sellemental Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Ever since I first read about it, I've been extremely intrigued about the Wilson Golf Fit AI system. Kinda seems to good to be true. Admittedly, I kinda have a soft spot for Wilson and I'm always pulling for them. Noticed they had a demo event near me recently, but hadn't planned on attending as I am not really looking to purchase new irons at this time. That is until I read the Dynapower forged iron article this week on MGS, decided to go ahead and sign up to check those beauties out. I really like the sales rep (he's been real good to me in the past), saw no one else had RSVP'd at the time, so I went ahead and scheduled. I arrived a little early and he quickly set me up in an open hitting bay, and inquired what I was looking for. Made it clear I was really just there to check out the new forged offering, and see what the AI fit was all about. He suggested I try different shafts out for a while and then we'll do the AI fit. I warmed up a bit with my 7 iron, and then he was quickly back with the forged fitting iron to try out in the stock shaft. 7-10 swings with that, then onto a different shaft. Think I tried 4 different shafts with mixed results. On paper, these shafts would possibly be good fits or ones I had interest in. Then we did the AI fit. Took just a few minutes on his phone to answer various typical questions you'd expect, then he handed me the fitting iron with the blast sensor in it, and asked me to take 5 swings. The fitting sensor in the butt of the club is the only sensor, for those wondering. Took my time to try and make 5 solid swings. I'll say 3 were solid, one bad, one ehhh. So much for that plan, but honestly, pretty typical for a good hacker, as I often refer to myself as. Stepped out of the bay, he hit the button on his phone, and in less than a minute, it spit out results. One steel shaft and one graphite shaft selection. Off he went to build the club. I play graphite currently, so was back in a minute with that option. I have to say, it nailed it !!!! REALLY NAILED IT !!!!! Other than one extremely bad swing, results were amazing. All of em, literally. Felt so good, most hammering the sweet spot (really love the power holes sweet spot feel) on most shots, and still good solid numbers when not hitting it. I should point out I had tried the same shaft model but at a different weight in the initial 4 shafts before the AI fitting, with probably the worst results out of all of the initial shafts. Then I switched to the recommended steel shaft setup, and also got phenomenal results. Slightly shorter, slightly tighter dispersion than the graphite recommendation, but still outstanding. Really felt the power hole sweet spot explosiveness more with the steel shaft set up, but I attribute that to the fact of the material. I was very impressed with the system. Obviously I'm only one example, but it was pretty quick and easy, and my results were frankly incredible. The only change we made was not doing the recommended 2 up lie angle that was recommended, simply the flat standard setting. FWIW, he mentioned more than one fitter he has talked to in the past believes they see way too many 2 up lie angle recommendations. SO, Is this the future of fittings, can it be expanded to cover any type club, can one be created that is entirely brand agnostic? Would love to hear what others think or if they've tried it ? LInk to their fitting page: https://www.wilson.com/en-us/explore/golf/golf-fit-ai jbern, HikingMike, Wheelieb and 6 others 7 2 Quote ZX7 Driver 9.5 Stiff flex Smoke Black shaft 3HL 17 Rocketballz Matrix Ozik Stiff C300 Hybrids 20. 23 Fujikura Speeder Stiff Stealth 5- GW Ventus Red 6-R (Sorry, no Edison logo as of yet) Edison 49 and 55 degree wedges RTX 4 56/8 64/6 Raw Wedges ER5 CS 35 in putter V3 GPS Shot tracker watch OnCore Elixr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBall15 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I’m intrigued in the process and going to try and get out to the local shops that have the ai fit. Like you I’m not necessarily in the market for new irons, but I’m also glancing at the Srixon Zx 5 mkii and now the dynapower forged are on my radar as well. Rob Person, tigerpill, Owengeorge13 and 3 others 4 2 Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops, Ventus Blue 6X Fairways: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 3 and 5 wood, Project X Riptide CB 6.0 Hybrid: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 22 degree, Project X Riptide 6.0 Irons: PXG 0311P Gen 5 5-PW, Project X LS 6.5 Wedges: PXG SG2 50, 56(55), Modus 125 Wedge; PXG SG 2 60, KBS 130 Wedge Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Red SB Ball: Maxfli Tour S MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I will be going into the shop next week to give this a run. Really looking forward to it and happy they cater to both left and right handed players! HikingMike, William P, Rob Person and 6 others 7 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBall15 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I will be going into the shop next week to give this a run. Really looking forward to it and happy they cater to both left and right handed players! As a lefty, it’s refreshing to see. Can’t tell you how many times I see a club posted online and go look it up and see it right hand only William P, GolfSpy_APH and Rob Person 3 Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops, Ventus Blue 6X Fairways: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 3 and 5 wood, Project X Riptide CB 6.0 Hybrid: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 22 degree, Project X Riptide 6.0 Irons: PXG 0311P Gen 5 5-PW, Project X LS 6.5 Wedges: PXG SG2 50, 56(55), Modus 125 Wedge; PXG SG 2 60, KBS 130 Wedge Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Red SB Ball: Maxfli Tour S MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, BreakfastBall15 said: As a lefty, it’s refreshing to see. Can’t tell you how many times I see a club posted online and go look it up and see it right hand only Fellow lefty! You're speaking the truth. It's terrible here in Switzerland as well. Most shops don't event carry lefty demos. It's special order only. BreakfastBall15, Rob Person and William P 3 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelieb Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I feel like the Mizuno shaft optimizer does something similar. I may be wrong in that regard though. William P, Rob Person, Owengeorge13 and 1 other 4 Quote Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max 9* with Tensei AV Blue 55 PXG 5 and 7 woods with Mitsubishi Diamana Shafts Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts Taylormade Hi-Toe 54 and 58 degree wedges Ping Prime Tyne 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Wheelieb said: I feel like the Mizuno shaft optimizer does something similar. I may be wrong in that regard though. similar idea. Mizuno is just about the shaft and measures a few data points (4). The Wilson is fitting the head and shaft and in theory measures significantly more data points (12,000) Edited February 17 by cnosil jbern, William P, Wheelieb and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owengeorge13 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Looking forward to seeing how this works. Rob Person and William P 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, sellemental said: The only change we made was not doing the recommended 2 up lie angle that was recommended, simply the flat standard setting. FWIW, he mentioned more than one fitter he has talked to in the past believes they see way too many 2 up lie angle recommendations. @sellemental, it's funny you mentioned the too many 2 degrees up comment. This week we had visit by a Srixon representative. We don't get too many that venture all the way down US1. I was at the course and he looked lonely, so I stopped in to try out the ZX4 MkII irons (I actually hit them pretty well). As we finished, I mentioned that I used to be 2 degrees up. To took back the iron, adjusted to 2 degrees up and gave it back. My first several shots were hooks! His response was "Hooking the ball..what a surprise! I can't tell you how many people say they are 2 degrees up and aren't!" Edited February 17 by Golf2Much Rob Person, jbern, sellemental and 2 others 3 2 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie 2022 MGS Tester: Shot Scope Pro XL+ with H4 2023 MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellemental Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, cnosil said: similar idea. Mizuno is just about the shaft and measures a few data points (4). The Wilson is fitting the head and shaft and in theory measures significantly more data points (12,000) I tried the shaft optimizer a couple years back, like cnosil says, similar, but not. Results were interesting, but not as much as I was hoping for I guess. Exactly the attitude that particular fitter had about it to interestingly. What I'm really desperately waiting for is a driver shaft/ head optimizer or AI fitting. Maybe I'd be able to find a decent driver swing again, LOL ! cnosil, Rob Person and HikingMike 3 Quote ZX7 Driver 9.5 Stiff flex Smoke Black shaft 3HL 17 Rocketballz Matrix Ozik Stiff C300 Hybrids 20. 23 Fujikura Speeder Stiff Stealth 5- GW Ventus Red 6-R (Sorry, no Edison logo as of yet) Edison 49 and 55 degree wedges RTX 4 56/8 64/6 Raw Wedges ER5 CS 35 in putter V3 GPS Shot tracker watch OnCore Elixr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 14 hours ago, sellemental said: Then we did the AI fit. Took just a few minutes on his phone to answer various typical questions you'd expect, then he handed me the fitting iron with the blast sensor in it, and asked me to take 5 swings. The fitting sensor in the butt of the club is the only sensor, for those wondering. So the AI fit is a stand-alone club? This type of fitting is very interesting to me! I’d love to hear about the tech behind the sensor. I guess I have to try to find a demo event near me! HikingMike, Wheelieb and Rob Person 3 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: AL-6 armlock | Unofficial review here Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellemental Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 8 hours ago, jbern said: So the AI fit is a stand-alone club? This type of fitting is very interesting to me! I’d love to hear about the tech behind the sensor. I guess I have to try to find a demo event near me! That is correct, it is a standalone club. It is a "standard" Wilson Iron with a standard stock steel shaft, and a Blast Motion Sensor in the butt of the handle. The sensor takes the data from your 5 swings, plugs it into their algorithm, and spits out your recommendation results. We hear from all the OEM's how they took thousands and thousands of swing data points, plugged it into their AI whatever to create all the latest and greatest equipment for all of us, which is cool. I say KUDOS to Wilson for taking it to the next step creating a tool that drills right down to each individual directly. We're always told the key to getting proper equipment is get fit. What's better than easy, simple, quick, and accurate fittings for everyone? Rob Person, BreakfastBall15 and HikingMike 3 Quote ZX7 Driver 9.5 Stiff flex Smoke Black shaft 3HL 17 Rocketballz Matrix Ozik Stiff C300 Hybrids 20. 23 Fujikura Speeder Stiff Stealth 5- GW Ventus Red 6-R (Sorry, no Edison logo as of yet) Edison 49 and 55 degree wedges RTX 4 56/8 64/6 Raw Wedges ER5 CS 35 in putter V3 GPS Shot tracker watch OnCore Elixr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikingMike Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/17/2024 at 7:36 AM, sellemental said: Ever since I first read about it, I've been extremely intrigued about the Wilson Golf Fit AI system. Kinda seems to good to be true. Admittedly, I kinda have a soft spot for Wilson and I'm always pulling for them. Noticed they had a demo event near me recently, but hadn't planned on attending as I am not really looking to purchase new irons at this time. That is until I read the Dynapower forged iron article this week on MGS, decided to go ahead and sign up to check those beauties out. I really like the sales rep (he's been real good to me in the past), saw no one else had RSVP'd at the time, so I went ahead and scheduled. I arrived a little early and he quickly set me up in an open hitting bay, and inquired what I was looking for. Made it clear I was really just there to check out the new forged offering, and see what the AI fit was all about. He suggested I try different shafts out for a while and then we'll do the AI fit. I warmed up a bit with my 7 iron, and then he was quickly back with the forged fitting iron to try out in the stock shaft. 7-10 swings with that, then onto a different shaft. Think I tried 4 different shafts with mixed results. On paper, these shafts would possibly be good fits or ones I had interest in. Then we did the AI fit. Took just a few minutes on his phone to answer various typical questions you'd expect, then he handed me the fitting iron with the blast sensor in it, and asked me to take 5 swings. The fitting sensor in the butt of the club is the only sensor, for those wondering. Took my time to try and make 5 solid swings. I'll say 3 were solid, one bad, one ehhh. So much for that plan, but honestly, pretty typical for a good hacker, as I often refer to myself as. Stepped out of the bay, he hit the button on his phone, and in less than a minute, it spit out results. One steel shaft and one graphite shaft selection. Off he went to build the club. I play graphite currently, so was back in a minute with that option. I have to say, it nailed it !!!! REALLY NAILED IT !!!!! Other than one extremely bad swing, results were amazing. All of em, literally. Felt so good, most hammering the sweet spot (really love the power holes sweet spot feel) on most shots, and still good solid numbers when not hitting it. I should point out I had tried the same shaft model but at a different weight in the initial 4 shafts before the AI fitting, with probably the worst results out of all of the initial shafts. Then I switched to the recommended steel shaft setup, and also got phenomenal results. Slightly shorter, slightly tighter dispersion than the graphite recommendation, but still outstanding. Really felt the power hole sweet spot explosiveness more with the steel shaft set up, but I attribute that to the fact of the material. I was very impressed with the system. Obviously I'm only one example, but it was pretty quick and easy, and my results were frankly incredible. The only change we made was not doing the recommended 2 up lie angle that was recommended, simply the flat standard setting. FWIW, he mentioned more than one fitter he has talked to in the past believes they see way too many 2 up lie angle recommendations. SO, Is this the future of fittings, can it be expanded to cover any type club, can one be created that is entirely brand agnostic? Would love to hear what others think or if they've tried it ? LInk to their fitting page: https://www.wilson.com/en-us/explore/golf/golf-fit-ai This is awesome, I'm glad you posted about it. I remember reading the MGS article. Well let me dig that up and link it. I was hoping to hear more about it. I have a feeling this will be a big part of the future of club fitting. It's a natural fit for AI/ML with plenty of data out there from people swinging and launch monitors/sims and everything. Sensors in a club make a lot of sense. It should really follow that it will be able to fit you so you will hit better (than if you were in suboptimally fit equipment). I see Wilson lists some Golf Discounts in their locator for Golf Fit AI. And there happens to be a new one going up in my town actually, so maybe that will have it. sellemental and Rob Person 2 Quote Driver: G20 3W: King Speedzone (adj loft +1.5 to 16 deg) Irons: i200 (3 thru PW & UW) Wedge: Ray Cook 60 deg Putter: Spalding TP Mills 3 Tech: on Apple Watch & phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Anyone have a chance to test the new FitAI system yet? tigerpill and Rob Person 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Have not. Read about it. I'm not sure what it really brings to the table. Seems limited based on what I read. Rob Person and russtopherb 1 1 Quote TigerPill Driver : Rogue ST Max 10.5 Degrees 3 Wood/5 wood: Rogue ST Max 19 Degree Hybrid: G425 5-LW: ZX5, Recoil 760/F3, GW, SW, LW - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HikingMike Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, tigerpill said: Have not. Read about it. I'm not sure what it really brings to the table. Seems limited based on what I read. To me it seems like it would be a quick and accurate way to get a good fit based on your swing compared with zillions of other real people's swings and their ideal outcomes, and it has fantastic potential. I need to check for this at the place I want to visit. I don't know if they carry any Wilson. tigerpill, Rob Person, JohnSmalls and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G20 3W: King Speedzone (adj loft +1.5 to 16 deg) Irons: i200 (3 thru PW & UW) Wedge: Ray Cook 60 deg Putter: Spalding TP Mills 3 Tech: on Apple Watch & phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 2/17/2024 at 12:51 PM, BreakfastBall15 said: I’m intrigued in the process and going to try and get out to the local shops that have the ai fit. Like you I’m not necessarily in the market for new irons, but I’m also glancing at the Srixon Zx 5 mkii and now the dynapower forged are on my radar as well. Put money on you loving the ZX5s. HikingMike, Rob Person and BreakfastBall15 3 Quote TigerPill Driver : Rogue ST Max 10.5 Degrees 3 Wood/5 wood: Rogue ST Max 19 Degree Hybrid: G425 5-LW: ZX5, Recoil 760/F3, GW, SW, LW - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, HikingMike said: To me it seems like it would be a quick and accurate way to get a good fit based on your swing compared with zillions of other real people's swings and their ideal outcomes, and it has fantastic potential. I need to check for this at the place I want to visit. I don't know if they carry any Wilson. I guess I was thinking 5 swings wasn't enough, but maybe with the 10s of 1000s of swings they have collected the AI is pretty good. I wouldn't rule out trying it. I am somewhat old fashion in my thinking. Want to see it fly and have someone tweaking things for me. Rob Person and HikingMike 2 Quote TigerPill Driver : Rogue ST Max 10.5 Degrees 3 Wood/5 wood: Rogue ST Max 19 Degree Hybrid: G425 5-LW: ZX5, Recoil 760/F3, GW, SW, LW - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBall15 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 23 minutes ago, tigerpill said: Put money on you loving the ZX5s. I got to hit a demo gen 1 zx5 and it was phenomenal. Going to do a fitting in a few weeks to try out a bunch of stuff but those are the leader in the clubhouse JohnSmalls, tigerpill, Owengeorge13 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops, Ventus Blue 6X Fairways: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 3 and 5 wood, Project X Riptide CB 6.0 Hybrid: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 22 degree, Project X Riptide 6.0 Irons: PXG 0311P Gen 5 5-PW, Project X LS 6.5 Wedges: PXG SG2 50, 56(55), Modus 125 Wedge; PXG SG 2 60, KBS 130 Wedge Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Red SB Ball: Maxfli Tour S MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpill Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, BreakfastBall15 said: I got to hit a demo gen 1 zx5 and it was phenomenal. Going to do a fitting in a few weeks to try out a bunch of stuff but those are the leader in the clubhouse I love the Srixon irons. I will say the Wilsons have caught my eye. I was fit for my Srixons in March of 22'. I was excited when I heard they were doing them in black, only to find out not for the lefties! I'm eager to see if they do anything new in 2025. I have also considered a mix set with the ZX7 or even 4s. I didn't hit the others in 22'. Fell in love with the 5s instantly. Owengeorge13, HikingMike, BreakfastBall15 and 1 other 4 Quote TigerPill Driver : Rogue ST Max 10.5 Degrees 3 Wood/5 wood: Rogue ST Max 19 Degree Hybrid: G425 5-LW: ZX5, Recoil 760/F3, GW, SW, LW - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBall15 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 12 minutes ago, tigerpill said: I love the Srixon irons. I will say the Wilsons have caught my eye. I was fit for my Srixons in March of 22'. I was excited when I heard they were doing them in black, only to find out not for the lefties! I'm eager to see if they do anything new in 2025. I have also considered a mix set with the ZX7 or even 4s. I didn't hit the others in 22'. Fell in love with the 5s instantly. The fact the blackouts were available for lefties still stings tigerpill and Rob Person 2 Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops, Ventus Blue 6X Fairways: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 3 and 5 wood, Project X Riptide CB 6.0 Hybrid: PXG 0311 XF Gen 5 22 degree, Project X Riptide 6.0 Irons: PXG 0311P Gen 5 5-PW, Project X LS 6.5 Wedges: PXG SG2 50, 56(55), Modus 125 Wedge; PXG SG 2 60, KBS 130 Wedge Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT Red SB Ball: Maxfli Tour S MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, tigerpill said: I love the Srixon irons. I will say the Wilsons have caught my eye. I was fit for my Srixons in March of 22'. I was excited when I heard they were doing them in black, only to find out not for the lefties! I'm eager to see if they do anything new in 2025. I have also considered a mix set with the ZX7 or even 4s. I didn't hit the others in 22'. Fell in love with the 5s instantly. I have Srixon's and so many manufacturers leave us Lefties out of a lot of choices. I wanted the Utility Iron in a 2 and they don't offer it. Also was really interested in the Z forged II's and not available. I will say it has gotten a lot better over the years but still a long ways off. The Wilson Staff MB/CB look awesome but no left handed yet. I'm hoping that changes. Rob Person, tigerpill and Owengeorge13 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellemental Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 Seems like you lefties have hijacked my thread ! TOTALLY KIDDING !! I'm actually a lefty also, but golf right handed. Natural progression from baseball, and more so a two handed backhand in tennis. I empathize with you all ! Josh Parker, JohnSmalls, Rob Person and 2 others 2 3 Quote ZX7 Driver 9.5 Stiff flex Smoke Black shaft 3HL 17 Rocketballz Matrix Ozik Stiff C300 Hybrids 20. 23 Fujikura Speeder Stiff Stealth 5- GW Ventus Red 6-R (Sorry, no Edison logo as of yet) Edison 49 and 55 degree wedges RTX 4 56/8 64/6 Raw Wedges ER5 CS 35 in putter V3 GPS Shot tracker watch OnCore Elixr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, tigerpill said: I guess I was thinking 5 swings wasn't enough, but maybe with the 10s of 1000s of swings they have collected the AI is pretty good. I wouldn't rule out trying it. I am somewhat old fashion in my thinking. Want to see it fly and have someone tweaking things for me. 5 swings is the max you should take. This plays out in a fitting as well; fitters should only let you take 3 to a max of 5 swings with a club to prevent you from changing your swing to make the club work. The Wilson fitting system; like the mizuno shaft optimizer, has you take a few swings and they measure aspects of your swing. Those results are compared against what others were fit into to give you a starting point. Then you hit the recommendations and see of the work and feel. One of the potential advantages is that it helps reduce the number of swings you need to take to get fit which means you are not fatigued when you get to the end of your session. You like old fashion; this means you have a fitter who sees you swing and gets numbers from a launch monitor or ball flight and then based on experience gives you something else to try which continues until you get to a good combination. The Wilson system is no different except the knowledge is stored in a larger more comprehensive database and not in someone's head so you get to the good combinations faster. Edited March 5 by cnosil Rob Person, sellemental, Josh Parker and 3 others 4 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 25 minutes ago, sellemental said: Seems like you lefties have hijacked my thread ! TOTALLY KIDDING !! I'm actually a lefty also, but golf right handed. Natural progression from baseball, and more so a two handed backhand in tennis. I empathize with you all ! Haha. I served left handed and switched to right on the follow thru for that exact reason in tennis. sellemental and Rob Person 2 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owengeorge13 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 minutes ago, cnosil said: 5 swings is the max you should take. This plays out in a fitting as well; fitters should only let you take 3 to a max of 5 swings with a club to prevent you from changing your swing to make the club work. The Wilson fitting system; like the mizuno shaft optimizer, has you take a few swings and they measure aspects of your swing. Those results are compared against what others were fit into to give you a starting point. Then you hit the recommendations and see of the work and feel. One of the potential advantages is that it helps reduce the number of swings you need to take to get fit which means you are not fatigued when you get to the end of your session. You like old fashion; this means you have a fitter who sees you swing and gets numbers from a launch monitor or ball flight and then based on experience gives you something else to try which continues until you get to a good combination. The Wilson system is no different except the knowledge is stored in a larger more comprehensive database and not in someone's head so you get to the good combinations faster. I’m assuming the matrix of shafts available from the fitting system is limited to what Wilson/mizuno has available? Is either fitting system brand agnostic for shafts? Rob Person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Owengeorge13 said: I’m assuming the matrix of shafts available from the fitting system is limited to what Wilson/mizuno has available? Is either fitting system brand agnostic for shafts? I would assume that if covers stock and upcharge shafts that you can order from either Wilson or Mizuno. Wilson and Mizuno don't make shafts so yes it is brand agnostic. I don't know how many shafts the Wilson recommends but the Mizuno system gives you three recommendations. Also, if you are using a fitter, they should be able to recommend other shafts that match the profile of the recommendations if you are against the recommendation. tigerpill, JohnSmalls and Rob Person 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Josh Parker said: The Wilson Staff MB/CB look awesome but no left handed yet They are both available for lefties through the custom order part of Wilson's website (as of a couple of days ago) tigerpill and Rob Person 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, JohnSmalls said: They are both available for lefties through the custom order part of Wilson's website (as of a couple of days ago) Good to know! I had just looked but wasn't under the custom option. tigerpill, JohnSmalls and Rob Person 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Josh Parker said: Good to know! I had just looked but wasn't under the custom option. You got it! I was building a dream set the other day. Can confirm they had lefty options in stock then Rob Person and tigerpill 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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