Final Reviews: Evnroll V-Series Putters

I would like to thank My Golf Spy and Evnroll for the opportunity to be a tester for one of the new V series putters.  I will be testing a 34” Evnroll ER11v with the long plumber neck. I have a slight arc to my putting stroke.  I have been an off and on golfer since my mid-20s, after getting out of the Army in the late 80s. I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area and grew up across the street from a golf course, but I never played the game as a kid. I once came home from school to find a broken bedroom window and a golf ball on my bed. That golf course was Sharp Park Golf Course in Pacifica, CA. It was designed by Alister MacKenzie. The first course I ever played a full 18 holes on though was Harding Park. That was well before it was managed by the Arnold Palmer Company and before it became a TPC site.

My professional life started in the US Army where I was trained to maintain and repair medical equipment. I got out of the army and joined a medical imaging equipment manufacturer where I worked for 31 years. That company had moved me all over the U.S. My first move took me from California to Connecticut for several years. It was in CT that I recorded my one and only eagle. It was in league play, and it was a pitch in on a par 5 on the 9^th hole at Grassy Hills Country Club in Orange, CT. Work then moved back across country to the Seattle area. There were several courses I enjoyed playing in Washington. Walter Hall in Everett, WA was my home course. In 2018, my wife and I moved cross country again to be closer to family. This time to Central New York, just outside of Syracuse. In 2019 my job changed and joined the ranks of semi-retirement which now allows me more regular golf, weather permitting as I am fair weather golfer.

My current home course is Radisson Greens in Baldwinsville, NY. It is an 18-hole par 72 course at 6360 yards from the white tees. The course was designed by Robert Trent Jones, Sr. I purchased a Monday through Thursday membership there this year and I get out a couple of times a week weather permitting. The course is very challenging, but I love the layout. It is tree lined and tight in spots. I do have an uncanny knack for finding trees especially on hole number 5 and water on hole number 3.

I do not have a handicap, other than my swing. I generally shoot around 100. Most recently I have seen improvements in my putting and wedge play. My real struggle has been off the tee. The “How’d You Play” section of the forum has me looking at my game more closely. Reading the posts of others has inspired me to pay more attention to all aspects of my game.

I play golf because I enjoy being out walking the course and if good scores come than it is a bonus. I also am an equipment junkie. I remember reading Golf Equipment Magazine (one of those paper things that was out before the internet ). If I had the means, I would probably be a putter collector. I just love the aesthetics of good golf equipment design which explains why I installed BB&F Co. Valentina ferrules on my irons. I also have a small collection of third party designed headcovers, mostly Rose & Fire with a couple of Scotty Cameron’s thrown in for good measure.

On the equipment front, my first set of clubs was a Wilson box set with wooden woods. From there my bag make up has changed but my woods have seen the most changes. I have rotated through a lot of TaylorMade Divers and fairway woods, but I eventually switched to Ping. My Ping G400 Max was the first time I was fitted for a club, and I have yet to find a reason to change it. My iron history is small starting with Dunlop DDH II, TaylorMade Super Steel, Ping G25 (I won these through work) which brings me to my current set of PXG 0211. The PXG clubs entered my bag mostly because of price. The For Heroes Program PXG offers was just too good of a deal to pass up. The PXG 0341 3 wood is the best performing 3 wood I have ever had in my bag. My wedges have either been Cleveland or Callaway. My putter history was primarily Anser style putters. They include two TaylorMade putters the last being the Rossa Daytona 1. I gamed Odyssey Metal X Milled #2 but I did not like the feel of it. It was a My Golf Spy review and Most Wanted win that led me to trying Evnroll putters for the first time. I ended up with a mallet putter for the first time when I purchased the ER7. I was initial attract to the idea of a higher MOI putter but really like the feel and consistency of the roll the ER7 gave me. I am also a member of the “Pushcart Mafia” with a Clicgear 3.5+ pushcart.

What’s in my bag?

Bag: TaylorMade Supreme Hybrid Stand Bag

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5°

Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 5.5

Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams

3 Wood: PXG Gen 1 0341 15°

Shaft: Project X EvenFlow Blue 5.5

Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams

Utility: New Level Golf 18° Utility Iron

Shaft: Mitsubishi Kura Kage Black 70IR S-Flex

Hybrid: Ping G30 19°

Shaft: Ping TFC 419H Regular Flex

Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams

Ping G410 Crossover 4

Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Regular Flex

Grip: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Teams

Irons: PXG 0211 5 – GW

Shafts: True Temper Elevate 95 w/VSS Regular Flex

Grip: PXG Lamkin Z5

Wedge: Callaway Mack Daddy CB 54°/14° W Grind 

Shafts: KBS 105 Hi Rev 2.0 Wedge Flex

Grip: Callaway Golf Pride SG-1

Putter:  Evnroll ER7 34”

Grip: Evnroll non-taper 1.2

Pushcart:

Clicgear 3.5+

Rangefinder:

Mileseey PF210

Bushnell NEO Ion GPS watch

Ball:

Kirkland Signature 3 piece

 

July 14, 2021 - First Taste

I ventured out to the practice green at a local course, Hickory Hill, for my first putts out of my basement with the ER11v. I also brought my current gamer, ER7,  to do some quick comparisons.

I putted a bit to get a feel for the green then proceeded to using the Strokes Gained Putting system developed by Columbia Business School professor, Mark Broadie for MGS. Initial impressions. I prefer the look of alignment aids on the ER11v over the ER7. I prefer the sound and feel of the ER7. As for the strokes gained numbers, that will have to wait. 

 

I will be taking the ER11v out for round tomorrow. More to come

July 15, 2021 - First Time on the Course

The putter performed really well for me for the first time out. I played a quick 9 and was most pleased. I had four 1 putts, including a 15 footer on number 9. There was only one disaster hole. I would attribute that to operator error. I total misread and I pulled the putt to boot. I ordered a Joby Gorilla Pod to take videos on the course which will arrive on July 16th. 

 

Not gonna lie. I love the way this putter looks.

 

Stage Two – Evnroll V Series Putters – Official MGS Forum Review by @MattWillGolf

 

Intro

I tested this putter on the course, on a PuttOUT mat in my basement and on the practice green. On the practice green I used the Strokes Gained Putting system developed by Columbia Business School professor, Mark Broadie. I did this over several sessions on the green to compare the ER11v with my current gamer, the ER7. Both putters are 34-inch mallets having a high MOI. The ER11v head weighs 365 grams and the ER7 is 370 grams.

Looks (10 out of 10 points) 

The putter I tested was a 34” ER11v. It is a mallet putter with a long putter neck designed for a putting stroke with a slight arc. I found the graphics to add to the shelf appeal. I really liked the black head with silver weights. The design is very clean at address. I found the alignment aids, a single dot and 2 lines along the length of head to be complementary and really focused me at address. The rear of the putter is slightly framed at address. I am very pleased with the design. The black anodized head, simple neck, black shaft, and black Tour Tac Grip really come together to make a putter that for me inspired confidence. The putter’s appearance is what initially attracted me to choosing this putter. I like the looks much better than my current putter. As I have had this putter in my bag, I am noticing some wear marks on the anodized black finish. I generally remove the putter cover on the first green and store during the round.

 Sound & Feel (9 out of 10 points)

 The ER11v “feels” sharper at contact and the sound is something I would describe as crisp. It reminds if a rap of the knuckle on a very solid wooden door. There is a noticeable difference when compared to my ER7. I prefer the sound of the ER7. But honestly if I didn’t have the ER7 to compare it too I would probably give the score here a 10. I conducted a feel test between the 2 putters. I donned a pair of noise canceling headphones and turned up the volume and played R.E.M.’s Eponymous album. Then proceed to hit a series of putts. I could detect no difference in feel. So, for me the only difference is sound. I won’t label the sound of the ER11v as bad. I simply prefer the softer sound of the ER7. This is chalk up to the 303 stainless steel vs. anodized 6061 aluminum. I thought the sound would bother me a little more on the course but when the putts started falling, I forgot about the sound. This putter has far better than sound and feel than one of my previous putters, the Odyssey Metal X Milled #2.

 Basic Characteristics (20 out of 20 points)

 I gave the ER11v a workout on my PuttOUT mat. I found little difficulty with distance control and accuracy. This putter as with my ER7 are very stable. I also found that the alignment lines on the putter were great help in keeping the putter on path. I used Craftsman Laser as an alignment line as well as the lines on the putting mat. On the course I still have issues reading putts and there is nothing a putter can do to help that, but I can say that on the course putts go where directed. The size of the head gives me confidence in sing the putter from the fringe or out of the rough. The putter’s forgiveness is excellent as it is with my ER7. The “Sweet Face” Technology was something I wanted test a bit further, so I performed a mini strokes gained test at 3 points on the face. Instead of comparing putters I compared face positions. I called them “Left”, “Center”, and “Right”. I used the alignment aids as centering for each segment of the face. The center of the face offered 2.4 stokes gained over the left and center positions. Take that for what its worth given my putting skills. The TourTac Grip feels nice, and it appears to be a bit smaller than the grip on my ER7.

 

 

On-Course Performance (30 out of 30 points)

 When I was selected to do this test, I started keeping putting stats as I played each round before receiving the ER11v for testing. I generally play 9 holes a couple of times a week. With rounds leading up to testing I got on the course 8 times, and I averaged 16.875 putts per nine holes. With the test ER11v I was only able to get out 6 times with my back acting up. For those six rounds I averaged 16.667 putts per round. I honestly didn’t expect a great deal of difference between the two Evnroll putters. But I can report that on the course I did make more longer putts with the ER11v. The one putt that really stood out was one from the fringe that was over 30 feet. The looks of the ER11v inspired confidence. I often use a putter when close to the green from rough depending on the lie.

 I performed the Strokes Gained Test on four different occasions on two different practice greens in my area. As the test is described I putted out five times each from 5 feet, 10 feet, and 20 feet with both the Evnroll ER7 and ER11v.  

 With testing I found that my overall average for the two putters from 5 feet 1.55 putts, from 10 feet was 1.7 putts and from 20 feet was 2.05 putts. For the same distances the ER7 averaged 1.6 putts at 5 ft., 1.7 putts at 10 feet and 2.1 putts at 20 feet. The ER11v averaged 1.5 putts at 5ft, 1.7 putts at 10 and 2.0 putts at 20 feet. For 18 holes the Strokes Gained Potential was 1.2 strokes in favor of the ER11v.

 

Miscellaneous (8 out of 10 points)

The design of the putter had an added feature that I disregarded at first but found it to be most useful on the practice green. This feature will be greatly appreciated by those of us afflicted with less than perfect backs. The ER11v has a circular cut out perfect for retrieving balls off the green. The packaging was simple and my putter arrived safely. Maybe a bit more packaging to keep the club more secure would be nice. My point of reference is PXG and Callaway. I really like the design of the ER11 V Series head cover, but I do miss the ball marker that was part of the ER7 head cover. The ER11 head cover mimics the looks of the putter down to the silver embroidery that mimics the putter’s weights. The magnetic closure works well, and the lining is nice and soft. This cover will cause me to put my 3^rd party Velcro head cover in the drawer as I have gotten so used to the magnetic closure. My area of concern though is with the durability of the anodized finish as I am starting to see some wear marks on some of corners and edges.

  

 

Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20 points)

 I will keep this simple. This putter is staying in my bag. It will be replacing my ER7. This checks all the boxes on the course. The looks and feel inspire confidence. I have sunk the longest putts I have ever sunk with this putter. I use it from the fringe and rough depending on the lie. The mass of the putter gives the confidence to get through the ball. The only issues I have on the greens are not from the putter but are with my greens reading ability. This putter goes where its aimed. Given the neck options offered by Evnroll, there is version of the ER11v for any stroke arc. And they offer an arm lock version as well. I was sold on the face technology long before this putter arrived. If you prefer a mallet then this one is highly recommended.  

 Conclusion

Thanks to My Golf Spy for this opportunity. It was fun to try something new and get a bit out of my comfort zone. Thanks to my fellow testers for your posts that planted seeds in my head on the test process as it was my first. @fixyurdivot for the example of the strokes gained table. I was struggling with how to get that across in my review. And thanks Evnroll for such a great putter to test. Well before this test was announced the ER11v caught my eye. And from my perspective it met all my expectations. This was a difficult comparison in that I was sold on the Evnroll “Sweet Face” technology with my ER7 going into this test. Both putters are mallets and the only differentiator for me was looks. I do like that the V Series has multiple neck options that support virtually any putting stroke. Evnroll now offers custom paint fill as a purchasable option. I must say I would have enjoyed putting a personal touch on my putter with some orange replacing the red. I am a San Francisco Giants fan after all . If you are in the market for a new putter Evnroll needs to be on your short list. And if you want a high MOI mallet then the ER11v should be at the top meriting a look.

 

Final Score: 97 out of 100

Update 9/12/2021

I decided to switch back to my Evnroll ER7. I believe in the Sweet Face Technology but this was purely because of the sound. The firm, crisp, click just threw me off. I played my first 9 hole round today since switching back and recorded 14 putts over the 9 holes with 2 one putts and the rest were 2 putts with zero 3 putts this included a chip in for par on the first hole.   

Update 2/12/2022

The winter months have me putting in the basement. I broke the ER11v again. It’s been rolling really well and I’m not as put off by the sound. I definitely like alignment aids on the back of the mallet. Which begs the question, how often to golfers switch between putters?

 

Evnroll ER5v Introduction

 Howdy! I am Corbin Jeffs from College Station, Texas, and I will be getting married in September this year.

I really appreciate Mygolfspy and Evnroll for giving me the opportunity to test the ER5v. For the last 2 years, I have managed a Commercial Driving Academy, and recently transitioned doing it for the local college. I started playing golf almost 10 years ago, and started at the same course I am now back as a member at, The Golf Club at Texas A&M. I served in the US Army, and now I volunteer to help coach the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets (future Military Officers) golf team. Although I coach more than I play, I really enjoy helping young students with the challenges of golf and as they are maturing into young adults. I have started working on my game again, my goal was to get below a 5 handicap by the end of 2021 and I have been as low as 6.6, so let’s see if this putter and the work I am going to put in on the practice green will get me there.

 

I came to Mygolfspy because of these forum reviews, mainly the Superspeed reviews, and because of the success the testers had I bought the set. It transformed my game and I improved so much. So I always will test in hopes others can make informed decisions to improve their game, as I have made in my own. In my bag, I recently added the Cobra Radspeed Driver because of the massive distance gains helping lower my spin. I am averaging over 20 yards longer over the Ping G410 LST. I have the Sim Max 3 wood, which I use primarily off the tee. The biggest change to my bag is I replaced my 3 and 4 irons with the TSi2 18* and Ping G410 22* hybrids, and I am so much more confident hitting greens from a long ways away. I have the 639 CB/MB combo set from Sub70, and they are probably what gets noticed the most in my bag. My Mizuno T20 wedges have been really solid for me this year. The final slot has been the putter I have the most confidence in that I have ever used so far, the Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with Triple Track, so this should be a great head to head battle.

Driving and putting are the two strengths of my game, so when I was announced with this opportunity I was excited. I have always been drawn to blade style putters, but a year ago when I went through a putter fitting it was suggested I use a mallet, and I have not gone back to a blade since that day. I have used Scotty Cameron, Ping, Taylormade, and Evnroll.

I have a slower tempo, with a slight arc to my stroke. I like to run my putts in with some speed on the short ones, but on longer putts I tend to leave short. My miss is typically a pull to the left. Since using the Odyssey 2 Ball, I am confident in short and mid-range putts, and honestly probably make more than I should according to my buddy. My lag putting cannot be blamed on the putter, and I have improved, but some added confidence in the longer putts would be amazing.

My first impression of the ER5v, is everything I hoped it would be, and more. I have always like this style of head shape, and but the way Evnroll cuts away from the topline into the hatchback/ fang area really frames it well at address. The nearest store that carries Evnroll for me is 90 miles, and when selected I drove there to test the different hosels, could not test it with the ER5v, because those do not stay in stock very long. For me it was between the short slant and short plumber, and I went with the short plumber’s neck. I really liked the way it sat at address, and I was more comfortable with it in my stroke. They had a perfect practice mat at the store and I was rolling putts in with ease with the short plumber’s neck. I was torn on what grip I was going to choose, and ultimately I went with the Gravity Grip. It is much bigger than what I am used to, but I did like how I felt squarer while trying the different styles. I ended up choosing the ER5v, 35 inch Short Plumber with the Gravity Grip. 

One thing Evnroll claims that I am really looking forward to testing head to head is the Sweet Face Technology. I have had the Evnroll ER2 in the bag and loved it. I am no robot, but I will do my best to test the groove technology, the 2 dot system on breaking putts, and test to the best of my ability on the distance control on off centered putts. I am also, going to put it head to head against my Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S Triple Track on distances of 5, 10, and 20 feet and keep track of my make percentages and 3 putts from those distances. I will also, using my Puttout Gates, and I have a yard stick and see which one will stay on line better. To earn a spot in my bag will be tough over the 2 Ball Ten, it has been really good for me. Although, if the ER5v can limit my 3 putts, and if it can somehow find a way to hole more putts I will gladly put it in the bag. If you have any other requests of what you would like to see tested just let me know. I am really looking forward to this test! 

 

STAGE TWO- EVNROLL V- SERIES PUTTER

OFFICIAL REVIEW BY CJEFFS12

 

Intro-

Let me start off by saying this was by far the most fun and work I have done in a review so far.  I spent a lot of hot, sweaty humid days down here in Texas, on the Golf Club at Texas A&M’s practice greens.  With that said I am so appreciative of this opportunity to have tested the Evnroll ER5v with short Plumbers Neck.  I kept track of the numbers from distances of 5,10, and 20 feet from 5 spots around a hole. I also, tested it on a ruler to check on how it does staying on my target line, and I also tested to the best of my ability strike location and the groove technology. I also kept track of how many putts I had per round as I played.

LOOKS (10 out of 10)-

I went with the ER5v which is the Hatchback model, or fang style, and this is by far my favorite looking putter. One thing that really stands with the Evnroll over other heads I have seen in this style, is how defined the lines are on the head. It looks like it is carved, not just one flowing piece. With the topline cut in a way that where they cut down the fangs, and it looks like two separate parts. This really helped me with alignment because it is a square bar, and made it easy to know when it was square at address. Another great feature was the back cutout was the moon shape between the tip of the fangs. It created an almost mirror effect with the golf ball to aide in center strike and setup. I really like the way that the head sits with regards to the hosel, it just really looked proper to my eye. The fangs were a good length, not too long like some I have seen, and with the inside part was cut in straight lines and defined it created an almost railroad effect. The two lines would create parallel lines along my target line, which helped me aim. The defined lines that make this putter look so amazing, make aligning and aiming this putter so easy.

SOUND AND FEEL (6 out of 10)-

For the last year I have had an insert putter, and maybe more muted sounding. The Envroll was very tingy sounding, almost like I was putting with a tin can or can of soup. I thought it was because I was using a firm golf ball, Pro V1x, so I bought some Pro V1, and it was the same. I do feel the sweet spot strikes were a bit better sounding than off center strikes.  It is not offensive to me, but sounds is the hardest thing for me to explain due to my reduced hearing in my left ear. The feel for me was just as I like, solid. I never felt like I had any balls jump off the face, and I could easily tell where I struck on the face. This was every evident when I did the strike test, and never once did I have a question when I was getting the toe and heel strikes.  When I did hit one off center I could tell where on the face I struck it, but I did not feel like the putter face would twist. It was very stable, and very forgiving, which is where The ER5v really stood out when it comes to my putting numbers, and how confident I would become with this putter. There was one round I felt like every putt was going to fall even on my dreaded downhill right breaking putts.  

 

BASIC CHARACTERISTICS (19 out of 20)-

I said in my introduction, that I thought it was going to be hard to beat the Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with Triple Track, as it is a really good putter for me. Yet, the Evnroll ER5v, is an outstanding putter for me. When it comes to accuracy, throughout the week at night, I will putt on my mat and put down a 4 foot ruler to check start line and if I can roll it straight. I kept track of 100 putts and with the Evnroll I had made it all the way off on 96, and with the Odyssey I made it all the way off on 92. I also, track of 100 putts from 5 spots around a hole from 5 10 and 20 feet. I kept track of make percentage, number of 3 putts from each distance, I also include PGA make percent just so I can keep myself in check. Obviously I am on a putting green, but before I saw these stats I really thought they made way more than the average. Here was my results…

 

EVNROLL TESTING TRACKER
DISTANCE		MAKE		ATTEMPT		PERCENT MADE		PGA MAKE %		3 PUTTS
5 FOOT		84		100		84%		80%		0
10 FOOT		41		100		41%		41%		0
20 FOOT		12		100		12%		13%		1
ODYSSEY 2 BALL TEN TRIPLE TRACK S
DISTANCE	MAKE		ATTEMPT		PERCENT MADE		PGA MAKE %		3 PUTTS
5 FOOT	77		100		77%		80%		0
10 FOOT	33		100		33%		41%		0
20 FOOT	9		100		9%		13%		6

 

There were several days where I felt like I couldn’t miss with the Evnroll from 5 feet. To me where the Evnroll really stood out to me was at 20 feet, and how consistently close my balls were finishing to the hole compared to the 2 Ball Ten. It shows in the number of 3 putts I had with the 2 ball compare to the Er5v. I really had to grind on some putts coming back with the 2 Ball Ten, but with the Er5v I had so many tap ins or inside 3 feet putts I hardly stressed when I was on the 20 footers with it. Which leads me to the Strike/ Groove Technology test between the two models. I was torn on how I wanted to test the strike test, Evnroll has a great video of robot testing and how well the groove technology works. I am far from a robot, and if this technology was going to work it needs to work on my free swing. So, I would address putts out the middle, off the toe and off the heel. I was surprised on how difficult it was to purposely miss-hit it a putt.

CENTER STRIKE TEST EVNROLL

ODYSSEY CNETER STRIKE TEST

EVNROLL TOE STRIKE TEST

ODYSSEY TOE STRIKE TEST

EVNROLL HEEL STRIKE TEST 

ODYSSEY HEEL STRIKE TEST

On the miss-hits is where I noticed the Evnroll shined and the Odyssey struggled. Even on miss hits the Evnroll would tend to be inside the length of the putter, but for the 2 Ball Ten S there would be atleast one per group that would finish outside the length of the putter. I used the Evnroll every time so show a consistent representation for distance around the hole. This confirms what I was seeing from the 20 foot test, and how well I was able to not 3 putt with the Evnroll due to it really holding its line and consistently finishing around the hole.

ON COURSE PERFORMANCE (28 out of 30)-

I was able to get the ER5v, out on the course quite a bit. At first, I was not sure if I wanted to take a wedge out of the bag and still bring the 2 Ball Ten S out as well. I did not, I only took the ER5v, and it never came out the bag since. In my 20 rounds before the ER5v, I was averaging 34.1 putts per round, in the rounds I had with the ER5v I averaged 31.6. I even had one round with no 3 putts!! I found that I could be more aggressive with my lines and speed, which in turn helped me sink more putts especially in key moments of my matches with my buddies. The ER5v, even helped me sink a huge birdie putt to win a match. It was so good one day, my buddies laughed about not allowing the ER5v in our money matches. Where I struggled at first with the Er5v, was putts on the fringe. Yes, I am from Texas, but I don’t use the Texas wedge all that often. I wanted to use the putter as often as I could, and in as many situations as I could. I had a 20 foot putt for eagle, with the first 5 feet through the fringe, and I embarrassingly left it well short. I noticed that I had to hit it noticeably more firm when on the fringe, and I improved a lot with those shots after that moment. I think it is because it starts rolling on the ground almost instantly, and I practiced it more after that putt. It was a learning moment, and now I have a new shot to use on the course. Overall, this putter has saved me 3 shots a round on the green, and it is very surprising due to my horrendous ball striking during this test, and I will keep posting as I get more rounds under the belt. I am very optimistic as I am working with the pro on my ball striking, that my handicap will go down. Swing changes are hard lol. When asked about how my impressions on Evnroll, and my opinion on the direction they should go moving forward, I would say I am impressed. I have used Evnroll before, but I did not get along with a face balanced model. I hope they will never go away from the groove technology, nor the added hosels of the V-series. They are game changers, and I do believe I will be an Evnroll customer as long as this continues.

 

MISCELLANEOUS (7 out of 10)-

There was some confusion at the beginning on how the ordering was going to happen, but once we placed the order, my putter came in quickly. I really like the quality of the headcover, it is a really soft leather, but more importantly it stays on. With other putter covers the magnet or Velcro would not hold and I would lose it. I haven’t had that issue at all. Another thing is the Gravity grip, I really like the idea behind it, but find it too big. I would wonder if they could make a similar shape but a little more narrow. The ER5v really caught the eye of the Pro at my course, and would always come by and roll some putts with it, and my playing partners always hated to see it in the bag, so that’s how I know it is good.

 

PLAY IT OR TRADE IT (20 out of 20)-

This has been in my bag since I received it, and it is staying there. I may dabble with trying a different putter grip, but it is staying in the bag. Being confident on putts inside 10 feet that I feel will go in the hole, and not worrying about 3 putting as much is huge for my game. I think anyone who miss hit putts should really look into this putter.

CONCLUSION-

I am really thankful for the opportunity of testing the Evnroll ER5v, I put a lot of hours on the practice green to get the data for this test. I tested it alongside my Odyssey 2 Ball Ten S with triple track, and saw improvements from 5 10 and 20 feet. On the course I was 3 putts better a round on average, and one round with no 3 putts. I could see a difference in my lag putting with the Evnroll ER5v. I really like the looks, and this may well be my favorite putter, so I can easily overlook the sound of the putter. I will continue to put the groove technology to the test, and keep practicing these distances so see how the numbers hold up over time. If anyone wants a forgiving putter, or struggles with 3 putting, I really believe they should give the Evnroll a try!

FINAL SCORE: 90/100  

 

Hi Everyone.  First of all, a huge thank you to Evnroll and MyGolfSpy for the testing opportunity.  This forum is by far my favorite on line.

A little background:  I'm 64 years old and started playing golf in my mid 30's.  Until the last 2 or 3 years, my handicap stayed in the 12 to 14 range.  It is now around 9 and dropping.  In case you're wondering, retirement helps your scores I play 2 or 3 times a week, weather allowing.  I have never been a big hitter and getting older hasn't helped, but the modern golf ball and long shafted, oversize drivers have helped me maintain most of the distance I had in my 30's.  My bag currently consists of a Ping G425 driver, Taylormade HL 3 wood, Callaway Heavenwood, Cobra 8 wood and PXG original generation 0211 irons.  My current flat stick is a Ping Sigma2 Anser (more on that later). I have about 8 sand wedges and lob wedges I rotate for no good reason, but chipping and pitching have historically been a strength of my game. From the beginning, my putting has been a weakness of my game.  Take a peek at my avatar.  When I first started playing, I used a Wilson 8800 putter thanks to my admiration of Ben Crenshaw's stroke.  Sadly, my putting stroke wasn't nearly good enough for that Wilson putter.  I think it had the sweet spot the size of a gnat's backside.  I also had a lot of arc in my stroke that led to inconsistency. 

After a few years of trying a lot of putters, I picked up a semi-mallet Odyssey putter that worked much better for me.  It also had a larger grip, which I think lessened the arc in my swing.  I still wasn't what I would call a good putter.  After a few years, I went to a Ping Craze E, which was a huge mallet.  With an oversize grip, it worked pretty well but, naturally, it went sour after a while.  Then came a Taylormade Spider and then a Happy mallet. 

About a year and a half ago, I borrowed an old Ping Pengyo putter from a buddy.  He is very tall and the putter was 36 inches with a huge grip.  Suddenly, I became a good putter!  My stroke smoothed out and my speed control improved dramatically.  After 6 months of putter bliss, the buddy moved out of state and took the putter with him.  Aarrrgh!  No amount of begging and no amount of money would convince him to let me keep the putter. 

Enter the Ping Sigma 2.  I ordered it at 36" with an oversize grip.  It works pretty well, but not as well as the old Pengya.  I am hoping that the Evnroll will have some of the mojo of that old Ping.

A couple of shots of the putter.  As you can see, it's a variation on the classic Ping/Scotty Cameron blade shape.  Everything about the putter exudes quality.  The finish is top notch and the head cover is a magnetic model that won't fall off.

I went to the putting green yesterday to give it a whirl.  The weight is lighter than my Ping, despite being over length.  On center strikes, it has a nice soft feel and sound.  When hit on the heel or toe, it sounds and feels "clang-y".  I did notice that speed didn't suffer much on off center strikes.

 

 

At the putting green I was pushing a lot of putts.  I was hoping I would be able to correct that for this morning's round.  Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.  I had to really concentrate on releasing the putter through impact or the ball went right.  At the moment, I don't know if the problem is alignment or something else.  I use an alignment mark on my ball and set the putter perpendicular to that, but it is certainly possible my stance was closed and I didn't realize it.  I'll go back to the putting green Monday and see if I can work out the problem.  Even though I struggled with the line this morning, the speed control was good and I took 28 official putts, plus 3 from the fringe.

I'll post more results and photos after the putting session Monday.

MONDAY'S RESULTS:

After a long session at the putting green, I have to say this putter is the bee's knees, the cat's meow, the real stuff.  Obviously, the earlier problem pushing putts was user error.  Really, was there ever any doubt?  I started with some short, straight putts and then moved to longer putts and breaking putts.  Below is a pic of the result of 3 putts from 12 feet:

 

 

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I stupidly took one of the balls out of the cup before thinking to take the pic.  2 out of 3 from 12 feet and almost perfect speed on the miss.

Here's a pic of 3 putts from 60 feet:

The worst putt here was 4 feet away and that was the one that got past the hole where the green slopes down to the edge. 

We are having a dangerous heat wave here but I plan to get in a round in the next few days using my Shot Scope V3 to track my putting stats. 

I have mentioned the grip on this putter only in passing.  It is a Gravity grip.  I don't think you would say it is a counter balanced grip but it is a similar idea.  There is a metal bar inside the grip on the underside that runs the length of the grip.  Evnroll claims that it makes it harder for the player to rotate the face away from square.  At the putting green, I was starting almost everything on the line I had picked, so maybe there is something to it.

THE LATEST 18:

I played this morning at a course I play maybe 8 times a year.  The putter was working extremely well.  The distance control was just about perfect on every putt.  I started the putts on the lines I picked on every putt but one and that one was a 20 footer that missed the hole by 4 inches on the left after a pull.  I had 29 putts, but that doesn't tell the whole story.  I didn't hit anything close all day and had 7 one putts and no 3 putts.  If this keeps up I'll be buried with this putter. 

Below is a quick video of one of the most important performance aspects of a putter:

And I would like to point out that was off a down slope.  Very handy for swiping up the ball after you've shot yourself out of the hole!

 

Now for the ratings:

Looks:  5 Stars  Obviously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I've decided to score this category based on the quality of construction and finish.  Both are top notch.  The putter has a quality look and the finish is impeccable. 

Sound & Feel:  5 Stars  The putter really shines in this category.  The ball feels and sounds just a tiny bit soft coming off the face, but, at the same time, very solid.  If you put a terrible stroke on the ball, then you will get a little bit of a clanky feel and sound, but you have to miss the sweet spot by a lot for that to happen.

Basic Characteristics:  5 Stars  Evnroll gives you a choice of hosel styles with each head, allowing you to pick one that fits your eye and stroke.  I ordered one of the choices to fit well with a slight arc and it worked beautifully for me.  They have options for those with a straight back through stroke and those with a lot of arc in the stroke.  I think this is a huge plus.  It helped me start most putts on the line I had chosen. 

On-course Performance:  5 Stars  Using this putter, my ability to hit my line and my speed control have improved dramatically.  Evnroll makes a big deal of their "Sweet Face Technology."  Well, they should.  It flat out works.

Miscellaneous:  4 Stars  I'm dinging them one star here because the packaging wasn't the best I've seen.  There was no padding to protect the putter from shipping company gorillas.

Play it or Trade it:  5 Stars  This putter is firmly ensconced in my bag.  At this point, any other club in my bag is replaceable.  Not the Evnroll.

 

 

Greetings Spies.  My name is Bill and I reside in southwest Montana. I'm ecstatic and honored to have been selected among the thousands of who applied to test the latest Evnroll series putters.  A HUGE THANK YOU to the folks at Evnroll and MyGolfSpy for providing this the numerous other product tests!!  I find these product reviews to be very informative and meaningful.  Marketing claims are "put to the test" by fellow amateur players with no strings attached.  I have used these reviews as part of my recent equipment changes and will do my best to provide you all with a meaningful review of the Evnroll ER5v putter.

A little about me.  I was introduced to the game by my Dad at 5 years old growing up in Ft. Lauderdale, FL and played on the JGA for a few years before the family relocated to Sacramento, CA. I have always played the game but, like so many, went through periods where I played quite a bit and then not as often.  For a brief time, I had a 9 handicap which is my personal best. After 30 years working in aerospace, I retired early and my wife and I moved away from soggy and very busy Puget Sound to the rural life in MT.  We live here until the snow fly's (I use porch snow shoveling events as my indicator ), and then we head south to AZ for winter.  This affords me lots more golf and fly fishing time when I'm not working around the mini ranch with River, our yellow lab.

I really love the game and work at getting better at it.  That said, having gone through a period in my early 20's where I went through a swing change, got completely frustrated, and was no longer enjoying just playing, I now try not to take things too seriously.  I'm currently at a 12 handicap and while I really want to once again break 10 simply refuse to allow the journey to become a millstone.  

Overall, my putting has been a pretty average part of my game - neither a major impediment or advantage.  I have been wielding a PING B61 since 1987 when I used the $100 gift certificate from a company tournament to purchase it from the pro shop.  That "fitting" was all of about 15 minutes of me picking through and rolling stuff of the rack and, though I occasionally tested other putters over the years, none ever proved to be worth the investment.  For those who have come to know me through the forum, I tend to be a bit data driven, fuss the details, and labor over equipment decisions .

As part of my bag fitting this past winter at TrueSpec Scottsdale, I had a "proper" putter fitting.  On the short list of performers was the Evnroll ER5.  I held off on procuring one as I was also fitted for and purchased a set of Srixon ZX5's with composite shafts.  So imagine my excitement when I saw the "Evnroll Putter Testers Wanted" announcement .... and then the "Testers Selected" announcement.

First Impressions

To be quite honest, I've always had a rather not so enamored reaction to the large MOI, mallet and semi mallet design putters.  Like the move from my McGregor persimmon driver to my first Great Big Bertha to my current G410, the traditionalist in me has me feeling dubious and the suspicious part of me thinking I'm just falling for slick, without substance, marketing.  But, I watch a lot of tour golf and it's quite clear that these newer design/technology flat sticks are heavily favored.

The ER5v is a mallet design but of a smaller overall size envelope.  It is subtle as compared to a number of the more wild looking design profiles on the market.  To my eye, that is a positive.  I chose their "midsize pistol grip" as it is similar to the stock PING grip I've been using for so long.  It looks and feels very nice and, although a bit larger, should be an easy adjustment.

The quality of machining is top shelf and I really like the way it looks at set-up position.  The two alignment dots on the ridge and alignment line are also similar to my B61 and that too should help make the change pretty seamless.

As for the head cover, WOW, a thing of beauty and something brand new for me.  I have never had a head cover for a putter.  These are very well made, fit like a glove, and the magnetic latch is solid. I requested a black cover simply because I was afraid of a white one getting soiled. But now having it in hand, I'm happy they sent the white one.

I spent about 2 hours this morning on the practice green just getting the feel of the putter before delving into comparative testing. My initial impression is that it feels quite different than my PING, slightly heavier, and definitely more solid on contact.  The B61 is 351g and the ER5V 380g.  One would not think 29g difference would be that perceptible but is most definitely is.  

Some of you may know that I just recently changed to a left hand low grip and it has been proving very beneficial - particularly on putts 5 feet and closer.  I felt like I was not losing any gains from those distances.  Lags from 30 feet took a little more time to dial in but, by the end of the session, felt comparable to my PING.  

 

So now onto the "meat and potatoes" that is the biggest aspect of Evnroll putters... "Sweet Face Technology". Guerin Rife's patented, novel design of variable spaced face grooves aimed at zero dispersion. The key being that the entire putter face is the "sweet spot" as opposed to the competition having a small, centered sweet spot. Like the other testers, I'm very intrigued by the design and claims, and want to put this to the test.

I'm planning to use the current MGS Putter Testing protocol as part of my review https://mygolfspy.com/how-we-test-putters/, but with some slight modifications.  I'll share the details of that in upcoming posts.  If you have any ideas about testing or questions about the putter, please let me know.

This is going to be a fun test and I sure hope many of you will follow along as the four of us put these latest Evnroll putters to the test. 

 

 

 

Evnroll ER5v / Stage Two Review / by FIXYURDIVOT

This has been a really fun review to do and I once again want to say Thank You to the folks at Evnroll and My Golf Spy for the opportunity!  Hopefully I have sufficiently done my part in providing a thorough review and in adding meaningful content to the ever growing library of product tests/reviews.  I can say first hand that these reviews have become my "go to" source when wanting to get the scoop on new and old gear.  Having candid feedback and scoring from peers is way more valuable to me than most all other sources.  So here goes... lets add yet another one to the MGS vault .

Putters are truly, as so many state, such a personal and unique club within our bags.  They come in a seemingly endless mix of designs - from the completely esoteric to the mundane. They are the single most used arrow in the quiver and responsible for roughly 35% of most average amateur scores.  

Personally, it is a club I payed very little attention too over my 55 years of play and, although I occasionally grabbed one in a pro shop to test out, never felt any would offer an advantage to my 30+ years in the bag PING B61.  Hey, I'm used to it, and if I want to get better at putting, it will be 90% technique and 10% putter... or so I thought.

As it happened, I recently committed to a Left Hand Low grip while playing with some fellow spies at this years PNW Spy Meet-up.  I had briefly tried using this a couple years earlier but it felt weird and I gave up on it. This time I was able to get past the awkward stage and get to where it feels "normal", and I'm seeing some improvement.  Most importantly being my starting line and secondary make percentage on short putts.  So, the timing of this test opportunity, combined with the fact that the ER5v ended up the putter of choice from my True Spec fitting was simply awesome!

If you've been following my Stage One and the test thread discussions, you'll know that I had two key tests I wanted to complete as part of the performance aspect of the ER5v putter:

• Strokes Gained Test
• Validate "Sweet Face/Zero Dispersion" Claim

The Strokes Gained Test was a slightly modified version of MGS's Putter Testing Method. Where they test SG between various testers, I simply compared my B61 to the ER5v.  I also revised how putts were made from the 5, 10, and 20 foot distances.  Instead of repeating a series of putts from one location, I arranged a wagon-wheel spoke pattern around the hole.

The test consisted of (5) putts around hole, from all three distances, (5) times - for a total of 75 putts.  Each putt not holed was putted out and total strokes counted for each ball rolled.  This data was entered into a spreadsheet and, using the provided calculations, yielded the following results.

The Validate "Sweet Face/Zero Dispersion" claim consisted of trying to replicate robot putter test results with heel, center, and toe strikes.  The basis of Evnroll's "zero dispersion" is that the milled groove pattern is of such design that, regardless of whether you contact the putter face, balls struck in the same manner (face path and force) will rollout to the same distance.  Hey, that is some heady stuff right there - a very bold claim. I don't know about you, but a putter that keeps my off center hits from diverging away from the target is definitely of interest.

To test this, I putted balls from a single spot at a distance of 20 feet. My gut told me the effect (if there indeed was one) would be easier to see on long putts. I recorded how putts ended up; short, long, left and right of the hole. I added line marks on the top rail for the heel and toe hits.  These were the results of that testing.

Testing Summary

Clearly the Strokes Gained test indicates improved performance over the B61.  In particular is the gain on the 5 foot putts.  A potential of nearly 1.7 stroke per round would be very welcomed.  With all other aspects of my game kept in current form, this alone might finally get me to my 10 handicap goal!  To really validate this, one or two more repetitions of the 75 putt test should be done... but I like what I see thus far.  If you really want to compare some putters against your "Billy Baroo", I highly recommend using this SG analysis.

As for the "Sweet Face/No Dispersion test, it was much less revealing.  I think it is simply too difficult to repeatedly control face path and impact force to the degree necessary to validate rollout distance and dispersion.  I used the B61 as a comparison point since it has no grooves at all. I tested both in the house on short/dense pile carpet and on the practice green.  Overall, I could make a weak case for the ER5v offering better dispersion and more consistent rollout. I will say that toe hits on the ER5v did seem to move back from right to left - the reasons for this are discussed in an independent lab, robot putt test using the ER1.  Regrettably, I'm going to have to rely on this labs and Guerin Rife's robot putting tests for this claim... but I do believe there is benefit.

Scoring

Looks (8/10)

The ER5v is, IMO, an eye grabber.  It strikes a very good balance of bling and subtlety. The mallet style head has the tell-tale wings which are inherent of high MOI putters but it has a streamline look and far from the Marvel comics, exotic winged designs some have within its design group. The quality of machining is top shelf and the distinctive red Evnroll logo on the face looks perfect.  The black color/red end cap midsize pistol grip I chose is of very good quality and has a slightly soft feel.  Having tried several of the SuperStroke type grips, I find this a nice compromise to those and the stock PING pistol grip - definitely larger but no overly so. 

The headcover is very nice looking, well made, and fits perfect.  It's hidden magnet closure makes opening and closing easy.  Not ever having had a putter headcover, I feel like "I've arrived" .

My only reduction in score comes from the back portion alignment mark.  First that the paint fill is a wee bit inconsistent, and second, that it is black color.  The top rail has no line but rather two unfilled/painted dots.  I think these would be much more helpful if filled with white paint and perhaps allowing the customer to choose the alignment mark paint fill color (black, white or ??).  To be fair, Evnroll's on-line order form does allow upcharge addition of a top rail align mark, no marks top or back, and color fill options. But they should, IMO, offer choice of fill or no fill and color, on the stock dots and hatch section line, as the no upcharge options.

Sound & Feel (10/10)

I would describe the sound of the ER5v as a moderate tick - definitely not ringy or loud.  Unfortunately I have very little experience with other putters to compare it too and to be fair, club sound is not an overly important factor to me.  I don't notice any difference when hitting across various places on the face - center strikes, toe and heel strikes sound the same.  My apologies but this is one characteristic I'm not able to offer much help with. Here is a recording of what it sounds like.

As for feel, that is much more important to me and I would describe this putter as solid and authoritative. The 380g head weight is quite a change from the B61 (351g) but I do like that added heft. Strikes feel very solid and center strikes feel different than extreme toe and heel strikes.  This is a nice attribute, especially when practicing as you get (or at least I do) a different feel in my hands.

Basic Characteristics (17/20)

I have been able to play 5 rounds and spend somewhere on the order of 6 hours on practice greens using/testing the putter.  I am finding it a bit more accurate than my current gamer and the aforementioned SG analysis confirms this. Distance control is good and it seemed I was able to very quickly adjust to it.  I feel much more confident rolling short range putts with the ER5v.  Perhaps it's the overall size envelope that evokes sense of confidence - ala the 460cc driver? The longer backend and alignment stripe seems to fit my sightline well and it's similar to my current putter.

This being a high MOI design putter, it is intended to help with face path stability and reduced twisting on off center strikes.  My True Spec fitting found this mallet and a semi-mallet style as my best fit and, based on the limited time I've used the ER5v, I feel it performs as intended.  

I find the putter to be very playable from all green slope conditions.  I recall my True Spec fitter saying my B61's loft was 5 degrees and this putter is 2 degrees (which he said is the new normal) and that I might find rolls through taller grass requiring a bit more force. A recent round had "greenskeeper woke up on the wrong side of the bed pin placements" and I'm not sure there was a flat lie within 10' of the hole on most greens but I putted just fine. As for apron and fringe rolls, the putter is adept at those as well.  I holed one from the apron and banged another off the pin from the fringe. 

On-Course Performance (26/30)

Pretty much straight away, I found a good groove with the ER5v. I thought it would take longer to adjust to such a big shift in size envelope and weight, but it did not.  Now I will say a good portion of my putting confidence has come from the LHL grip change, but rolling this putter seems to have added even more confidence.  Total putts in the 5 rounds I've played the putter have been 34, 32, 30, 34, 31.  This is pretty consistent with my numbers playing my gamer but one key difference is that I'm getting closer to and past the hole a bit more often.  This is resulting in fewer knee-knockers which the SG numbers show is my largest gain.  

Miscellaneous (10/10)

For many this may be of little importance but I love putter designs that allow you to scoop up the ball. The B61 is among the best I've ever seen/tried doing this and, having become so used to using this for over 3 decades, it's a feature I want.  At True Spec, I attempted this several times and had balls rolling every which way across the studio.  The rear "hatched out" potion of the putter certainly looks capable of this feat but I walked away from that fitting not thinking it was likely.

Much to my surprise however is that, with a little practice, the ER5v does do a pretty good job of scooping up balls.  Still not as efficient as the PING but I'm getting the hang of it and, with a little practice, should have it mastered.

One thing we have not talked about, that is a particularly cool feature of the "v" models, is the ability to swap out shafts. While the vast majority of us probably won't do so, this affords a nice modular aspect to the design.  With putter fittings becoming more common, it could prove beneficial whereby the head is optimal but a different shaft might be needed.  Much like drivers and woods, we are finding the ability to swap shafts very useful... kudos to Evnroll for adding this capability to their putters!

Play It or Trade It? (20/20)

What, not already obvious?   Umm, yea, this putter is definitely staying in the bag. Simply based on the strokes gained test alone, my gut tells me it's conservatively worth a stroke/round.  For whatever reason, I feel more confident with it - particularly at close range where I tend to give away too many strokes.  Any club change takes a little time to adjust to its nuisances and I'm quite certain my performance with this putter will only improve with time.  

Conclusion

The ER5v and I just flat out "hit it off". Definitely a drastic change in design and weight from my gamer but it feels very natural in my hands - making the LHL feel more normal if that makes any sense. These putters are of top shelf quality and packed with GI technology.  While I couldn't definitively validate the "Sweet Face/No Dispersion" claims, we have seen independent tests that show it's definitely not all marketing hype.  One can argue "low vs. no dispersion" is more appropriate but regardless it does what it is designed to do - help us putt better.

Bottom line is that, if you struggle with dispersion from off center strikes and resultant inconsistent rollout distances, Guerin Rife's novel groove design will help with that.

I would not hesitate to recommend anyone looking to make a putter change/upgrade to include Evnroll among your list of candidates!

Thank You again to Evnroll and MGS for this amazing opportunity!

Final Score (91/100)

2 hours ago, Lacassem said:

I mean that video is pretty incredible.

Yeah, its a great claim and the few videos I’ve seen showed the same results.  I guess all the testers could do is try it replicate it, but much like the MGS Ball Test, I think that one is best handled by a robot.  So other than re-creating the test to prove the didn’t do any video trickery I don’t see a real test to do.  As an aside, I do feel that my putts have ended up close to the hole and more on track vs my old putter.  Hopefully the testers will see the same and better with the Fuji shafts too! 

4 hours ago, Thin2win said:

Hey guys, now that this shows up in the recent content filter, I'm catching up. I used an ER2 for a couple years, but switched to a SpiderX this year. Mostly because I as much as I believe in the sweetface tech, I hit the ball on my target line with the spiderx more often. 

so for those of you testing the er5 and the er11, those are clubs I am really interested in. Combining the best of both worlds for me. Have any of you done a strike check using foot spray to see how often you are getting any advantage out of the sweetface tech or if you are hitting the center in the first place? 

Part of my test plan will be rolling 20' putts with strikes at heel, center, and toe positions... or at least as close to those face locations as my near robot putting prowess can produce. I plan to add a "heel" and "toe" align mark on the top rail. I can spray some powder and check that when I run that test.  I've never used spray powder on a putter face before... hopefully it shows up?

As we're a little bit house bound today (our choice) from all the fire smoke, I did a little indoor putting.  The smoke has been around, on and off, for a couple of weeks but not too bad... until last evening. It really started to smell and the higher humidity and still air has allowed it to settle in the valley...yuck. We're close to the arrow.

Because our carpet is a very low pile and actually rolls pretty darn true, I decided to run some tests.  A rubber lid opener/gripper serves as the hole.

I applied some alignment marks for the heel and toe strikes and we're using a brand new sleeve of Kirkland's .

I'm trying to assess both the dispersion and length trends between the B61 and the ER5v.  I'm rolling 3 balls at a time, first from the center, then heel, then toe and repeating this to establish some trends. The spray powder shows up very well on the B61 face but not so much on the ER5v.  Each of the photos had one set of (3) strikes from the intended face position. 

To be honest, I'm not seeing any specific trends between these putters other than, in aggregate, I'm short right more than any other miss. Toe hits tend to be shorter on both putters and I could make a weak case that ER5v heel and toe hits stay on line better than the B61.  I'm able to fairly consistently strike the intended face position but putting force and face path is probably just too varied to ascertain whatever benefit the "Sweet Face" technology affords. 

Once the smoke clears out, I plan to repeat this at a practice green and see if that makes a difference.  But at least I've got the align marks done and feel I can accurately hit test area on the face.  I want so much to really test the anecdotal claims that off center strikes tend to stay straighter and roll out to the same distance as center strikes... but a putting robot is probably the only way to test this .   

I did a quick search to see if any independent labs have attempted this (repeat the Guerin Rife test) and have not found any.  If anyone knows of any such test, please share with us .

26 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

As we're a little bit house bound today (our choice) from all the fire smoke, I did a little indoor putting.  The smoke has been around, on and off, for a couple of weeks but not too bad... until last evening. It really started to smell and the higher humidity and still air has allowed it to settle in the valley...yuck. We're close to the arrow.

Because our carpet is a very low pile and actually rolls pretty darn true, I decided to run some tests.  A rubber lid opener/gripper serves as the hole.

I applied some alignment marks for the heel and toe strikes and we're using a brand new sleeve of Kirkland's .

I'm trying to assess both the dispersion and length trends between the B61 and the ER5v.  I'm rolling 3 balls at a time, first from the center, then heel, then toe and repeating this to establish some trends. The spray powder shows up very well on the B61 face but not so much on the ER5v.  Each of the photos had one set of (3) strikes from the intended face position. 

To be honest, I'm not seeing any specific trends between these putters other than, in aggregate, I'm short right more than any other miss. Toe hits tend to be shorter on both putters and I could make a weak case that ER5v heel and toe hits stay on line better than the B61.  I'm able to fairly consistently strike the intended face position but putting force and face path is probably just too varied to ascertain whatever benefit the "Sweet Face" technology affords. 

Once the smoke clears out, I plan to repeat this at a practice green and see if that makes a difference.  But at least I've got the align marks done and feel I can accurately hit test area on the face.  I want so much to really test the anecdotal claims that off center strikes tend to stay straighter and roll out to the same distance as center strikes... but a putting robot is probably the only way to test this .   

I did a quick search to see if any independent labs have attempted this (repeat the Guerin Rife test) and have not found any.  If anyone knows of any such test, please share with us .

Because the low force with a putt would the foot spray alter the performance of grooves? 

2 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

Because the low force with a putt would the foot spray alter the performance of grooves? 

If your asking whether the film of powder affects the putt, I very much doubt it... maybe somewhere on the 5th decimal place .

Here is one independent lab robot test and it delves into a quantitative level of detail - as opposed to the Guerin Rife demo. Interesting that they found toe strikes to be "the hottest" portion of the face. I saw the opposite, but again, my inability to control both face path and impact force is most likely the reason.  It may also be the difference between the ER1 and ER5 design (low vs. high MOI).  They also found that the true COG is not on the white centerline but rather just towards the heel.  That's awesome since my spray powder contact tests show that I tend to hit just heel side of the alignment strip .

 

@fixyurdivot got me thinking about putts across the face and the "Sweet Face" technology used by Evnroll. Thunderstorms rolling through my area led me to head to the basement. I didn't have any foot powder spray but the ER11v does have alignment lines on the putter that line up rather well with ends of the grooves in the putter's face. They are midpoint in the inner and outer third of the grooves in the face. So I used that as means of lining up putts. I was generally speaking able to consistently get puts on target in all areas of the face. I would like to try this on putts longer than what I can do with my PuttOUT mat. I will try a strokes gained test from 3 areas on the face. My current putter is an Evnroll ER7 so my ability to test against another putter isn't available to me.

 

 

 

 

 

I played 18 at Cottonwood Hills in Bozeman on Thursday and shot a hard fought 91 . While the pin locations, according to the two members I played with, were in some of the most challenging positions they'd seen in some time, it was my worst putting performance in awhile 35 putts which include three 3 putts .  Lag performance was particularly bad but the pins on top of knolls definitely contributed... misses amplified. I'm chalking it up to simply being an off day.  

One thing I can share about the ER5v is its ability to scoop balls.  Not quite as proficient as the B61 design (a ball scooping machine), but with a little practice, it works.  It's a feature/capability I've grown accustom to using for 30 years now and would miss.

 

To say I’m absolutely in love with my #CustomER ER1v would be a huge understatement. Two rounds in the books and it has taken my putting to a level I’ve never seen before 

 

My course sanded the greens, so I’m still waiting for it to somewhat smooth out. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. 

I got another of my SG test set in, with both the ER5v and my B61, before playing 18 holes today at Beaverhead GC in Dillon.  I arrived early and no one was on the practice green, so I was able to really spread out and not get any distractions.  I left the B61 in the truck for course play.  I shot 41/43 with 31 putts.  In contrast to last weeks debacle at Cottonwood Hills, both play and putting felt good. 

I'm trying something new on my long putts - positioning the putter face path to target, picking a spot just in front of that line as a target, and concentrate on catching the ball on the center alignment mark (no further looks to target).  I think that is helping regardless of which putter I'm using.  I'm growing more accustom to the heavier ER5v and like its feel off the face.  

I have all my SG tests done now and need only crunch the numbers to include in the final review... but early guess is positive.  I should be able to get a couple more rounds of play in as well to get good comparative course vs. practice green results... if your like me, I'm lights out on practice greens .

 

Hole #2 Par 5.  NOAA had "monsoonal like rain" in the forecast starting around 1300.  This was taken at 1100... sure dosen't look too threatening but weather in Montana happens fast .  

***Please excuse the dog hair, my lab loves laying on my mat*** 

My course putting green is still closed, so I’m working on my stroke at home. This is probably my second favorite training aide, only behind Superspeed.  

I’ve been laying low this week. I had injured my back at work many years ago changing an X-Ray tube on an angiography system. Every now and again it flares up. That happened Saturday cleaning my pool. Hope to get on the practice green tomorrow and back to full swings next week.

Rough round today as far as off the greens go, but no 3 putts today. I was a lag putting machine today, and inside 4 feet was automatic! Even made 2 from 10’+, safe to say this is going to stay in my bag. 

great job testers really enjoyed all the reviews .. def going to look into the evnroll putters next time I am looking to switch out. 

Awesome reviews all! Love the details and pics, and it's fantastic to see gear that really works across the board for everyone. Thanks for all of your work in putting these thorough posts together.

Nice job testers!  Looks like a clean sweep for you all keeping it in the bag.  I can't say I blame any of you.  I love my ER2B and you all were seeing some great on-course results!  

I like how everyone is keeping their Evnroll in their bag!

I loved my Evnroll ER3 as well, for a few years, right up until I went on a date with “Adele”.

Great feedback from the testers and a strong testament to the full line from Evnroll!

Thanks for the detailed reviews. I’m happy to learn that I’m not the only one who felt these to be clicks or tinny off the face. I was disappointed by that feel and decided to get something else when I tested them. I’m happy they are performing though!

Very solid reviews by all.  A lot of the reviews mirror my own experience when I picked up a used ER7.  I've had it in the bag for about a year and really love it.  Still thinking about trying a V, but at my last fitting the SAM lab showed I had good consistency with mine and that it fit my slight arc stroke well enough so I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but would be interested in trying out the ER11v head.

So I switched grips, and I went back to the Superstroke Pistol GT 1.0. I am already missing the Gravity grip. I had a bad putting day this weekend, more down to misreading greens, and a ton of lip outs. I setup my normal 5 tees at 5 and 10 feet, and I was not any where near as good. I will get it some time and see if it continues, but if not next time I go back to Houston, I will switch back to the gravity grip. 

1 minute ago, cjeffs12 said:

So I switched grips, and I went back to the Superstroke Pistol GT 1.0. I am already missing the Gravity grip. I had a bad putting day this weekend, more down to misreading greens, and a ton of lip outs. I setup my normal 5 tees at 5 and 10 feet, and I was not any where near as good. I will get it some time and see if it continues, but if not next time I go back to Houston, I will switch back to the gravity grip. 

How much effect did the grip-switch have on swing weight? That could be a big factor in performance going forward.

Just now, PMookie said:

How much effect did the grip-switch have on swing weight? That could be a big factor in performance going forward.

I'm not sure, I did not check. I do not feel a massive difference, but I am horrible at feeling those things.  I think I got very used to the feeling of my palm to target, and I may need to check my hand placement. I may see if my local store can check swing weight.  

28 minutes ago, cjeffs12 said:

I'm not sure, I did not check. I do not feel a massive difference, but I am horrible at feeling those things.  I think I got very used to the feeling of my palm to target, and I may need to check my hand placement. I may see if my local store can check swing weight.  

I’d have to look it up, but I think there’s internal weighting in the Gravity Grip that wouldn’t be in the Slim unless you bought the Slim with the counter-weighted top. That Evnroll grip is a big part of the putter’s overall design/feel/performance so changing that alone could be an issue if things weren’t evened-out. Just a thought….

I absolutely LOVE this site

That ER5v...

I would love to try it

Great opportunity here!

Sign this gear head up!   

The ER5v looks fantastic, I would love to give this putter a great try out !

Man what a cool test. I was part of the original Evnroll test years ago and it was still one of my favorites. 

I would very much like to try it.

ah man, for RH only....

I'd love to be a tester!

love to try one out

I'd love to test these. 

I would love to test these and see how they roll  and perform.

own two, would love to see if the V series is an improvement. 

Dang. Two tests in a row that are tempting for the golden ticket, but too similar to my gamers to pull the trigger. Plus I just went out and bought a second EVNRoll two weeks ago "just to try it out"  turns out I should've waited and tested the new line.

Definitely a putter brand that has gained some serious traction.

Would love to try this out!! Havn't been able to try one of these yet. 

Yes please! ER5v short slant looks amazing!!

 

Would love to cut some necks of my weekend crew with this putter!  I'm the current master butcher and one of these putters will have the boys nervous- skins ($$$$$)!! 

This is the holy grail of putter brands I have wanted to try for years, thx to reviews on this site.  Thx for opportunity!!!

I would definitely like to test this! RH player here.

I’ve been wanting to give one of these try for a while now this is a perfect opportunity

In the market for a new putter. I bought existing one in 1986. I've tried others since, but nothing had the same feel. I've been seriously considering the Evnroll 2. 

Update  November 19: I bought an Evnroll 5

Count me in... Would love to try out these putters.

Would love to review this putter. It would help with my putter addiction.