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I've been playing with older players lately who hit their drivers 220 if they hit it on the screws...and they have kicked my butt. I am learning something from them, don't have to be long to score well. You have to be long eventually if you want to get a lot of birdies but if you're trying to break 90 or 80....length is only good if it's going where you want it. You can still get par with a short(er) tee shot, a longer iron to get somewhere around the green and then a decent chip. Just shows the importance of the short game. Also why I can't get my score down cause I'll crush the driving range for hours a week but spend 30 min total on chipping.
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I've always asked if I'm going to stand behind the player. And even when they say it is fine, I'm WAY behind them and perfectly still. Generally though, I do the stay to the side (not moving) and as the putt is rolling I'll calmly walk behind to see more where it is breaking. I may also read their putt as they are reading and choose a mark on the green that I'd have hit and see if they go above or below and see the results. Can help me get the degree of the break without having to worry about standing behind.
- Micah T and xOldBenKenobiX
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Love the theory on the article below. I have my own thoughts and some assumptions...
1. Lets assume they play like we, or at least many of us, do. Get out of car, stroll up, hit a few at the range and then go at a new course with only the score card and maybe a GPS. I'm adding 1 stroke.
2. Course conditions - many of our public course do not have pristine greens or sand (not that they'd be in it but they're not perfect) (0.5 strokes - 1.5 strokes)
3. No caddie/markers - This is related to #1 in a way but if they have an errant tee shot could be a lost ball in there. (0.5 strokes)
So what I'm saying that if they played a single round then I think they'd be more in the mid 60's. Of course if you let them play more than like 2 rounds, they'll be approaching the high 50's on the regular (IMO)
https://mygolfspy.com/tour-stats-what-would-tiger-shoot-on-your-home-course/
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I'm trying to figure out how we're defining "under-rated". Is it simply not getting any coverage? I'd go Kiz but the foreplay boys have brought his stock up. Na is a great pick as well but his social media presence brings him way up. Also like Abraham Ancer though.
The guy who I think of is Webb Simpson. He's won a major but I just rarely hear him outside of golf circles get any credit. I guess I look at it in a way where if I went out and asked people if they ever heard of ________, not sure he'd be on anyones mind.
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Yep to all above. Get fit. Get the numbers. and then when ready to buy, get fit again and see if there are differences. Also agree with being up front about not purchasing. It might save some of his breath.
But do bring up that you're considering lesser cost options. Could change how he's using the time with you. May have you try different grips and may focus on shaft options for your club. The more info a good fitter has the better.
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17 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:
Looks like Phil is onto something with these new spectacles... though I think they only work on Thursday and Friday.
Come Saturday, he needs a change up...
Phil is very quickly approaching old man who thinks he's cool status. His attitude is awesome but leave the outfits and accessories to the young guys.
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3 hours ago, Joker said:
I saw and have already asked for a refund on my tickets
Not sure what the policy is on reselling but I think you could have made a profit on them if you sold in open market. Or even sold to a friend. But I know there are policies against it so I could be very wrong here.
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It's not a specific hole that kills me, it's a type of hole.
Short Par 4's. I can't make myself to hit an iron off the tee. Testosterone + 1% chance of driving the green = bogey or worse
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I'd add something even more simple here. Of course lessons are the way to go to really understand things but they could also find a friend (you if you're close) and call a course and get the last tee time of the day. Bring a bunch of crappy golf balls and go out and play a few holes with them. Like with children, first step is to make them enjoy what they're doing and having fun.
Being last out on the day will allow you to not feel rushed at all. Bring a few brews and have fun with them. I'm sure you know enough to help them start hitting the ball. Then have them take the intro lessons as everyone has stated above. As for clubs, it is my uneducated opinion that at start, the cheaper the better.
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On 7/2/2020 at 11:51 AM, SnakeDoc said:
Have fun on the tournament, don't forget to share with us how it went.
Well, the 2 person scramble went really well. Finished at Even so was middle of hte pack. Kind of what I'd expect from two 10-15 handicaps. Left a few strokes out there but over all a great time.
The solo event on the other hand..... just a tip for everyone...don't stay up to 3am drinking with buddies when you have a golf tournament tee off time of 7:13am. I almost passed out on the putting green prior to the round. Finished last place.
- Tom the Golf Nut and cnosil
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The first time I'd wave and if close to each other just say something like "hey, this isn't us, even if you pass us you will be held up in front"
If they did it again, I'd see what kind of ball it is. If it's good I'd pocket it, if not then I'd take a wedge and hit it back towards them.
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Just in case you were curious, I'm playing in 2.
One tomorrow is a 2 person scramble event at my home course and this is what I was referring to in my strategy above: http://www.southridinggc.com/course/The second is on the 4th and is an individual handicapped event here: http://www.pleasantvalleygc.com/course/
The individual event is at a course I've played a few times but am not super familiar enough to come up with a great strategy.
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Thanks all. Looking at the course, I will go red on all the par 5's, there is a par 4 where you can reach in 1 from reds (cuts off a dog leg), and then a par 3 where the red is a wedge shot and you don't have to go over a bunker.
The #1 handicap hole is rather interesting and will go with blue on it because being back actually take a water hazard out of play. Will be interesting! Looking forward to it. -
On 6/24/2020 at 1:31 PM, gavinski91 said:
As an example, consider this hole at a local course in my area. 375 yard par 4 from the white tees, with a 130 yard forced carry - for just about any amateur the hole requires a driver off the tee. Fairway is about 100 feet wide. Down the entire right side of the fairway is water, down the entire left side is OB. With the current rules, a right-handed player who hits a slice that bounces off the fairway and out takes a 1 stroke penalty and a drop. If their playing partner hits a hook that bounces off the fairway and out they take a 2 stroke penalty and a drop. Both players missed the fairway, so they should both be penalized. But why are we penalizing one more than the other?
I agree with almost everything you said here but I can TRY to give a reasoning to a more severe penalty. OB in many cases is near houses so the course might want to protect those houses. Making a more severe penalty might be the only way to offer that protection.
With that said though, my entire playing life (before keeping a handicap), I've treated OB as red and so does almost everyone I've ever played with. Kind of makes the "more severe penalty" theory a bit moot. -
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Not sure if any of you have participated in one of these tournaments before, but for those who have not, this is a format where the golfer can choose 6 holes from each of 3 tee locations (usually red (forward), white (middle), and blue (back). I've done it once and really enjoyed it.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to best choose? If it's a course I play a lot I'd think this is easier but if it's a new course, do you go by handicap (choose the red for the hardest holes)? Or always use the red for the par 5's to increase eagle chances?
I think I'm going to go red's for all par 5's and then choose 2 par 3's for the other 2. For the blue's I'll look at the other par 3's to see if it allows for a full club rather than a half swing or something. Any other tips out there?
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Last year I got fit and the improvement in my game is incredible. I did go from Super Game Improvement (2007 R7 Draw Irons) to the 2017 P790's which I don't know what kind htey are other than forged. My consistency is greatly improved and handicap has come down about 4 strokes. It's not all because of the irons but my confidence has gone up big time since I got them.
I think the most important thing is to play what gives you the most confidence. If fitting gives you that (it will) then do it, if you can be confident with whatever you have in your bag now..play that. -
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22 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:
Good question/topic. I no longer maintain a formal handicap, so I really cannot offer comparison. It will be interesting to hear from the forum members who do keep handicaps. You might find this article interesting.
https://www.usga.org/handicapping-articles/how-well-should-you-play-25502.html
Thank you for this article! This quote explained it all to me and I'm actually embarrassed I didn't do more research on my own (or my own critical thinking). "The USGA's Handicap Research Team tells us that the average player is expected to play to his Course Handicap or better only about 25 percent of the time"
So my next question then is...what is everyone's range? Mine is a 78 to 98 in my past 20 rounds. So 20 strokes. I've seen worse for sure.- Nic, fixyurdivot and gavinski91
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So I am, at this very moment, a 9.6 handicap but the average of my last 20 rounds is 87.8. Now, I get that the handicap is more a measure of your potential and not your average. I also get that average score is a flawed stat since you need to take difficulty int consideration. So although I'm a 9.6, I usually play closer to a 12. I'm just curious what others see in their scoring trends? Does anyone think there is a better way to do it? <- doubt that but should be an interesting conversation.
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If they're friends, I want them to play well. I also want them to play poorly so they explode and I can laugh at them and have a good time busting each others chops.
If I'm in a tourney, I want them playing poorly. But not so poorly that they become disruptive to my round.Pace of play is more important to me. I'm much more a Brooks than a Bryson. If I play with someone who is slow, I play much worse.
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Depends how many "serious" rounds I play in.
I go against the MyGolfSpy advice of always playing the same ball. My friday night golf league is a 2 person scramble league and I'll play some used E6 Soft balls I buy from LostGolfBalls.com and might go through 18-24 a month. So not super expensive.
If I play a round where I'm doing more than just practicing and am trying for a score I'll lose from 1-4 a round. I play ProV1, so 4-6 "real" rounds a month starts to add up.Now that the background is out of the way, I'd say on average through the playing season I'm around $50 a month.
Which just got really depressing to think about.
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100%. Everyone would love to have controlled distance. But, if you're someone who averages a 96 and are hoping to break 90 for the first time, I'd be willing to bet that most of these players put a premium on distance over accuracy. I think they should give up 40-60 yards but take away 3 OOB a round to hit an iron or hybrid off the tee. Large number of assumptions on my part of course.
This is an interesting take away and I had never thought about it that way. You are obviously right because if I get more distance it means I got rid of my slice and will be straighter. I think my overall point is that you have to know your game and if you're losing balls off the tee cause of terrible driving then it would likely help to hit an iron and give up that distance. I know this is the case for me. I absolutely need to work more on my short game more than my approach shot to see a improvement in my scores.