NC Golfer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) How do you getting the club up in the backswing? I'm recovering from a frozen shoulder, it doesn't help. But, I've had this problem before. I feel like I get stuck in the backswing and I can only get to less than parallel. Then my elbow flies, and my club gets vertical. Then I am toast on the ds. Any drills, suggestions? I've heard before to push down on the handle, any others? Edited October 31, 2021 by NC Golfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Set the wrist at or before club parallel then fold the trail elbow (right arm for right handed golfers). There is a slight upward movement of the lead arm but not much. There’s basically either a one piece takeaway approach where the arms and body keep the triangle together til the hands pass the trail leg then the above wrist set and arm golf take place or like Monte Scheinblum approach of early wrist set and combo of train arm bending and lead arm slightly rotating that puts the club into position at lead arm parallel Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 How far "less than parallel"? There is nothing that says the backswing has to get to club parallel. People have different builds and flexibility, and taking the backswing past what a player can control generally causes mishits and loss of club speed. Short of parallel is pretty good for Jon Rahm and Tony Finau. edingc, cnosil, russtopherb and 3 others 6 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downwindduke Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 A local pro suggested practicing one arm swings (lead arm)and doing so really got me away from worrying about backswing grooves/positions. Now when playing I just try to reproduce the one arm swing feeling. Best drill ever for freeing up my swing of tension. tony@CIC and Shapotomous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, downwindduke said: A local pro suggested practicing one arm swings (lead arm)and doing so really got me away from worrying about backswing grooves/positions. Now when playing I just try to reproduce the one arm swing feeling. Best drill ever for freeing up my swing of tension. Tough thing to do especially when hitting a ball. I have been doing this recently and anything more than a short pitch motion is tough. I use a ball to ensure that I am getting the face square at impact; otherwise I tend to leave the face wide open. Shapotomous, tony@CIC and Kenny B 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Golfer Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) John Daly using a one arm practice swing. https://www.golfchannel.com/video/john-daly-shows-one-arm-drill-improve-swing-rhythm Edited November 19, 2021 by NC Golfer tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 10/31/2021 at 8:56 AM, NC Golfer said: How do you getting the club up in the backswing? I'm recovering from a frozen shoulder, it doesn't help. But, I've had this problem before. I feel like I get stuck in the backswing and I can only get to less than parallel. Then my elbow flies, and my club gets vertical. Then I am toast on the ds. Any drills, suggestions? I've heard before to push down on the handle, any others? The drill at the 11 minute mark in this video really helped me stop over swinging and adding excess bend in my lead elbow. It shows how far you can properly rotate which is the physical limit to your top of backswing. It was surprising how far short of parallel it was for me. Nolan220 and tony@CIC 2 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, BMart519 said: The drill at the 11 minute mark in this video really helped me stop over swinging and adding excess bend in my lead elbow. It shows how far you can properly rotate which is the physical limit to your top of backswing. It was surprising how far short of parallel it was for me. I had not seen this drill before (the 11 minute mark drill). If i rotate as far as I can go, i get to parallel, but I feel a bit overstretched in that position. So my optimal backswing is probably a little bit short of parallel. tony@CIC 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan220 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, BMart519 said: The drill at the 11 minute mark in this video really helped me stop over swinging and adding excess bend in my lead elbow. It shows how far you can properly rotate which is the physical limit to your top of backswing. It was surprising how far short of parallel it was for me. this is a great drill Quote Speedzone Driver Tensei AV Blue or G400 SFT 10. KBS TD 50 Category 3 shaft King Speedzone Black Yellow Fairway 3 wood Tensei AV Blue 65 F9 SpeedBack Black Grey Fairway 5 Wood ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 7 shaft T300 4i-GW - Tensei AV Blue AM2 Regular Flex or JPX 900 Hot Metal 5 - GW Project X Lz 4.5 Regular Flex Graphite Glide 2.0 SS Wedges 54 & 58 TP Red White Ardmore Putter - BGT Stability Tour Black shaft Precision Pro NX7 range finder Ultralight Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Being old I don't get the club up very far in my backswing. That aside, Monte is having me work on getting more depth to my backswing. It's not that I can't get more depth; I can do with practice swings, but put a ball in front of me... I don't! cnosil 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 That’s the sam Snead drill. It’s a great drill to feel where to be in the swing. You can hit balls from there Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Golfer Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 18 hours ago, BMart519 said: The drill at the 11 minute mark in this video really helped me stop over swinging and adding excess bend in my lead elbow. It shows how far you can properly rotate which is the physical limit to your top of backswing. It was surprising how far short of parallel it was for me. Thanks, for sharing and it confirms where my max backswing is right now, at about 75 degrees (lead arm). With a bad shoulder, back, knee. I need to work on my flexibility. If anyone has any set up or technique work arounds in the meantime, I'd appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 7:25 AM, NC Golfer said: Thanks, for sharing and it confirms where my max backswing is right now, at about 75 degrees (lead arm). With a bad shoulder, back, knee. I need to work on my flexibility. If anyone has any set up or technique work arounds in the meantime, I'd appreciate it. Flaring you trail foot outwards instead of perpendicular to target line will add hip turn. You can also experiment with rotating your head away from the target at address which should help with shoulder/back. More complicated adjustments should be assessed by a coach, but lifting instead of rotating could be another approach to assess limited mobility. edingc, NC Golfer and cnosil 3 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Golfer Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) On 11/22/2021 at 10:55 AM, BMart519 said: Flaring you trail foot outwards instead of perpendicular to target line will add hip turn. You can also experiment with rotating your head away from the target at address which should help with shoulder/back. More complicated adjustments should be assessed by a coach, but lifting instead of rotating could be another approach to assess limited mobility. Great suggestions, BMart519. For some reason, flaring my trail foot, puts pressure on my knee. But, dropping it off the target line, maybe similar. I like the head turn, it worked for Jack. Edited November 24, 2021 by NC Golfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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