cnosil Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Tsecor said: jeez.....what luck....i wonder if it was humid yesterday and the balls flew further.... Log into YouTube and ask them. They are answering most questions that are asked. Los if standing (sitting in Harry’s case) around. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyD Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 this was driving my daughter nuts yesterday, which I loved. She kept hearing the swings while she tried to nap. My office is the bedroom she's in while she's visiting. I on the other hand was mesmerized by the process. GregGarner 1 Quote When my wife asked if I wanted to leave Maine and move to where she grew up, I couldn't say no to Pinehurst, NC. I honestly don't spend much money on golf equipment, but I'm constantly reading reviews in case I ever get ready to buy I swing left handed and have been the State of Maine Left Hander's champion since 1997, the last year they held the tournament. I'm currently a 7.1 handicap. Trying to get lower, but my gut gets in the way. WITB Driver: Epic speed 9 degree Irons: 990's S300 Stiff shafts bought when I was in college. (Received a personal use discount, otherwise would've stuck with my Hogan Edge's) 3 Wood: Epic speed 15 degree or PT15 52/56/60 Z Spin wedges (heck of a deal $100 for all 3 at Dick's in 2013) Putter: OG Rossie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 when i saw the data from day 1, i saw every ball lumped into a very tight circle which tells me all balls are pretty much the same off a robot.....I cant wait to see people argue over 200 rpms of spin which mean absolutely NOTHING.... if a ball takes a full minute to spin 6000 times (RPM) on a 6 iron shot, and you get spin degredation of 3% per second, you wind up with 70-80% of the spin....in those 7 seconds of ball flight, the ball isnt really spinning all that fast or all that much......im more interested in apex and decent....but from that huge cluster of color, it looks like all the balls are almost identicle. cnosil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tsecor said: when i saw the data from day 1, i saw every ball lumped into a very tight circle which tells me all balls are pretty much the same off a robot.....I cant wait to see people argue over 200 rpms of spin which mean absolutely NOTHING.... if a ball takes a full minute to spin 6000 times (RPM) on a 6 iron shot, and you get spin degredation of 3% per second, you wind up with 70-80% of the spin....in those 7 seconds of ball flight, the ball isnt really spinning all that fast or all that much......im more interested in apex and decent....but from that huge cluster of color, it looks like all the balls are almost identicle. Yep, can’t wait to see the detailed analysis. There have been mentions of high spin balls, balls that are extreme outliers, ball speed, and carry distance. Will be interesting to see if something like a Tourspeed could be a good option Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 This is probably my fav test of all that you guys do.. Love the info that comes out of it. We had to of all known refurbished balls are crap. They make a decent shag bag option and that is it.. Glad that you included them though. Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 i love this test, but i thought it would be more popular from a viewing stabdpoint. I know its boring to non gear heads, but yesterday i saw only 20 people viewing the test they should really have some live on going commentary from the data collection site and maybe a secondary camera near a green for when the wedge shots and 8-iron shots hit the green we can see how the balls react, spin and decend into the landing area....you can do so many things with this test to make it more viewer friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Tsecor said: i love this test, but i thought it would be more popular from a viewing stabdpoint. I know its boring to non gear heads, but yesterday i saw only 20 people viewing the test they should really have some live on going commentary from the data collection site and maybe a secondary camera near a green for when the wedge shots and 8-iron shots hit the green we can see how the balls react, spin and decend into the landing area....you can do so many things with this test to make it more viewer friendly. Some gear heads don’t care to sit and watch video or day and some are off being productive in their daily lives and don’t have the time or the ability to watch a live stream PMookie and russtopherb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:11 PM, RickyBobby_PR said: Some gear heads don’t care to sit and watch video or day and some are off being productive in their daily lives and don’t have the time or the ability to watch a live stream come on...what could be more important than watching a robot hit a ball every 15 seconds on youtube? cnosil and PMookie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted July 19, 2021 SPY VIP Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 3:36 PM, Tsecor said: hopefully a robot is being used for consistency purposes...... Nm243008, PMookie, GregGarner and 1 other 1 3 Quote #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, GolfSpy_X said: I love it...lol.... I really wish we had live commentary throughout the testing. Ive watched ~ 5 hours so far and while boring AF, its also very exciting....strange way to describe it but i think were all dyimng to see the results......especially since a bad shot may actually be ball related......also dying to see the chromesoft data...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted July 19, 2021 SPY VIP Share Posted July 19, 2021 Live commentary would have absolutely been cool. That said, it was all hands on deck the whole week. Unfortunately if we were not averaging about 2 balls per minute the test would not have been completed and that was our first priority. Moving forward though we plan to do some more LIVE testing stuff at the test facility and we will make sure to include some more commentary. cnosil, HeathS16, PMookie and 4 others 7 Quote #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, GolfSpy_X said: Live commentary would have absolutely been cool. That said, it was all hands on deck the whole week. Unfortunately if we were not averaging about 2 balls per minute the test would not have been completed and that was our first priority. Moving forward though we plan to do some more LIVE testing stuff at the test facility and we will make sure to include some more commentary. I for one would be very interested in that! Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I may have missed a post on this somewhere, but if they didn't take the opportunity to also test the Titleist Blind Test Balls as part of this comprehensive Ball Test - MGS missed a great opportunity. Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said: I may have missed a post on this somewhere, but if they didn't take the opportunity to also test the Titleist Blind Test Balls as part of this comprehensive Ball Test - MGS missed a great opportunity. MGS headquarters tests are primarily focused on golf products any consumer can buy at retail today. The blind test balls don’t fall into that category. russtopherb and GolfSpy TCB 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said: I may have missed a post on this somewhere, but if they didn't take the opportunity to also test the Titleist Blind Test Balls as part of this comprehensive Ball Test - MGS missed a great opportunity. Why would they test a test ball? Titleist is going to use the feedback from this as well as anyone else they sent the balls too and more than likely their tour staff and then tweak it where necessary before it goes into production if it goes into protection. russtopherb and GolfSpy TCB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 is soft slow? that is the question......:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Tsecor said: is soft slow? that is the question......:) What is soft? How do balls at the same compression compare. If you like soft is there a better soft? Nm243008, PMookie and NM01 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriverBreaker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 2:46 PM, TBT said: Which ball performs best with a massive hangover Probably the industry standard Range' ball. GregGarner and Miboy62 2 Quote Instagram: @tony_rosselli_ Training Pre training max driver speed: 124mph Current: 130mph WITB: Driver: G425 Max, 9* Woods: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood Irons: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts Wedges: SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Ball: ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, cnosil said: MGS headquarters tests are primarily focused on golf products any consumer can buy at retail today. The blind test balls don’t fall into that category. 12 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Why would they test a test ball? Titleist is going to use the feedback from this as well as anyone else they sent the balls too and more than likely their tour staff and then tweak it where necessary before it goes into production if it goes into protection. Fair comments both, and I don't disagree. I was just saying that a calibration of the test balls against the array of competitor (and their own) balls would be interesting as well useful for the tweaks. I'm sure Titleist has done their own similar testing and know exactly how these test balls perform in these categories and against competitor balls, but alas, we don't get to see that testing. More data is good data as far as I'm concerned - especially when it is independent 3rd party testing. I guess I'll wait for the 2023 Ball Test results to see how the new Titleist offerings stack up against Pinnacle range balls, and reclaimed lake balls ;). Edited July 23, 2021 by Tiftaaft cnosil 1 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Tiftaaft said: I may have missed a post on this somewhere, but if they didn't take the opportunity to also test the Titleist Blind Test Balls as part of this comprehensive Ball Test - MGS missed a great opportunity. I am sure Titleist does not need MGS to do robot testing on their balls and Titleist has tested the "blind balls" 100x over. as far as MGS goes, why test a ball that is not even out yet and may not ever reach the consumer market? Edited July 23, 2021 by Tsecor GolfSpy TCB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Tsecor said: as far as MGS goes, why test a ball that is not even out yet and may not ever reach the consumer market? Because MGS partnered with Titleist to help test the balls before they reach the consumer market. That's all. Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, Tiftaaft said: Because MGS partnered with Titleist to help test the balls before they reach the consumer market. That's all. ...gotcha....and we know Tony loves to pimp the prov1!!! with good reason i might add GolfSpy TCB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tsecor said: ...gotcha....and we know Tony loves to pimp the prov1!!! with good reason i might add agree with everything in that post Tsecor. Nm243008 1 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Tiftaaft said: Because MGS partnered with Titleist to help test the balls before they reach the consumer market. That's all. Testing a non production ball provides zero value while adding some additional time to the test as well as analysis. Just speculation but of the number of golfers who will read the ball study there’s probably a small percentage that are aware 1) that titleist has a ball currently in white box testing 2) that mgs has a forum testing in progress for that same ball. So the juice isn’t worth the squeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Testing a non production ball provides zero value while adding some additional time to the test as well as analysis. Just speculation but of the number of golfers who will read the ball study there’s probably a small percentage that are aware 1) that titleist has a ball currently in white box testing 2) that mgs has a forum testing in progress for that same ball. So the juice isn’t worth the squeeze ok Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'll just leave this here. DStar, MaxEntropy and Larryw 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nm243008 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 9:17 AM, GolfSpy_X said: Live commentary would have absolutely been cool. That said, it was all hands on deck the whole week. Unfortunately if we were not averaging about 2 balls per minute the test would not have been completed and that was our first priority. Moving forward though we plan to do some more LIVE testing stuff at the test facility and we will make sure to include some more commentary. I would volunteer my time to be a "play by play" or a "color" guy for the next test.....we could take questions from the fans and present live preliminary data during the broadcast. If you do it, im in...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 11:13 PM, KC Golf said: I like the fact they are trying “Refurbished” Pro Vs. I know they are garbage, but I would like to see how bad they really are. i just bought the new Pro Vs and will compare them to some prior version new Pro Vs and my regular gamer the Srixon Z-Star. Will be interested to see if I can tell the difference and whether it impacts my scores. I should note that I love the Srixon Z-Star. It’s a great ball. Me too. I switched from ProVs. I played a tournament this weekend and the guy I was paired with was playing Pro V1 vs. my Z-Star. I was right next to him, or just past every time. Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I can't wait to see the published results. Been following the ball labs religiously. Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 No doubt. Cant wait to see. If you are testing in AZ, let me know if you need help so we can get that live commentary next time. Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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