chisag Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ben Joest said: Hopefully the picture does it justice. In comparing the finish of the ball with a ProV1, it’s stated target competition , the finish of the ball is very similar. I would not characterize it as glossy or shiny. ... Thanks. Yea maybe just the pictures but the Sugar looks ultra white and shiny to me. That said, I am very picky about my clubs and balls. GolfSpy_BEN 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Aerojet 16* 3 wood ... AD-IZ6r Aerojet 20* 7 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_KFT Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 15 hours ago, chisag said: ... You are talking about the V2, not the V3. After having played the V3 for awhile now, Sam, what are you seeing out of it comparative to the Maxfli Tour? I feel I've asked you this question before, but value your insight and I think others will as well in this thread. I know that a ball will react different dependent on the swing of the individual. The V2 was way too spinny off the driver for me, but V3 I am curious about trying and will be needing to pick up some more balls in the next couple months. Quote Driver: DARKSPEED X 9* Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W MCA Kai'Li White 60 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 3H MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Snakebite Black 52/56 Hi-Rev 2.0 Black Stiff Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour X & ProV1x #LeftyGang Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Cobra Darkspeed X Driver Unofficial Review (link here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jnoble89 said: After having played the V3 for awhile now, Sam, what are you seeing out of it comparative to the Maxfli Tour? I feel I've asked you this question before, but value your insight and I think others will as well in this thread. I know that a ball will react different dependent on the swing of the individual. The V2 was way too spinny off the driver for me, but V3 I am curious about trying and will be needing to pick up some more balls in the next couple months. ... The V2 spun too much for me as well. To be clear I have not done a direct ball to ball test with the Maxfli Tour and V3 but I have not had any problems with ballooning or the V3 coming up short or excessive short game spin. I have hit second tee shots with the Maxfli and itseems pretty equal in distance to the V3. When I get a chance to do a more in depth comparison, I may find the Maxfli is a little longer but I imagine no more than a few yards, if that. If they were the same price I wouldn't even consider the V3 but at less than 1/2 the price of the Maxfli and 4 dozen V3's for the price of 1 dozen ProV1's, playing about 250 rounds a year the savings is significant. ... Here is what I consider the no brainer. For $28 you get 2 dozen V3's. If they don't work for you, they make a great practice ball or a gift for a friend or a premium ball for your kids. I mean really ... it's $28. Hobert, GolfSpy_KFT, Josh Parker and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Aerojet 16* 3 wood ... AD-IZ6r Aerojet 20* 7 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_KFT Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, chisag said: ... The V2 spun too much for me as well. To be clear I have not done a direct ball to ball test with the Maxfli Tour and V3 but I have not had any problems with ballooning or the V3 coming up short or excessive short game spin. I have hit second tee shots with the Maxfli and itseems pretty equal in distance to the V3. When I get a chance to do a more in depth comparison, I may find the Maxfli is a little longer but I imagine no more than a few yards, if that. If they were the same price I wouldn't even consider the V3 but at less than 1/2 the price of the Maxfli and 4 dozen V3's for the price of 1 dozen ProV1's, playing about 250 rounds a year the savings is significant. ... Here is what I consider the no brainer. For $28 you get 2 dozen V3's. If they don't work for you, they make a great practice ball or a gift for a friend or a premium ball for your kids. I mean really ... it's $28. The value is for sure exceptional. Next time I'm at Coscto I'm gonna pick up a box just for the heck of it. It's good to hear you haven't seen ballooning with the V3..that is the biggest issue I had with the V2 with driver. Everything else I actually liked pretty well. RockerFCC and chisag 2 Quote Driver: DARKSPEED X 9* Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W MCA Kai'Li White 60 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 3H MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Snakebite Black 52/56 Hi-Rev 2.0 Black Stiff Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour X & ProV1x #LeftyGang Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Cobra Darkspeed X Driver Unofficial Review (link here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elight Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 FINAL RESULTS Top Flite Hammer Control Price: $1.00/ball Maxfli StraightFli Price: $1.25/ball Srixon Soft Feel Price: $1.27/ball Snell Get Sum Price: $1.33/ball Srixon Q-Star Price: $1.61/ball MaxFli TriFli Price: $1.67/ball Maxfli Tour Price: $2.50/ball Price: We have four balls toward the bottom of the range (Hammer Control, StraightFli, Soft Feel, Get Sum), two in the middle (TriFli and Q Star), and then the MaxFli Tour at a higher price point for comparison. The delta from super-cheap to tour-level is $1.50/ball. Subtract the price of your preferred ball from $2.50, then multiply that by the number of balls you lose or damage in an average round less one. That’s what you’re saving each round by playing this ball compared to a tour-level ball. All of these appear to still be available at these prices, except for the Srixon balls which I got on a Father’s Day buy-2-get-1-free sale. Performance: The Get Sum was the worst of both worlds, being spinny off the tee, yet lacking any sort of greenside performance. The Hammer Control was significantly longer than any other ball I played, yet offered greenside performance similar to the Soft Feel and StraightFli balls. The Soft Feel was a jack of all trades, master of none. The StraightFli really did feel straighter than any other ball while not lacking distance; this is a really good option for major slicers. The Q-Star and the TriFli were priced similarly and performed similarly, with tee performance similar to the lower priced balls but noticeably improved greenside spin; I wouldn’t hesitate to play either if I wanted a non-urethane option for whatever reason, with the only real differentiator for me being the finish (TriFli is matte). Summary: I would recommend all of these balls except the Get Sum for folks who want to save 35-60% on the cost of balls. I could see myself playing a lower cost ball on courses where losing many balls (due to OB/penalty areas/etc.) is a possibility, or when I’m going through swing issues, or when I’m playing more for fun and less for a score. I think that the difference between these balls for a bogey golfer on up is maybe a couple strokes per round. How much money is one or two strokes worth for you? Only you can answer that question. One ball versus another could cost you $6/round, which could increase the cost of your round by 10% or more depending on where you play. Elasticity of demand exists; to what extent, I don’t know. I would also consider hitting the Hammer Control balls off the tee in a scramble. Otherwise, I will probably use the Maxfli Tours as my gamers once I work through the mountain of balls I’ve assembled. I hope that this has been helpful to someone! RockerFCC 1 Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Srixon TRI speed here are only 14 a dozen, but you have to buy 10 dozen. RockerFCC 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Srixon TRI speed here are only 14 a dozen, but you have to buy 10 dozen. .... Same price as the Kirkland V3's and you only have to buy 2 dozen and it's a urethane cover. But you better order or pick them up today because I have a feeling Tony will be poo-pooing them tomorrow. GregGarner, RockerFCC and CFreddie 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Aerojet 16* 3 wood ... AD-IZ6r Aerojet 20* 7 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, chisag said: .... Same price as the Kirkland V3's and you only have to buy 2 dozen and it's a urethane cover. But you better order or pick them up today because I have a feeling Tony will be poo-pooing them tomorrow. Unfortunately Kirkland golf balls not a thing here in Switzerland. Pretty sure the cost of golf balls here would make most all of you sick to your stomachs. Looking forward to the results tomorrow! Should be a fun read. chisag and RockerFCC 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 My thought in premium balls is the Z Star Diamond. I started playing it earlier this year and it’s a really nice ball. The cover lasts too but still spins very well on Wedges. I also like the feel of it putting. It’s a great Pro V1 equivalent at a cheaper price. If you find it on sale it’s a real deal. Moz, ZackS and RockerFCC 3 Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moz Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Srixon ZStar XV hands down best value for premium ball, imo. KC Golf, RockerFCC and Stuka44 3 Quote WITB DRIVER: Callaway Rogue ST Max LS 9* Tensei White AVLink 60 XStiff Irons: Wilson Staff D9 Forged 5-GW Wedges: Wilson Staff 54* and 60* Putter: Cleveland HB Soft Milled #1 UST All in One shaft- 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockerFCC Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I find a ton of the Kirkland balls when I play LOL, so I have tried them exclusively a couple rounds, I am actually pretty impressed, they feel great both off the driver and with irons, seem to perform well around the green, I really kind of like them. I normally use a Titleist NXT Tour, but these compare favorably I think. Quote Just your "normal" obsessed golfer in search of more shots with names of flying critters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackS Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, KC Golf said: My thought in premium balls is the Z Star Diamond. I started playing it earlier this year and it’s a really nice ball. The cover lasts too but still spins very well on Wedges. I also like the feel of it putting. It’s a great Pro V1 equivalent at a cheaper price. If you find it on sale it’s a real deal. I started using the Diamond as well and loving it. Snagged some in the buy 2 get 1 free sale around fathers day. I am getting more ball speed and spin then I had with the Pro V1 on the irons and yet the driver spin still stays pretty low. 3 hours ago, Moz said: Srixon ZStar XV hands down best value for premium ball, imo. I got 1 dozen of these with the 2 dozen of the Diamond's. I keep these for really windy or softer conditions as it is a little lower spinning on the irons. KC Golf 1 Quote WITB: Driver: Titleist TSR3 with TPT Nitro 15Hi 5 wood: Calloway Paradym Triple Diamond with TPT Power 15Lo Driving Iron: Tour Edge Exotics EXS Ti-Utility Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen2 hybrid with TPT Power 15Lo Irons: Takomo 101T with Nippon Modus 120 shafts Wedges: Celveland RTX4 50 Degree, Calloway Jaws Raw 58 degree Z grind and 54 degree S grind Putter: Edel EAS 4.0 Ball: Srixon Z Star Diamond / Z Star XV Official 2024 TPT Shaft Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fongle Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I just really like the SuperSofts. I'm aware they're a cheap ball, and don't have the best quality control etc, but the feel of them just works for me, and I tend to spin my shots a bit much off the tee normally, and they definitely seem to help with that. I did get sent some ERC Softs by the Callaway Aus team recently, and have been using them, but they feel a bit more 'clicky' off the face than I typically like. Quote Driver - King SZ 1w 7.5° w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 110MSI 60x Woods - King SZ Big Tour 3w 13.5° w/ Fujikura Pro 65, King SZ 5w 20° w/ Tensei CK White 70 Driving Iron - King Utility 2i 16° w/ Project X Hzrdus Black 85 Irons - Apex '24 Combo set - 4i Pro, 5i-8i CB, 9i-10i MB w/ KBS Tour V 120 X-Stiff Wedges - MD5 Jaws 52° - S 10° grind, 56° - C 8° grind, 60° - C 8° grind w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner Tour Issue 115 Putter(s) - O-Works 2 Ball Black, Big Bertha Warbird, Special Select Squareback 2.0, Red X2, Bullseye Original Flange SC, Bullseye Standard Flange SC, OG Bronze Anser, Method Midnight 007, R.Mendralla 8802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elight Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 I didn't include the Supersofts because my personal preference was not to use anything too soft. The Soft Feel was the softest, I think. I would say that the Soft Feel, e6 and Supersoft perform similarly in my experience, so it's a matter of preference for feel. Anyway, hoping tomorrow's ball test results are more interesting than mine! Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlax Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Echoing a lot of comments here, but Srixon Z-Star (all models) and Srixon Q-Star Tour. Srixon is one of the only brand of premium balls that comes to mind that has 40-50% off sales regularly, at least in my area, so that I can stack up for a very good price. Kirkland V2 balls offer an impossible-to-beat price but to me, they are very clicky and rock hard. I can use them with irons and wedges but they almost feel like they’re going to cave in my driver’s face, not to mention that they spin like crazy off the tee, especially with 3W and 2i. Edited August 28, 2023 by Shlax Kirkland Moz 1 Quote D: Rogue ST Max LS 9° / Rogue White 130 MSI 70X 3W: Sim Max 15° / Ventus Blue FW 6S 3H: TSi3 20° / True Temper Smoke Black RDX 6.0 80HYB 4i-PW: 01CB / Tour 130X 2023 tester 52°-56°-60°: Milled Grind 2 / True Temper S200 P: DFX 2-ball Ball: Q-Star Tour & Z-Star and TP5 & TP5x Grips: D-3W: Z-Grip Cord / 3H-PW: Crossline 360 / Wedges: Genesis Crossline Cord Bag: Anyday Ronin 14 2024 tester Stat tracking: X5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctg44 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 It has to be the QStar Tour now at $35 per dozen. The balls seems to fit many swing types. We're likely going to see a big bump in the newest gen when it arrives. Add their buy two and get the 3rd free occasionally, it's been a good value.I tend to play a lot of afternoon golf on my own, so in addition to the setting sun blinding me, I have to follow my own ball at decently high ball speeds most days. It's always a challenge, especially if I'm experiencing the driver yips, which for me is a hard draw when I am very much set up for my standard cut (think John Rahm recently, but 40ish yards shorter). The Q-Star Tour Divide balls have been amazing in these conditions, because of the changing colors during rotation making it easier for my eyes to detect it when dealing with the bright sun (which in Texas, AKA Hell North) this summer has been pretty much every time I have played. On top of that, I don't have the dead pulls at often and find it's MUCH easier to get a consistent cut with those than any other balls I've hit recently. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk chisag and NC Golfer 2 Quote Callaway Epic Flash Tour Certified - 8.5° with MCA Tensei Raw AV White 70 Gram Tour X - Tipped 1" - Set to N / -1 Callaway AiSmoke Triple Diamond - 15° 3-wood - Project X Denali 6.5 flex shaft - Set to N/S Taylormade P790 UDI 2 iron (2019) with TI X100 shaft (+5/8") Taylormade P7MC (2020) Irons - 4-9 (Standard L/L) with Tour Issue X100 Shafts at +5/8" Currently Testing: Toura CB (4-PW) - TT X100 shafts at +5/8" Taylormade MG4 48.09SB TI X100 and 52.09SB / 56.12SB / 60.07LBV wedges with DG TI Onyx Black X100 Shafts at +5/8" Golf Pride ZGRIP Plus2 on all clubs Sik DW (2.0) C Series Putter in black finish (36") with Sik Golf Black Pistol Balls: Mostly Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) On 5/30/2023 at 9:39 PM, elight said: "Value" means different things to different people. I am specifically looking for an inexpensive ball that will suit a high-handicapper Elight I just saw this ongoing post. To be fair I did not read each and every post. It really doesn't matter that you are a high handicap. It really only matters how much you spend on green fees in a year, and or new equipment on any regular basis, and how many balls you ACTUALLY LOSE in a year. I am not trying to be "smart" but when you say "value" there are costs that some people don't consider, and they will skimp on good balls, when it really doesn't change the cost of a round too awful much. If you are playing 10 times a year or less, and spending $350-500, and actually losing 20-30 balls in those 10 rounds then I would say simply purchase the cheapest ball you can find. THIS IS THE MATH ON MY SITUATION, AND YOU CAN USE THE MATH TO FIGURE OUT YOUR OWN VALUE! Again the main considerations must be HOW MUCH YOU SPEND YEARLY and HOW MANY BALLS YOU ARE ACTUALLY LOSING IN A YEAR. For round numbers I play 40 times a year and spend $1200, and lose right around 5 dozen balls. I use the Srixon Z-Star XV Tour Yellow, which for the last 5 years, and I don't know why it would stop, I can purchase at the end of the year on sale or special offer and get them for $35/dozen. $1200 + $175(5dozen 35$ balls)= 1375 /(divided by 40 rounds)= $34.38 per round. $1200+ $125(5dozen 25$ balls) = $1325/(divided by 40 rounds)= $33.13 per round. $1.25 less per round $1200+ $100(5dozen 20$ balls)= $1300/(divided by 40 rounds)=$32.50 per round. $1.88 less per round Here is some other food for thought. My $300 driver 70 rounds ago + $4.29 per round. New Irons $1800, 145 rounds ago to date + $12.41 per round. So my overall point is this. Depending on what your aim is with the game of golf, and how much you are, or are going to play the savings on golf balls may not be the windfall you think it is. Now to be clear, I have not had a golf ball fitting, and have never evaluated my swing on a Trackman. But if the Z-Star is more likely to stop dead (on the very rare occasions when my ball does hit close to the hole), and be less likely to take a 10 foot bounce and then stop, then that is something I am willing to pay $1.88 for. This is just my perspective on the whole "VALUE GOLF BALL DISCUSSION"!!! Edited August 30, 2023 by Stuka44 ZackS 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elight Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Stuka, I think you're on the right track. I will say that I think your math is off with your driver and irons. For one, that only takes into account prior usage, not future. It also doesn't take into account the residual value if you plan to sell it when you replace it. So if your $300 driver lasts another 70 rounds, and then you sell it for $100 (just guessing round numbers), it actually costs you $1.42/round, not $4.29/round. Now, you chose at some point to buy a $300 driver and not a $600 driver. If you had bought the $600 driver, played it for the same 140 rounds, and then sold it for $150, it would have cost you $3.21/round. Yet you went for the $300 choice, even though the $600 choice would have almost certainly been better in terms of performance. So for $1.79/round, you made the decision to go for less performance. This is the same type of decision that I am suggesting many golfers make in regards to their balls. If you choose a Maxfli StraightFli over a Maxfli Tour, and you use on average 5 balls per round, that's a $6.25/round difference. So if someone wouldn't upgrade their driver for $1.79/round, should they upgrade their ball for $6.25/round? You could say that you only use your driver at most 14 times per round, but you use your ball on every stroke. But I would also suggest that for high handicappers (and probably upper-mid-handicappers), the differences between a Tour-quality ball and a cheaper ball probably only come into play on a similar number--or fewer number--of strokes per round (i.e., greenside or pitch shots). In the end, as I've said, everyone needs to decide what has value to them. It will be different for different people. But we should consider this math to help inform those decisions. Some people go to Starbucks everyday to get a coffee, but I make mine at home. The one at Starbucks is better, but I decided that the cost isn't worth it for me. I'd rather save the $4/day, $20/week, $1000/year and spend it on something else. But that's me, and to each their own! I'm glad that we're having the conversation. With that said, I'm looking forward to more discussion about the official ball test results as well. As someone said, we need to, at some point, see the intersection of quality scores and performance scores. Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsimple Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 I'm a bit late to the convo, but I can't imagine a better deal than using lostgolfballs.com (no, I don't work for them). They always have a 15% off code, and during tournaments they do 20 (currently running 20% off for usopen). You can then get a top quality ball for great price and don't have to chase sales or anything like that. There are always people that play expensive balls....and they always lose them....so always a good supply. I'm a titleist AVX fan (plays like a softer prov1 with less spin....YMMV). A dozen near mint (4A) AVX balls is $13.59. To get free shipping (save $10) you need to spend $79....so you get 6 dozen for $81.55 and dont have to worry about buying balls for a while. I have ordered from them for years, always a great product (just don't get the refinished balls, 4A and 5A are great). The balls usually look like they were lost on the first couple holes, sometimes with logos or pen marks, but otherwise just like brand new. If you must have brand new cheap balls to lose, I would look in to wilson zips off amazon. Maybe the cheapest balls (other than maybe noodles), but hitting on the launch monitor fast and slow, numbers are pretty good across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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