TSauer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, Prodigal Duffer said: First Impressions 9/10 I have been excitedly awaiting the arrival of my Array blade putter for what feels like a month. I got fit at the end of February, and Bryan confirmed our orders on March 4. Edel’s website says that orders ship within two weeks. I received my putter on March 26; the packing slip says that the order was placed on March 7 and checking the tracking number, the putter shipped on March 22, almost exactly two weeks. I deducted one point because I never received any communication about the shipment. The box bears the Edel logo prominently on one side, and the inside of the box has a very nice, branded liner. The putter was securely fastened with cellophane to a piece of folded cardboard, ensuring that the putter head would remain immobile. Perhaps most surprising on opening the box was the included head cover, which struck me as abnormally large. It is well-padded, and has a simple elegance to it, with a black field, the Edel name in script on the end, with Array in smaller font on one side. Assuming I keep this putter, I would strongly consider keeping the head cover instead of swapping out for something else, like the blade cover from MGS’s store. Readers, let me know which one you would rock. The head has a black matte finish that I really like. I chose the single alignment line, as I think it provides a stark contrast to the matte finish and makes it easy for me to gauge my direction. The back of the head has a clean look with the Edel name on the back of the putting surface, and the Array name and model (B-1) on each side. I don’t like the B on the B-1, as it looks like part of it chipped, but it’s just the font style. I chose a single bend hosel, which gives the putter the least amount of toe hang. I found in my fitting that I tend to slightly close the face through impact, so my hope is that the toe hang will help me keep the face more square. Edel prides itself in its customization options, both in hosel and weight. The blade’s standard weight is 365 grams; in my fitting, we determined that a good weight for me is 360 grams. I ordered my putter with 10 gram weights, giving the putter a total weight of 355 grams. Photo I will specially pay attention to my putting speed during testing. If the 355 grams is too light, it would be pretty easy to swap the weights out (assuming I can order them from Edel separately from the putter). The putter has a milled face, which I have never used. My gamer has an insert, so I expect the ball to come off the face a bit hotter. Finally, I chose the Edel flat standard grip. I really like the look of the grip, which is understated (much like the head cover). The flat side is textured and reminds me of the milled face, which I think is really cool. The end cap is slightly rounded. I use Shot Scope tags, and my putter tag does not fit in my gamer putter. I hope that the tag fits the Array, but I also would guess that using the manual putting tracker on my X5 is more accurate than the tag. Problem is that I frequently forget to mark my putts on my watch. With Easter coming up (in my faith tradition, we start celebrating tomorrow, Thursday), I will not be able to really start testing until early next week. I plan to do some speed tests at the practice facility while my son is at First Tee. I will also begin with my own laser alignment tests on my Birdie Ball putting mat. Look for some updates next week! Nice unboxing! I will agree with you on the font stuff. Not only does the B look a little off, but they use three different fonts on the back of the putter... which is bold decision, imo. Aside from that, the putter looks amazing... I will probably say that about every Edel product lol. As far as the headcover choice goes, you definitely can't go wrong with either, but that Spy one takes a few strokes off your putting, so I hear. Shrek74, Prodigal Duffer, William P and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parshooter36 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I just updated my main post with my fitting experience and first impressions. Please check it out. Prodigal Duffer, ejgaudette, William P and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver: QI10 Max Fairway: Sim2 Max 3HL Fairway: G425 Max 9 Wood Hybrid: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid Irons: Zipcore XL 6-PW Wedges: CBX Zipcore 46° 50° 54° & 58° Putter: Array F-3 Ball: Q-Star Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 32 minutes ago, Parshooter36 said: I just updated my main post with my fitting experience and first impressions. Please check it out. Nice write-up! William P, Rob Person and Parshooter36 2 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 13 hours ago, Prodigal Duffer said: First Impressions 9/10 I have been excitedly awaiting the arrival of my Array blade putter for what feels like a month. I got fit at the end of February, and Bryan confirmed our orders on March 4. Edel’s website says that orders ship within two weeks. I received my putter on March 26; the packing slip says that the order was placed on March 7 and checking the tracking number, the putter shipped on March 22, almost exactly two weeks. I deducted one point because I never received any communication about the shipment. The box bears the Edel logo prominently on one side, and the inside of the box has a very nice, branded liner. The putter was securely fastened with cellophane to a piece of folded cardboard, ensuring that the putter head would remain immobile. Perhaps most surprising on opening the box was the included head cover, which struck me as abnormally large. It is well-padded, and has a simple elegance to it, with a black field, the Edel name in script on the end, with Array in smaller font on one side. Assuming I keep this putter, I would strongly consider keeping the head cover instead of swapping out for something else, like the blade cover from MGS’s store. Readers, let me know which one you would rock. The head has a black matte finish that I really like. I chose the single alignment line, as I think it provides a stark contrast to the matte finish and makes it easy for me to gauge my direction. The back of the head has a clean look with the Edel name on the back of the putting surface, and the Array name and model (B-1) on each side. I don’t like the B on the B-1, as it looks like part of it chipped, but it’s just the font style. I chose a single bend hosel, which gives the putter the least amount of toe hang. I found in my fitting that I tend to slightly close the face through impact, so my hope is that the toe hang will help me keep the face more square. Edel prides itself in its customization options, both in hosel and weight. The blade’s standard weight is 365 grams; in my fitting, we determined that a good weight for me is 360 grams. I ordered my putter with 10 gram weights, giving the putter a total weight of 355 grams. I will specially pay attention to my putting speed during testing. If the 355 grams is too light, it would be pretty easy to swap the weights out (assuming I can order them from Edel separately from the putter). The putter has a milled face, which I have never used. My gamer has an insert, so I expect the ball to come off the face a bit hotter. Finally, I chose the Edel flat standard grip. I really like the look of the grip, which is understated (much like the head cover). The flat side is textured and reminds me of the milled face, which I think is really cool. The end cap is slightly rounded. I use Shot Scope tags, and my putter tag does not fit in my gamer putter. I hope that the tag fits the Array, but I also would guess that using the manual putting tracker on my X5 is more accurate than the tag. Problem is that I frequently forget to mark my putts on my watch. With Easter coming up (in my faith tradition, we start celebrating tomorrow, Thursday), I will not be able to really start testing until early next week. I plan to do some speed tests at the practice facility while my son is at First Tee. I will also begin with my own laser alignment tests on my Birdie Ball putting mat. Look for some updates next week! Looks great! Love the look of the Blade! Just as an FYI, it's not uncommon for us to not get tracking updates or order updates on member testing as for some companies the orders go through the marketing departments and not the standard order process. Shrek74, William P, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Duffer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 19 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said: Looks great! Love the look of the Blade! Just as an FYI, it's not uncommon for us to not get tracking updates or order updates on member testing as for some companies the orders go through the marketing departments and not the standard order process. Good to know. I hesitated on whether I would deduct. I saw that for last year's Edel irons test, our testers received a shipment email, so decided to deduct just one point. Woodrow72, GolfSpy_BOS, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote 2023 MGS tester: OnCore VERO X1 ball 2024 MGS tester: Edel Array putter Driver: Callaway Epic Max 9* 3W: Ping G425 max Irons: Srixon JX5-MKII (5-PW) 48* Titleist Vokey SM9 52* Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56* Titleist Vokey SM8 Putter: Edel Array B-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prodigal Duffer Posted March 29 Popular Post Share Posted March 29 Confirmed that my Shot Scope tag fits the Array (unlike my gamer): Shot Scope did not have the Array listed as an available model in its database. Emailed them this morning and it’s already been added. Awesome customer service. TSauer, Woodrow72, cnosil and 7 others 10 Quote 2023 MGS tester: OnCore VERO X1 ball 2024 MGS tester: Edel Array putter Driver: Callaway Epic Max 9* 3W: Ping G425 max Irons: Srixon JX5-MKII (5-PW) 48* Titleist Vokey SM9 52* Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56* Titleist Vokey SM8 Putter: Edel Array B-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parshooter36 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I played my 1st round yesterday with the F-3. This was the 1st time I played this course and I did not have my best green reading day. Overall, I was pleased with my putting. Most of my misses inside 10 feet were due to under or over reading the break. I did have a tendency to leave the longer putts short, so I need to spend some more time on the practice green and commit to getting the ball past the hole. Another thing I need to work on is staying focused and sticking to my routine on short putts. I had a terrible day off the tee and towards the end of the round I just lost interest and kind of swiped at a couple of short ones coming in and pushed them right. Prodigal Duffer, William P, Shrek74 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Driver: QI10 Max Fairway: Sim2 Max 3HL Fairway: G425 Max 9 Wood Hybrid: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid Irons: Zipcore XL 6-PW Wedges: CBX Zipcore 46° 50° 54° & 58° Putter: Array F-3 Ball: Q-Star Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Duffer Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 25 minutes ago, Parshooter36 said: I played my 1st round yesterday with the F-3. This was the 1st time I played this course and I did not have my best green reading day. Overall, I was pleased with my putting. Most of my misses inside 10 feet were due to under or over reading the break. I did have a tendency to leave the longer putts short, so I need to spend some more time on the practice green and commit to getting the ball past the hole. Another thing I need to work on is staying focused and sticking to my routine on short putts. I had a terrible day off the tee and towards the end of the round I just lost interest and kind of swiped at a couple of short ones coming in and pushed them right. Always tough to judge putting performance when playing an unfamiliar course. Sounds like you have a good sense for which ones were due to that unfamiliarity versus not being used to the putter. How does the F-3 compare in weight to your gamer? Rob Person, Woodrow72 and William P 3 Quote 2023 MGS tester: OnCore VERO X1 ball 2024 MGS tester: Edel Array putter Driver: Callaway Epic Max 9* 3W: Ping G425 max Irons: Srixon JX5-MKII (5-PW) 48* Titleist Vokey SM9 52* Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56* Titleist Vokey SM8 Putter: Edel Array B-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parshooter36 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Prodigal Duffer said: Always tough to judge putting performance when playing an unfamiliar course. Sounds like you have a good sense for which ones were due to that unfamiliarity versus not being used to the putter. How does the F-3 compare in weight to your gamer? The Edel is 54 grams heavier in total weight, but it is 15 points lighter on my swing weight scale. Edited March 30 by Parshooter36 Shrek74, William P, Woodrow72 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver: QI10 Max Fairway: Sim2 Max 3HL Fairway: G425 Max 9 Wood Hybrid: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid Irons: Zipcore XL 6-PW Wedges: CBX Zipcore 46° 50° 54° & 58° Putter: Array F-3 Ball: Q-Star Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I played my first round with the F-3 and results were better than I could have expected, made more 6-9 footers than I have in months , I did 3 putt twice from over 50 feet uphill but believe it’s due to lack of reps . I realized the he prediction of my fitting what was said , I would get more distance with much less effort . That cost me a couple putts that I struck too hard . The overall result from yesterday was - where I aimed it is where it went -that felt awesome Bucky CC, Fongle, Rob Person and 5 others 8 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy AFG Posted March 31 Popular Post Share Posted March 31 The Fitting So to summarize my previous posts on my current gamers, I'm not a terribly good putter with either of the face-balanced Odyssey's I've been gaming. The torque-balanced LAB was even worse. According to my fitting, it turns out face-balanced is all wrong for me. Here are the screen shots from the fitting at Club Champion via S&M Lab. On the very positive side, I'm exceedingly consistent in my stroke. However, among many other observations you can glean from these, I'm consistently aiming the face a bit closed at impact, my path is a bit outside in, and I'm delivering a LOT of loft at impact. As a result, I'm pulling putts and my speed control is suffering due to my putts being a little too airborne. In turn, I've been fit into an F-1 putter head, with a slant neck. The putter will be 2 degrees upright and lofted at only 1.5 degrees to help get the ball rolling earlier. What will that look like? Stay tuned, cuz get what arrived today... Northern Monkey, goaliewales14, Fongle and 11 others 10 4 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Qi10 7w, 21, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Accra TZ 95 stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, 60 T Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: EV8 Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 It's truly amazing where technology has put us. In all aspects of golf! 15+ years ago we went strictly off feel and looks with putters. Seeing these data backed fittings is truly a wonderment to me! Looking forward to how it all translates to real play for everyone! Northern Monkey, ZackS, GolfSpy AFG and 4 others 7 Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? Bucky CC, Shrek74, Rob Person and 2 others 5 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 11 hours ago, Woodrow72 said: I played my first round with the F-3 and results were better than I could have expected, made more 6-9 footers than I have in months , I did 3 putt twice from over 50 feet uphill but believe it’s due to lack of reps . I realized the he prediction of my fitting what was said , I would get more distance with much less effort . That cost me a couple putts that I struck too hard . The overall result from yesterday was - where I aimed it is where it went -that felt awesome Let’s see some photos of that beauty! Rob Person and William P 2 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Need to communicate with my tech person, as I’m having issues getting pictures loaded , converted to pdf file but I’m missing a step so as soon as I talk with them I’ll be loading up bunch of them . Rob Person and William P 2 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 25 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? Definitely something OEM could benefit from though it could result in fewer putters sold since a fitted putter would stay in your bag much longer - the aiming with the Edel after the fitting is so effective for me , I’m excited to get on with play and testing this coming week ZackS, Shrek74, Rob Person and 3 others 6 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, GolfSpy AFG said: On the very positive side, I'm exceedingly consistent in my stroke. However, among many other observations you can glean from these, I'm consistently aiming the face a bit closed at impact, my path is a bit outside in, and I'm delivering a LOT of loft at impact. As a result, I'm pulling putts and my speed control is suffering due to my putts being a little too airborne. I'm a little confused. your diagrams show face consistently open at impact but you wrote you are closed at impact. The path doesn't have a huge influence on ball direction and ball direction even shows it goes right. Makes me wonder how you are pulling putts; everything shows they should be going right. 38 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? I think Edel fittings are good, but not everyone in the putting industry believes in the approach and not every player believes that the fitting will provide benefit. For example, the putter or player analogy people would say that its not the putter and the player should be able to putt with anything. Players would also complain about looks even though the putter may perform significantly better than something that looks "good" to them. All of this probably depends on where you fit in the mechanics vs. feel balance. Lets look at someone like Tiger that sets up open and tries to hook his putts; an Edel fitting would probably destroy his putting. Shrek74, TSauer, ZackS and 6 others 6 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pearson Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/27/2024 at 12:01 PM, Woodrow72 said: Well it’s been a fabulous day , I make my 5th hole in one today ( 3 in 11 months ) and get home and I have an Edel box waiting on me outside on my spare golf cart , blessings abound today !! I’ll be posting pics of the box opening later as I’ve not opened yet and it’s like Christmas ! A 15 making 3 hole in 1’s in 11 months, remind me not to get in a match with you. Congrats! ZackS, William P, Rob Person and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prodigal Duffer Posted March 31 Popular Post Share Posted March 31 (edited) Spent a little time this Easter morning on my Birdie Ball practice green. I wanted to get a feel for how the B-1 aligns with the toe hang versus my gamer, which is face-balanced. I also wanted to get a sense for speed with the B-1. For reference, my BB is a 10-11 on the stimp. First, I did a drill where I had to make 12 in a row from just over 3 feet. It took me four attempts, usually biffing on the 10th putt. At first, I moved the ball forward in my stance for a few reasons, one of which was to prevent forward shaft lean. After making my 12, I moved to about six feet. I found that my consistency dropped a lot. I also had a harder time with speed. Finally, I putted from roughly eight feet. At this point, I moved the ball back to the middle of my stance. This was the result: Every ball (except the one behind the hole) hit the cup. The first three caused the other six to deflect off. Pretty good. I just ordered some putting gates. On Tuesday, I plan to do an accuracy test by hitting balls through the gates from various distances, both with the gamer and the Array. I also plan to test distance control. Happy Easter to all! Edited March 31 by Prodigal Duffer TSauer, GolfSpy_APH, Parshooter36 and 7 others 9 1 Quote 2023 MGS tester: OnCore VERO X1 ball 2024 MGS tester: Edel Array putter Driver: Callaway Epic Max 9* 3W: Ping G425 max Irons: Srixon JX5-MKII (5-PW) 48* Titleist Vokey SM9 52* Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56* Titleist Vokey SM8 Putter: Edel Array B-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parshooter36 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? It was definitely the most thorough putter fitting I have been through. I've never been through an OEM specific fitting other than my LAB virtual fitting I did a couple of years ago. I know a guy that went through a Seemore fitting a few years ago, I will have to trade notes with him and see how the fittings compare. TSauer, GolfSpy_APH, Prodigal Duffer and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: QI10 Max Fairway: Sim2 Max 3HL Fairway: G425 Max 9 Wood Hybrid: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid Irons: Zipcore XL 6-PW Wedges: CBX Zipcore 46° 50° 54° & 58° Putter: Array F-3 Ball: Q-Star Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Harry Pearson said: A 15 making 3 hole in 1’s in 11 months, remind me not to get in a match with you. Congrats! Wasn’t always a15 but still have some good moves in me once in a while , if only I could do it every swing William P, ZackS and Rob Person 3 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky CC Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 4 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? As someone who hasn't been able to book an Edel fitting yet I would say it's probably not the most ideal process for other OEM's to copy. If you want more people to be fit to your products availability and cost are huge factors. I'm sure Edel will appear in more locations if the Array is a hit with consumers, but for right now it's difficult to find a fitter nearby and all of them or on the higher end of the scale cost-wise. Ideally I'd like to see a tiered model for putter fitting: Self trials at the big box stores - free 15 minute talk with employees - minimal cost and/or free for rewards members Any type of technology involved in a 30 minute fitting - moderate cost ($50?) Full fledged hour+ fitting at a specialty shop (Club Champion, Golftec, etc) = $100 Right now to get fit for an Edel Array your only option is the fourth bullet point. Edited March 31 by Bucky CC ZackS, Shrek74, GolfSpy_APH and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Stealth 2 10.5°, Kai'li Red X Fairway Wood: Rogue ST LS 16.5°, Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 75 X 3 Hybrid: F9, LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85 X 4 Iron: Ping G410 Crossover 5-PW: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff Wedges: Jet Black 50°08F, 54°12D, 58°08M, True Temper Dynamic Gold Black S200 Putter: StrokeLab White Hot OG #7, Evnroll Tourtac grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 51 minutes ago, Bucky CC said: As someone who hasn't been able to book an Edel fitting yet I would say it's probably not the most ideal process for other OEM's to copy. If you want more people to be fit to your products availability and cost are huge factors. I'm sure Edel will appear in more locations if the Array is a hit with consumers, but for right now it's difficult to find a fitter nearby and all of them or on the higher end of the scale cost-wise. Ideally I'd like to see a tiered model for putter fitting: Self trials at the big box stores - free 15 minute talk with employees - minimal cost and/or free for rewards members Any type of technology involved in a 30 minute fitting - moderate cost ($50?) Full fledged hour+ fitting at a specialty shop (Club Champion, Golftec, etc) = $100 Right now to get fit for an Edel Array your only option is the fourth bullet point. My Club Champion was $125 and worth it , it’s much like most things you get done professionally, you get what you pay for most of the time . William P, Shrek74, Rob Person and 1 other 4 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackS Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 5 hours ago, Bucky CC said: As someone who hasn't been able to book an Edel fitting yet I would say it's probably not the most ideal process for other OEM's to copy. If you want more people to be fit to your products availability and cost are huge factors. I'm sure Edel will appear in more locations if the Array is a hit with consumers, but for right now it's difficult to find a fitter nearby and all of them or on the higher end of the scale cost-wise. Ideally I'd like to see a tiered model for putter fitting: Self trials at the big box stores - free 15 minute talk with employees - minimal cost and/or free for rewards members Any type of technology involved in a 30 minute fitting - moderate cost ($50?) Full fledged hour+ fitting at a specialty shop (Club Champion, Golftec, etc) = $100 Right now to get fit for an Edel Array your only option is the fourth bullet point. The think with the Edel fitting process is so do the whole thing you need at least an hour so hard to have any of the first 3. 9 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: For all those who have done an Edel fitting - do you think other OEMs or companies should look at this process more closely and try to resemble it in some form or fashion? Do you think consumers in general would benefit from that? The main thing I think others should adopt is the aiming aspect of the fitting. Most fittings I see all talk about stroke and what type putter you need for that stroke. That is all important as well. But as someone who used to work in the industry mainly on the teaching side. Most issues come from compensations and the first and most common compensation I would see stemmed from alignment and putting is no different. William P, Rob Person, Bucky CC and 2 others 5 Quote WITB: Driver: Titleist TSR3 with TPT Nitro 15Hi 5 wood: Calloway Paradym Triple Diamond with TPT Power 15Lo Driving Iron: Tour Edge Exotics EXS Ti-Utility Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen2 hybrid with TPT Power 15Lo Irons: Takomo 101T with Nippon Modus 120 shafts Wedges: Celveland RTX4 50 Degree, Calloway Jaws Raw 58 degree Z grind and 54 degree S grind Putter: Edel EAS 4.0 Ball: Srixon Z Star Diamond / Z Star XV Official 2024 TPT Shaft Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 8 minutes ago, ZackS said: The main thing I think others should adopt is the aiming aspect of the fitting. Most fittings I see all talk about stroke and what type putter you need for that stroke. That is all important as well. But as someone who used to work in the industry mainly on the teaching side. Most issues come from compensations and the first and most common compensation I would see stemmed from alignment and putting is no different. Stroke is definitely less important than face angle almost to the point of being meaningless since it influences ball direction by 5-15% depending on who you read. What I think isn't discussed enough with Edel or most any putter OEM is face angle at impact. I can aim perfectly every time but if the face doesn't return to the correct angle the putt will go offline. This could be "fixed" by saying that the player needs to return the face to the same orientation as the perfect aim that Edel helps you establish. We could look at many PGA pros; I know they are really different and we shouldn't compare since they have and continue to practice what they do, that don't aim the face perfectly. Shrek74, Bucky CC, ZackS and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackS Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, cnosil said: Stroke is definitely less important than face angle almost to the point of being meaningless since it influences ball direction by 5-15% depending on who you read. What I think isn't discussed enough with Edel or most any putter OEM is face angle at impact. I can aim perfectly every time but if the face doesn't return to the correct angle the putt will go offline. This could be "fixed" by saying that the player needs to return the face to the same orientation as the perfect aim that Edel helps you establish. We could look at many PGA pros; I know they are really different and we shouldn't compare since they have and continue to practice what they do, that don't aim the face perfectly. Your right at the end of the day face angle at impact and being able to repeat that is the most important. This is why you have many different swings and putting strokes among the world’s best. And for someone who can do that with poor starting alignment you don’t change. The reason I focus on starting alignment as much as I do is compensation breeds inconsistencies even in the world’s best. It’s just they can repeat that compensation at such a constant level you would not make huge changes at that point because of the amount of time it would take to change and get back to their current repeatability. But let’s face it none of us are on that level of body control and or have the time needed to ingrain it to that level. So eliminating as much competition as possible is usually the best path and alignment despite being a very common problem is one of the easiest to fix and practice. As a side note on this subject as well the above is not taking in account compensations that have to be made for physical limitations which of course have to be taken account for when necessary. William P, Rob Person, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote WITB: Driver: Titleist TSR3 with TPT Nitro 15Hi 5 wood: Calloway Paradym Triple Diamond with TPT Power 15Lo Driving Iron: Tour Edge Exotics EXS Ti-Utility Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen2 hybrid with TPT Power 15Lo Irons: Takomo 101T with Nippon Modus 120 shafts Wedges: Celveland RTX4 50 Degree, Calloway Jaws Raw 58 degree Z grind and 54 degree S grind Putter: Edel EAS 4.0 Ball: Srixon Z Star Diamond / Z Star XV Official 2024 TPT Shaft Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 26 minutes ago, ZackS said: Your right at the end of the day face angle at impact and being able to repeat that is the most important. This is why you have many different swings and putting strokes among the world’s best. And for someone who can do that with poor starting alignment you don’t change. The reason I focus on starting alignment as much as I do is compensation breeds inconsistencies even in the world’s best. It’s just they can repeat that compensation at such a constant level you would not make huge changes at that point because of the amount of time it would take to change and get back to their current repeatability. But let’s face it none of us are on that level of body control and or have the time needed to ingrain it to that level. So eliminating as much competition as possible is usually the best path and alignment despite being a very common problem is one of the easiest to fix and practice. As a side note on this subject as well the above is not taking in account compensations that have to be made for physical limitations which of course have to be taken account for when necessary. 100% Rob Person and ZackS 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrow72 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/5/2024 at 1:33 PM, Bucky CC said: Right now I have an Evnroll TourTac 90g putter grip on my Odyssey putter. I've also used SuperStroke Pistol 1.0 grips a fair amount in the past. I wouldn't mind going with one of the Edel dual layered grips but we'll see how they feel when I have my fitting in less than 2 weeks. I used the Super Stroke 2.5 but the fitting pro determined I needed a smaller oversized , so the Edel grip was the correct one - my previous fitting also fitted me with a bit larger grip but not the Super Size grip so I’m guessing it’s pretty consistent with my needs Rob Person, Shrek74 and Bucky CC 3 Quote Ping driver ping fairway tour edge irons Cleveland wedges Scotty mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 17 hours ago, cnosil said: I'm a little confused. your diagrams show face consistently open at impact but you wrote you are closed at impact. The path doesn't have a huge influence on ball direction and ball direction even shows it goes right. Makes me wonder how you are pulling putts; everything shows they should be going right. I think Edel fittings are good, but not everyone in the putting industry believes in the approach and not every player believes that the fitting will provide benefit. For example, the putter or player analogy people would say that its not the putter and the player should be able to putt with anything. Players would also complain about looks even though the putter may perform significantly better than something that looks "good" to them. All of this probably depends on where you fit in the mechanics vs. feel balance. Lets look at someone like Tiger that sets up open and tries to hook his putts; an Edel fitting would probably destroy his putting. How you feeling? I hope recovering well. My foot is healing very nicely. I'm working on swing mechanics anyway, retracting my left shoulder at the same time as keeping the left arm straight on backswing. Just part of my challenge, being pretty hunchbacked with uneven upper body muscles. Rob Person and cnosil 1 1 Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 3 hours ago, Donn lost in San Diego said: How you feeling? I hope recovering well. My foot is healing very nicely. I'm working on swing mechanics anyway, retracting my left shoulder at the same time as keeping the left arm straight on backswing. Just part of my challenge, being pretty hunchbacked with uneven upper body muscles. Keep healing, keep practicing! Hopefully recovery will be easier as you go! Quote WITB- Driver -Titleist 910D, 3w- Titleist 910F, 5hy/7hy- Titleist 910H, 6-PW - Stix , 52⁰, 56⁰, 60⁰ - Stix , Putter- AI-ONE DB / Lombardi Tour 34 custom Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.