kfilly20 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 No most wanted, barely any reviews. There is more on bags than on wedges. Whats the deal? R15 White 10.5° Accra FX-260 M4 915F 3W Aldila Rogue Black 110 stiff 915H 4H MRC Diamana D+ Whiteboard 90 HY Stiff 716 T-MB 3 iron True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 Rsi 2's 5-9 - True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 SM6 46 SM6 52* SM6 56* Mack Daddy 2 PM grind 60* Newport 2.5 Dual Balance ProV1X Game Golf : kfilly20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 What have they done differently or innovating to wedges in the last twenty years worth talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfilly20 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 What have they done differently or innovating to wedges in the last twenty years worth talking about? ? You could say that about any club in the bag imo. Improvements and changes are very rarely game changers. R15 White 10.5° Accra FX-260 M4 915F 3W Aldila Rogue Black 110 stiff 915H 4H MRC Diamana D+ Whiteboard 90 HY Stiff 716 T-MB 3 iron True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 Rsi 2's 5-9 - True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 SM6 46 SM6 52* SM6 56* Mack Daddy 2 PM grind 60* Newport 2.5 Dual Balance ProV1X Game Golf : kfilly20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I've been on the site for three years or so. There have certainly been threads about wedges during that time and wedge reviews. None of these have been recent and so you don't see them unless you scroll down deeper. A lot of us fell in love with SCOR (now Hogan) and that could be a part of it. Let's see what happens with the Hogan reviews. They will include a look at the wedges. You could always start a thread on wedges yourself and see what pops up. I used to worry about them more but you'd have to pry my SCORS from my hands with a wrench. They have a very unique sole, two soles really, that take some getting used to but once you do you they make wedge play lots of fun. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 ? You could say that about any club in the bag imo. Improvements and changes are very rarely game changers. Really?? Any club in the bag??? In 20 years??? Uh... wait, i see you are from Utah... I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I have been very curious myself. Also why I threw a review on my new mizuno mp t5s. Most of the reviews you will probably find here in the forums. Personally I would like to get a "where is the cog" for wedges, Like they did for the drivers. Helps when you are trying to get more spin, might also explain why some wedges never feel right. Just some ideas My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfilly20 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Really?? Any club in the bag??? In 20 years??? Uh... wait, i see you are from Utah... I get it now. Thanks for participating. You're a really cool guy. R15 White 10.5° Accra FX-260 M4 915F 3W Aldila Rogue Black 110 stiff 915H 4H MRC Diamana D+ Whiteboard 90 HY Stiff 716 T-MB 3 iron True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 Rsi 2's 5-9 - True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 SM6 46 SM6 52* SM6 56* Mack Daddy 2 PM grind 60* Newport 2.5 Dual Balance ProV1X Game Golf : kfilly20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfilly20 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 I have been very curious myself. Also why I threw a review on my new mizuno mp t5s. Most of the reviews you will probably find here in the forums. Personally I would like to get a "where is the cog" for wedges, Like they did for the drivers. Helps when you are trying to get more spin, might also explain why some wedges never feel right. Just some ideas I had been playing a Clevelend, Titleist SM$ and Mizuno ....I HATED the Cleveland and loved the Titleist and Mizuno. I had the SM4's most recently and I am now looking to get some new wedges and am having trouble deciding between the SM5's and the Mack Daddy 2's ....... Have hit them all, a lot, at the local golf shops and those 2 are the ones I think feel the best. Would have been interested in seeing the a Most Wanted article about all the new wedges. I have looked into Scor but I might have to look into them a bit harder. R15 White 10.5° Accra FX-260 M4 915F 3W Aldila Rogue Black 110 stiff 915H 4H MRC Diamana D+ Whiteboard 90 HY Stiff 716 T-MB 3 iron True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 Rsi 2's 5-9 - True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 SM6 46 SM6 52* SM6 56* Mack Daddy 2 PM grind 60* Newport 2.5 Dual Balance ProV1X Game Golf : kfilly20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Just remember that Hogan is the new SCOR. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ah, the SCORs.........after the review last year on the SCORs, I spent a good 3 months trying to find the right ones on eBay, finally settled on a 50/54/57 set that was in my price range. Let me tell you, that's the best thing I did. They are absolutely golden. I have become so much more accurate in my approaches from under 100 yards. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think with the clevelands I just didn't get the right bounce. The swing weight was perfect for me. With so many custom options scor would be a great choice. That and the grinds would be better explained. Theres almost none for the mizunos, but you can see the change in grind. Since my irons were mizuno I ended up getting a more tailored swing weight / shaft combo with the mizuno wedges as well. My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 The V sole of the SCORs is one reason for their success......I don't dig into the turf as much anymore. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think there is a bunch of stuff on wedges here, maybe not in the form of testing and reviews, but there have been many threads where they have been discussed in detail. I think that wedges are more personal preference than any other club in the bag, aside from the putter, finding a wedge is more difficult, because everyone is looking for something that fits them perfectly, and that is hard to find. Usually to find a wedge you have to hit them, you can't just say oh that looks good I will buy it, it has to set on the ground in front of you and many of the off brands, Edel, Renegar, hogan, are hard to get your hands on. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Since we have this thread and many of us must have received the MGS Renegar email lets talk about them for a bit here. I liked what I saw on their site - what's the difference between them and SCORs (Hogan). I appreciated the little schpiel on non-Sarazen based wedges - I could have used that before I put my first SCORs into play - it took me two months to figure that one out for myself. I couldn't imagine going back to a traditional wedge where I have to be concerned about having three wedges with differing bounces. At any rate tell me about Renegar if there is some familiarity out there - I was considering a Hogan 58 (it would fit my set better than the 60 that I currently bag) or going on ebay for a SCOR - I wouldn't mind taking a crack at a Renegar if I could get some feedback here. I think I'll start a thread. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Thanks for participating. You're a really cool guy. The Big Bertha "warbird" Great Big Bertha, and Biggest Big Bertha came out in 1998 (less than 20 years ago). This years BBA815 drivers are pretty much the same in your opinion, right? How about TaylorMades Burner Bubble driver came out in 1996 and was under 200cc's foam filled not even titanium. I owned a Ping Zing 2 driver which came out in 1994 (21 years ago) and it was all steel. possibly their first metal driver since the Ping Zing was wood- the gorgeous blondies. Basically what I'm getting at is that every club has evolved except for wedges. Twenty years ago hybrids weren't even invented. People played 7 and 11 woods. Speaking of fairway woods, today's fairway woods are longer, larger, and more forgiving than the past drivers. Irons have exactly the same thing. The only innovations that they made to wedges are now illegal. Sole grinds for specific turf interaction is absolutely nothing new. You can honestly say that the only thing they've really changed is that you can get them in different colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 At any rate tell me about Renegar if there is some familiarity out there - I was considering a Hogan 58 (it would fit my set better than the 60 that I currently bag) or going on ebay for a SCOR - I wouldn't mind taking a crack at a Renegar if I could get some feedback here. I think I'll start a thread. I'd also like to read some feedback about the Renegars. I'm struggling with my wedges right now (except for my 53* SCOR). I've been carrying the Nike toe-sweep for bunker shots, but ONLY bunker shots... I'm swapping it out for the Miura 60* today, hoping it's more flexible for me. I definitly hit full shots better with it. What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JspartansC Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I love giving some wedge love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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revkev Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Back to Apprenti actually SCOR and I suppose Renegar (if what I'm reading is true) have changed the wedge so that there is no longer a "static" bounce. I do believe the dual bounce will be the next big deal. OEM's aren't keen on it because they've just gotten people into the custom grind game - that's my thought. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Sole grinds and face milling, is what wedges will mostly focus on now that aggressive groves have been outlawed. My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Back to Apprenti actually SCOR and I suppose Renegar (if what I'm reading is true) have changed the wedge so that there is no longer a "static" bounce. I do believe the dual bounce will be the next big deal. OEM's aren't keen on it because they've just gotten people into the custom grind game - that's my thought. I remember awhile back (mid-late 90's maybe) playing some Reid Lockhart wedges that had a "dual bounce sole." Just went to their website and looks like their getting ready to or have already unveiled a "quad bounce sole." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I recall those wedges as well - I'll tell you after playing SCOR for the past three years I'm never going back to a "traditional" wedge for sand play or around the green. I used to have to use three wedges and vary the bounce between the three to provide variety. Now I have all three possibilities in each of my three wedges. Seems like a no brainer to me. But I also have a shallow attack, it could be that other swing types need something different. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I personally reviewed the Carnahan wedges on here and am doing the Hogan review as well. Another out there wedge I'm also playing with? The new PM Grind from Cally. If you liked the Eye2, you'll love these In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hey Rookie, I am hoping your review derails the Hogan Wedges......would like to know what differences there are between the SCZoR and Hogans. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I personally reviewed the Carnahan wedges on here and am doing the Hogan review as well. Another out there wedge I'm also playing with? The new PM Grind from Cally. If you liked the Eye2, you'll love these Was that comment directed at moi? Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfilly20 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Damn, now after reading about Scor I really would like to try them. Wish there was somewhere I could hit them before pulling the trigger and possibly being stuck with something I dont like. R15 White 10.5° Accra FX-260 M4 915F 3W Aldila Rogue Black 110 stiff 915H 4H MRC Diamana D+ Whiteboard 90 HY Stiff 716 T-MB 3 iron True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 Rsi 2's 5-9 - True Temper Dynamic Gold AMT S-300 SM6 46 SM6 52* SM6 56* Mack Daddy 2 PM grind 60* Newport 2.5 Dual Balance ProV1X Game Golf : kfilly20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I remember awhile back (mid-late 90's maybe) playing some Reid Lockhart wedges that had a "dual bounce sole." Just went to their website and looks like their getting ready to or have already unveiled a "quad bounce sole." I ordered one of those a few years ago to try. I got one with a melonite coating on it. Their coating filled the grooves. It was extremely tough. I scraped it out somewhat with a carbide grooving tool. I sent them a message about how ridiculous it is to plug the grooves from the factory with their coating. Not even a response from them. I never bothered to put a shaft in it to even try it. Not a company with enough sense or customer service to be worth spending time or money on even though they look good at first glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apprenti23 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hahaha that's interesting! Gotta love a groove less wedge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Really, there hasnt been much of anything new or exciting going on in wedges and with the groove rules, the performance from one wedge to another really has more to do with feel than with things you can test, compare and prove with science (spin); so really, there isnt much to talk about. Take any golf website and the talk is much more geared towards drivers and putters because thats where the hype is. "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Really, there hasnt been much of anything new or exciting going on in wedges and with the groove rules, the performance from one wedge to another really has more to do with feel than with things you can test, compare and prove with science (spin); so really, there isnt much to talk about. Take any golf website and the talk is much more geared towards drivers and putters because thats where the hype is. Hype and reality are two different things. Turf interaction with wedges is huge because they are the clubs that get involved in the widest variety of shot. How does a wedge flow through all different types of sand, thick turf. Thin lies, bermuda, rye, fescue? It's a big deal for a serious golfer. BTW where do you see Dekker going tomorrow night? That's going to be must see TV at my house. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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