jkittlesen Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2015/07/tiger-woods-is-totally-complet.html Rouge Draw 13.5 Lite Flex 913H 24 degree Diamana Lite Flex Idea Pro a12 20 degree Aldila VS Proto Regular Flex MP 100 4 - PW Stiff DGS 300 Mack Daddy 2 TG 52/10, RG 56/10 and TG 60/10 2014 Select Newport 2 33 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 One thing no one mentions yet is exactly what ice said is wrong with Tiger? He had major back surgery, in which they did spinal cord work and nerve work. That, IMO, is the largest contributor to his playing woes. Not being embarrassed, not his mental game. No, he had a major surgery on a core part of the body that's integral to the golf swing In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizuno_lover Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Wow pretty much has him done and dusted doesn't it. A very sad thing when articles like that are written about you. My Bag Driver: G25 Stiff shaft3 Wood: JPX 850 16 degree. Fujikara Orichi 65 gram stiff shaftHybrids: 3 & 4 JPX 850 Fujikara Orichi 65 gram regular shaftsIrons: MP- H5 3 - 6 iron dynamic gold XP 115 gram stiff soft steppedIrons: MP 54 4 - PW dynamic gold S300Wedges: MP T4 52 degree, 56 degree 10 degree bounce, 60 degree 10 degree bounce.Putter: ZB S Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Honorary member Texas BBQ Curtin Circa 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireinthehole Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Wow pretty much has him done and dusted doesn't it. A very sad thing when articles like that are written about you. That's what I thought exactly! My Mixed-Bag: Driver: Mavrik Sub zero, ventus black 7x Fairway: Still looking! Irons: MP-18 MB 4-PW Wedges: Miura K Grinds Putter: Evnroll 1.2 blade Ball: Z star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superduper Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I think Tiger should retire now and return to the game 2 years from now. Just like what Michael Jordan did in the 90s..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 It may be true, but this is cheap journalism isn't it. Clearly little else to write about..... Need one of the young players to deflect interest with some booze, drugs, gambling shenanigans. Rest in peace long sticks - I'll remember you TM Burner Superfast 2.0 TP Regular TM RBZ Stage 2 Fairway 14.5 stiff Adams Blue Hybrid No. 3 stiff Adams Super xtdHybrid 21.5 Stiff Ping G30 4 and 5 Iron - Regular CFS Shaft Ping i25 6 - PW Regular CFS Shaft TM Y Groove Gap Wedge Cleveland CG10 Sand Wedge PingTR Piper Putter, adjustable shaft, SuperStroke Fatso Titleist StaDry Cart Bag Motocaddy S3 Pro Trolley Foot Joy City, Adidas Boost Boa and Adidas Superstar shoes Pro V1x in the summer, Titleist Velocity in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 What I don't get is why do people feel the need to be downright mean-spirited and nasty like that because he can't play like he used to. No, he won't ever get back to what he was in his prime. So what? That's life. Injuries will take anyone out of their prime earlier than if they had none. Granted, he lost the respect of people when he behaved as he did. He has to live with that and he'll never be able to undo that. But writing a venomous, mean article like that because he's not playing well anymore is childish, disrespectful, unnecessary, and unprofessional. Golf Digest should be ashamed for publishing tabloid trash like that. Maybe an article should be written about what Tiger's done for the sport compared to that author. What has he done that warrants him being on such a high horse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2015/07/tiger-woods-is-totally-complet.html I guess we will know for sure in 10-15 years won't we? Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 All of this "Tiger is done!" stuff makes me laugh. Obviously he is having problems. Obviously his game isn't close to what it once was.... and it never will be again, but I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Tiger in the winner's circle. The man is one of the greatest players to ever tee up a golf ball... bar none. I have a little different take on what his problem is, injuries not withstanding. Everything Rookie said, I agree with. The other thing I see happening is age and his changing body. I know a lot of you older guys on here know exactly what I'm talking about. No matter how bad you want to do what you used to do, your body just says no! You "think" you can go on as you always did....... but you can't. I'm learning that lesson in a very real way this year. Tiger hasn't come to terms with it, yet. He will... and he will figure out how to win again. Then.... all the nay sayers and haters will have to decide how they like their Crow prepared...lol. Maybe I'm just not seeing the forest for the trees, but I know damn well Tiger hasn't forgotten how to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Wow pretty much has him done and dusted doesn't it. A very sad thing when articles like that are written about you. Apparently you didnt see the article that ESPN wrote during the U.S. Open that said Tiger looked like a, "muni course hacker". LOL "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I still think his problems are 90% mental. Its not that Tiger cant swing a golf club. If you look at him on the driving range, he looks great. Then he gets out on the course and totally falls apart. Thats a mental game problem, not a swing problem or a physical problem. Tiger has some kind of a mental block that is getting in his way. When I think about Tiger, I always hear the line that Will Smith had in the movie, "The Legend Of Bagger Vance". It goes something like, "that man you was, you wont never be again." The Tiger that we knew, the one who dominated golf and had a chance to be the GOAT, hes gone and hes not coming back. I believe that and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if Tiger gets it back together. "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I agree somewhat with his mental issues at the moment. Surgery aside, his short game and putting compared to his prime is pretty woeful at the moment - something you can't really directly attribute to injury. That being said, it's still a pretty tall order to gain the kind of form that saw him rise to the greatest player of his generation. I tend to think that over the years we have been spoilt with his achievements and now that his form has dipped (or rather plummeted) people are still under the illusion that his year 2000 form is halfway back to returning. It isn't. And that is the plain truth. With that in mind, I'd rather remember the Tiger of old and applaud his achievements, but at the same time realise that golf has come a long way since 1997 and there are some new kids on the block who deserve just as much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Y'all know my take on Tiger. Yes, he needs to take his ball striking to the course, but playing in only 10 tournaments during the year is not getting it done. He needs to play every week. He can't use the excuse that it's too tiring because he will like not make many cuts. But until he gets his head out of his ass, that's what's going to happen. OK, so he's nearly 40. That's not the end of your career. Lots of really good players are still competing after 40; too many to list. He can't afford to only play in the big events anymore. He needs playing time. Anywhere! If he doesn't start playing the smaller events too, he deserves to be done. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizuno_lover Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 My take on where Tiger is at is that he is still lost in the shame associated with his infidelity and the fall out it caused and all of that overflowing into his game and psyche. We are never very forgiving when our heroes betray what we think they are or think they should be. I think he still carries the shame that he felt at the time and I couldn't believe the press conference he did at the Masters not long after it all hit the world press. To have that bone head from the Masters committee treating him like an errant school boy in front of the worlds cameras was a big mistake in my view. So much of how we view ourselves is tied up in our masculinity and sexual attractiveness to the world at large and to have such an intimate part of your life paraded for all to comment on, make fun of, criticise and generally ridicule would load anyone up with enough shame to last two lifetimes. By doing that press conference he invited everyone in to a place that only those closest to us should be allowed to venture into. Not to mention the fact that it bought his integrity as a golfer into question. If he'll cheat on his wife maybe he'll cheat on the course too. He could have done something similar in a press release instead of throwing himself on the cross of public opinion where the vast majority of the people throwing the stones were no saints themselves. There's way more going on with Tiger than meets the eye. That's how I see it. Maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but he sure needs to do some self forgiving if you ask me because he's never going to be out of the public eye. And that is going to follow him to his grave. As far as his injuries go and having had several spinal surgeries myself I think he needs to harden the f*** up and work through it. He'll never probably be pain free so suck it up and get on with it and find a way of swinging that minimalizes it. As I said just my opinion and there are no expectations that anyone agrees with it, but I am bloody tired of hearing about Tiger for all the wrong reasons. And who ever said shame on Golf Digest for publishing the story you were dead right! My Bag Driver: G25 Stiff shaft3 Wood: JPX 850 16 degree. Fujikara Orichi 65 gram stiff shaftHybrids: 3 & 4 JPX 850 Fujikara Orichi 65 gram regular shaftsIrons: MP- H5 3 - 6 iron dynamic gold XP 115 gram stiff soft steppedIrons: MP 54 4 - PW dynamic gold S300Wedges: MP T4 52 degree, 56 degree 10 degree bounce, 60 degree 10 degree bounce.Putter: ZB S Evil prospers when good men do nothing. Honorary member Texas BBQ Curtin Circa 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tiger's back injury is much different than an amateur's back injury. He's a world class athlete that could tell you exactly where he hit the ball on the face and exactly where it would land. His core is integral to his game due to the violence of his swing. Comparing what his injury did to him vs an amateur is like comparing bananas and oranges In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tiger's back injury is much different than an amateur's back injury. He's a world class athlete that could tell you exactly where he hit the ball on the face and exactly where it would land. His core is integral to his game due to the violence of his swing. Comparing what his injury did to him vs an amateur is like comparing bananas and oranges That's true Rookie, but ultimately he has to face the fact that a violent swing is no longer an option for him. He's still enough of an athlete, and certainly has the "golf smarts" and experience to be competitive, but KennyB's right, he's GOT to play more tournaments if he's ever going to win again. He can't just "turn it on" for Majors. At one time, he could do that, but now is not that time. What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 OK, Tiger has had a back injury. A lot of pros have had back injuries; they work through it. Freddie has been doing that for years. From the looks of Tiger's swing the back is not the issue. He can still move it out there, but he has been making the same misses for years. If he can get his short game back (which I think he can only do by playing a lot), then that confidence will help his long game. He still needs to start swinging like a 40-year old and not like a 20-year old though. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tiger's back injury is much different than an amateur's back injury. He's a world class athlete that could tell you exactly where he hit the ball on the face and exactly where it would land. His core is integral to his game due to the violence of his swing. Comparing what his injury did to him vs an amateur is like comparing bananas and oranges Personally, I don't buy that excuse. As I mentioned earlier, swing issues and injuries aside, it doesn't take a world-class athlete to posses a decent short game and putting stroke. Tiger has neither of these at the moment. Maybe it's a result of poor play from the tee and (perish the thought) getting a little frustrated and not giving the remaining par attempt the fullest attention? Who knows? What I do know is the whole Tiger machine is far from it's past best, but the short game and putting aspect is not really a reasonable excuse for mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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