ShimmyCocoBop Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 After seeing how a broomstick helped Lucas Glover, I think everyone should be considering it. That poor guy couldn't hit the hole from a foot - find the video and watch it. I am so happy for him because not being able to get the ball in the hole from super-short distances was no way for a player to end their career. His self-esteem is back and still growing. I like the fact that newer broomstick heads are 500+ grams - that seems to be the biggest change. Anyone have any feedback on the heavier heads? BobBC78, ole gray and BIG STU 3 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Kelley Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 If you’ve had the yips or putting inconsistency, the broomstick is a great answer a balanced weighted version works best for me. Don’t listen to those purists that are against long or arm lock putters. Only a few play professionally, for the 99% of recreational golfers, whether you play for enjoyment or in amateur competition use what makes you better at getting the ball in the hole….conventional, belly, armlock or broomstick putter! BIG STU 1 Quote George R. Kelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 A lot has changed for me since my posts of 2 + years ago. Because of my injuries I had to go to my graphite shafted TM CBs on a permanent basis. After other members persuading me to I joined the big golf league at our course. I could not put it behind me I thrived on competition. I had worn my old 588s out and I had built a Cally PM 56* and had obtained a brand new Vokey SM5 58*. For some reason I had developed the yips putting. Between my neurosurgeon (who plays golf) we figured out that those damaged nerves in my back were acting up bending over putting. Yeah I went back to my Ping broomstick. I putt much better especially 5 feet in and do not hurt as much. I did not anchor before when I used it and I do not anchor now. I had found out in the past that if I anchored I tended to get stuck and not let the head flow through. But I have went back to it now and I am enjoying myself again and scoring better. No one in our league has questioned it and one other guy putts with one too. Really I could care less what anyone else thinks I am using it unless the damaged nerves in my back clear up. Like one of my friends and fellow members said it enables me to practice putting and playing more without pain MrMashie 1 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I watched the DP World Tour in Prague this morning and starting to see more guys there BROOMING. One guy I remember in particular had his top hand really far away from his sternum perhaps so that no one could accuse him of anchoring. I think I also saw a guy on Korn Ferry Tour yesterday BROOMING too with a putter similar to Lucas Glover's. BIG STU 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinping Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I started using a broomstick putter about 6 weeks ago just after hitting 15 greens and having 4 three putts. To be honest, I love it. My longer and short putts are better. I am actually making more 10 to 20 foot putts. I will have a hard time ever going back. BIG STU and ShimmyCocoBop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) I got tired of consistently 3 jacking an average of five per round and went back to my Odyssey Broomstick. I'm getting back in the broom mode as I ordered a LAB Mezz Max Broomstick and it won't be here for five more weeks. As for anchoring 1: I think it's total bull shat and that ban should be banned. 2: I personally hold the handle approximately 2 balls length away from any anchoring point. It actually feels uncomfortable for me to anchor so moving the putter away from my body feels more free. It frees me up to make a smooth pendulum stroke. Since I went back to my old broom my 3 putts are much rarer now than when I was putting conventional length. If the old Odyssey has me putting better just think how the LAB Putter will improve my stroke. I'm pumped, to say the least, however, the custom build takes several weeks so I have to be patient. I was fit for length at 45 with Lie at 78 degrees. I bought my old Odyssey off eBay so I have no clue what the specs are for it. One week into a six-week lead time and a lonnnnnnng way to go. Edited October 21, 2023 by ole gray MrMashie, Josh Parker, ShimmyCocoBop and 1 other 4 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Ole Gray - Your new Broom looks hella-cool! ole gray 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 21 hours ago, ShimmyCocoBop said: Ole Gray - Your new Broom looks hella-cool! Heck yea! My new putter is going to be cooler than a swamp rat with his arse stuck to the ice on a cold January day! BIG STU 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Yea still have my broomstick that I take out and practice or play a round with once in a while Its not any better than the short putter but it can free up some rigid thought about about "how one suppose to putt" Putting is more an art than a science for me As far as anchoring I dont hold the butt end to my chest when I putt and I dont have problems with others using the broomstick as long as they follow the rules If I really want to "anchor" the putter then the arm lock is the way to go ole gray, Josh Parker and BIG STU 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Haro said: Yea still have my broomstick that I take out and practice or play a round with once in a while Its not any better than the short putter but it can free up some rigid thought about about "how one suppose to putt" Putting is more an art than a science for me As far as anchoring I dont hold the butt end to my chest when I putt and I dont have problems with others using the broomstick as long as they follow the rules If I really want to "anchor" the putter then the arm lock is the way to go I putt much better with my broom. I had been running up 3 jacks with my regular putters faster than a pro counterfeiter pumping out Ben Franklins. I've had pretty much every fricking "regular putter" known to man over the last several decades. Sure I'd run through a few weeks with hot spells however consistency was never there for me. A couple of weeks ago I pulled out an old Odyssey Broom and began getting acquainted with it pending the arrival of my new LAB Mezz Max. Even back in the old days when I was gaming a Broom, I couldn't do the anchor thing. I tried but it felt like I was trying to wrestle a dry hog at the county fair. A dry hog grinds, grunts, farts, and hops around like it's got a good case of jock itch. Anchoring the putter grip against my body felt like a dry hog. Now you get ya self a greased-up hog and that sucker slips right along with a smooth flow. Just like non-anchoring a Broom Putter. No shirt, button, beer gut, or other item kinking up the flow of things. So yea the anchor rule although I thought it was a bunch of bullshat, I never could use anyways so it didn't pertain to me. The new LAB Broom is smoother than a warm slice of butter on a steaming hot ear of corn! It's miles ahead of that old Odyssey I pulled out of the closet. I changed out my grip this weekend from a Jumbo Max to a SuperStroke Golf Zenergy Tour 1.0 Grips - Two-Piece. I went out and practiced for an hour today getting ready for my three rounds this week and It's cooking with Crisco now baby! Edited November 12, 2023 by ole gray Josh Parker, BIG STU and MrMashie 3 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Ole Gray - Did you get your LAB Broom yet, and if it's not too personal, how much was it? ole gray 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) On 11/13/2023 at 11:07 AM, ShimmyCocoBop said: Ole Gray - Did you get your LAB Broom yet, and if it's not too personal, how much was it? @ShimmyCocoBop Sorry for the late reply. I paid $586.17 for my Broom and it's worth every single penny! Note - When I purchased it there was a discount available. In fact, there is another one available on November 22, 2023! When I first ordered it I mistakenly ordered with the JumboMax 21 Round grip which initially felt ok. After a couple of rounds, I decided to go with the split grip. When I went to order the LAB split grip I was told they were out for individual orders and it would be a few weeks out before they had the grips ready for shipment. Plus after doing a little research I found the cost of shipping was in the $40.00 range so I decided to go with a SuperStroke Zenergy Tour 1.0 2-Piece Grip which I purchased off Amazon with free shipping. Picture of first arrival with JumboMax 21 Round Grip Now what it looks like with my SuperStroke Grip and by the way, the weight of the two grips was minimal and didn't affect the performance in the least. In fact it feels much better to me now. I sent a video to the LAB fitter of me using my old broomstick (you can use a fairway etc. if you don't currently have a broom) to get fit. It worked at great! Length: 45 Lie: 78 Edited November 18, 2023 by ole gray BIG STU and Josh Parker 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvadorp Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Hello! I am about to buy my first broomstick putter, I have been looking at the L.A.B D.F 2.1 but can't decide on the LIE Angle. By my height 6'0 I've chosen the 46' but still waiting on a reply from L.A.B for the LIE Angle, which one would be the best choice for the lie angle? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston golfer Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 My suggestion is order it with the max upright lie allowed. Salvadorp and bens197 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballhawk Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just an FYI for using the broomstick/long putter. There are 2 IMO major aspects to using it......First, make sure the top hand is holding the club firmly, regardless of what the lower hand grip may be. I've found that if the top hand is not really firm/strong on the grip, the club will rotate enough to either close or open the face at contact. Second, most folks have a tendency on medium to long putts to hit the putt instead of stroking it. The lower hand gets strong and either pushes or pulls. Correcting those aspects and the success rate goes up greatly............ BIG STU and Salvadorp 2 Quote Total Callaway bag - except putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx1232 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Looks like Zalatoris switched to a mezz broom for the Hero World Challenge. Quote rx1232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeman Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I just watched a video from Eric Corgano that was really interesting re: the broomstick. The theory is any other bar type sports that require touch are done with one hand; pool, darts, bowling, etc. It's worth a watch. ole gray, MrMashie and br61 3 Quote Srixon Irons. Callaway woods. Vokey Wedges. ProV1x. Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Breeman said: I just watched a video from Eric Corgano that was really interesting re: the broomstick. The theory is any other bar type sports that require touch are done with one hand; pool, darts, bowling, etc. It's worth a watch. Yea, I saw that this morning too ! Good stuff. Josh Parker 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ole gray said: Yea, I saw that this morning too ! Good stuff. Interesting. ole gray 1 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Charl Schwartzel is tied for the lead in the Dunhill tournament this morning using a LAB Broom. Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamYam Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 I've got two broomhandles. A Ping B90 and a Scotty Cameron Studio, (the one with the four coloured dots) I loved them when I could play with them but now because of the anchoring ban, I only take them out in social games. I got sick of people accusing me of breaking the ridiculous rules regarding anchoring, which I was innocent of as I'd learnt how to play without anchoring. But there is a strong element still of ignorance. It would have been far better if they had not changed the rules, which effectively made the putters obsolete. I don't think they ever proved that broomhandles or bell putters were any better than conventional putters. The statistics certainly didn't stand up. They were a saviour for me at the time. I had a bad back and if it weren't for the style of the putting stroke needed I would have had to have curtailed the length of my practice sessions. The rules still allow disabled players to use them, but if you are an ageing less abled, but otherwise fit, its one rule for one and one rule for another. When I spoke to a guy who is/was a member of the R&A Rules Committee about older less abled golfers and the fact that the effective ban would push these long standing players into the long grass, his exact response was "f**k 'em, we can do without them!". I think most people would agree that is an appalling attitude. BIG STU and z1ggy16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1ggy16 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Will MGS be testing broomstick vs traditional? This is borderline fad territory with how popular it's getting but Sam from LAB really does seem to believe in it, although they cost more so I'm not sure if they profit more from these sales. The video with Eric about doing finesse type of things with one hand vs two actually makes a lot of sense to me. Quote Tsr2 Ventus TR Blue Tsi3 Ventus TR Blue Tsr2 Ventus TR Blue 0211 ST 4-GW Axiom 125 Mizuno T22 Flat stick - who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 7:41 AM, ole gray said: Charl Schwartzel is tied for the lead in the Dunhill tournament this morning using a LAB Broom. Ole Gray - How are you liking your new LAB Broom? Any specs you can share? Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Love it, adore it, treasure it, and slobber kisses on it during every round! Mine is platinum at 45 length and 78 lie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk cnosil and BIG STU 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, ole gray said: Love it, adore it, treasure it, and slobber kisses on it during every round! Mine is platinum at 45 length and 78 lie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry, I meant - any statistics that you can share? How has it improved your putting? ole gray 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Sorry, I meant - any statistics that you can share? How has it improved your putting?I don”t have a shot tracker such ad Arccos etc. however I did keep track on my score card for three rounds. I had 24, 26, and a high of 30 putts on those rounds. I had a zero three putts during the first two rounds and two in the third. Those two were from poor reads on super fast greens. Prior to going to the broom I was averaging five three putts per round with total putt counts in the mid 30s and up. I’ll keep putting stats for this week’s three rounds although the weather may hamper play. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk BIG STU 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Thanks! ole gray 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 43 minutes ago, ShimmyCocoBop said: Thanks! Yout bet! Are you considering a broomstick? Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ole gray said: Yout bet! Are you considering a broomstick? I've been using one since July, but now am thinking about a LAB Mezz like yours. Did you fit yourself? ole gray 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShimmyCocoBop said: I've been using one since July, but now am thinking about a LAB Mezz like yours. Did you fit yourself? I did the video fitting which worked great for me Edit to add I was using an old Odyssey Dual Force II Broom before the Mezz Max came on the scene and the difference between those two is night and day. Better distance control and the the Mezz puts a much smoother roll on the ball which keeps it online. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited December 16, 2023 by ole gray BIG STU 1 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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