Rekklss Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 OMG. I just did a Internet search on this very phrase. No wonder why so many people cannot play this game. There is no consensus on this most basic subject. Rekklss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I've tried a few different locations I actually noticed that if I place the ball in the middle of my stance I don't hit it fat as much. I also noticed I get a better and more consistent ball flight. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfJunkie302 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It is actually not too basic, as there are several variables, like where your swing bottoms out. It also depends on what type of shot you want to hit. High, low, in the middle, fade (farther back), draw (farther forward)... Plus, golf ball location is different for different clubs (generally farther back for irons, farther forward for the driver). You get the idea. It's not the same for everyone. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2017 M1 460, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 JPX EZ 3 wood Fly-Z 4H MP-60, 3i-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold S5 54° & 58°, True Temper Dynamic Gold California Monterey Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Junkie explained it better than I could have but he is 100% correct. Despite what all the gurus say there is no etched in stone proper way to swing or hit a golf ball Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Golf junkie hit it on the head. Knowing where your swings low point (bottoms out) is crucial in understanding where the best ball position for your swing is. And like Golf junkie again said moving the ball forward and backward will change ball flight, draw/fade, etc. Epic Flash SZ 9o w/ Ventus 6X Rogue 4wd w/ ATMOS Red 7X CBX 20o w/ ATMOS Blue 7S tipped 1" JPX 900 Tour 4i - PW (standard lofts) Rifle SM6 51o, 59o, SM7 55o 2019 ProV1x Custom Ming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Now if we could only get the instructors to adjust their teaching. Both instructors I had would give me the standard answer vs taking into consideration what Junkie said. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Golf junkie hit it on the head. Knowing where your swings low point (bottoms out) is crucial in understanding where the best ball position for your swing is. And like Golf junkie again said moving the ball forward and backward will change ball flight, draw/fade, etc. Now what you said is correct for some folks on the whole. I will agree 100% on what you said about where the club bottoms out and for some folks changing ball position Now this is where we get the variable or at least for me. To hit draws and fades I manipulate the club face from open to closed. Now that is just me and not etched in stone or anything. Now I mostly hit a fade and do not manipulate the club like I used to because my hands do not work like they used to due to me getting older. Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfJunkie302 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Now what you said is correct for some folks on the whole. I will agree 100% on what you said about where the club bottoms out and for some folks changing ball position Now this is where we get the variable or at least for me. To hit draws and fades I manipulate the club face from open to closed. Now that is just me and not etched in stone or anything. Now I mostly hit a fade and do not manipulate the club like I used to because my hands do not work like they used to due to me getting older. You're right. Ball flight has mostly to do with swing mechanics and face position, but I do think positioning the ball differently does have some affect on it. Different strokes for different folks... Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 2017 M1 460, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 JPX EZ 3 wood Fly-Z 4H MP-60, 3i-PW, True Temper Dynamic Gold S5 54° & 58°, True Temper Dynamic Gold California Monterey Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miboy62 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 If I play back from center with my irons, I always hit about 1" behind the ball on full swings. ZX5 MKII LS 8.5 Stealth 2 plus 3 wood Stealth 2 plus 5 wood Stealth 2 plus 19.5 Hybrid ZX5 MKll 5 / AW Dart stiff MG3 black 52 9b 58 12b 7.5 Phantom 34” Z Star Diamond 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 If I play back from center with my irons, I always hit about 1" behind the ball on full swings. That just means one really simple thing and read closely--- Your swing is too steep for that ball position in other words you bottom out earlier than others do- No problem since obviously you know the proper ball position for YOUR swing Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigtazzGolf Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'll refer to Ben for these answers. Always good to fall back on this picture for me. BigTazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Grip n Rip it Chicks dig the LONG ball In my staff bag King F7+ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 60 - Graphite Tour X-Stiff CBX 13.5 3 Wood Atomic Irons 4-AW (reviewing) CG16 Satin 52* 588 RTX 2.0 56* and 60* Sentio Sierra 101-M Putter Proud tester of the Tommy Armour ATOMIC Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'll refer to Ben for these answers. Always good to fall back on this picture for me. Image1511223169.617759.jpg BigTazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy He played everything off his left heel and just moved his right foot back to adjust for each club. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigtazzGolf Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 He played everything off his left heel and just moved his right foot back to adjust for each club. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Yup very simple. Notice how his right foot stays lil further back off his alignment. Eliminates the fade. Or it does for me lol BigTazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Grip n Rip it Chicks dig the LONG ball In my staff bag King F7+ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 60 - Graphite Tour X-Stiff CBX 13.5 3 Wood Atomic Irons 4-AW (reviewing) CG16 Satin 52* 588 RTX 2.0 56* and 60* Sentio Sierra 101-M Putter Proud tester of the Tommy Armour ATOMIC Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I tried the Hogan placement I cannot place the ball there I hit too far behind no matter how much work I do and practice I cannot do that. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I tried the Hogan placement I cannot place the ball there I hit too far behind no matter how much work I do and practice I cannot do that. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Just curious as to your weight distribution when setting up for your shorter irons. Are you hitting behind the ball on the shorter clubs or longer clubs? Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommc23 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Just curious as to your weight distribution when setting up for your shorter irons. Are you hitting behind the ball on the shorter clubs or longer clubs?I would hit behind with every club. If I put the ball dead center of my stance I don't hit it fat. No matter how much I try to think 60/40 I am a 50/50 stance. Played the other day and put the ball dead center, which is where I strike it best, and had my best iron round in a while. Sent from my SM-G950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 It is actually not too basic, as there are several variables, like where your swing bottoms out. It also depends on what type of shot you want to hit. High, low, in the middle, fade (farther back), draw (farther forward)... Plus, golf ball location is different for different clubs (generally farther back for irons, farther forward for the driver). You get the idea. It's not the same for everyone. Sent from my SM-T580 using MyGolfSpy mobile app It's so not the same for everyone that I play the ball back for draw and up for fade. I've read instruction where it says to move the ball position back through the bag, others where it says keep it the same. Ball position is huge but clearly it varies based on swing type and other factors. Consult your teacher and or individual trial and error as results may vary! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I'll refer to Ben for these answers. Always good to fall back on this picture for me. Image1511223169.617759.jpg BigTazz Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Concept is really good, but I tend to hook the ball so this doesn't work in my favour Sent from my E6853 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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