Justincasalino Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) Friend posed this question to me the other day and I thought it was interesting. Would you rather have a lesson with Rory or his swing coach? I choose swing coach cause it could be more tailored to my style but missing the chance to meet Rory would be a downer. Interested to see what other people would say. Do you prioritize performance or experience (not saying you wouldn't get performance from Rory). Edited October 18, 2020 by Justincasalino Quote Callaway XHot pro 8.5° Ping G410 lst @13.5° Adams idea hybrid 18° 4-Pw Titleist Ap2 716 Callaway Xhot A wedge Clevland 52° cg12 and 56° cg16 Odyssey Versa #7 Link to comment
Buffly Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 @Justincasalino Definitely, no matter who the player or coach is - I would always pick the player. The player has insights on competition, physical fitness, natural ability, practice regimen, and equipment choices that a swing coach may only have pieces of. Getting inside the head of the player has much more benefit to me. By the way, I respect Rory but, I am not a fan. His pouty demeanor is off putting to me. When I watched him play at Torrey Pines it was disappointing. I am much more a fan of Bubba Watson's temperament so, I have really enjoyed the early rounds for charity where he was on a mic - very entertaining. Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 from his coach, definitely. players know what works for them, whereas a coach knows what works for players across a broad spectrum. i’ve worked with pro baseball players in the past. when someone is that talented, they take certain things for granted and sometimes can’t relate to what an average player might struggle with. silver & black and cnosil 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
Justincasalino Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffly said: @Justincasalino Definitely, no matter who the player or coach is - I would always pick the player. The player has insights on competition, physical fitness, natural ability, practice regimen, and equipment choices that a swing coach may only have pieces of. Getting inside the head of the player has much more benefit to me. By the way, I respect Rory but, I am not a fan. His pouty demeanor is off putting to me. When I watched him play at Torrey Pines it was disappointing. I am much more a fan of Bubba Watson's temperament so, I have really enjoyed the early rounds for charity where he was on a mic - very entertaining. I totally didn't consider the competition mentality and other non swing aspects. As someone who doesn't play competitively as much as I used to id still go with the coach for just personal game growth but that definitely makes it a seriously tougher choice. Malaka 1 Quote Callaway XHot pro 8.5° Ping G410 lst @13.5° Adams idea hybrid 18° 4-Pw Titleist Ap2 716 Callaway Xhot A wedge Clevland 52° cg12 and 56° cg16 Odyssey Versa #7 Link to comment
Malaka Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I think it's easy to downplay how valuable a great teacher is. I think I would personally get coached by the coach, and if I had a chance, play with the player. I think the middle ground might be choosing one of the champions tour players that have been in the game for a while, and still perform strong. Maybe Freddie, or Vijay. Sent from my moto g(7) power using MyGolfSpy mobile app Chip Strokes 1 Quote WITB Driver: Z785 , Hazardous 6.0 (Normal) 3 Wood: F85 @ 13.5* Hazardous Red 6.0 (Stiff) Driving Iron/Utility: ZU85 2iron @ 18* Irons: 5-PW, 588CB w/ TT S300's (Stiff) Wedge: RTX4 Satin, 50*/Mid, 56*/Mid and 60*/Low Putter: Portofino Bag: Stand Bag Link to comment
cnosil Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I am going with the coach. I would say they are better equipped to communicate with you. Just because you are good at something doesn’t mean you can teach some how to do that thing. BMart519, Malaka and Chip Strokes 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Coach. Way too many players have no idea what they do that makes them successful. Just listen to how they announce the game. cnosil, Malaka and Chip Strokes 3 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
Chip Strokes Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 @cnosil @THEZIPR23 i agree completely. i wonder if i’d feel the same if the question was asked using Tiger as the example..... THEZIPR23 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: @cnosil @THEZIPR23 i agree completely. i wonder if i’d feel the same if the question was asked using Tiger as the example..... If you are looking for an actual lesson I don't think my answer would change. If it was an hour with Tiger or Rory or any big name guys then that would be a different story. Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
cnosil Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 If you are looking for an actual lesson I don't think my answer would change. If it was an hour with Tiger or Rory or any big name guys then that would be a different story. If it were just spending time playing/talking golf and not lessons then playing/talking everytime. I love volunteering as a standard bearer or walking scorer at professional tournaments which has allowed me to spend lots of time on the course with the pros (Symetra, LPGA, and Senior PGA) and just talking to them and their caddies is a blast. During on the the Symetra rounds we drove carts and one of the players instructors rode with me and i got to hear amazing insight into the golf swing and what he saw from the pros in the group I was scoring. The concern about an hour lesson would be how much would I actually get out if the lesson. Probably wouldn’t change much of anything other than a smallTweak. THEZIPR23 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 If I wanted to become a better player, I'd spend time with the coach. Players aren't necessarily knowledgeable about swing mechanics other than their own, they're not necessarily able to diagnose faults, and they may not have the experience to relate to individual players. Coaches NEED all of those talents, the players don't. On the other hand, I'd love a chance to sit and have a pint with many of the players. cnosil and THEZIPR23 2 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
Pandaman Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 No brained for me, for a proper lesson it would be the coach. On course time and tips though would be cool with the player. Quote Link to comment
Kenny B Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Rory and I look nothing alike, and I can't do the things that Rory can. I seriously doubt that Rory could tell me anything that would be useful to me to make my swing better. Most any swing coach would be better, but the coach would have to be able to work within my capabilities. Chip Strokes 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
dlow206 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Generally I would pick the coach. However, it is possible that Rory could also be talented at coaching and be able to give swing insights that match the type of help I need. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment
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