cksurfdude Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 13 hours ago, Hacker60521 said: This reminds me of when I met some amateur open wheel guys at Laguna Seca. They would run laps on some video racing game of the course they would be competing at just to get a feel for things. 11 hours ago, JAYER38 said: This is actually how I train for tracks/racing when out of the seat for a bit... Wow way off topic but did you guys read about an F1 Sim arcade opening in Boston? Now that could be *fun*!! ... ..and back on topic yeah my golf game still not good... Rob Person and JAYER38 2 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 hours ago, WilliamYates said: I really appreciate all of you low handicappers giving us the truth behind what got you there. For those that are single digits, was it a big jump to your current handicap or was it a slow process over years of slight improvements? ... For me at least, it was a slow steady improvement. But there were jumps when I accomplished something really important. I'd say the biggest jump came when I started flighting my wedges. I had been taking full swings and when I learned to hit 3/4 and 1/2 wedges with a lower trajectory that was a pretty big leap for me and I dropped several strokes pretty quickly. Fwiw, I didn't start playing golf til I was 35 so plenty of time to improve for every age. Rob Person, cksurfdude, Hacker60521 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker60521 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 10 hours ago, cksurfdude said: Wow way off topic but did you guys read about an F1 Sim arcade opening in Boston? Now that could be *fun*!! ... ..and back on topic yeah my golf game still not good... Where in Boston?! cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: Stealth2 3W: Stealth2 4H: Stealth 2 Irons 4I-9I: T200 Wedges P, 48: T200 Wedges 54, 58: Vokey SM9 Putter: O Works #1 Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 15 hours ago, WilliamYates said: For those that are single digits, was it a big jump to your current handicap or was it a slow process over years of slight improvements? For me it was a big initial jump and then slow progress over years. The big initial jump was from lessons. I was scoring in the mid to upper 80s and after a couple of lessons I beat my best score by 5 strokes and scored in the 70s. Better ball contact and swing gave me the initial big jump. then things like course management and better understand how to play the game started another drop. Age and a diminishing short game caused my handicap to start going up again and lots of work on the short game has started my handicap dropping again. But as your handicap gets lower the drops become smaller and more difficult to achieve....meaning going from 20 to 15 is typically easier than 10 to 5 or 5 to 0. cksurfdude and JAYER38 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley24 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 One small thing that took my game from average to good was timing of tempo. I was always taught to swing slow, but when do you start swinging fast? I’m a former baseball player so the over the top slice is something I’m always fighting against. AMG really got me to understand that the first and last quarter of the swing are the only parts of the swing that should be ballistic. When the club is above your waist it should be syrupy. This has helped me substantially to be able to hit a push draw and not a pull slice. cksurfdude 1 Quote Taylormade R9 9 degree Taylormade R9 3 Wood Taylormade R9 5 Wood Nike blades 4-P Titleist Vokey Sm6 50 Taylormade Milled Grind 56, 60 Ping Ally/ Oddessey Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley24 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 One small thing that took my game from average to good was timing of tempo. I was always taught to swing slow, but when do you start swinging fast? I’m a former baseball player so the over the top slice is something I’m always fighting against. AMG really got me to understand that the first and last quarter of the swing are the only parts of the swing that should be ballistic. When the club is above your waist it should be syrupy. This has helped me substantially to be able to hit a push draw and not a pull slice. Quote Taylormade R9 9 degree Taylormade R9 3 Wood Taylormade R9 5 Wood Nike blades 4-P Titleist Vokey Sm6 50 Taylormade Milled Grind 56, 60 Ping Ally/ Oddessey Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 12 hours ago, Hacker60521 said: Where in Boston?! Not sure but if you Google "F1 Arcade Boston" it should show you Hacker60521 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overspark07 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 10 hours ago, Riley24 said: AMG really got me to understand that the first and last quarter of the swing are the only parts of the swing that should be ballistic. AMG? Is this Athletic Motion Golf? cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley24 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Overspark07 said: AMG? Is this Athletic Motion Golf? Yes. Just learning from their YouTube channel has been the most helpful source for me. cksurfdude 1 Quote Taylormade R9 9 degree Taylormade R9 3 Wood Taylormade R9 5 Wood Nike blades 4-P Titleist Vokey Sm6 50 Taylormade Milled Grind 56, 60 Ping Ally/ Oddessey Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferguy2727 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Long journey for me. My greatest year was 2022. Got down to 8.3 index and felt like I could certainly get lower. I had previously done lessons (structured and ad hoc) and nothing stuck. So I did the Golftec thing. I had been using Arccos and then Shotscope since 2017 so I knew the areas that I needed to improve from the data. The GolfTec approach, for me, was also all about data. And what was weird - there was not one thing that got me to 8.3 - it was mostly the confidence to know that I could make good enough swings - I had done so thousands of times in GolfTec and related practice. The data from arccos and shotscope also showed me that I was a far better putter than I thought so I was able to redistribute my practice effort to approach shots which is my bonafide weakness. But that journey cost me a time of time and a lot of money. Fast forward to last year- winter of lessons and I’m super primed to “go lower”. Played 7 or 8 early season rounds and was playing well but getting progressively uncomfortable feet - so bad I had to stop playing. Plantar fasciitis…. Physio and exercises keep me out of the game until late summer . When I got back, I played another 15 rounds and was so completely lost again - golf and I broke up. It was astonishing to work so hard and devote so much time and money for it only to be a temporary thing, it seems. About a year later to the day we broke up, I started practicing again - and it was awful. Hitting good shots surrounded by sheer disaster shots. Finally got out and played a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it. Played better than expected (84) but it was simply a joyous event to be back on the course. About another 10 practice sessions and played again last Friday. Awful, even though my data wasn’t bad and I managed some majestically beautiful shots. Could not score (shot 95) or stop the bleeding to save my life. The difference - absolutely no sense of confidence whatsoever. So my journey back to confidence begins, but I confess, having to go through my original improvement journey all over again was a shocking outcome for me. I still remain a 10.7 index but that will soon shot to 12, 13, 15 by end of season on my current pattern if i play any reasonable volume of rounds before Toronto snow appears. So my plan - get back to confidence. Through structured positive- intention practice. But try again to love the highlights and forget the “others”. That said, I’m not sure I can continue this journey again. After breaking up with golf, I discovered the many hours I previously needed for golf improvement could be used for so many different things. Many of them truly pleasant and fewer that seem that punch me constantly in the kidneys as golf prefers to do (it seems). wish me luck and wish it back to you Enjoy the journey to whatever YOUR great is - when it’s good, it’s a wondrous journey. cksurfdude 1 Quote Titleist T300 (2022) 5-PW, W48, W53 plus Taylormade Full Face 56 SW Current driver Titleist TSi3 Hybrids Titleist 818 19 H2 23 H2 Gamer Putter Nike Method Matters B1-07 Ball Titleist Tour Speed / Taylormade Tour Response Bag is Titleist Linksmaster Pushcart is Kaddey Rangefinder is Voice Caddie SL2 Shotscope club tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckpillar Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Practice your short game, getting up and down is vital to anyone's golf game and will save strokes. cksurfdude and PrayingForPar 2 Quote Jeff "PUTSO" Pillar buckpillar@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopBoy3 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 For me it was getting in lots of swings. If you are consistent and "know" the ball is going to go where you want it to things are so much more relaxed and confident. I was never a long hitter so accuracy was my strong point. As mentioned previously, short game is very important but usually comes with the high amount of swings/practice. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdewispelare Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Changing practice focus to 70% short game, 20% full shots, 10% putting. Like most, I used to practice 70% driver, 25% irons, 5% putting (usually pre-round practice green). Seeing how many shots occur inside 100 yards helped me see how many shots I could save just by hitting those shots better. Went from upper 90s to upper 80s pretty quick. Approach game was the next thing to get some work, grooving a consistently reliable strike and shot shape with irons (specifically 160y & in). Bringing greens hit closer to 50% dropped me to low-mid 80s. Anything under 80 is gravy for me, but any extra strokes saved typically go as my putter goes for the round. cksurfdude and chisag 2 Quote Epic Flash SZ (9* Xstiff) C720 15* FW (stiff) 588 20.5* 3h MP58 4-PW (std. specs) RTX3 60*,56*,52* Prairie Golf milled blade Z-Star Omaha, NE 9 HC, Righty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyPutter Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, APKTEcheeee said: I would like to comment that my response was to TriciaLee532212 who made the post that is shown in this Quoted reply as the only text visible. The whole reply is shown below and I also noticed previously that the original post by @TriciaLee532212 no longer shows and that account does not appear to exist any longer. @APKTEcheeee welcome into the forum and congratulations on your first posts, hope you discover the forum community here is more of a friendly place than others on the WWW. Looking forward to seeing more of your posts. Edited September 1 by EasyPutter cksurfdude 1 Quote Derek Verified Hack, ~21 handicap Golf for exercise and peace of mind. WITB (Lots of Links in the signature) |> Big Dogs: Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Max D (10.5), Tommy Armour TA1 3h (19), Ginty Trouble Club (29) |> Blades: First StrikeTM DeliveranceTM 4(23) 5(26) 6(29) 7(33) 8(37) 9(41) P(45) |> Chipper: Orlimar Escape (37) |> Wedges: Worx (55) Lovett (59) |> Flatstick: L.A.B. Golf DF2.1 C130 Supercharged 3.5+ Q6 Slope Premium MGS Logo Ball mark IGBRC International Golf Ball Rescue Commission / Founder Graduate/Mentor "The World's Greatest Golf Club Without The Course" Member #334 Tester It's all lies I tell you, everywhere the golf ball comes to rest! If it wasn't for inconsistency, I would have no consistency in my game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaskanski Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Discipline. Some have it - some don't. Some make up for that with naturual talent, but without the first component, they rarely make the 'great' grade. YMMV cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I’m still waiting. In all seriousness my driving has improved by quite a bit. For me it was a lesson and regular practice as well as doing the drills from my instructor. When I get lazy and don’t do the practice, I notice a fall off. cksurfdude 1 Quote Anyday Maverick Black Ops 7-way 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Fujikura Motore X F3 0211 Hybrid 3 19° w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue 70 Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 DF3 w/BGT Stability ONE Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test Pro V1 3.5+ Tests No Longer in the Bag ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 7 hours ago, EasyPutter said: that account does not appear to exist any longer. Looking forward to seeing more of your posts. The accounts you are referencing are SPAM accounts and making links to Android APK files. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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