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Today's feature article on the blog: https://mygolfspy.com/we-tried-it-salted-smart-insole/

I'm deeply intrigued by this, as I am by virtually all golf gadgets. Here's my question: do you guys believe that there is enough available information for someone like me (who avidly keeps up with developments in golf science) to use this data?

It's one thing to see the force patterns in my swing; it's another altogether to take that information, see where there are problems, and use that information to make corrections.

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I think you could do it because you wouldn't just apply some random youtube video to fixes. You have enough knowledge that you could use it productively. Not the case with everyone. 

All that being said as technology advances and things like this become more normal to golfers we get deep into the weeds on making the swing work and forget we have to learn how to play and score as well. 

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Had I not just spent some money on a putter and an Exputt simulator, I think this would have been on my list of things to buy this offseason. Connecting a visual to a feel would be really nice for me, as someone who struggles with obtaining the correct pressure shift and rotation in my backswing.

I almost bought them anyway, but a few of the Amazon reviews scared me off. I'll wait for a bit to see what more people are saying!

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Had I not just spent some money on a putter and an Exputt simulator, I think this would have been on my list of things to buy this offseason. Connecting a visual to a feel would be really nice for me, as someone who struggles with obtaining the correct pressure shift and rotation in my backswing.

I almost bought them anyway, but a few of the Amazon reviews scared me off. I'll wait for a bit to see what more people are saying!

I went ahead and grabbed the one that was available from Amazon Warehouse (at $120ish). I'll definitely do a review for the forum.

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First let me say that this product seems very interesting and I think it would be very useful. I think if you record your swing on camera with the cell phone showing the force pattern at the same time would give you the most benefit. Just like they did in the promo except with the golf swing. This would allow you to see where in the swing the force increases and shifts. This could show you if you were not balanced at the start of the swing, achieving proper weight transfer, falling back on the heels, lifting your front foot, rolling on your left side too much or not enough. This just seems to be a great tool to add to your tool bag. 

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7 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

First let me say that this product seems very interesting and I think it would be very useful. I think if you record your swing on camera with the cell phone showing the force pattern at the same time would give you the most benefit. Just like they did in the promo except with the golf swing. This would allow you to see where in the swing the force increases and shifts. This could show you if you were not balanced at the start of the swing, achieving proper weight transfer, falling back on the heels, lifting your front foot, rolling on your left side too much or not enough. This just seems to be a great tool to add to your tool bag. 

I've downloaded the app on my phone, and it looks like it's designed to do exactly this. I'm looking forward to syncing the video, the force data, and the SkyTrak information this winter.

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6 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I've downloaded the app on my phone, and it looks like it's designed to do exactly this. I'm looking forward to syncing the video, the force data, and the SkyTrak information this winter.

NICE!

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I think I'd be interested in these as well. I've been interested in force plate technology for a while, but have no idea where I'd go to use one. If these are actually as good as Harry suggests, I'll be looking to buy when my budget allows.

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If you didn't catch it elsewhere, the Smart Soles are $90 off for Prime Day:

I had placed an order yesterday for a "Like New" set through Amazon Warehouse for $120, but was able to cancel that an order a new set for $10 cheaper today.

In addition to full swing information, I'm interested to use these for putting and short game practice. I'm willing to find out otherwise, but it seems to me that putting with as little movement in the insoles as possible might be a fun and useful drill.

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11 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

If you didn't catch it elsewhere, the Smart Soles are $90 off for Prime Day:

I had placed an order yesterday for a "Like New" set through Amazon Warehouse for $120, but was able to cancel that an order a new set for $10 cheaper today.

In addition to full swing information, I'm interested to use these for putting and short game practice. I'm willing to find out otherwise, but it seems to me that putting with as little movement in the insoles as possible might be a fun and useful drill.


Pulled the trigger as well.  Early Christmas present 🎁. Looking forward to seeing this, I’m not a gadget guy but this has promise.

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OK, time for an unboxing and first impressions post. First, the unboxing:

I put these in a pair of old True Linkswear spikeless shoes I have in my office. The fitting, for me, was spot on.

I charged them the recommended two hours, then I paired them with my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite (Android 10). They paired quickly with no issues at all. I know that multiple users have complained about connectivity issues, so I'll be keeping a careful watch on that.

Once they were connected and calibrated, I opened the screen on the app where you get the real-time data. Everything appeared to be working very smoothly. I found it interesting to play balance games, trying to hit specific numbers (whether perfect balance, x% on the heel of this foot, etc). It seems to me that that kind of thing could be useful, because the point of tech is to teach you (with objective measurements) what certain realities feel like.

The insoles default to vibrating a beeping each time you get 70% of your pressure on a single foot. This ends up being useful, but it needs to be said: it's about the most annoying thing possible when you're walking: step/buzz/BEEP!, step/buzz/BEEP!. If you're looking to use these at a public range, that's gotta be a bit of a downside.

I have not done any extensive practice with these. I merely went out into the aisle of the church and took a few swings with the hickory I have in my office. First note: unlike some users, I had zero connection hiccups. The connection seemed rock steady during the entire "record a swing" process.

First, before I recorded a swing, I tried to get the feeling of getting to 70% on my lead foot when my lead arm is parallel in the downswing (a pretty common benchmark). It was clear to me right away that I'm nowhere close to this. I would not have considered myself to be someone who "hangs back" in the swing, but at the lead-arm-parallel position coming down, I got this:

Screenshot_20201020-122353_SALTED GOLF.jpg

The vast majority of my weight is hanging back on my trail foot. By impact, I've shifted forward significantly but still inadequately: I had 62% of my weight on my lead foot at impact, when 80%+ is considered more ideal.

So first impressions:

  • It works and didn't present me with any technical issues whatsoever.
  • The data is intelligible and the software seems to give decent options for analyzing a swing.
  • It looks like, right out of the box, that there is massive room for improvement and that these insoles seem like they'll be a helpful tool in making a correction to my swing that I wasn't aware that I needed.
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I can't be the only one that is disappointed in the fact that you didn't make your own.

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@golfspy_mpr. Good start, will be interesting to read you progress to see how if leads to improvement or if you just end up
Chasing numbers by doing the DIY approach. I am pull for the improvements

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2 minutes ago, jlukes said:

I can't be the only one that is disappointed in the fact that you didn't make your own.

"...so you can see that on this swing, most of the bubbles in the bubble wrap under my left foot have popped...."

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1 minute ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

"...so you can see that on this swing, most of the bubbles in the bubble wrap under my left foot have popped...."

I was really hoping to see you make some swings with some Samsung Galaxy Tab 8s running a custom app strapped to your feet

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4 minutes ago, cnosil said:

@golfspy_mpr. Good start, will be interesting to read you progress to see how if leads to improvement or if you just end up
Chasing numbers by doing the DIY approach. I am pull for the improvements

I think at the outset, I'm interested in seeing if I get "better" numbers on these by

  1. trying to hit the numbers, or
  2. by working on something else (ie., PlaneMate or SuperSpeed) and having the pressure numbers change without conscious focus on this

In either case, I'm happy to have the data.

1 minute ago, jlukes said:

I was really hoping to see you make some swings with some Samsung Galaxy Tab 8s running a custom app strapped to your feet

Typically, when I DIY a training aid, the goal is to save money compared to the actual product 🙂

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1 minute ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

I think at the outset, I'm interested in seeing if I get "better" numbers on these by

  1. trying to hit the numbers, or
  2. by working on something else (ie., PlaneMate or SuperSpeed) and having the pressure numbers change without conscious focus on this

In either case, I'm happy to have the data.

Typically, when I DIY a training aid, the goal is to save money compared to the actual product 🙂

Good call.  Maybe so OG ipod Touch's instead

On a serious note - I really enjoyed working on a force mat two offseasons ago.  Really helped me learn to rotate more vs sway

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

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I love the fact that you are practicing in the church aisle with a hickory club.

I am also interested to see how the feedback from those soles will change your set up perception and feet position/pressure as you use it more to practice.

Great initial write up and video.

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Total throwaway post, just for fun: my daughter Kate and Kirke were with me in the office this morning (I help with their homeshooling; teaching them to read biblical Greek!), and they wanted a version of the unboxing in which they could make cameos:

 

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

OK, time for an unboxing and first impressions post. First, the unboxing:

I put these in a pair of old True Linkswear spikeless shoes I have in my office. The fitting, for me, was spot on.

I charged them the recommended two hours, then I paired them with my Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Lite (Android 10). They paired quickly with no issues at all. I know that multiple users have complained about connectivity issues, so I'll be keeping a careful watch on that.

Once they were connected and calibrated, I opened the screen on the app where you get the real-time data. Everything appeared to be working very smoothly. I found it interesting to play balance games, trying to hit specific numbers (whether perfect balance, x% on the heel of this foot, etc). It seems to me that that kind of thing could be useful, because the point of tech is to teach you (with objective measurements) what certain realities feel like.

The insoles default to vibrating a beeping each time you get 70% of your pressure on a single foot. This ends up being useful, but it needs to be said: it's about the most annoying thing possible when you're walking: step/buzz/BEEP!, step/buzz/BEEP!. If you're looking to use these at a public range, that's gotta be a bit of a downside.

I have not done any extensive practice with these. I merely went out into the aisle of the church and took a few swings with the hickory I have in my office. First note: unlike some users, I had zero connection hiccups. The connection seemed rock steady during the entire "record a swing" process.

First, before I recorded a swing, I tried to get the feeling of getting to 70% on my lead foot when my lead arm is parallel in the downswing (a pretty common benchmark). It was clear to me right away that I'm nowhere close to this. I would not have considered myself to be someone who "hangs back" in the swing, but at the lead-arm-parallel position coming down, I got this:

Screenshot_20201020-122353_SALTED GOLF.jpg

The vast majority of my weight is hanging back on my trail foot. By impact, I've shifted forward significantly but still inadequately: I had 62% of my weight on my lead foot at impact, when 80%+ is considered more ideal.

So first impressions:

  • It works and didn't present me with any technical issues whatsoever.
  • The data is intelligible and the software seems to give decent options for analyzing a swing.
  • It looks like, right out of the box, that there is massive room for improvement and that these insoles seem like they'll be a helpful tool in making a correction to my swing that I wasn't aware that I needed.

This is good stuff.  Is that a church you're in?

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