Kenny B Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 As I posted on the "How'd you play?" thread, my wife and I played with another couple on a course that we only play a few times a year. I played great for me on that course. The guy is nice and we play a lot together, mostly on my 9-hole executive course that I like to practice on. He always complains about the conditions of that course and says that he always plays better on nicer courses. Well, yesterday he had a day that looked like most any other time I play with him. Not good. He's a decent player; good chipper and putter, but when he hits one bad shot then another, things start to get ugly. He gets so negative about his game, slams clubs, and I thought once he was going to snap his putter. His wife actually gets upset with him, but even that doesn't seem to quiet him down. The problem is that it usually affects both my wife and I and our game suffers. Yesterday it affected my wife game; she shot her worst round in 10 years. I, however, just completely ignored him and shot +8 with a double, my best round in quite awhile. My playing well also seemed to make things worse for him when he hit a bad shot. I wasn't the most pleasant playing partner because I said very little all day (usually we chat all during the round). I didn't even say "Nice shot" when he had one, because I know that he say "blind squirrel". So, how do you guys deal with a playing partner's bad attitude? I suppose that it could be different if it is a friend or someone that you just joined up with. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 If it's a friend, I give them crap just like they would me. If it's someone I was paired up with, I'll leave the course or tell them to play ahead and I'll stick behind. With friends we're out to have a good time and good natures ribbing is part of it. But we've known each other a long time and know where the line is when not to take it too far. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severtheties Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Agreed on the friendship part. If this is someone I'm friends with I will usually just say something about noticing them not playing well and not enjoying and ask if there's anything I can do to help. Maybe something they're working on that I can keep and eye on or offer up some advice. If it's someone I don't know ill let them play ahead. My dad used to have a really bad temper on the course. So bad that I finally looked at him and told him that if he continues that I would play with him any longer. My mom did the same thing to him. That changed him pretty quickly. He get frustrated but can usually reel it in and continue having a good time. Driver - Tour Edge Exotics XCG 7 Beta w/ Paderson shaft 44" Fairway Metal - Vapor Fly 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 65F 43" Irons - SLDR 4i-pw w/ KBS Tour C-Taper 90S Wedges - 54* and 58* Digger grind Putter - 2015 GoLo 3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I just ignore it the best I can. I'm pretty easy going so it doesn't get to me too much. I have noticed that my play has declined if someone is acting overly negative or obnoxious. Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 There are times when he shows up and I can tell that he is going to play lousy before he hits the first tee shot. "Well, I wonder where this shot's going today?" I know it's not going to hit the fairway, because he will either pull it or hit a weak slice. I don't say anything, because he thinks he knows everything there is to know about golf. Then I hit one down the middle. I probably wouldn't play much with him except our wives are good friends. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I probably wouldn't play much with him except our wives are good friends. Well, if he always acts like this when he gets frustrated, you'll probably get along better with her next husband What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I would find a new playing partner. Life is too short to constantly put up with the Bu$&@h#% of others who do not care. We have one guy that only drinks on Saturday when he plays. He drinks way too much, then becomes a real nuisance. Last week he made some foolish accusations after we penalized a player in our tournament. He wanted the other player disqualified. Well, both of them have withdrawn from our Saturday Game. As much as I enjoy his company (before he gets drunk) I must say our game will be better off. Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseballfrk8998 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 When I play with guys like this I usually just agree with them when they go on a rant about their game. There's one guy in particular that I play with that is this way. He'll hit a shot that isn't bad, but not as great as he wants. I'll tell him "nice shot" and he'll be like no it wasn't. It sucked. I used to just let it go and just keep complimenting him when he did hit a good shot.. But it got tiring listening to him complain. Now when he hits a bad shot and complains, I just agree with him. He hits a shot and is like "that was terrible" and I just agree and say something like "yeah it was, wtf were you thinking?" Usually doesn't take him long to get the hint. It's pretty comical though. Sometimes being a smart a** can be beneficial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I have one friend who does this when he plays poorly. He wasn't playing great today and I generally just let it go. Today he had the odasity to tell me that I was the luckiest player he had scene when I played a shot submerged in water onto the 15th green like bill Haas did a few year's ago. I asked him if he was feeling "lucky" enough to replicate it. Didn't hear a bad word from him the rest of the round. Generally I just ignore it until it bothers the rest of the group. Then I say something about him needing to cheer up. Edit: This is the 3rd time he has scene me do this. He knows better than to call It lucky. Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 I have one friend who does this when he plays poorly. He wasn't playing great today and I generally just let it go. Today he had the odasity to tell me that I was the luckiest player he had scene when I played a shot submerged in water onto the 15th green like bill Haas did a few year's ago. I asked him if he was feeling "lucky" enough to replicate it. Didn't hear a bad word from him the rest of the round. Generally I just ignore it until it bothers the rest of the group. Then I say something about him needing to cheer up. Edit: This is the 3rd time he has scene me do this. He knows better than to call It lucky. Sounds unlucky to me. What are you doing in the water? “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I just ignore it the best I can. I'm pretty easy going so it doesn't get to me too much. I have noticed that my play has declined if someone is acting overly negative or obnoxious. I can't imagine anyone having a bad attitude while playing with you. I have two really close friends. The one was so bad that it was ridiculous. He is such a good friend that I'd play with him but it was never fun. It was so bad that a couple of our mutual friends called me and asked me to have a talk with him. I'd like to say that I did but before I could something happened. He's totally changed and now is delightful to play with. Rookie may remember him from elsewhere. He's the on who threw my Adams driver and chipped the paint. You'd never know it playing with him now. My other friend is something else as well. He's not a very good player so it's really pretty comical. With him that's how I handle it, I just laugh at him. Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 When I play with guys like this I usually just agree with them when they go on a rant about their game. There's one guy in particular that I play with that is this way. He'll hit a shot that isn't bad, but not as great as he wants. I'll tell him "nice shot" and he'll be like no it wasn't. It sucked. I used to just let it go and just keep complimenting him when he did hit a good shot.. But it got tiring listening to him complain. Now when he hits a bad shot and complains, I just agree with him. He hits a shot and is like "that was terrible" and I just agree and say something like "yeah it was, wtf were you thinking?" Usually doesn't take him long to get the hint. It's pretty comical though. Sometimes being a smart a** can be beneficial! Other than his attitude when playing poorly, I like the guy. I do pretty much the same thing when we are just out having fun; I compliment his good shots hoping that maybe he will snap out of it. That might work if he hits a few in a row. He fancys himself to be a really good putter and he is pretty good, but if his putting is off, wow! Yesterday it was off, and we were playing a course that I have never played that well. I really wanted to shoot a good score. So I just left him alone and didn't say a word the entire round. I focused on my shot at hand. Granted, I had to do a lot of focusing because the driver wasn't working all that well. Some decent approaches from long range and a bunch of good up and downs saved my round. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I can't imagine anyone having a bad attitude while playing with you. I have two really close friends. The one was so bad that it was ridiculous. He is such a good friend that I'd play with him but it was never fun. It was so bad that a couple of our mutual friends called me and asked me to have a talk with him. I'd like to say that I did but before I could something happened. He's totally changed and now is delightful to play with. Rookie may remember him from elsewhere. He's the on who threw my Adams driver and chipped the paint. You'd never know it playing with him now. My other friend is something else as well. He's not a very good player so it's really pretty comical. With him that's how I handle it, I just laugh at him. Not sure who that reference is to... But Rev's buddies were definitrely an eclectic group when I was in Tampa and played last with he, Jax and Foz. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I was that guy this Saturday - by about the 14th hole the game was so far gone it wasn't funny, and I could tell I was being a jackass and probably pissing off my playing partners. That was the time I decided to pick up if the hole got ugly and watch the other guys play -- worked out well because there was a hell of a match going on between a scratch golfer and a 12 handicap. The 12 held on to win -- $10 from each of us. It was fun to watch and root for the underdog - and he didn't crack under the pressure!! Have a buddy who is always that guy - it takes one bad shot to set him off and things spiral from there, and no amount of encouragement will bring him out of it. What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey in The Woods Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 i have been that guy many times. My wife also is quick to point out that I play golf to have fun; So what the hell is the problem, because I am not having fun now. What I have started doing when I am having one of THOSE rounds, is simply stop keeping score. don't think about the strokes. Just concentrate on the next shot. Golf would be a PERFECT sport/hobby/pastime if we simply didn't have to keep score. Driver: Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK 70g Stiff Fairway Wood: Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK 60g StiffHybrids: Nike Covert 2.0 Tour KK Stiff Irons: R-11s KBS Stiff. Wedges: Cleveland 588 Rotax 56* Some no name 60* I got at Goodwill for $5 Putter:: MGS Ketsch Special Edition Ball: :e7, normally. If not, whatever I found while looking for mine in the Tall GrassBag :Birdies for the Brave Org.14 Desert Camo Shoes : Oakley Cipher 2 Addidas Adizero One Wd Nike Lunar Control 6 other pair "just in case" Founder: Texas BBQ Curtain (according to Jdiddyesquire) Favorite #TOURSAUCE Move: signing a ball and tossing it to a non existent fan as I walk back to cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Sounds unlucky to me. What are you doing in the water? Exactly! Lol Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 i have been that guy many times. My wife also is quick to point out that I play golf to have fun; So what the hell is the problem, because I am not having fun now. What I have started doing when I am having one of THOSE rounds, is simply stop keeping score. don't think about the strokes. Just concentrate on the next shot. Golf would be a PERFECT sport/hobby/pastime if we simply didn't have to keep score. Actually, in the case of the guy I was playing with, we usually don't keep score. My wife and I play with them just to catch up on what's happening. It's more social than a typical golf round. He is the same whether it is social or competitive. Last year we played in a scramble and that will be the last time I will do that! It really affects my game too. As for being that guy... I probably was (although I never throw a club). My wife used to call me Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh! I took jmiller's advice last year and as my attitude improved, so did my score. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxbeachpackerfan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm lucky--our Tuesday/ Friday group and the somewhat associated weekend group have varied but very tolerable personalities. We've not had an issue requiring intervention in years. Knock on wood! Nonchalant putts count the same as chalant putts.In my Ogio Ozone XX Cart Stand Bag:Ping G400 10.5 Deg Driver, stock Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz 19 Deg 5 Wood, stock Matrix Osik Stiff shaftTM Rocketballz Stage 2 21 Deg Tour 4 Hybrid, Rocketfuel 80h Stiff shaft Callaway Apex CF 16 Irons, 4-P, Stiff Shafts Scor 48 and 55 degree wedges. Renegar 60 Deg Steel Shaft Lob WedgeTM Ghost Spider Si 38" Counterbalanced Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp0rtsfan86 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I've been that person a few times, but played with a lot of other people who were much worse. My two best golf buddies both admitted to me that our vegas trip wore them down and by the end, they were done with golf for awhile. It took me 48 hours to be back on a course the day my flight left. My buddy generally will get mad and start missing putts, but doesn't get too out of control that he can't laugh at himself... or me. Just one of those, try to let it go or make a joke out of it. Driver: Epic Flash 12 Degree Wood: GBB 3 Wood Hybrid: Razr 4 hybriid stiff stock shaft. Irons: X2 Hot 4 iron (pro version) 5 iron - Gap Wedge (non pro version). KBS 120g Shaft stiff cut 1/2 inch bent 1°upright Wedges: 52° 56° and 60°. All grips are Golf pride grips midsized Putter (lefty): Odyssey Metal-X #8 34", stock shaft bent 2° Superstroke grip Golf Balls: 2018-9 Pro-V1x and Prov1s Shoes: Dryjoy tours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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