryson and JT/Bubba simply swing the club differently. Just guessing but JT would rely on vertical forces more that Bryson who is more rotational.

Completely agree.

JT's lead foot and ground pressure is extraordinary. If you watch JT on a pressure plate his left foot almost completely disappears. 

They are both trying to accomplish the same thing, JT just needs more force to do it than Bryson. 

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