mpatrickriley Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 My name is Michael, and I have a MGS confession to make. I'm approaching my 500th post here. I'm moving up the classification of Spies. And I just posted my very first official club review. But I'm not getting along with my new Evnroll putter (the ER6, in black). I just played with it again this morning, and had 20 putts on nine holes. Three 3-putts! I'm about seven rounds in with the ER6, and my strokes gained putting stats (in Game Golf) are going the wrong way. I love the look of this putter. I've paid more for it than for any other single club I've ever bought. I'm a loyal MGS guy, and I think we're contractually obligated to like Evnrolls. But my Elevado 2135 is looking disgruntled, wondering why I've replaced it with a putter that's performing worse for me. Stick it out? Bench it for a bit? If I go back to the Cleveland, will I lose a Spy ranking here? Worse, will my wife kill me for spending $250 on a putter that's not in my bag? TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
GB13 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There is always a learning curve with new clubs especially putters but if you feel that it isn't going to work for you, then bench it. Evnrolls work best for the MAJORITY of golfers. Enjoy the search. The search is half the fun. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
MDGolfHacker Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 No spy deduction points ha ha ha. That's the rub of golf equipment. While there mights be a best in class determined by MGS, that's still a generalization and will not work for everyone. It just can't as we all have different swing types, body types, physical limitations etc. Just like GB13 said, there is going to be a learning curve (like with the F8 One Lengths I'm testing for the Cobra Connect II challenge). I'd say give it a few more rounds, and if it's not performing the way you want it to, bench/sell it and move back to your old putter or search for another one. Maybe best to invest in a putter fitting to truly narrow down what kind of putter you really need (I'm in this boat). MDGolfHacker What's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1x / Z*Star RangeFinder: Titan Elite Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Current MyGolfSpy Review - Precision Pro Titan Elite Rangefinder: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64979-testers-announced-precision-pro-titan-elite/?do=findComment&comment=1082733 Link to comment
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted July 31, 2018 SPY VIP Share Posted July 31, 2018 LOL. No you will never lose spy ranking by not taking a Most Wanted suggestion. The reality is even after 17000+ putts what we find is that it is the putter that works best for most golfers, but not all. The tech is real but a couple things might be happening. You could have the right tech but the wrong model. Meaning one that does not fit your stroke. They make one for just about every one. Also, if you find a putter that works better (not just for one bad putting round) go with what works for you. My name is Michael, and I have a MGS confession to make. I'm approaching my 500th post here. I'm moving up the classification of Spies. And I just posted my very first official club review. But I'm not getting along with my new Evnroll putter (the ER6, in black). I just played with it again this morning, and had 20 putts on nine holes. Three 3-putts! I'm about seven rounds in with the ER6, and my strokes gained putting stats (in Game Golf) are going the wrong way. I love the look of this putter. I've paid more for it than for any other single club I've ever bought. I'm a loyal MGS guy, and I think we're contractually obligated to like Evnrolls. But my Elevado 2135 is looking disgruntled, wondering why I've replaced it with a putter that's performing worse for me. Stick it out? Bench it for a bit? If I go back to the Cleveland, will I lose a Spy ranking here? Worse, will my wife kill me for spending $250 on a putter that's not in my bag? #TruthDigest Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 LOL. No you will never lose spy ranking by not taking a Most Wanted suggestion. The reality is even after 17000+ putts what we find is that is the putter that works best for most golfers. But not all. The tech is real but a couple things might be happening. You could have the right tech but the wrong model. Meaning one that does not fit your stroke. They make one for just about every one. Also, if you find a putter that works better (not just for one bad putting round) go with what works for you. Definitely writing here with my tongue in cheek, but I also sincerely want this putter to work. Given what I know about my stroke (from a couple of different swing analyzers [swingbyte 2 and 3Bays]), my path is straight rather than arced, but tends to cut from out to in. I've never liked the feel of a putter more than my Elevado, but even that one didn't come alive for me in terms of results until I swapped the grip for a P2. Right now, I'm looking to do the same on the Evnroll. I remain hopeful. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
Golfspy_CG2 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Definitely writing here with my tongue in cheek, but I also sincerely want this putter to work. Given what I know about my stroke (from a couple of different swing analyzers [swingbyte 2 and 3Bays]), my path is straight rather than arced, but tends to cut from out to in. I've never liked the feel of a putter more than my Elevado, but even that one didn't come alive for me in terms of results until I swapped the grip for a P2. Right now, I'm looking to do the same on the Evnroll. I remain hopeful. How does the saying go, and it may have been Golspy X that said it, "There's no driver for everyone, but there's one driver for everyone." Same would go for putter, I would say. G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment
revkev Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 How does the saying go, and it may have been Golspy X that said it, "There's no driver for everyone, but there's one driver for everyone." Same would go for putter, I would say. Perhaps even more so. But I've been there done that in this regard. Not drilling down into the data deep enough. There was an Adams driver a number of years back that everyone raves about and had to have. It was a disaster for me. Lost distance and accuracy. I was also fit into a steel shafted iron by that blasted Mizuno Swing Optimizer - by the time I was done with that combo my game was in shambles Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment
cksurfdude Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Does the Elevado have the TFI face? Just curious, and obviously, it's quite different vs. EvnRoll's patented tech milled face .. and perhaps it's just a better "feel" for you..... As lots of people say in lots of threads on here - play what works for *you*! WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. For Sale in Classifieds: SkyTrak home launch monitor in excellent condition Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Does the Elevado have the TFI face? Just curious, and obviously, it's quite different vs. EvnRoll's patented tech milled face .. and perhaps it's just a better "feel" for you..... As lots of people say in lots of threads on here - play what works for *you*! Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much. Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense). Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break. I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole. That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
GB13 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much. Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense). Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break. I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole. That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting That theory makes sense. It has been said many times, you need a club fit to you not a club that you need to fit your stroke to. If you don't pick a specific target or use the alignment aid on the ball, the Evnroll probably isn't the putter for you. It sounds like you had a good thing with the Cleveland so I am not sure I would change putters at this point. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment
Kanoito Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I didn't know this at first, but you actually use the dot or line on the higher side to aim (ask jlukes) So if you have a right to left break, you would aim it with the dot/line closer to the toe. This helps to stay on the high side. SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment
Kor.A.Door Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 My name is Michael, and I have a MGS confession to make. I'm approaching my 500th post here. I'm moving up the classification of Spies. And I just posted my very first official club review. But I'm not getting along with my new Evnroll putter (the ER6, in black). I just played with it again this morning, and had 20 putts on nine holes. Three 3-putts! I'm about seven rounds in with the ER6, and my strokes gained putting stats (in Game Golf) are going the wrong way. I love the look of this putter. I've paid more for it than for any other single club I've ever bought. I'm a loyal MGS guy, and I think we're contractually obligated to like Evnrolls. But my Elevado 2135 is looking disgruntled, wondering why I've replaced it with a putter that's performing worse for me. Stick it out? Bench it for a bit? If I go back to the Cleveland, will I lose a Spy ranking here? Worse, will my wife kill me for spending $250 on a putter that's not in my bag? First thing, You won't lose points for not using the Evnroll, but you will lose points because your wife knows how much you spent on golf equipment that you aren't using.😠As for not putting well with it, that's golf, switch it up and try it again later, or sell it here, I'm sure someone will buy it. I've got a friend who played college golf, and one of his coaches always told him, you never get rid of a putter. you can sell, trade, give away, burn any other club, but never get rid of a putter, you never know when it will work for you. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment
PlaidJacket Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Ahhh.. if it were me I'd kick the guy out for dissing a MW product. LOL Just messing with ya riley.... I believe I'd stack it in the corner for a while and go back to the one that brung ya. I have a Cobra driver that was a 3rd place MWD finisher back in 2015 and I wanted this driver since the day I saw it. Everyone said it was a killer stick. So I bought one. And guess what.... I can't make it work. So guess what again? I'm sticking with my ancient 2014 SLDR. Because it works amazingly well for me. I think you can quickly sell that Evnroll easily right here in the Forum if you wanted. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment
cksurfdude Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Yes, it's the Satin version, with the variable milling across the face. Incredibly soft feel, given the very deep milling in the center and the fact that the milled face sits on top of an insert. If you like a soft feeling putter (and I do), I can't recommend the Cleveland Satin line too much. Here's my only theory about my struggles with the ER6 thus far: the head has the three long and prominent alignment lines on it. It wants to be swung straight back and forth, aimed directly at the target. That's perfect for me on straight putts. But on breaking putts, I've not been one to pick a particular spot to putt to. My approach to breaking putts has tended to be more intuitive or feel-oriented: roll the ball where it seems it would roll on a path to the hole. (If that makes sense). Today, I was hitting my putts with decent enough speed, but starting them with far too little break. I suspect, then, that absent a particular aiming target, the lines are encouraging me to roll the ball on a line to the hole. That's my theory. Or maybe I'm just bad at putting If I recall, in your basement putter test you weren't crazy about the MLA, either .. which also happens to have a full-milled (and IMHO firm-feeling) face; so tenuous, subjective conclusion is you prefer the softer-feel insert face..? On the alignment lines - your theory is completely plausible. MGS, and Edel, have posted really interesting articles about why there are so many variations of alignment lines because each individual perceives and reacts to them differently .. eg. certain variations may cause one person to inadvertantly line up more left while the same thing might cause another to line up more right...! WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. For Sale in Classifieds: SkyTrak home launch monitor in excellent condition Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 Step one in my "save my Evnroll" project: pulling the shaft and replacing it. In general, I'm finding that it's easier (and relatively cheap, with putter shafts) to pull the shaft than it is to try to pull the grip (because I'm not interested in cutting it off). So if I'm going to change out shafts, I'm going to replace it with a matte black one that matches the head. P2 grip arrives Monday. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
FiveGs Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Have you thought about paint filling the outer and inner alignment lines black so you can focus on the center line? Also, were you custom fit for your ER6? It makes a huge difference on alignment. I have the ER1.2 TourBlade and had it custom fit at EVNROLL. When I tried it “off the rack†it felt great but wasn't dialed in accurate for me. After a few adjustments, it was lights out. I hope this helps as it's a fantastic putter and I'd like to see you keep it in the bag. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy “I should of yelled Two!” Driver: PXG 0811x Gen 4 / Tour AD TP6s 3W: PXG 0341x Gen 1 / Tour AD TP6s 3HY: GAPR / KBS Stiff 4-PW: P770 / Nippon Pro Modus 3 120 Stiff + 1/2” Wedges: MG3 / Nippon Pro Modus 3 120 Stiff + 1/2” 50-09, 54-11, 60-10 Putter: Grandsport 35 Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Sun Mountain C-130 Cart: Clicgear 4.0 Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 If I recall, in your basement putter test you weren't crazy about the MLA, either .. which also happens to have a full-milled (and IMHO firm-feeling) face; so tenuous, subjective conclusion is you prefer the softer-feel insert face..? On the alignment lines - your theory is completely plausible. MGS, and Edel, have posted really interesting articles about why there are so many variations of alignment lines because each individual perceives and reacts to them differently .. eg. certain variations may cause one person to inadvertantly line up more left while the same thing might cause another to line up more right...! You've nailed this: all else being equal, I like a putter that feels really soft. I've rolled a couple of the O-Works putters in stores, and they feel like mush. I like it. On the plus side, with the Evnroll, I found that I was almost never leaving anything short. That's one advantage of a bit firmer face. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 Have you thought about paint filling the outer and inner alignment lines black so you can focus on the center line? This would be a last resort idea for me, not because it's a bad idea, but because it's the kind of thing I could mangle a bit and really tank the resale value of the ER6 if I do decide to move on. Replacing the shaft with the matte black has already been interesting: because of the near-perfect color match, the shaft essentially disappears at address. As I mentioned above, my P2 grip (a white and red Classic) arrives today. For me, the Cleveland really came alive when I put that P2 on; being able to feel the face of the putter in the palm of my left hand (I putt left-hand low) is profoundly helpful to me. My current solution with the alignment lines is to (more or less) ignore them, especially during the stroke. Once the putter is in place, I seem to do better if I'm mentally treating my putter like it's merely a face (rather than a large, lined head). Makes me wonder if the Spider with no alignment lines would work for me. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
Kenny B Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 This would be a last resort idea for me, not because it's a bad idea, but because it's the kind of thing I could mangle a bit and really tank the resale value of the ER6 if I do decide to move on. You could try some black pin striping tape to cover the white; easily removed. Best of luck on the shaft change. After the initial MGS review, I tried all the Evnroll models at a PGA Superstore in Phoenix. Never did find one that felt good to me; just something about the weight. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
fozcycle Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Hey Michael. Foz here.....I tested the original Evnroll ER6.....I struggled for a long time, would change out to a different putter for a couple rounds, then go back to the ER6. It has taken me 1 1/2 years to finally get the feel. I even changed my grip to an interlock, like TW, and finally can say I love this putter. So stick with it and you may grow to love it. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Gravity Grip or ER6 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Tommy Armour Impact No. 3 Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Bridgestone RXS Mindset, Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 Hey Michael. Foz here.....I tested the original Evnroll ER6.....I struggled for a long time, would change out to a different putter for a couple rounds, then go back to the ER6. It has taken me 1 1/2 years to finally get the feel. I even changed my grip to an interlock, like TW, and finally can say I love this putter. So stick with it and you may grow to love it. Foz, thanks for the encouragement. Definitely planning to keep at it. Here's what's killing me: my last several rounds with the G700s have been incredibly good. Game Golf is telling me that I'm shaving 3 shots a round off my approach game with them (not to spoil my upcoming Stage 2). But I'm giving them back with the putter (which I put in the bag at the same time). It would be awesome to watch my handicap fall, given how I'm hitting the ball. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
cnosil Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Foz, thanks for the encouragement. Definitely planning to keep at it. Here's what's killing me: my last several rounds with the G700s have been incredibly good. Game Golf is telling me that I'm shaving 3 shots a round off my approach game with them (not to spoil my upcoming Stage 2). But I'm giving them back with the putter (which I put in the bag at the same time). It would be awesome to watch my handicap fall, given how I'm hitting the ball. Probably need to look deeper, not trying to spoil you stage 2. Are you hitting more greens with the new clubs? If so, that could explain more putts or a sign that you need to work on longer putts. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 And the grip has arrived. I'll keep you posted. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
GeekingGolf Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Look I completely get it. I bought an ER2 last year and it didn't agree with me. It happens the Most Wanted is in a way a starting point to finding the right putter. I even bought the Tommy Armour Impact No 3 this year and even though I really like it and I still have it I putt best right now with an old Scotty Cameron Futura Phantom 2 center shafted putter. Heck i dont even know why i bought it off Ebay for 47 bucks and i have never putted better. I would bet there is a putter on the Most Wanted List that is best for you. Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app "Obviously my iron play is incredible, and when I get going I can get hot, but this course just fits my eye. The shaping of the holes, and just a couple of the doglegs, I'm able to shape shots." – Bryson DeChambeau In my Hoofer Lite Z765 9.5 with Miyazaka Kaula Mizu 6 Stiff Shaft (TrueGolfFit Recommended!!!) F8 3-4 wood 16* Aldilla Blue 70 Stiff shaft Rescue mid 2 iron 16* One Length Forged Tec 4-GW with AMT Black shafts Futura Phantom 2 Tour B330 RX Like Bass Fishing? Check out my one and only article!!! https://www.bassresource.com/beginner/get-started-bass-fishing.html Link to comment
PMookie Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Dude! Put... It... Up!!!! Sheesh! No reason to play anything that doesn't work for u! We don't always mesh with clubs, and putter is no different. If you replaced your prior putter, due to poor performance, with this one and didn't go through a fitting, I highly suggest a putter fitting. Good luck!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment
GeekingGolf Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just to add a little tid bit I made a 30 ft putt today for birdie that never would have happened with any other putter for some odd reason this putter just works. It's crazy my normal stroke is a slight arc but according to the ping app my stroke wasn't always that consistent so I force myself to go straight back straight through and I am hitting putts every round. Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app "Obviously my iron play is incredible, and when I get going I can get hot, but this course just fits my eye. The shaping of the holes, and just a couple of the doglegs, I'm able to shape shots." – Bryson DeChambeau In my Hoofer Lite Z765 9.5 with Miyazaka Kaula Mizu 6 Stiff Shaft (TrueGolfFit Recommended!!!) F8 3-4 wood 16* Aldilla Blue 70 Stiff shaft Rescue mid 2 iron 16* One Length Forged Tec 4-GW with AMT Black shafts Futura Phantom 2 Tour B330 RX Like Bass Fishing? Check out my one and only article!!! https://www.bassresource.com/beginner/get-started-bass-fishing.html Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 Dude! Put... It... Up!!!! Sheesh! No reason to play anything that doesn't work for u! We don't always mesh with clubs, and putter is no different. If you replaced your prior putter, due to poor performance, with this one and didn't go through a fitting, I highly suggest a putter fitting. Good luck!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro My first post was obviously dramatized for amusement, but your advice remains good, though I need to respond a bit. Some who play this game do it only for the number they write at the end of the round. While that matters to me (obviously, given my whining about performance), I also enjoy other things about the game. I like trying out new clubs. I like tinkering with them. I enjoy a rare splurge on something like this, since I'm mostly a second hand club buyer. And I enjoy the community here, a small part of which is an appreciation of the Evnroll putters. So if it were all about the score, I should banish the Evnroll to the basement putter rack and go back to my Elevado (which is exactly what I did last week). But I'm holding out hope that a grip change can make a big difference with this putter. Early results on my basement green were positive. Playing a round in the morning. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Same problem here. I bought an ER3 and it is great, best rolling putter I have ever had. However I was terrible with the short putts. But I believe the technology works so I bought an ER 1.2, it has more toe hang and fixed my short putt issue. Tinkering is just that, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Now I have a almost new putter to sell... Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
PMookie Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My first post was obviously dramatized for amusement, but your advice remains good, though I need to respond a bit. Some who play this game do it only for the number they write at the end of the round. While that matters to me (obviously, given my whining about performance), I also enjoy other things about the game. I like trying out new clubs. I like tinkering with them. I enjoy a rare splurge on something like this, since I'm mostly a second hand club buyer. And I enjoy the community here, a small part of which is an appreciation of the Evnroll putters. So if it were all about the score, I should banish the Evnroll to the basement putter rack and go back to my Elevado (which is exactly what I did last week). But I'm holding out hope that a grip change can make a big difference with this putter. Early results on my basement green were positive. Playing a round in the morning. Hmm. Does missing putts still make a round a happy one? If you look at the clubs I've been through in the last 3 years, you'd see I tinker as well. It is fun.But when one doesn't perform, it's gone. I'm curious of how you keep the game fun when the results aren't positive, keeping score or not. I may need to learn from you here! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment
mpatrickriley Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 OK, that's better. Just finished a round in which I had 14 putts (with one chip-in). Game Golf said I gained .2 strokes against a scratch golfer with my putting (and for a 15-handicap, that's really good). I've been working with the Evnroll on distance control, doing some ladder drills on my basement green. That was my focus today: I'd place the putter on my aim line, and then during the stroke, I was only thinking about rolling the ball a certain distance. Like @cksurfdude noted above, I'm a fan of softer faces, and I think that's the adjustment I need to make here. After I set my alignment, and being able to feel the face in my hands with the P2, I need to give all my attention to speed. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment
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