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My only suggestion is one that works for everyone every time. It's not in a book, seen on TV, or the web. Doesn't require any special shopping or meal plan subscriptions. You can eat any food you like

I'm in. I'll avoid shirtless posts, but I assume bottomless are still ok.

Alrighty! These quests always work better when there's a group and there's a little friendly competition involved. I know I don't want to be the guy who actually gains weight during this challenge...

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... I just wanted to add that my 28 yr old son is 6'3" and was a 1st team All Conference DE in college, Yes the AC is unnecessary bragging  but his playing weight was 255. He had to eat a TON of food to maintain that weight because he was burning it up with practice, games and working out. He still works out almost as hard as when he played so that certainly helps but of course he is not running/sprinting like he did for his entire life before football ended. He still eats a lot of food but all of it organic, nutritious food and he has finally decided he is satisfied with his weight at 220. He really wanted to stay around 230-235 and tried his best the last 4 years but eating the right foods, his body found it's ideal weight at 220-225 since he no longer had to eat more than what filled him up, especially eating between meals, something he hated doing to maintain weight when he played. So there is hope! 



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Yesterday I went to return a pair of jeans my wife bought me for sticking to my diet and exercise.  I have been a comfortable 38 waist since 2009 and yesterday was the first time that I fit in a size 36.  That felt awesome.

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I haven't posted in this thread before, but you all are awesome. It's not easy to make a decision to change your lifestyle, lose weight, and keep it off. Hats off to everyone in here.

The thread is also a gentle reminder to myself to keep at it. Without going into lengthy details, I was very overweight as a child and teenager. The highest I remember the scale being was 252 pounds at 14 years old, and I know it got worse before it got better. I lost some weight so that I could play baseball in high school. My playing weight was somewhere around 220 pounds, and one thing I'll always wonder is how much better I would have been without the extra weight. I'm not extraordinarily tall (6'0" on a good day), so despite me being active I was definitely heavy.

I miraculously stayed the same when I went off to college, and for a little bit afterwards, but I was always bouncing between unsustainable diets to keep the pounds off. Thankfully, in the fall of 2012 my then-fiance and I decided to try the ketogenic diet and we've been at it ever since. I went from 210-220 pounds to 170 pounds in about three months. 

I've had my ups and downs over the years, but rekindling my golfing hobby has given me the extra oomph lately, and I'm very happy to be around 160 pounds with considerably more muscle mass than I've had in the past. 

Not suggesting that everyone hop onto keto because I'm a believer in finding what is sustainable for you and not anyone else. But I did want to share my story in case it helps anyone out there.

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... Please forgive my conspiracy theory, but until roughly 70 years ago food was grown, butchered or produced for its nutritional value for thousands of years because food is necessary to sustain life. "Fast food" and convenience packaged "food" started out with more nutritional value than today, but still less than real food. They slowly started adding more sugar, specifically high fructose sugar and other chemicals to trick your taste buds, and it accomplished 2 things. People became addicted to sugar and most importantly when you are not getting the necessary nutrients from your "food" you will want more and more "food". Most fast food establishments wash their lettuce in sugar so it tastes better to those used to high fructose corn syrup. For those of us old enough, we have the excuse that the nutritional value of American food slid away very slowly and we were ignorant of that process.But to be honest, eating a local burger where the beef came straight from a local farm, never frozen with lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions, etc also from a local farm that didn't use pesticides was so much better and we knew it. But it cost $1.25 and the first fast food burgers cost 19 cents. It was frozen, thin, lacking in taste and had only a pickle with mustard and ketchup. I think that was the beginning of the lie that food can be inexpensive. 

... So again, please excuse this elementary explanation that many of you may or may not already know. The main point I want to convey is the human body is an amazing mechanism and if you eat real food, you will feel full and that feeling will last longer and you will find that the gnawing hunger you used to feel all the time will disappear. Yes I admit it is easy to write that but MUUUUUUCH harder to incorporate it into your life unless you truly embrace a change. Like most everyone else, I ate tons of bad food and I will use this as an illustration. I loved cheese balls and bought these huge tubs. One "serving" was a joke of course and I ate 10+ servings at a time. Instead of abating my hunger, it just made me hungrier. Of course this is because my body thinks if I am eating, it is getting some food but instead it gets a bunch of chemicals and sugar with little to no nutritional value. Now it is in "lets get some nutrients and get the fuel it needs to operate at maximum efficiency" but received little to no nutrients so after a half hour or so I was even hungrier than before I started eating the cheese balls. The more junk food with little traditional value you eat, the hungrier you get. And to revisit the conspiracy theory, what company selling junk food would not love that? If it gives you diabetes or indigestion or a myriad of other problems, what Pharma company doesn't love that?  

... For me it was an easy transition because I was literally sick of digestive problems. That is not to say organic nutritional food instantly tasted better, far from it. The mental transition took time and patience and I don't even remember how long to took before something as simple as some romaine, cucumbers, black olives, avocado and tuna with an olive oil/lemon dressing, salt/peepr tasted much more delicious than a Big Mac. And it took even longer before a Big Mac actually tasted bad. 

... I hope it does not seem like I am preaching or blaming anyone for their life choices. But I will say that if you fully embrace a change in your lifestyle when it comes to eating, the results can be very surprising. It has been 10 years since I have eaten fast food and just tasting something I used to absolutely love, I have to spit it out because my palate is not used to chemicals and high fructose sugar and it tastes awful. And conversely something like Kale that I would have spit out back when I was eating very poorly is delicious when prepared properly. I give full credit to my wife and son for turning my diet around. A massaged Kale salad that breaks down the leaves, combined with some lemon juice, cranberries, pine nuts and a little raw honey is really delicious. And the best part is once you eat that Kale salad, with a huge bone in pork chop, 1/2 chicken, steak, 1/2 lb burger and some quinoa/sweet potato that is all organic (which really only means without chemicals that confuse the body) you feel full and it lasts a long time because you have given the body the nutrients it wants and needs. You no longer have any cravings and losing weight is a natural by product of eating healthy along with enough exercise. 

...  It is up to you to do what is best for your personal health and we all have different priorities or ,life long journeys. Some are ready for a change, many are not. So to all of you struggling with weight and diet, I wish you the best of luck in your struggles! 👍

Spot on. I've dramatically reduced sugar in my diet purely for health reasons (don't need to lose weight). In my journey to reduce sugar which is almost as bad a journey as giving up smoking,  I started looking at labels and was amazed how much sugar there is in everything even bread.  When I see tv commercials for restaurants like Denny's or IHOP some of those breakfast specials they're offering are well in excess of 2000 calories then factor in the bad stuff like extra maple syrup (sugar) and nitrites in the bacon/sausages. it's no wonder we have a weight problem in the US  I still don't eat as healthy as my wife but I'm way better than I use to be.  

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Today is the 2 year anniversary of my entering on this fitness journey.  I weighed in at 209.4 - it was the first Sunday of Lent - for those who don't know the purpose of giving stuff up or taking things on for Lent is to make permanent life changes - Rather than going on a 40 day program I resolved to do this for the rest of my life.  My first goal was given to me by my program and it was 15 lbs. in three months.  I hit that one in 10 weeks.  The next was one that I set myself - 180 (what I weighed when I played my best golf from 40-55).  I got there in mid summer and then set 168, my college weight as a goal.  I got to that mark around my birthday day - October 7 and other than a brief period from Christmas through the first week of January I've stayed below it ever since. 

Weighed in at 167.3 this morning - I would like to get back to 165 as they provides a little safety net - but I've also been doing strength training and 166-168 seems to be where I'm comfortable while doing that.

Regardless this has been a very positive change for me in many ways.  It's made me realize that it is possible to accomplish a lot of things if only I set my mind to it and focus.

Thanks for the support of this group and best wishes to everyone else on their journey!

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Just a few things to keep in mind on your weight loss journey...

  • A healthy weight loss is 1-2lb/week. That's 4-8lbs a month. Don't get discouraged if the weight doesn't drop immediately. Sometimes it stair-steps down. Sometimes it plateaus. Remember, weight loss is more mental than physical. 
  • Eat your damn fruits and vegetables. I don't care how, fresh, frozen or canned, it's all good. The nutrition difference of fruits and vegetables is negligible between fresh, frozen, organic, canned, etc. Nothing wrong with eating canned green beans vs fresh. Nothing wrong eating a $.25 apple vs a $1.25 organic apple. Side note, frozen berries are usually cheaper than fresh. All have the same nutritional density. 
  • Though it might be tough at times, get moving. Go on a short walk, do some push-ups during a commercial break, climb some stairs...whatever you need to do, get moving. 
  • Get involved with a community of folks who share the same task. Either an online forum, a group of friends/family/co-worker/strangers, etc. regardless it's best to be in a community to share the struggles and successes with. 
  • The ingredient is never the poison, the dose is. Sugar doesn't kill you. Sugar is mass quantities can. Just like water in mass quantities can. Just like oxygen in mass quantities can. 
  • Food doesn't have morals. There are no 'good' foods or 'bad' foods. There's just food. Some food is more nutritious and satiating than others but there's no good vs bad. Same with 'real' or 'clean' food. Think of food more on a processed scale. Eat more of the minimally processed foods than the heavily processed foods. Think of side dishes...like carbs...a bowl of brown rice is more satiating and more nutritionally dense than white flour pasta, but a sweet potato is more satiating and more nutritionally dense than the brown rice. 
  • Terms like 'super food' or 'organic' meat is all derived from the food marketing industry, not science. Spinach is just as healthy as a super food like kale and there's no such thing as an organic chicken...just...chicken. Chemicals will not kill you in proper doses. In fact, everything is a chemical. Organic is just more expensive, not nutritionally superior. GMOs are safe. All livestock are raised on grass...some just finished on grains versus grass. Grass fed beef has slightly more Omega 3's than regular beef, but it's nothing to throw your money at if you don't want to. If you need Omega 3s, eat more salmon. 
  • We live in a day in age where science has us living longer than ever. Why deny science now? 
  • If things become a struggle, switch it up. Keto not working for you? Try intermittent fasting. IF not working? Try intuitive eating. There's no magic bullet but changing the landscape could reveal better results for your particular body type. 

Here's some apps to help with the journey:

MyFitnessPal, Noom, RP Diet

Here's some informative accounts to follow on social media:

BioLayne (PhD Nutrition Science), FoodScienceBabe (Chemical Engineer/Food Scientist), DrNadolsky (Obesity/Lipid Specialist Physician), Marie Spano (Sports Nutrition Expert)

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... I don't have an agenda. I don't work in the food industry, not does anyone in my family or any of my friends. I am just an advocate of health. As with everything in life, education is your friend. Watch the short previews below and make up your own mind if you want to know more. I highly recommend these documentaries that are EYE OPENING and can change your lives. It certainly did ours. 
 

 

 

 

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On 2/2/2020 at 9:41 AM, Kor.A.Door said:

I have not kept up with this thread, Not avoiding it, just not looking at it. I know I need to lose weight, but I am really struggling with it. Last year at this time we got a gym membership and we went pretty steady for a few months, and I never lost any weight maybe a couple pounds, and I could never figure out how to get the weight to come off. I stopped going, and here I am at the beginning of the next year trying to figure out the same thing. On paper it’s easy, stop eating so much, and stop eating bad foods. In reality it is extremely difficult. I just don’t think I Can mentally win this challenge. I can’t find my “why” in losing weight. It’s just a terrible struggle. I start out trying to eat healthier, and walking and doing some working out, but I just can’t seem to stick to it for any length of time. I just don’t know how to start, I just can’t seem to find the formula that works for me. Frustrating. I am 6’4” and am around 265lbs and would like to lose about 30-35 lbs to get to a good weight. 

I have been giving this some thought. Finding the motivation, the ‘“why” in losing weight’ as you put it poses a difficult challenge. So...the information regarding the obvious benefits of being a healthy weight you can find on this forum and elsewhere isn’t sufficient to keep you at it. I suspect the issue isn’t motivation but the difficulty we encounter when we try to change the habits of a lifetime. Earlier in this thread I was referred to a book titled “Atomic Habits”. I have read it and recommend it. It helps you determine what you have to do to get out of your own way, which sounds like it might be underlying your struggle. If not, you are going to have to figure out what the issue is.

For inspiration and motivation I also recommend “Younger Next Year”. This helped me get through the de-motivating issues I first encountered 7 years and 106 pounds ago. It is written by an older guy and his doctor writing alternate chapters and there are parts that are quite witty.

Finally, I am concerned that being discouraged is negatively impacting your determination to get to the cause of your challenge. Kobe Bryant observed if you are afraid you’re going to fail, you will probably fail. Henry Ford said “Whether you say you can or whether you say you can’t, you’re always right.” And I say: if I am going to be right anyway, than I say I can. 

Try giving those books a look, because doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result you know does not work. 

Good luck.

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... Good stuff Pug! Let me add one more thing. We have all heard people say "I don't wanna know how they make the sausage!" Of course ignorance is bliss unless it causes you problems. We get away with sooooo much when we are young but it either comes back to bite you later or causes lifelong problems for many. So any of you struggling with unhealthy food choices, I encourage you to watch the documentaries I posted above. For man y oof you, it will change the way you look at what you eat. It may be mentally painful initially, but in the end you will be grateful for your education. And sorry but yea, that means you probably won't be eating that sausage anymore unless you know your farmer.  

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I am dieting, taking long walks, and lifting weights to try to lower my A1C and lose some weight.

I won't say that it's making me feel suicidal, but only because that's not a pleasant thing to say!☹️

 

 

 

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I have been doing all my work outside of a gym these days as I just hate going to a gym. I started lifting at 12 and was a big gym guy into my mid 30’s. Well to keep with this healthy lifestyle crap I went to a gym today and worked out. Hated every second but still did it.


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6 hours ago, Pug said:

I have been giving this some thought. Finding the motivation, the ‘“why” in losing weight’ as you put it poses a difficult challenge. So...the information regarding the obvious benefits of being a healthy weight you can find on this forum and elsewhere isn’t sufficient to keep you at it. I suspect the issue isn’t motivation but the difficulty we encounter when we try to change the habits of a lifetime. Earlier in this thread I was referred to a book titled “Atomic Habits”. I have read it and recommend it. It helps you determine what you have to do to get out of your own way, which sounds like it might be underlying your struggle. If not, you are going to have to figure out what the issue is.

For inspiration and motivation I also recommend “Younger Next Year”. This helped me get through the de-motivating issues I first encountered 7 years and 106 pounds ago. It is written by an older guy and his doctor writing alternate chapters and there are parts that are quite witty.

Finally, I am concerned that being discouraged is negatively impacting your determination to get to the cause of your challenge. Kobe Bryant observed if you are afraid you’re going to fail, you will probably fail. Henry Ford said “Whether you say you can or whether you say you can’t, you’re always right.” And I say: if I am going to be right anyway, than I say I can. 

Try giving those books a look, because doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result you know does not work. 

Good luck.

So let me explain what I mean by “why”.  The why is what helps you keep motivation. It’s easy to start, having a “why” -reason-  is what keeps you going when it gets difficult.  There are plenty of reasons to lose weight right. To be healthy, to be fit, for your family, for this or that. I believe that until you find your “why” you cannot lose weight. You have to have something that motivates you to do it. Here’s a scenario: I’ve lost 3 pounds this week, it will be okay to eat those Oreo cookies. It get easier to eat the cookies each time you do it. But.. if you have a motivation or a “why” you tell yourself NO not this time. I am losing weight no matter what. It really is mental. You have to be more mentally strong than to lose weight. It’s easy to give up, it’s not easy to keep going. Having a “why” that works for you is key to mentally keep you focused on your goal. I know I can do it, I just struggle with staying motivated. I will get there. I will try to stay updated in here. 

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On 2/4/2020 at 8:26 AM, MattF said:

It looks like it's in your signature line. You need to edit it in your profile. If it's not there, a mod may need to look at it.

 

On 2/8/2020 at 10:35 AM, MattF said:

Get a hold of @GolfSpy MPR @GolfSpy Stroker @GolfSpy STUDque or @Golfspy_CG2 and they should be able to work it out or punch it upstairs.

Sent a pm, and hope to have this fixed soon. In the meantime we’ll just have to be patient. Thanks MattF.

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On 2/7/2020 at 4:08 PM, RetiredBoomer said:

I am dieting, taking long walks, and lifting weights to try to lower my A1C and lose some weight.

I won't say that it's making me feel suicidal, but only because that's not a pleasant thing to say!☹️

 

 

 

Truth is often unpleasant, but “Let the truth be told though the Heavens fall.” 

Been where you are on this journey. I went through all of the stages of grief when I changed my life style. It’s the things we lose that we mourn. I was fortunate to know enough to expect it, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, or make it easy. I didn’t realize the changes I made then were merely the beginning. The process is evolutionary with no apparent end point. Thoughts like, “Is a life without chocolate a life worth living?” were not helpful.

Having a plan helps. Working out what that should be is the hard part. On that note, if you haven’t read “The Diabetes Code” by kidney specialist Dr. Jason Fung, I suggest you might consider doing so. My own doctor recommended it to me when I complained about the difficulty in finding scientifically tested, peer reviewed, fact based information about diabetes. If you have been following this forum you know I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes 7 years ago. I am currently in remission and have been for about four months. What I learned and applied from this book is what I needed to loose the the last 20 pounds and finally get my A1c under 6.0.  In addition to helping explain how diabetes actually works, there are great suggestions on a variety of things you can do to formulate your own plan. Worked for me, could work for you and there is no harm in trying. What do you think? Worth a try?

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